#omnislash

[ryotaiku]

I tried to record my Omnislash but I forgot I had Counter equipped

[batwing27]

[mazu-art]

[fearowkenya]

lmao just finished OG. the party got hit with sephiroth's six hour long planet explosion attack and tifa had counter+deathblow equipped so she took the damage , went "Yeah???????" , and punched him and he DIED. that was the finishing move. tifa kills sephiroth AS THE LORD INTENDED

[dark-elf-writes]

If u get to part three of the playthrough that’s practically happening anyway. The races go on for like two hours straight,,,which is even funnier to me bc one of the last scenes before that was like “oh no! The world is ending from like three different sides right now! We have to hurry up and do something!”

Gotta breed the perfect chicken ostrich to fight the planet mech… and so Cloud can stab things a bunch

[greetings-inferiors]

So I just finished final fantasy 7’s disc 1

And

I’m

Distraught

[wxndswept]

If I had a nickel for every Final Fantasy 7 reference in a Hoyo game, I'd have 2 nickels. I should probably have more, but it's neat that I have two of them.

[ohnoitstbskyen]

Could you talk more about sephiroth and clouds dynamic/relationship? Especially about sephiroths feelings towards cloud since I personally haven’t seen many people talk about that aspect.

Well, it sort of depends which version of the Final Fantasy VII story you're talking about, because certainly in the original game, Sephiroth actually doesn't care very much about Cloud at all.

During the events in Nibelheim, Sephiroth has a relationship with Zack as a friendly coworker (arguably an actual friend), but Cloud is just some Shinra goon nobody whose name and face Sephiroth doesn't even know. It's not until Cloud confronts him in the Mako reactor and successfully kills him that Sephiroth even sees his face for the first time. Sephiroth doesn't even know Cloud's name in the last few moments of his life, he just sees this enraged kid suddenly find the strength to overpower him and throw him into the reactor core out of nowhere.

After Cloud kills him, well... I would make the argument that Sephiroth never actually comes back. He dies in the throes of a psychotic break where the Jenova cells inside of him are using his emotional anguish to manipulate him towards her own ends, promising him all the love and family and fulfilment and sense of identity that Shinra violently abused out of him. And when he dies, whatever parts of Sephiroth's mind that were left are fully replaced with Jenova's single-minded superobjective to consume the planet and move on to parasitize again.

And so the version of Sephiroth that haunts Cloud for most of the narrative isn't actually Sephiroth the man. Almost every part of that person is long gone. Just like how Jenova used the psychological hook of Sephiroth's mother to control him, "Sephiroth" is mostly the Jenova cells using the hook of Sephiroth's influence over Cloud to try and control him.

And that's why Sephiroth seems so fixated on Cloud - not because Sephiroth the Person actually cares about him, but because the Jenova cells that are spread out across a thousand organisms are calling for Reunion, and they will use whatever psychological hook or crook that can manipulate their hosts to make it happen. The other Jenova victims presumably saw visions just as vivid and personal, urging them on towards the Northern Crater.

Sephiroth seems obsessed with Cloud because Cloud is obsessed with Sephiroth. Sephiroth is this avatar of his trauma, his self-hate, and his deep internal identity crisis, the representation of his every doubt and insecurity. Hence Sephiroth's gleeful constant accusation that Cloud is merely a puppet, Cloud has no personality, Cloud isn't real - these are Cloud's own fears being verbalized against him by the Jenova cells. And it's deeply ironic because the only puppet here is Sephiroth, being piloted by Jenova like an ant by cordyceps.

Hence the very final battle with Sephiroth which takes place not in the depths of the Northern Crater with the party confronting Safer Sephiroth, but in a black and undifferentiated void-space at the end of a psychedelic mind-trip, that Cloud undertakes alone to confront the ghost of Sephiroth in his mind and banish his influence forever. Like, that final moment really is the most This Is Only Happening In Cloud's Mind-ass final boss confrontation imaginable.

But that's the original Final Fantasy VII. The extended FF7 universe pivots hard off of the popularity of Sephiroth as an Iconic Villain and goes about building out him as the central antagonist of the entire universe, and centering him almost obsessively in the extended narrative of Final Fantasy VII.

Advent Children basically retcons the end of Final Fantasy VII, where it turns out oops Cloud didn't actually fully reject Sephiroth's influence over him, here's some Geostigma to represent the haunting malice of this singular villain and here's a 1-to-1 recreation of the final scene from FF7 where Cloud destroys Sephiroth with Omnislash extended out to a gratuitous anime fight scene that ends with an even more awesome ultra-final ultimate Super Omnislash... but then even THAT isn't enough as Sephiroth promises ominously to "never become a mere memory" and he's going to haunt Cloud forever and ooooh maybe he'll be coming back for another seven sequels or something, because the franchise is never ever ever going to let Cloud move on, heal or get better, not so long as Sephiroth is this popular.

Same deal with Kingdom Hearts, which represents Cloud's character as basically revolving entirely around Sephiroth, and Sephiroth as almost romantically obsessed with Cloud, while games like Crisis Core get into the Star Wars Extended Universe business of attaching portentous mythological weight to originally inconsequential objects like the Buster Sword, and building out a grand conspiracy of gene manipulated One Winged Angel People all chasing the coat-tails of Sephiroth's popularity.

All of this comes together in the Final Fantasy VII Remake games, which try to reconcile the extended post-FF7 narrative with the original Final Fantasy VII story, adopting the idea of Sephiroth as the singular operatic puppet master villain of the story, rather than Shinra or Jenova who were the original game's thematic central villains as representations of parasitic and extractive capitalism.

So in these games, Sephiroth is obsessed with Cloud, and seems to see Cloud as his own best chance of salvation from his fate, and there's deep homoerotic tension between the two as Cloud struggles between wanting to kill Sephiroth, and wanting to be with or become him.

Oh, and to be clear, I do love the extended FF7 universe and all the post-original fluff that gets attached to it, I do love Sephiroth and Cloud as this pair of Doomed By The Narrative romantic lover-enemies fated to Toxic Yaoi each other to death forever, and I'm very fond of my good boy Zack, who deserves all the love the games have shown him. I cackled like an absolute hyena when I realized just how far the Final Fantasy VII Remake was going to go in rewriting the story.

It's just also hard not to see Square's treatment of Final Fantasy VII after it became The Iconic JRPG™ as anything other that corporate self-mythologizing and Star Wars style brand management, obsessively building more a marketable facade around the original game focused on its most popular surface-level features, at the cost of obscuring a lot of the subtler themes and ideas of the original game.

Sephiroth is not the main villain of Final Fantasy VII. Extractive capitalism is, and it is embodied by Shinra in the first half, and Jenova in the second half, and both of those antagonistic forces use Sephiroth as a puppet to do their bidding, and a veil to hide the primitive brutality of their consumption. But nobody would ever think that seeing how Sephiroth has been elevated as King Bad Guy of Villain Mountain in the aftermath.

I'm sorry I think this went kind of off the rails from the question you actually asked lol

[illumerux]

omg she's a citrus?! that's so cool dude! - @silly-cherries

Final fantasy??? There's only one left????

[cynicaldesire]

My husband is into Magic and has been keeping me abreast of MTGxFF spoilers, and because I have more knowledge of the series than he, I will go OH NEAT and explain some of the stuff in the art of the card. He will then usually explain the context and mechanics of the card and/or if its just a reprint/reskin of another card. Like using Chocobo stables from FF7 as a basic land, or Shinra Tower as the Command Tower for the pre-con Commander decks.

They have released spoilers for the FF 6, 7, 10, and 14 decks so far and some of them have really cool cards. There are so many, I don't want to bore everyone with the details of each, so I will link to my spoilers here: MTG Goldfish Spoilers.

Stitch Together - MTGxFF (FFVI) - This card's art tells the story of Shadow, one of the ensemble cast. It's hidden in dreams in the original game, hinted at with him winding up in Thamasa and Interceptor's reaction to Relm and such. I love that they did research into the games enough to have cards like this.

There's a lot of niche moments in the cards, but I think this is probably one of the most niche:

Palace Jailer - MTGxFF (FFVI) - This is a reference to a thief held in the dungeons in Figaro Palace, a wolf that you can encounter later in the game. He has a precious item in that encounter OR you can save Mog and get him as a party member.

Coin of Fate - MTGxFF (FFVI) - I pointed out to my husband that they made Edgar's armor so shiny so there's a reflection of the coin for the purpose of saying "What a weird thing to do. Are they saying that Edgar keeps his armor so polished because he's a king?" Instead I realized it was to show off the double-headed aspect of it.

General Leo Cristophe - MTGxFF (FFVI) - Amano art General Leo!

Champions from Beyond - MTGxFF (FFXIV) - I find this one cool because it has the Light and Full Party mechanics.

Cloud's Limit Break - MTGxFF (FFVII) - If this had 4 Limits on it, I would think it was cooler, but hey, the art is of his Omnislash and it's pretty cool to find a way to make it a mechanic.

Slayer's Stronghold - MTGxFF (FFVII) - AVALANCHE's secret basement in 7th Heaven.

Mossfire Valley - MTGxFF (FFVII) - Rocket Town.

Rootbound Crag - MTGxFF (FFVII) - Discovering the Midgar Zolom that Sephiroth impaled on a tree in front of the Mythril Mine.

Path of Ancestry - MTGxFF (FFVII) - Red XIII (Nanaki) on the cliff with his petrified father. This is a very emotional scene in the game, proving to the young warrior that his father was not, in fact, a wastrel.

Tome of Legends - MTGxFF (FFXIV) - This is Khloe's book from FFXIV. You pick it up from her starting at level 60 (?) and you can use those stickers to fill in and get a prize from her before the deadline. She wants to hear about the Warrior of Light's adventures, but only certain ones, like go do the Second Coil of Bahamut and tell her about your adventure there. Go do some dungeons or PvP and you can get a sticker and if you get 3 lines, you'll get the best prize!

Talisman of Conviction - MTGxFF (FFVI) - This is set right in the second half of the game when the player is Celes on the island with Cid. She assumes that, as the only two survivors, the rest of the party is dead. But then a bird shows up with Locke's headband wrapped around it.

There's so many more like this in the set and I am so delighted to see them. Snort, Bedevil (the airship getting destroyed in the apocalypse that leads to the World of Ruin), Endless Detour shows Rikku hiding from the lightning, Zack Fair is a card that, when sacrificed, puts all his stuff on the card that he protected. It's so good, y'all.

[sprintingficcommentator]

Can

Can someone tell me what the hell did I just see???

Can someone tell me what the FUCK DID I JUST HEAR!??!?!?!

(spoilers for Vengeance Saga below)

Six-Hundred Strike, just... Ody, bro, you REALLY have absolutely no fucks left to give, huh?

Bitch, you literally went fucking RAGING FERAL on ONE OF THE BIG THREE, WHAT THE EVERLOVING HELL

LOOKS LIKE ATHENA DIED But last I checked goddesses can't die- AND TOOK ALL THE BRAINCELLS WITH HER

If you tell me that Ares himself took a hold of his mind, I would totally believe you, Jesus Christ that was BRUTAL AF

I-

I just-

I'm speechless. Absolutely gobsmacked. I don't know what I expected from the Vengeance Saga, but what I just saw never once has gone through my mind. Never.

Also, the Cloud Strife's Omnislash homage? Absolutely gorgeous. Cloud would be proud.

[wyldscrawl]

JORGE DID YOU REALLY HAVE HIM OMNISLASH POSEIDON IM GOING TO SHIT

[rottenpumpkin13]

FF7 Remake 3 finale boss prediction:

Sephiroth: If you wish for this world to be cured, Cloud... then leave the path to us... to I, Sephiroth, and my consort and mother, Jenova.

Cloud: "Wrong, OMNISLASH!"

[altocat]

You know, alto... Do you get the feeling that "Rebirth" Sephiroth, while stronger than ever, is kind of like "less refined"? It's an idea that has been starting to occur in TV Tropes, you know, and I myself agree.

In Remake, he's all overwhelmingly fast, brutal, and yet precise as the final boss, but in Rebirth? Blocking and dodging his attacks become surprisingly simplistic in the pattern, he relies on excessively flashy skewering techniques and shows of force using Whispers as projectiles that leave him vulnerable. Hell, when he's using Whisper Whirlwind, his Masamune can be targeted to weaken him, while Whisper Cannon makes his wing a weak-point. He didn't have any of that on Remake. It's like he's traded the skill, the style that made him so great in favor of displays of strength and Whisper attacks, and that makes him easier to deal with compared to when he is using weaker but more efficient moves. In fact, SEPHIROTH REBORN can use his human form's moves bigger but much slower and less accurate, like how Zanshin Profane are twice the size of the normal Zanshin's, but move with less than half of the velocity, and Hell's Gate produces a large glowing spot on the ground where it's going to strike that stops moving well before the attack actually arrives.

In general, I think his COMBAT SKILLS are starting to atrophy. In fact, the final round of Rulers of the Outer Worlds is a virtual copy of Sephiroth. He doesn't have any wings, he uses similar tactics and moves than the ones he used in Remake, and is a vastly more difficult opponent despite being weaker. What do you think about this, as such a Sephiroth fan yourself?

I'm sure there's not actually a science to it. He just has different game mechanics lol They had to actually build an in-game system for Seph since he's playable early on so it makes sense for him to functionally operate differently than he did in Remake.

Story-wise though, it would certainly make sense to a degree though. Opera Omnia has mentioned the idea of Sephiroth starting to stagnate in terms of his battle moves. That's why him actually blocking what looked like the beginnings of Omnislash was actually REALLY interesting in Remake. The Sephiroth at the Edge of Creation is different from the others....

[vvooper]

I forgot to take my meds last weekend and accidentally spent way too much time dreaming up pokemon teams for ffvii characters, so here's the one I made for cloud

I'll put details under the cut. I tried not to make the team complete trash but I definitely chose form over function when I had to lmao. I accept no responsibility for what would happen if you tried using it

I'm not skilled enough to make custom sprites, so I just did a recolor of volkner. blond, spiky-headed, depressed... good enough

species: altaria

ability: cloud nine

item: grip claw

moves: fire spin, will-o-wisp, substitute, roost

well of course I need to give cloud the cloud pokemon. named nibel because nibelheim's name is derived from niflheim in norse mythology, meaning "home of mist/fog..." or maaaybe cloud, if we stretch it a bit. that's right, nibelheim is a big ol pun.

no meaning behind the ability choice other than more cloud.

as far as the set goes, well. we're immediately getting this out of the way: I am a terrible person. grip claw causes binding moves to last for seven turns every time. and our binding move is... fire spin. and we also have will-o-wisp for good measure.

substitute because a fake nibelheim was reconstructed.

roost because it was cloud's home I guess

species: perrserker

ability: steely spirit

item: life orb

moves: iron head, close combat, double-edge, foul play

I chose perrserker to represent cloud's punisher mode because he can use it to self-induce the berserk status.

the life orb as well as the stronger but more reckless moves like close combat and double-edge reflect how the berserk status makes cloud deal and take more damage

species: revavroom

ability: overcoat

item: adrenaline orb

moves: gunk shot, spin out, high horsepower, shift gear

thought about naming it fenrir, but decided to save that for another mon, so here we are with the hardy-daytona.

adrenaline orb raises speed when intimidated, which felt pretty appropriate for the bike cloud uses to escape the shinra building. spin out, high horsepower, and shift gear should all be pretty self-explanatory

species: aegislash

ability: stance change

item: razor claw

moves: iron head, sacred sword, retaliate, swords dance

quintessential big sword video game character needs big sword pokemon. named after cloud's ultimate limit break of course.

omnislash guarantees critical hits, so razor claw boosts the holder's critical hit ratio. sacred sword and swords dance are... sword-related. as for retaliate, its power doubles if an ally fainted in the previous turn. since cloud uses omnislash in his final duel against sephiroth and sephiroth is directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths of multiple people that cloud cared about, it seemed appropriate

species: lycanroc (dusk form)

ability: tough claws

item: assault vest

moves: stone edge, drill run, trailblaze, accelerock

here's fenrir! it's just a wolf pokemon lmao, inspired by whatever cloud's got going on in advent children. I went with dusk form specifically because cloud has both light and dark in his character arc.

honestly, the rest of the set is not super thematic, aside from trailblaze raising speed and accelerock having priority

species: deoxys (normal form)

ability: pressure

item: life orb

moves: psycho boost, meteor beam, superpower, extremespeed

cloud can have one (1) mythical pokemon, as a treat. or maybe not a treat, considering. space virus pokemon seemed too perfect not to use. I chose normal form because cloud eventually becomes the most well-adjusted of the four big Jenova Havers in the end, somehow????

the real reason that jenova has the pressure ability is because that's the only one deoxys gets! but let's pretend I chose it because of the compulsion of reunion or whatever.

item is life orb again because being infused with jenova cells gives you cool powers, but Watch Out! similar with superpower. extremespeed has no drawbacks though, so we've got that going for us. and I'm a terrible person again, because here comes meteor beam ready to destroy the planet. and we also have, uh. psycho boost. for the psychosis. yeahhhh

since I've already spent way too much time thinking about it, I might do this for the other characters too

[equinox-dust]

I've been watching FF7 Advent Children recently and I'd like to make a small HC based off this image below:

Flumpty enjoys plenty of games, but one of his favorite's is probably Final Fantasy 7 and he loves Cloud the most.

He likes to cosplay as Cloud while terrorizing any anime convention he happens to visit.

The Buster sword Flumpty wields is probably the real deal. Maybe he stole it from Cloud when he wasn't looking. (He also steals the Fusion Sword too.) Flumpty could also recreate Cloud's moves, like the Omnislash Ver. 5, Cross Slash, Braver and his favorite: Meteorain.

I love Cloud Flumpty so much. I wish there were art based off of this silly lil thang!!! <3333