#quick catton asks

[quick-catton]

barry with a puppy i repeat barry with a puppy and his shirt rides up oh god

I'M TRYING TO POST IT TRUST IT'S TAKING FOREVER TO LOAD BUT OHHHH MY GOD

[themarychain]

Saltburn: text post meme 🦌🔪🏰🍷🪽👑

PART 1 / PART 2 / PART 3

[lazzarella]

Felix asking ‘better?’ when Oliver throws up in the maze and telling him he thinks he should go to bed, literally moments after telling Oliver he makes his blood run cold. Like he’s still looking out for him, despite everything. He can’t help it! 😭

[k-wame]

SCENES FROM A MARRIAGE | 🥀 A Lover's Spat Felix & Oliver for dir. Emerald Fennell · Saltburn (2023)

[the-toulouser]

HAPPY PRIDE SALTBURN NATION !! emerald fennell, drop the version where felix and ollie live happily together to celebrate, girl!!! begging pleaseeee

[im-getting-help]

OMG Oliver, why did you lie? why did you tell me that your parents were addicts and dealers? that you didn't have siblings? why would you say that your father died? you came to my door crying and telling me a story about how your dad died in an awful way. Why?

Oliver, being completely honest:

[xavigab]

Um same high school now same college

Ollie was junior with a huge crush on senior Felix, but he’s not really noticeable cuz everyone in school liked Felix :/

They meet again in college and Ollie’s crush faded but like Felix notices him as one of those little fans he had, so he thinks Ollie got into Oxford for him (very self centered haha)

Felix told ollie that he was delusional and to stay away from him, and Ollie’s just like ??? Cuz he literally just said hi

Ollie became friends with Michael, like GOOD friends, Michael’s weird but kinda nice to hang out with?

Anyways farleigh talks to Felix about Ollie and recommends him as a tutor for Felix cuz Felix isn’t doing so well :0

Felix reluctantly goes to ask Ollie for tutoring help and thinks Ollie will just say yes but when he finished asking, Ollie just stares at him for a second before grabbing his things and leaving LMAO

Anyways then it’s just Felix following Ollie around and asking for tutoring classes while he notices how cute Ollie is (at some point he stops asking and just wants to hang out)

Michael doesn’t let Felix get close to Ollie when they hang out. Like he took Ollie to his room just to lock Felix out hahaha (they became rivals but Michael keeps winning haha)

[ib3li3v3you]

Christ id let this man do unspeakable things to me ESPECIALLY with that scruff 😩😩

[overleftdown]

farleigh analysis part 2, because the first post wasn't enough. this is going to cover all scenes set at oxford university that i find significant to my understanding of the character (this ended up including pretty much every scene with farleigh in it). once again... buckle up.

[0:03:48] farleigh: oh, he's got the scarf. hey, cool jacket! and the tie?

starting off with a banger! this is farleigh's first line, his introduction as a character. this is how the viewers are intended to see farleigh, at least for this portion of the movie. this is what i'd consider an outer-circle perspective of farleigh, how the majority of his classmates understand him as a person. catty and casually rude. it's significant how surface-level and mild this introductory piece of dialogue is. farleigh is pointing out how hard oliver is trying to appear mature and scholarly, because farleigh is too nonchalant to try hard to fit in (haha).

[0:07:10] farleigh: i'm so sorry. got completely lost- hi, nice to meet you. so sorry. tutor: you're farleigh start, i take it. nice of you to join us, finally. you're not a, uh relation of frederica start, by any chance? farleigh: uh, shes my mother. tutor: no! i knew her when i was your age, when we were both here! when she was frederica catton, before she went to america. farleigh: no way! oh my god, i'll tell her! she's gunna be thrilled that i'm being tutored by one of her friends.

and again, an outer-circle perspective. here you can see the supposed influence of farleigh's family title. "when she was frederica catton," signifying the beginning of the end of frederica's social rappour. farleigh is a product of his mother's abandonment of everything the catton's stand for; wealth, coldness, heartlessness. however, from this perspective, the one we've been introduced with, farleigh is still hiding in the ghost of his mother, before she moved, before she had him.

[0:07:48] tutor: not sure we ever spoke. farleigh: ...oh.

HEHEHEHEHE. i giggled.

[0:08:48] oliver: so you're picking apart the style of my essay instead of the substance? that's kind of... farleigh: kind of what? oliver: lazy? farleigh: it's completely valid to debate the rhetoric of an essay. it's not what you argue, but how. tutor: great point. oliver: yeah, especially if you haven't read any of the poems.

i think this dialogue is incredibly fitting for farleigh's character. as in, it represents how farleigh interacts with people at oxford, with the cattons. picking apart the style rather than the substance, because it's not what you argue, but how. using that comparison, oliver pointing out that farleigh clearly didn't read the material is synonymous with farleigh being clueless to how and why the cattons truly tick. this makes farleigh's socializing hollow by nature. whereas oliver... he does his research. he learns how the cattons function, what motivates them, what their dynamics are. he doesn't play into style or rhetoric; he doesn't need to.

[0:13:11] felix: oh, there he is! oliver! ollie! oliver, come here, mate! yeah, come here. come here. what? come here!

farleigh's face visibly drops, and he sits up straight where he's sitting beside felix. he's not disgusted, nor offended. he looks anxious. a few seconds later, as felix says "this is my fucking hero, right here," farleigh is giving oliver the gnarliest look. he's fidgeting with his hands, and you can see him swallow. i think he looks a healthy blend of angry and exasperated. as it's made known later in the movie, felix has a notorious savior complex. farleigh knows exactly what's happening.

[0:14:00] (shots) you can see that, between the last timestamp and this one, farleigh has been displaced to the other side of the table. previously, every single sighting of felix has farleigh glued to his side. standing right next to him. farleigh on the opposite side of the table as felix is very indicative of the very real threat that oliver poses to farleigh's stability.

[0:14:10] farleigh: it's your round, man! oliver: i should go to bed. farleigh: wait, no no no. you can't snake your way out of a round. oliver: i'm not. farleigh: it... looks like you are.

the most important thing about this scene that i'd like to point out is that oliver would not have, and should not have, stayed for his round if it wasn't an intentional plan. the nature of "buying rounds" was made clear and is clear. he reasonably shouldn't have stayed and specifically left when it was his turn to pay. that's gnarly. that's generally just rude.

[0:14:30] felix: farleigh. farleigh: what? felix: just cut him a break, mate. farleigh: what? felix: that round's gunna cost a fucking fortune. farleigh: pub rules, felix.

yes, i understand that farleigh is being intentionally confrontational. but felix consistently falls flat when "combating" the judgmental attitude of his family and classmates. although he did exactly what oliver wanted him to do by paying for the round, he lacks a genuine purpose behind his verbal condemnations. felix wants to believe he is morally better than his family, the people he surrounds himself with. because of this, he lacks passion. farleigh surrounds himself with whoever felix surrounds himself with; he has become part of felix's background noise. he has become another steppingstone to felix's upward climb to righteousness. another blurring, booing voice, antagonizing the people felix protects and defends.

[0:16:09] felix: yeah, well you know farleigh basically grew up with us. oliver: i didn't know you and farleigh were cousins. felix: mmm, my aunt, farleigh's mum, ran away to america when she was 19 to escape the cold-hearted english. ciggie? oliver: eh, i don't smoke. farleigh: dear aunty fred married a lunatic who pissed everything she had up the wall and a fair chunk of dad's money, too, until he had to finally cut her off.

(oliver did know that farleigh and felix were cousins tbh what a liar, can't believe he would lie like that. unbelievable. truly criminal).

at 0:16:10, farleigh watches felix and oliver sitting with each other at a party. this is played behind felix's voice-over, as he tells oliver about farleigh's family history. i find that so emotionally impactful. jealousy is a hard emotion to read on someone's face, but almost always, farleigh just looks sad. i often see him glancing down; this can often mean disappointment, insecurity, deep thought. at 0:16:27, you can see him briefly scrunch his eyebrows together as he watches felix light oliver's cigarette. he looks confused, judgmental, or surprised. the only thing i can compare this to is taking a bite of food that you didn't expect to taste horrible.

i wish we got to see more of farleigh and his mother, or at least what their dynamic entails. we know he asks (begs) james and elsbeth to give frederica money. we know that frederica was either too kind or too weak to cope with her family. we know that she was well-loved at oxford, or at least had some admirers. i find it poetic, that frederica ran from the english, and now her son is running back in place of her. i also wonder about farleigh's dad. there's no mention of him, past this scene; but if he's no longer with frederica, why would she still be cut off by the cattons? are the cattons really that cold to her, or is frederica still married? curiosity, man. i'm about to start making stuff up on the spot.

[0:16:42] felix: well dad, you know, he felt so guilty about the whole thing that he decided that he would pay for all of farleigh's education. oliver: lucky farleigh. felix: oh, fat load of good that's done him. he's been expelled from almost every school in england for sucking off the teachers.

at 0:16:50, farleigh is shown with a woman on his lap. she's more adult than farleigh. i think it's relevant, considering the voiceover.

i think an important word in this dialogue is guilt; it's a strong motivator among the cattons. yet, it's an inconsistent one. because the cattons guilt is so external as opposed to internal, there is a threshold at which their guilt feels resolved. they just have to convince themselves that they are charitable and therefore good. there is no real understanding of love, and what comes with it. there is no intrinsic need to support their family, simply because they are family.

i don't know what to say about farleigh and his relationship with authority. clearly, he has an unhealthy attachment to transactional and exploitative relationships. how does that complex interact with his social life? his family life? to live surrounded by money and to surround your life around money creates a need to quantify everything. it means you're trying to understand what you're worth, and what your actions are worth. this can also be a testament of farleigh's character; is he just unwilling to put more effort into school? is he unable to compete with the schools that he's attending through money instead of merits? yes, james is paying for his education, but since when? how long has farleigh attended school in england, and what schools did farleigh attend in america? there's a large difference in education. i digress. i find this detail about farleigh significant and upsetting in a lot of ways, and it would be just as upsetting if he really did just prefer transactional sex over doing his homework.

[0:22:27] (oliver sees felix at the bar without him) and this is where farleigh regains his place next to felix. the framing of the shot specifically includes farleigh and felix, centered together on screen. oxford is the only period in this movie where you can truly consider oliver and farleigh mutual threats. this is the limbo, where both of their minuscule actions could change the course of their relationship with felix. oliver and farleigh are both intimately aware that only one of them can exist at felix's side, only one of them can be felix's accessory. oliver's motivation to be in this position is infatuation. he hates what felix represents and loves felix as an individual. is this the same for farleigh? how much is farleigh motivated by his love for his cousin? how far devolved is their relationship, since farleigh realized he needed to play a game just to be treated with compassion by his family?

[0:26:30] farleigh: oh, nice tux. oliver: thank you. farleigh: wow! it's a rental, right? oliver: yeah- farleigh: yeah. yeah, the sleeves are too long. always check the sleeves! but still, not bad. i mean, you're almost passing. oliver: for what? farleigh: i don't know! a real human boy.

he's so petty, it's hilarious. there's not much to say about the majority of this interaction, other than the fact that farleigh is overcompensating for his own social insecurities. to be expected. i like that last line, though. "you're almost passing for a real human boy." does that have anything to do with oliver's poverty? maybe it's just a jab at his fashion choices. i think it's also safe to say that farleigh finds something legitimately unsettling about oliver. or maybe he really is just prepared to give felix's new project a tough time. there are a few reasons for farleigh to go out of his way to make felix's friends uncomfortable or inconvenienced; almost all of them are petty. venetia does the same. elsbeth, who shares felix's habit of hosting people, seems thoroughly entertained by oliver.

farleigh's oxford era is hard to get a read on. he's truly just... rude. he's also scared. his dynamic during the school year with oliver is so compelling to me, because oliver is still in a place of deep instability. he almost lost felix halfway through the year; he needed a high card to win him back. farleigh doesn't play cards, though. that's one of the biggest differences between the two characters. for all their similarities, the only action against oliver that farleigh seems to have is being mean. oliver is driven by an obsessive ambition to control, interfere, dominate. during the school year farleigh is shown, repeatedly, that he just wants to get through it. he's coasting, truly. he slides right back into place next to felix when the spot opens up, and he stays in the background. again; all style, no substance. no research. the cattons were never a game, to farleigh. they were just an uphill battle. they were his family.

[pleasepleasepleasegivemegayppl]

where you mother fuckers who used to write hannigram fanfics please i’m begging you to start writing saltburn fanfics i need more cannibalism as a metaphor for love and obsession but w oliver and felix please please please please please

[quick-catton]

girlboy ollie for the timeline ! (◠‿◠✿)🎀🩷🍭

[tookhimtomypenthouse]

My Saltburn AU is that Oliver is about to poison Felix in the maze but changes his mind at the last minute and just kidnaps him instead. I feel like Felix never really grasped exactly how psychotic Oliver was (he didn’t even know about the bathtub!!) and he only had a moment to process that Oliver was doing this out of “love” and not garden variety envy.

I wanted more of their conversation in the maze: “I do know that you make my fucking blood run cold” but extrapolated to a longer period. I wanted more of Oliver finally laying it out in the open “…how much I fucking love you” I wanted more of Felix being confronted with the harsh truth of just how high he perches over the rest of the mere mortals “everyone puts on a show for Felix” I wanted more of Felix processing exactly how much danger he was in and watching his annoyance turn to terror.

Just picture this happening in a basement over a month and then Felix tricking Oliver into setting him free because who wouldn’t met before those puppy eyes??!

I love your brain because you’re as insane as I am.

But I agree. I think it would be really interesting to see how the dynamic would change - Oliver was kind of Felix’s pet or possession the whole summer. Even Venetia notes how Oliver is just one of Felix’s toys.

Felix would be absolutely out of his element. I don’t think he was every truly afraid before the moment in the maze. He’s never had to be the object or toy, he always had the upper hand. He’s bright so he would catch on and use his charms and Oliver’s love for him to leave, but how long could he really be free of his loyal dog Ollie?

I don’t think he could ever extricate himself fully from Oliver as long as they are both alive.

[adamprrishcycle]

Hey,, can you elaborate on the interesting parallel btwn Adam and saltburn you think about

Of course!!! Oliver reminded me of adam sooo much. I got immediately attached to that little freak. Saltburn spoilers ahead.

They’re both born with less than others (or so we believe in oliver’s case, though he is definitely less well off than the cattons obvs), they’re both extremely intelligent, very observant, calculating…some might say manipulative. They both befriend rich people but while oliver changes for these people, specifically to become what each member of the family wants, adam is very resentful of this which is probably the main thing that separates them. You wouldn’t catch adam DEAD letting gansey buy his round of drinks. BUT I’m not forgetting about harvard adam who becomes gansey and makes up this version of himself that others will accept, that others want, that others will love (sound familiar??)

I’m obsessed with adam’s character arc and how he could’ve become the villain at the end of the raven boys. And with that, adam could’ve become like oliver, though I believe adam is too too smart to do what oliver did, how oliver did it. Adam would run circles around oliver quick.

I reblogged a gifset the other day of oliver and felix communicating through eye contact and knowing looks and it is so painfully adansey. There are 4 times I counted (and remember, there might be more) in trc where gansey and adam communicate with their eyes and nothing else. This is when I first got obsessed w this parallel…. But you’re asking me, would adam do what oliver did? If you’re talking about killing off his rich friend, absolutely not, adam’s worst nightmare is gansey dying and it being his fault. But drinking his bath water and fucking his grave? Yes. Definitely. Without a doubt.

[elspeth-catton]

felix and ollie and catton quick headcanons plz :)

also just general saltburn headcanons gimme the lot

okay here's just some random thoughts that have been floating around in my mind

oliver and felix help each other with their papers after they became friends

oliver helps felix get his point across more clearly without rambling aimlessly

felix helps oliver sound less boring and grab his professor's attention better

they both get much better grades with the others help

felix only wants to do school work if something else he has to do is less appealing (aka doing revisions instead of dealing with oliver when he was annoying him) it's giving undiagnosed adhd

speaking of he gets so bored soooo easily

he hyperfixates on people, latches onto them wanting to spend every second with them and then ditches them when they no longer bring him enough serotonin

oliver tries so hard to fight against that he fabricates a whole world for felix (and it's still not enough in the end)

i think by oliver's birthday, the real reason why felix took him to his mom to reconnect is because he was getting bored of oliver again

he wanted to get rid of him in a guilt-free way that still made him the "hero" for bringing a family back together

he had no real reason to go so far out of his way to do that but he would if it was also for his benefit

i do have some cattonquick ideas but i feel like there's very few, if any, where a relationship with them either at oxford or at saltburn wouldn't still end in the same way as it does at oliver's birthday party

unless felix doesn't die that night and they get together later on, his almost death being a nexus for them to start fresh

but i don't think either of them would have a lasting relationship or anything more than friends with benefits, until they both fundamentally change as people

so it's just a question of if they can change enough for it to make a difference...

[pumpkinnsoda]

Hope you're doing okay ❤️ been missing you on my dash

Omg hi guys.

I went through an absolutely horrid friend-breakup, think Felix finding out about Prescot. Also I’m in a derealization episode and I’ve been getting other hyperfixations.

But!!!! Im back and I plan on finishing out what remaining Saltburn WIPs I have, then moving my brain rot focus elsewhere while still interacting with Saltburn

Luv you guys <333

[dandyduel]

HELLO WHAT ARE YOU THOIGHTS ON SALTBURN ( MAINLY THE QUEERNESS OF IT ALL)

Helloo!!

Personally I adored Saltburn, and hope to rewatch it in the coming days (amen to friends letting me use their streaming accounts).

I think the queer lens was an interesting aspect of this film, and there has been an engaging discourse surrounding whether or not it follows through on foreshadowed queer engagement.

The key themes of Saltburn (desire, becoming, wealth) and the ways in which they are explored throughout the narrative undoubtedly holds a queer essence at its core, with Oliver Quick's 'becoming' at the forefront of this. Particularly in regards to his obsessive nature and increasing hunger as he augments a deeper and arguably more sexual connection with Felix and the extended Catton family.

I think to assume that Oliver was calculated and precise in his ascension to become a figurative 'King' of Saltburn's estate is to undermine Emerald Fennel's storytelling as well as the stellar performance of Barry Keoghan (who in all the interviews I have read/viewed presents a wonderfully fleshed out understanding of the character, which flows into his embodiment). In many ways this is the same as his apparent queerness. It is clumsy and unsure, yet carnal and intrinsic. It is calculated until faced with a moment of animalistic desire, at which point Oliver becomes governed by his urges. He is presented to the audience as an individual with complex desires and motivations - as well as an unreliable narrator. Hence, I believe it to be slightly foolish when people attempt to discount the nature of his relationship with Felix due to his statement: "I wasn't in love with him"... Sir, you defiled his grave.

While Oliver's personal identity as a queer person is ostensible, the themes present and the means he exploits (ie. Farleigh handjob, submission to Felix's desire to 'save' people) in order to make his way up the 'food chain' (or perhaps 'the divine right of Kings' is more fitting) are undoubtedly that following a queer framework; elucidating the ways by which man can be driven to depravity by his desperate search for something to conquer/ someone's life to indulge in. As well as I think the themes of consumption as closeness which does not sound dissimilar to the examples of 'queer yearning' I see so often (and often find myself also expressing) on this site.

Anyway -

(Thanks for asking me abt this!!! I'm sorry this isn't proofread or really fleshed out beyond the thoughts that have been marinating in my skull since I left the cinema but I could ramble for an age. hope this wasn't too higgledy-piggledy! <3 xx)