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fumifooms · 26 days

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Dungeon lord Chilchuck

What would his wish as a dungeon lord be? What would he be like? Headcanons & speculation post for fun. But I’ll start with analytic lead up because that’s always fun for me, though feel free to skip and skim.

When it comes to what Chilchuck’s dungeon lord desires could/would be like we have mainly 3 hints: His nightmare, his succubus and what the winged lion says to him.

Why: — From what we see nightmares are based on the person’s worst fears and insecurities, both Laios’ and Marcille’s nightmare were closely tied to their dungeon lord wishes (Laios’ dream monster being summoned to crush the ghosts of relationships that represented the pressure to fit in and belong, Marcille seeking control over death and aging through magic to avoid loss), the fuel behind their desire/goal if you will. Fear and deep-seated desires are seemingly closely tied, something also supported by Thistle and Mithrun’s reigns as dungeon lords (Thistle proving his worth through fulfilling his given duty + protecting his loved ones, being listened to instead of having to listen, Mithrun escaping rigid two-faced elven society and living in a wonderland where he has no enemies and he’s loved, free from everyone he knew yet propped up by the person symbolizing his brother being chosen over him, the bastard child).

— I’ve talked about the significance I assign to the succubi often by now, but rundown: What we see of each character is all very telling if you care to listen, it shows not only someone’s "ideal form" but what they want from it. Izutsumi’s is familial, offering a hug and comfort, Marcille’s is romantic with a character she knows and loves, offering a kiss on a hand and a connection regardless of how distant it actually is, and Laios’ is platonic, arguable at first but then Laios’ fear of judgement is placated and he is offered the picture perfect friend group that accepts his interest (if you want my full look at Laios’ succubus go here). They take on the most alluring form, most ideal person of their victim, even uncovering deep subconscious desires, so precisely and effectively to the point it leaves victims physically frozen before the object of their desire. Succubi and the demon are themselves tied in lore and it’s easy to see how similar their core skill are. Succubi don’t give a good idea of what a character would wish for on their own but they certainly give hints on what they crave, regardless of how you want to read it.

— Last bit is self-explanatory. To placate Chilchuck and win his compliance over, the monster that reads your soul like an open book offers to give him something specific. But! It’s also important to remember that the lion isn’t offering to fulfill Chilchuck’s dream world wish here, it’s a second prize, because his goal with what he promised Laios is that they’d stay in this world, away from everyone and everything else. Chilchuck wants to get away but is kept back, and it’s here the lion placates him with "hey it’s okay! You can’t do that but I can still give you this! This is enough right? It’ll make everything easier on you".

What each bit says: — Long version in another post. Tldlr: His daughters and family are obviously important to him, and this reinforces that he takes on the role of protector a lot, he’s constantly worried for his party members’ lives and implicitly his family’s. Safety and stability, both economical and otherwise, are his core values and goals, and he berates both others and himself if someone fails on those fronts. Here, there’s the fear of not being enough, of not having been able to protect, and of course of loss.

— Chil’s succubi are obviously sexual, and not only that but agressively and straightforwardly so. It’s not like Marcille’s where there’s personality involved, all they do is give him sultry looks and pretty smiles before jumping on him. His succubi aren’t like Izutsumi’s, always the same exact person and appearance, so it’s not someone but an appealing general idea. The idea of a sexual being he can regard as simply a gorgeous piece of meat and a good time no strings attached. In my interpretation, especially with my reading of Laios’ succubus where even with deep-seated desires negative emotions can be too intense to effectively freeze a victim, I think this doesn’t contradict his character. Relationships have been painful to him in the past, in the succubus scene when his wife gets mentioned his immediate reaction is to yell "Don’t bring her up now!", like with his habit of drinking and as a tallman liking his senses feeling dulled, it’s about not having to feel emotions with how difficult they are to deal with sometimes and just feeling good, or at least not having to think, for a while. If a succubus showcases someone’s ideal connection with an ideal person, then Chilchuck’s is with a pretty person that doesn’t stir any negative memory or drama, someone low stakes and low maintenance that doesn’t require him to manage or talk out feelings because there’s none involved in the first place.

— Once more, wife and family are important! He does long for his family, not only his wife but his daughters, and vice versa. This suggests not only that he wants good relationships with them but that he wants them to be with him, a family life. Far from the cut communication they all more of less have during canon, and perhaps far from their life pre-canon when he worked away from home a significant amount of time. We’ve seen recreations of people by the winged lion before with doppelgangers and monsters (naga), and though he claims he can make satisfying imitations, what we’ve seen is that they base themselves on the best memories of that person, like with Marcille’s dad, or twist behavior to be more pleasant, like Mithrun’s lover (and possibly twist appearances depending on the person’s view of them, but that’s Mithrun analysis). The line does suggest Chilchuck would want his family members as they are in reality and not idealized versions, but the circumstances are chaotic and urgent enough in the scene (and again the lion isn’t fulfilling Chilchuck’s wish but trying to make him content for Laios’) that it could just be the winged lion saying what he needs to to convince him the fastest possible, and like we see with Laios that can crumble to give way to deeper or more complex desires.

On top of that we just have general info on Chil. How does Chilchuck deal w his issues? What does he like to do? He likes alcohol and ignoring his problems. We have to remember there is a split between what someone would consciously wish for and what their soul uncontrollably irrationally craves. As always with Dunmeshi, there’s a narrative of irrational deep-seated desires vs active wants, what you crave vs what you strive for, what you dream of vs what’s actually good for you, the animal vs the human inside you, heart vs mind. Chilchuck craving a harem of hot babes in his fantasies but wanting his family life & wife back again is not mutually exclusive. You may crave becoming a monster and tasting what humans are like a little but still want to save the world & your friends more.

Btw can we adress the irony of him terrified of being the last one alive, of being left by his daughters and wife, of having left and coming back home one day to see everything gone or rampaged, yet not caring about dying of liver failure himself, knowing every time that he enters a dungeon there’s a real risk he may not come out. Die somewhere I can’t see you. I prefer leaving you than being left behind. He’s selfish and shortsighted like that… Chilchuck is selfless in many ways of course, but perhaps also due to his own relationship with his parents, he often undermines the effects he has on others in his relationships, both the good and the bad (he talks himself down about being cowardly and greedy yes, but never hints at his bad health habits, alcoholism and starving himself, may have affected his loved ones, doesn’t question his wife falling into a bad mood the night before she left, and talks about the possibility of dying here and there very casually, though obviously he tries his best to stay alive when it doesn’t concern his health).

Chilchuck king of "Let me just avoid and ignore my problems surely they’ll go away, things might work out and if they don’t well tough luck I’ll survive and I probably deserve it anyways". If I don’t look at it it will dissapear <3 Why care when you can simply not think about it.

You might not understand Mister "my love will stay strong through months of work travel and also 4 years of separation" and Mister "well idk my siblings and me are kinda strangers and my dad is dead but that’s kinda whatever", but typically relationships need some form of maintenance and emotional availability…

The actual headcanons finally

I kinda have 2 routes in mind for dunlord Chil and both of them are centered on "I care too much, i wish things were easy", so first is a lot like his succubi, it’s full on indulging in his guilty pleasures like alcohol and bodies and it’s to keep him in a constant state of thrill and euphoria and distracted, unfeeling about stuff that really matters. "Nothing matters except that I’m enjoying the moment!" vibe. He gets to live a life worthy of Dionysus, with alcohol and women and debauchery and like— never having to think again, never having to feel anything but pleasure again, never have to feel guilty or shitty or angry or sad. He has a harem and gets everything on a silver platter.

Breaking news demon magic-induced rush of euphoria and power still not enough to cure this man of his self-hatred nor his capacity for thought!! But in his case a state of euphoria is what he seeks I think, to kinda mask or replace the Everything Else.

The other is what I think closer to what canon suggests, with what WL implied too with "I’ll make you a new wife and kids like the originals!! 😊", it’s a (spoilers) Wandavision type thing where it’s a slice of life where he’s never at work and always at home and the family eats lunches at the dinner table together and everything and everyone at any moment is just. Happy. No issues. It was all a dream, this is real and everything is fine and your family is perfect and happy. I like to think the timeline would be wonky, his daughters would fluctuate in age, but he’d want to be there for what he missed, would want them to still rely on him and look up to him like when they were young, would like to forget that they’re now independent adults and the distance that grew between Chilchuck and his siblings is happening between them as well. Chil would want doppelgangers of his family imo, at its core just a general wish for a peaceful happy family life with no drama, no need to compromise, a little paradise of unconditional love and no consequences. It’s for sure straightforward, but Chilchuck is a man with straightforward desires…

But see Chilchuck is a greedy man, and he wants it both ways without having to sacrifice anything or expanding any efforts himself. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. I think playing with these two opposite directions and mixing and matching is most fun. Him leading a life where he indulges in all his worst habits while still having everything he wants… Him getting to have BOTH his wife and any woman he can imagine up, his life like two sides of a coin he can flip at any moment where he’s partying then he’s at home enjoying the quiet and his toddler daughters playing with toys on the carpet. Christ when you remember it’s all an illusion that’s terrifying, the doppelgangers and succubi from the winged lion playing chilchuck ping pong.

A safe little haven both security-stability wise and emotionally. Gets to have both the relaxing and the thrilling in any dose he wants, mixed or separatedly. What I’d argue he had pre-canon too: Can live it up in taverns away from home, stays away from home for long periods of time, and can come back to home aka the symbol of relaxation and safety whenever he decides to. Something he can leave and come back to at will, an anchor he can trust in (until it’s taken from him and his wife leaves. Or in his worse nightmare people rush in and kill his daughters). The ideal of a house and family to a working man, perhaps…

I think it’s fun to think on wether or not these desires would be interesting at all to the winged lion… In canon he seeks out "rare/complex desires", common simple things like I imagine riches, sex, substances and pleasure would be are boring to him, he’s eaten those so many times already. So perhaps he wouldn’t last long as a dunlord, the WL would want to eat him fully quick, can’t keep him interested or waiting long for a meager meal, too much effort raising the cattle and too low quality meat. By making it more twisted or layered Chil’s desire would become more desirable to the demon, it’s part of what’s fun with the third option to me. But whatever. Has he ever eaten a guy with this much repression and self-sabotage... Like trying to get the meat out of a walnut, enrichment…

Other dunlord Chil takes I’ve seen that are fun and good:

@feelo-fick and @pluvio-floret have a dunlord Chilchuck AU project dubbed "tragedy AU" where Chilchuck is said to be "on vacation", in a weird delirious state, only half-there half of the time… From which he doesn’t want to wake up </3 Quoting Feelo, this is why the vacation thing is only a half-joke cause he is 1) letting all his responsibilities go 2) indulging in himself and 3) "spending time with his family" <- lie but you get what i mean. Additional comments that have me vigorously nodding: because changing is hard why cant things just be okay right now without the effort !!! Life is hard he’s so so tired he just wants to feel good… he just wants life to feel nice and easy for a sec while he can learn to breathe again and lose the stress and trauma he’s accumulated…….. spoiler alert yes !!! in fact a depressed person can suck themselves into their job and lock out the world who wouldve thought !!!

And then Cabinette I know posted about his dunlord take once but I don’t have the link, in which Chil has a lot of nosebleeds because of mana overload which is fun and interesting to think about imo~

In dunmeshi, where characters get underground pockets of the world as their playground disconnected from everything outside and the rest of the world, it’s important to remember to face reality even if it has conflict and people with different views and stances from you, it’s something Chilchuck and Marcille and everyone needed to learn, and the thing with a dungeon lord AU is that you imagine a timeline where he fails to <3

A timeline where his dungeon lord wish is to desire nothing bc hope and want has only ever hurt him would also go so hard. Very universal thing though I suppose.

… And this is why a Chilchuck-centric Coraline AU is really really interesting and fitting and topical— Ok that’ll go in a separate reblog/post at @Fumiku I need to let this end

#Dungeon meshi #chilchuck tims #Analysis #dungeon lord chilchuck #Spoilers #dungeon meshi manga spoilers #Wish we could put just parts of a post under a ‘click to read more’ box that scrolls open and closes neatly #Bc 3/4th of the post is just extra explanation for ppl who don’t See The Vision already but like that’s not what i wanted most of the post #to be really gdbdg #Headcanons #You could say the family also represents something he’s built up with how own hands. If he has self-worth issues and thinks he’s a screw-up #in the virtue/honor and likability department especially— his family destroyed/killed also represents the one biggest good thing #he’s done/created crumbling also. Like his wife leaving without a word while he trusted their relationship this can hugely impact #one’s sense of identity and self-worth and what you’re living life for. In his case it’s not too surprising he turned to simple #physical pleasures for comfort and enjoyment. Like with tasting good food having moments feeling good keeps you going #He always focuses on the bad relationships bring and never the good aghhhh #The reverse of Marcille who often idealizes. They both ignore problems in their relationships in opposite ways.#What do you mean why do i bring up marcille. Okay yes this’ll get a marchil Fumiku short brainstorm reblog as well #Chilchuck is so… curse of having feelings and not realizing the extent of them. Underestimating how much you care #It’s either ‘i’m fine who cares’ or falling into the pits of despair and blaming himself n spilling his whole bag no inbetween #Dunmeshi succubus #Fumi rambles #boy that’s what this boils down to i suppose #Family angst “Hey I came back home from work and i’m tired so don’t talk to me about problems or anything k? I’m here to relax smh damn”#< unwilling to admit he has issues he should be working on or that some things are affecting others negatively #Chil you are so enneagram 6w7 <3

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icewindandboringhorror · 6 months

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examining a seemingly normal image only to slowly realize the clear signs of AI generated art.... i know what you are... you cannot hide your true nature from me... go back where you came from... out of my sight with haste, wretched and vile husk

#BEGONE!!! *wizard beam blast leaving a black smoking crater in the middle of the tumblr dashboard*#I think another downside to everyone doing everything on phone apps on shitty tiny screens nowadays is the inability to really see details #of an image and thus its easier to share BLATANTLY fake things like.. even 'good' ai art has pretty obvious tells at this point #but especially MOST of it is not even 'good' and will have details that are clearly off or lines that dont make sense/uneven (like the imag #of a house interior and in the corner there's a cabinet and it has handles as if it has doors that open but there #are no actual doors visible. or both handles are slightly different shapes. So much stuff that looks 'normal' at first glance #but then you can clearly tell it's just added details with no intention or thought behind it. a pattern that starts and then just abruptly #doesn't go anywhere. etc. etc. )#the same thing with how YEARS ago when I followed more fashion type blogs on tumblr and 'colored hair' was a cool ''''New Thing''' instead #of being the norm now basically. and people would share photos of like ombre hair designs and stuff that were CLEARLY photoshop like #you could LITERally see the coloring outside of the lines. blurs of color that extend past the hair line to the rest of the image #or etc. But people would just share them regardless and comment like 'omg i wish I could do this to my hair!' or 'hair goallzzzz!! i #wonder what salon they went to !!' which would make me want to scream and correct them everytime ( i did not lol)#hhhhhhggh... literally view the image on anything close to a full sized screen and You Will SEe #I don't know why it's such a pet peeve of mine. I think just as always I'm obsessed with the reality and truth of things. most of the thing #that annoy me most about people are situations in which people are misinterpreting/misunderstanding how something works or having a misconc #eption about somehting thats easily provable as false or etc. etc. Even if it's harmless for some random woman on facebook to believe that #this AI generated image of a cat shaped coffee machine is actually a real product she could buy somewhere ... I still urgently #wish I could be like 'IT IS ALL AN ILLUSION. YOU SEE???? ITS NOT REALL!!!!! AAAAA' hjhjnj #Like those AI shoes that went around for a while with 1000000s of comments like 'omg LOVE these where can i get them!?' and it's like YOU #CANT!!! YOU CANT GET THEM!!! THEY DONT EXIST!!! THE EYELETS DONT EVEN LINE UP THE SHOES DONT EVEN #MATCH THE PATTERNS ARE GIBBERISH!! HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THEY ARE NOT REAL!??!!' *sobbing in the rain like in some drama movie*#Sorry I'm a pedantic hater who loves truth and accuracy of interpretation and collecting information lol #I think moreso the lacking of context? Like for example I find the enneagram interesting but I nearly ALWAYS preface any talking about it #with ''and I know this is not scientifically accurate it's just an interesting system humans invented to classify ourselve and our traits #and I find it sociologically fascinating the same way I find religion fascinating'. If someone presented personality typing information wit #out that sort of context or was purporting that enneagram types are like 100% solid scientific truth and people should be classified by the #unquestionaingly in daily life or something then.. yeah fuck that. If these images had like disclaimers BIG in the image description somewh #re like 'this is not a real thing it's just an AI generated image I made up' then fine. I still largely disagree with the ethics behind AI #art but at least it's informed. It's the fact that people just post images w/o context or beleive a falsehood about it.. then its aAAAAAA

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camzverse · 2 months

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wish some of u were into typology id love to know how youd type some fnaf chars so bad

#but all most people know ab typology is that fake 16personalities bullshit Sigh #and i havent tried typing any of the chars (specifically talking ab modern fnaf chars) like ness or cassie or greg bc im just not sure if i #agree w the consensus on pdb dot com.. i feel like infp so4 cassie and istp sx6 greg are total copouts but i havent thought about it so IDK #injecting enneagram theory into all of ur brains and making u give me your thoughts on this/j /sillaayyyy #also theres the whole istj or isfj ness debacle and idk if i lean more towards her having te aux or fe aux or totally different type..#ig i can see si user ness but. I DOJT KNOW!!#and some of u really GET the characters more than i do man. u could impart revelation i cannot conceive of #ALSO BC THERES ONLY ONE VOTE ON TONYS PAGE AND IT MAKES ME EVIL. HE IS NOT E7 GET REAL #even so7 is a stretch. actually. i dont know. but i dont see E7. where is his gluttony!!! i have no idea how to type him tho😞#but hes typed enfp which is bullshit bc Ne doms would not be so into reality like him dude. i dont see it #i was thinkung a ni-se type or some shit but that might b a copout too and idk. i have no idea #Siiighhhh i hold ancient knowledge that i cannot use alone yet no peer shares my sight (i dont know what im saying anymore)#if any of u are into psychology and dont know ab typology u should sooo ask me ab it i will gladly inflict so much information onto u!!!🫶🏼#or better yet if any of my fnaf mutuals Are in the know ab it. HI HELLO? please tell me your thoughts on any fnaf characters typologies #as if anybody even read this far down. i sound like a madman probably. /silly #cam.txt #also i was thinking cassie is probably E6 not E4 bc of her whole fear of abandonment issues she has going on??? or whatever??? sp6 probably

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torchickentacos · 2 months

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you ever scroll past some sort of discourse that you didn't even know existed, and you have to take a second and realize that, while none of us are superior to others, some of us ARE much better at choosing which dumbass hills to die on? because I think sometimes you deserve to go 'huh. at least I'm not getting involved in all that'.

#well idk i'm still wasting time typing this out but that's marginally less embarrassing as an outsider than the people arguing about it #tw abuse mention in tags #so APPARENTLY!!!#enneagram mbti people are complaining about enneagram 7s being predisposed to being manipulative (?)#someone's like 'my sister was a 7w8 and neglects her kids' like jesus christ i don't think her enneagram is why she does that?#saying this as someone who LOOSELY AND UNSERIOUSLY enjoys mbti/zodiac/boxes to put my blorbos into:#these people are just doing the zodiac but for people who think they can armchair diagnose others they dislike with cluster b disorders #like congrats you made it worse and combined it with pseudopsychology to make some hellish ableism amalgamation #and it was already stupid to begin with but man you really took it up to 100 #like we do realize that this is all fake. right. this isn't an actual psychological profile.#and taking it seriously has worrying implications? and you cannot judge someone based on anything but their behavior?#like again i get having fun with these things as little categories. my autistic ass loves sorting things into categories.#i will give my blorbos full star charts for 6 hours. yay categories.#but with the caveat that it's unserious and for funsies and not at all an actual representation of any human being?#like when i say 'i'm such a taurus lol' or whatever i'm not actually under the impression that it dictates my actual personality?#it's all confirmation bias anyways. people see what they want out of this kind of thing #like yeah i'm kinda lazy and i like food and self indulgence but. that's probably like half of the. idk. virgo population or whatever too #i think those are just things that most human people enjoy unless you're one of those super ambitious go-getters who never slows down #same goes for every other trait. curiosity? emotion? stubbornness? logic? those are just things that most people have in some capacity

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butterscorner · 3 months

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Typology community stop being cringe part #941837

The day you all stop being ableistic we will be able to finally talk about cognitive functions and how they truly work and show up in all kinds of people. Yes, i'm too neurodivergent to fit into your narrow definition of ni dom.

Also socionics was right and very realistic in their characteritzation of IEI (INFJ mbti) we are not "wise martyrs/sages", we are rabid little gremlins.

#buttery talks #mbti #enneagram #typology #btw autistic =/= INTP type 5 you ableistic fucks #one is a core motivation and emotional vice and the other a literal inborn different brain structure #as an ex-cashier i also cringe at those bar codes gen alphas have going on with their types #“isxj 5w6 so/sp/sx EFVL ABCDEFGH chol-sang”#it just feels wrong and out of a dystopian movie #why would you do that? (of course talking in the hypothetical case all this shit is even real)#that erases the mystery the complexicity and magic of the human soul it feels like some sort of robot code i hate it

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messiahzzz · 1 year

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personalitydatabase is a trainwreck, we been knew. one of the most hilarious things i have seen lately tho is people actually voting gale as SP dominant

#have we been playing the same game #how is he focused on his physical well-being and mortality in any way #mr. ‘oh yes suicide seems like the only valid option’#enjoying sensory pleasures and comforts does not equal self-preservation #yes he enjoys good food and wine and exotic soaps and whatnot #but so far this man has been barely hanging on by a thread #he is the type of person you have to constantly remind to pls take better care of himself #let him be the sp blind mess he is #enneagram ramblings #instinctual variants #gale dekarios #it speaks #i also feel like he def has a 4 fix going on #idk if i’m just projecting here but the constant feeling of being defective seems pretty 4-ish to me

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helianthus-talks · 1 year

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Coriolanus Snow is enneagram 3 sp/so, I said it.

I might have forgotten some details in TBOSAS but I found out some people typed him as Enneagram 8?

He didn't step into a situation and immediately take charge or intimidate people like Enneagram 8 usually do, he didn't command the room either. He cared a lot about his image and the Snow name, concerned about showing the right image of the Snow family and doing his part as a Snow. He was also quite detached from his human traits like empathy in his pursuit of success and security, always thinking about what he could gain from a particular decision he made — that currency or 'quid pro quo' mindset is very Enneagram 3. He was focused on climbing the ranks. He got closer to people with power, authority and influences; like the insane doctor despite knowing the woman was dangerous, and Sejanus' parents, and his 'friends'. This is why he liked Lucy Gray at first, because she attracted the attention of the audience, i.e. influence. He smiled and pretended while working his way to the top. He's so enneagram 3, the worst kind, of course.

I haven't thought about his MBTI but I found out people also typed him as INTJ. I mean.... if that's true, INTJ enneagram 8 would not budge like he did, they would not play the game. INTJs are stubborn about doing things their way, INTJs are not always aware of social dynamic like Coryo did, plus they lack loyalty to traditions or the established rules of the social game. INTJ enneagram 3 however? They would adapt and play the game, while disagreeing with it at the same time and changing it slowly to fit their needs as they go. Which Coryo did. Well, he might not disagree with the Hunger Games but he didn't exactly agree with everything that was going on (at first) either, he just didn't fight against it like Sejanus did. He insulted people in his monologue but he still played the game, he made changes in the Hunger Games too.

#personal #he also valued things that reminded him of the Snow family status like the rose #the Snow family was known for the rose when they were still a powerhouse #he kept it going #his focus on survival and security for himself is from sp/so instinct #I know enneagram 3 has this stereotype of being flamboyant #maybe that's why people didn't type him as 3 #bcs he's not exactly flamboyant #but i just? he's so 3 #idk maybe some of these typings were from the original series instead of TBOSAS #which i guess makes sense since we didn't get much info about snow in the original series

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lord-shitbox · 1 year

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extremely hard for me to enjoy games im not good at. also people pointing out that im bad at them or making fun of me for being bad at them is possibly one of the singular worst feelings on planet earth

#shitboxposting #playing games just to feel like im getting a good grade in gaming is. honestly not ideal i wish it weren't. so severely baked in2 #my personality. i need to be good at things to compensate for my self worth (he has enneagram 5 disorder)#nearly halloween..hope my friends want to hang out again this year #we still go trick or treating. as long as i have friends i plan to keep doing it i will do it when im 30 idgaf.

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ifievertoldyou · 1 year

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hmmmm.. is thaw!slime an e9 or an e1...? or an e7? but maybe i got the potential e7 core vibe bc he's a really healthy e1 (and also most likely still has a 7 fix)????

and also when i guessed e9 for him, i figured he probably has a 1 wing. but maybe it's the other way around and he has a 9 wing??? though wings are confusing sometimes (and honestly, they're relatively new in comparison to the rest of the enneagram so the stuff i'm reading doesn't even include them most of the time. + they're really divisive. some ppl in the enneagram community think that both of your type's wings have an impact on you, though maybe at different points of your life, some ppl think only one wing ever does, and some people disregard wings entirely.. im not fully sure where i stand on them yet tbh, though i do think they're interesting, even if there's not as much info about them as there is for other aspects of the enneagram.)

but like, e1s and e9s are both in the anger triad, and so they both care a lot about autonomy and control, they just get it in different ways, through their different stances. e9s withdraw to feel some kind of autonomy, while e1s try to earn/work for it.. (btw e8s are the aggressive stance, so they'll be the ones who Demand autonomy. just in case anyone was wondering)

then there's always the question of how much autistic traits play into personality traits, and how they differ (this is also a problem that i ran into when trying to type both myself and my litle brother). bc e1s like for things to be done right all the time, but an autistic sense of justice can also do that. so how much is the e1 and how much is the autism, and how can you tell the difference, yk? bc obviously not every autistic person is an e1. there's no single 'autistic' type (though there technically kinda is, since naranjo called e5 the 'autistic type', due to how they are known for having very fixed interests and not being great at or interested in socializing with other people all that much. ofc, i don't think he's saying that all autistic ppl are e5s, nor is he saying that e5s are all autistic, just that there's a lot of overlap between those traits. but comparing the enneagram to things in the dsm is honestly a whole other post in itself..) but like. it's a bit hard to have one type encapsulate a wholeass spectrum, and i've made a list on where different autistic traits and experiences can overlap with the different enneatypes.

but yeah i'm just not sure on thaw!slime's type yet lmao. he definitely hasn't shown up in the story enough times for me to actually type him with very much certainty as of rn, this is mostly just me speculating on what he Could potentially be, and pondering on where potential mistakes could be made... i guess we'll just have to wait and see :]

#thaw nation #the enneagram is great and super accurate. as long as you correctly type the person in question. therein lies the issue.#i think that's part of why ppl are skeptical of this test tbh. bc most of these online tests for the enneagram are disgustingly inaccurate #so ppl go with the wrong types for themselves and then it's not as helpful as it can be #i thought i was an e2 for the longest time (back when i didn't know anything about it).#then i actually got into it a couple years later and realized that that test i took was very inaccurate and the results skewed towards e2 #ofc there are other reasons too but that was definitely my issue with it before. i was mistyped and figured that it was just a bad typology #ever spin #forgive me for any mistakes in this. it is 2 am 👍

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buysomecheese · 2 years

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Fellas, tell me-

Is it very ESTJ, 6w5, 269 tritype of me to kin Upside Down & Inside Out (OK Go), Humpty Dumpty (AJR), Belonger (Maxton Waller), It’s Called: Freefall (Rainbow Kitten Surprise), Northern Attitude (Noah Kahan), All’s Well That Ends (Rainbow Kitten Surprise), Upside Down (Jack Johnson), I Won’t Let You Down (OK Go), Real Men (Mitski),? Is it?

#anyways if you know anything about enneagrams or grottoes or mbti please. tell me about myself (/nf)#(/nf)#the rest of my tags are venting feel free to ignore those #I’m not going through anything rn #I’m feeling totally fine #(I want to Punch some Certain People in the ducking stomach)#(I haven’t had a menstrual cycle in Months and I’ve been literally feeling entirely fine and I’m healthier than ever otherwise so-)#(- I’m worried about that. I think English is incredibly fucking stupid as a class. I cannot Wait until college. this is such a period of-)#(- growth and change for me. I’m getting a job. I might ask someone out. I still can’t drive and I’m upset about that. I know who I want-)#(- be friends with now. things are coming together and I am weeding out things that are bad for me. I’m so derealized half of the time and-)#(- it contradicts with everything else going on so strongly. I wish people would own up to their faults and not take on more than they can-)#(- handle. I have so much confidence in myself and my abilities but I don’t think I’m worth anything. I know what I deserve but that’s-)#(- the bare minimum and nothing more. I know that if I Left today I’d believe that everyone would love on within the week but I also know-)#(- there are people and organizations that would Not work the same or nearly as smoothly as they do now. I don’t know what to do with-)#(- myself but I have Everything planned out. maybe I just need to work out and be active idk I’ve been in a car all day.)#estj #6w5 #269 tritype #what is a #tritype

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covenstrays · 2 years

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the absolute VISCERAL need to comment directly on some instagram accounts stupid little enneagram post because they put one of your fave characters in the wrong section.

#`` MATTHEW MURDOCK IS A TYPE 9 AND I WILL DIE ON THAT MF HILL !!!#`` they put hawkeye as type 9 which like ? ok fine ? i guess ??#`` god the whole post was just. so bad. i hate you cariactures i hate you lack of nuance --#`` type 9s always get caricatured as reserved and quiet and just. ^__^ all the time.#`` which like! they can be!!!!#`` see: nahia #`` but the Ultimate Downfall of a type 9 is letting their inertia drag them into the fucking ground.#`` and shoving down their DEEP DEEP WELLS OF RAGE so far fucking down #`` that they numb out their entire body physically mentally emotionally etc.#`` anger is a Bad Emotion unless it is done for Right and Good Reasons (hello one wing)#`` MATTHEW; A BITCH WHO NAMES HIMSELF FOR THE LITERAL DEVIL FOR HIS ANGER.#`` relationships don't often explode at the end -- they just. fizzle out. because type 9s would rather ghost than face any personal conflict #`` I COULD GO ON RANDOM ENNEAGRAM INSTA ACCOUNT.#`` BUT I WON'T. NOT WITH MY WHOLE ASS GOVERNMENT NAME.#( OOC: COVEN MOTHER. )#`` an argument can be made for type 1; whose 'cardinal sin' is actually wrath.#`` but the way daredevil can numb out his entire body and get the beating of his life and STILL get up ?? mmm !!#`` sorry babes!!! thats type 9 shit !!!

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icewindandboringhorror · 1 year

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everyday I miss miitomo .. aaa

#these screenshots are not even good or the most interesting/funny/cool ones from back then #they just so happen to be ones I found in a folder so am thinking about them solely for the memory of it all #WORST thing is I never even had friends (still don't have friends really that have many similar interests to me lol..epic hermit moment) who #played or were willing to do I didn't really use the social aspects much. if there were any?? maybe I'm just making up a better game in my #head lol.. I thought maybe you could visit your friends apartments at some point or something? I know you could have multiple mii characters #and put them in their own apartments too.#I could also be mixing it in my mind with tomodachi life. which is a superior game. but also I think mostly I just loved the dress up and #photo creation aspects of this. That you could spend like 30 minutes putting your little avatar person in different lttle poses with differe #nt backgrounds and import your own custom background and etc. etc. And the community questions & answers section was always ridiculous #WHY is it that all actually good and cool things end up shutting down and nobody cares about them but then some tv shows/games/etc. can keep #going for like 808989598590 years when they are actually very bad and stinky and pointless #I know probably something somehting profit motive. if something sucks but is hyped blindly and sells then that's all that matters.#things that are cool and innocative but have a small audience get poo poo pee pee Not Good Enough For Shareholders whatever #>:(#This is why I don't play apps or online games /anything live service or that is dependent on external things to function #Like every once in a while I do but for the most part if something is not it's own self contained experience then I dont care to even get #invested in the first place because it could just randomly be taken away from you at any time without warning or etc.#Also just charmed by anything that incorporates personality tests into part of the structure of an app even in a minor.comepletely trivial w #ay due to my preexisting obsession with anything in the realm of that topic (enneagram. mbti. etc. even astrology. just any way humans categ #orzie and analyze themselves. NOT because I think they're all scientifically valid methods and swear by them in practuce but like. the theor #y of it. I love personaliy testing from like.. a cultural perspective? like the fact that humans make this stuff up at all. and how they use #it and conceptualize it and apply it to their lives. the different frameworks within which the same traits can be categorized in different w #ays. one person looks at X trait and says its bc theyre a virgo. another explains the same exact trait by saying it's bc theyre an infj. etc #I mean some of them I do find actually personally fun to get into themselves (enneagram mostly) but mostly I just like the.. analysis #tfw you're such an analytical person you like to spend time analyzing analysis. Thinking abt the ways people think about thinking abt things #Actually Ive talked before about how I don't relate to/care about/get emotionally attached to media/dont exhibit Fan Behviors or join fandom #s or etc. BUT that is actually the one vaguely media related thing I WILL do. after watching something I like going to places like that #'personality database' site which is the public voting on character's personality types. and I do enjoy going to read the comments. not bec #ause I care about the character themselves. but I love seeing the paragraph long debates about like.. why Whoever is actually an intp NOT an #intj . or like 'OBVIOUSLY theyre 3w4 so/sp ILI are you FUCKING BLIND??!'. essays breaking down every cognitive function they ehibit and why

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ujunxverse · 1 year

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got my fortune read again and listen, i legit DO NOT believe in it at all but it continues to shock me how each time i get my tarot read by either my friends (which, to be fair, there's a bias there) or professionals i end up getting the same results and the same message. the worst part is i don't even tell whoever is reading my cards that "oh, yeah that one fortune teller told me the same thing." these mfers literally pull cards out of nowhere and the combinations can all be different, yet the message stays the same. the deck and the method of fortune telling could even be different, but i just keep getting the same damn message and the same damn results...

that to me is so... it's testing my eDgY intp-t fr

but also ngl it's nice to know that the universe is on my side <3333

#ujutxt #now hear me out #i ALSO don't believe in the mbti or the enneagram #the thing is with tests like the mbti and the enneagram if you take them one too many times you can rig the system #like say i wanted enfp #i can literally just answer the way an enfp would if that makes sense #the answer combinations are so obvious #but tarot #that shit baFFLES ME #IN BOTH GOOD AND BAD WAYS #like in one way the cards themselves are so bs but in another way #the readers are basically psychoanalysts #they LOOK at you and infer how the basic archetypes of each card can be related to your life #it's also so #interesting?#to see how much improv skills you need to read a super random deck adn go “hmm yeah you have a bit of a wobbly path here in aroudn 2025”#then proceeds to explain how the hermit and the knight of swords together means i'm spreading myself too thin #like ???#that takes SKILL #even MORE skill when you're doing it to someone you've literally just met

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sleepless-crows · 1 year

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as someone who actively tries to show that i don't care what people think of me, i actually do care way too much and it is controlling my life whoops

#my mental health was bad not because i was scared of failing or getting low grades #but of how people would perceive me if i wasnt the smart kid anymore #and people calling me smart or the smartest just fuels my ego and demolishes my mental health #to the point my parents noticed i was not ok lol #and even right now i may be learning new things for the fun of it and wanting to be good at things #but thats also because i want to impress people and make others like me #and then theres all my insecurities about people even thinking a tiny bit different of me than who i am or what i want them to think #so much that i get so defensive and petty in situations in my head over such small things #ok no i am not going to fall down an enneagram rabbit hole again but its nice i acknowledged it

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seeingivy · 1 year

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blessing

megumi fushiguro x gn!reader

you and fushiguro talk about names

content: nothing, light mentions of blood

an: your consolation prize - a megumi draft while I edit you belong with me gojo. if your name has a meaning, im sorry it doesn't anymore.

“Do you think names are important, Megumi?”

Megumi flutters his eyes open and squints in the dark to direct his gaze to you. You’re splayed right against his bare chest, nimble fingers drawing indiscernible shapes onto his skin. He knows you can’t sleep after missions, which is the only reason he allows your needless rambling at four in the morning.

“Is this another of those angel sign things Nobara taught you?” he groans, lifting a hand to place it in your hair, the smell of your strawberry shampoo wafting into his space.

“It’s angel numbers and astrology signs.” you respond, lightly nudging him with your elbow.

“That stuff isn’t real.”

“Maybe not Megs, but it’s fun to think about.”

You look over at him and Megumi can feel his heart thumping in his chest, your expectant eyes staring at him as you wait for a response. And he hates that your stupid eyes always make him give in.

“Okay, fine. Tell me.”

You grin and readjust yourself so you’re propped up on his chest, so you can get the perfect vantage point of the grumpy face he’s going to make at you.

“Some people think names have power. Like, depending on what the meaning of your name is, that can affect how you act and who you are and stuff.”

He frowns, reaching forward to flick you on the forehead, before grabbing your hand and resting your knuckles against his lips.

“So you’re saying, if we named our kid asshole, he’d be an asshole?”

“Our kid would be an asshole because you have an attitude problem. Not because we named him asshole.”

He rolls his eyes, reaching forward to pinch your cheeks.

“But think about it, Megs. For example, Yuu’s name means relaxed and caring. Don’t you think that fits him?”

“Itadori is anything but relaxed, Y/N.”

“Okay, well. It’s half true. Nobara means thorny. Doesn’t that compliment her cursed technique?”

“Uh huh. I still don’t buy it.”

“Or Gojo-sensei. Satoru means understanding, like enlightenment. He’s literally the strongest sorcerer.”

Megumi wraps his arms around your waist, pulling you up closer to burrow his face into your neck. He loves the smell of your shampoo, of your flowery perfume - but loves it even more when he can smell it on himself the next day.

“You talk too much, Y/N.”

“Do you know what your name means Megumi?”

“No. I’ve never really thought about it.”

“Your name means blessing.”

Megumi has never wondered about his name or what it means. All he knows is that when he was younger his dad and Tsumiki’s mom disappeared one day, leaving the two of them alone. That is until Gojo showed up.

And unlike you, he’s never really thought about these things. Star signs, Enneagram personality types, birth charts, angel numbers. According to you, they’re little signs - from the celestials, the universe, something out there bigger than you two.

Granted, he knows you’re being silly. That you don’t really believe it. But he can’t help but wonder. If his parents saw him and picked out the perfect name. Or if they saw a baby book and closed their eyes and pointed till they found one they liked. If they named him blessing, because they thought he was one.

If they were intentional in their love for him, like you have been for the past year, the two of you have been dating. You leave a glass of water on his nightstand, so he makes sure to drink water in the morning. Pick up his drycleaning when you’re on your way home, insisting that it’s no trouble and you’re already there. Tell him to throw pennies in fountains and make a wish just because.

“I think it fits perfectly, Megs.” you whisper, tracing a little star onto the side of his arm.

He doesn’t respond, his blue eyes focused on the ceiling above you too.

“I just mean. Gojo-sensei was probably really lonely after everything that happened with Getou. But you were around and he had you with him, so he wasn’t really lonely. And-and I know Yuuji appreciates being here with you and that he really admires you. Nobara too and-”

“Y/N.”

You think back to the mission, earlier today. And it keeps replaying through your mind, every time it’s quiet enough to think about it.

You let your guard down for a few seconds. A few seconds too many because when you and Yuuji turned around, he was on the floor - thick, red blood spilling out of his forehead. And really, if you weren’t busy discussing what souvenirs to buy on the way out, if you were paying attention, maybe you wouldn’t be the one dragging him back to Shoko’s and watching from a distance with such an intense guilt that it made your stomach burn.

“I think you’re a blessing too, y’know? Maybe I don’t say it all the time, but I do. I guess it’s just hard to say how you feel sometimes when…I don’t know, we could die tomorrow Megs and-”

Megumi brings his hand back up to your hair, brushing through the tangles at the back as he presses a kiss to the top of your head. You know Megumi. His hand in your hair - to drop it, to let it go. The kiss on your head - that he’s already looked past what happened.

“What does your name mean, Y/N?”

“Dunno. Couldn’t really find it in the books or anything.”

You wake up to the left side of the bed empty, the mattress cold and missing a Megumi shaped space. His glass has been drained on the nightstand, meaning he’d probably left already for breakfast. You quickly pad back to your own dorm and pull your uniform on, before joining them all for breakfast.

You join the three of them at the desk - already loudly arguing about god knows what. You place a hand on Megumi’s shoulder as you slide into the seat next to him, granting you a small smile from him. He places a hand on your thigh and squeezes, another one of Megumi’s silent messages.

You’re okay.

Nobara and Yuuji are holding up the name book you had looked at the day prior, Nobara pinching the end of his ear as they argue.

“This name thing isn’t true. You’re full of shit.” Yuuji complains, pushing the book towards you and Megumi.

You open up the book, already open to Yuuji’s name at the end of the book.

“Who the fuck said I thought it was true? It’s just fun to look at.” Nobara responds.

“Well, why did you bring it up? You’re acting like you’re connected with some celestial body shit but you’re just making stuff up.” Yuji responds, standing up.

The three of them stand up, packing up their things as they get ready to head to training on the field with the second years. You’re still stuck on the book - flipping through to check everyone’s names. Gojo, Shoko, Toge, Maki.

As you flip through the pages, you note a dark indentation on one of the pages in the middle, and quickly try to flip through to find it again.

“You coming?” Megumi asks, bag slung over his shoulder at the door.

“Yeah. I’m coming, give me a second.”

The three of them shrug as they walk out, their incessant chattering still heard from the window outdoors. You finally find the page and the dark blotches of writing at the bottom.

Someone’s written in the book, with a black marker. You recognize the handwriting immediately, Megumi’s freakishly neat handwriting inscribed in the book.

Y/N. Meaning: love or warmth.

You quickly shut the book and run out, where the three of them are already walking to class. Nobara and Yuuji are now peering over her phone, looking at god knows what, which you take as your opportunity to grab Megumi and lightly drag him back.

“Megs.”

“Hm?”

“Did you write in the book?”

He rolls his eyes, lightly nudging you with his elbows, as you guys keep walking on.

“No. I didn’t.”

“Yes. You did. I know your handwriting, idiot.”

“No. I didn’t. And even if I did, so what? The book was missing your name.” he responds, pinching his eyebrows as he looks at you.

“Okay. So you did write in it. But you can’t just give my name a meaning, we don’t even know if that’s true.”

“All words have made up meanings. If someone came up to us and told us that trees are actually called birds, we’d start calling them birds.”

“Okay but-”

“I decided. That’s what your name means. Because that’s what you are. Now, be quiet and focus on training.” he responds.

He drops your hand and walks past, stretching in between Nobara and Maki as the group of them start stretching out. He looks over and gives you a soft smile, the one he only reserves for you, and you can only think that you truly are blessed, to be loved by someone like him.

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