#sokovia accords

[el-ffej]

NEWS FLASH:

Oh, REALLY???

[therealdisneyfan2319]

And I OOP 👀

[checkingoutforheroes]

Too much, my dear.

Y/n: Natasha, I trust you, I do, but are you sure about this whole thing?

Natasha: As for now, we have to pick a side.

Y/n: The discussion about this accord alone makes us fight. I don't want the Avengers to break up.

Natasha: That makes us both. None of us want that to happen, but you understand the accord. You'd know both side has the consequences. You just have to make a choice, for which side are you on.

Y/n: Are you going to Vienna?

Natasha: I have one more place to stop. I'm meeting Steve, hope he already made his choices. It's up to you but I'll be glad if you were there.

Y/n: I haven't made my decision.

Natasha: Bye. For now.

*Few hours later, at the UN meet at Vienna.

T'challa: Ms. Romanoff. Its a pleasure to see you here.

Natasha: The pleasure is mine.

T'challa: The two of the Avengers here can make a great change and positive review for supporting the accords. Excuse me, I have to see my father.

Natasha: Two? *she turns around and see you walking confidently towards them with a smile on her face.

Y/n: Is that a smile on your face, Romanoff?

Natasha: Well, like I said, I am glad you're here.

Y/n: I trust you. So, you better be right.

Natasha: You love me.

Y/n: Too much, my dear. Too much.

[moonlayl]

OH MY GOD

[entity9silvergen]

It’s been like seven years but I’ve been thinking about this and I need to know.

[marvel-television]

y'know it's always funny when people start arguing about who was right in civil war bc like. Even with just the movie Tony and the pro-accords crowd has no ideological leg to stand on, the only reason we have to at all root for him is that Bucky killed his parents, but then you throw in Agents of Shield? You throw in everything about that third season leading up to Civil War?

It's kinda painfully obvious that the sokovia accords weren't even *really* about the Avengers, but rather the incident in Lagos was just a convenient excuse to subjugate the growing Inhuman population under the guise of "cracking down on the avengers".

The only people we ever see affected by the sokovia accords are A: members of the Avengers, and B: Inhumans. If you're not an Inhuman or an Avenger, you straight up don't have to register. Spider-Man, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, all are heroes that exist in the public eye. Sure, Spider-Man hasn't revealed his identity, but he's still known about as a superhero unlike Iron Fist or Cloak and Dagger.

All this to say, simply having powers doesn't mean you have to register, it's only if you're an Inhuman. The sokovia accords specifically, intentionally target Inhumans, and with that in mind there's not even a slight bit of moral ambiguity in Civil War, Tony is just completely clearly in the wrong.

That's not to say Steve gives a fuck about Inhumans either, he never even brings them up in the movie so he clearly doesn't, but he at the very least accidentally stumbled his way into the morally correct position. There's probably some kind of political commentary to be made there, but idk.

Point is, fuck team tony lmao

[gunsandspaceships]

Ratification of The Sokovia Accords

This post is a reminder that at the time of the events of Captain America: Civil War, The Sokovia Accords had not yet been ratified (and thus were not officially in force) because Helmut Zemo blew up the Ratification Ceremony in Vienna at its beginning. Ratification took place some time after the events (date unknown). So all the actions of the characters in the film should be considered not through these agreements, but through existing international laws and the laws of individual countries.

[wonderwomanpleasesteponme]

Dp X MCU Prompt

The Sokovia Accords have been instated with Team Captain America being the only people who could and would fight against them being driven underground and the cherry on top the Anti Ecto Acts were apart of the Sokovia Accords, so now the GIW could do whatever they want to the citizens of Amity Park. Unfortunately for them the Amity Parkers were not going to take this laying facedown and fought back and they fought hard against them. The American Government seeing this entire town of people who in some shape or form have powers due to the ectoplasm that surrounds them 24/7 violating the Sokovia Accords they decided to just send in the army and get rid of them permanently. With no other choice Danny decides the only way to save his haunt is to pull a Pariah Dark and pull Amity into the Ghost Zone. Years later during Thanos' invasion to collect the mind stone Team Phantom emerges to aid in the fight against the Mad Titan only because billions of innocence would suffer if they don't. They are not impressed with the so called "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" especially those who were apart of Team Ironman / pro Sokovia accords.

[my-insanity-is-an-artform]

Fic Hunt

I once again am searching for a fic I read ages ago and now cannot find. (I really gotta start remembering the Bookmark function on AO3)

It's an MCU fic centered around Peter Parker. I'm pretty sure its from an Outsider POV. It's also an AU based around the Sokovia Accords taking an Anti stance. It might've been multichap or Peter Parker & Avengers. I'm also like 90% certain it was on AO3.

Basic premise is Peter is with his Decathalon Team at a competition (possibly Finals?) when the building comes down and he ends up holding up the ceiling and protecting everyone. I don't think it's a Spiderman identity reveal. However one of the people he saves is like a member of the UN or a politician or something and there's a report on how she no longer supports the accords because Peter just wanted a 'normal life' and the accords would affect that and mutants like Peter 'who aren't superheroes/vigilantes'.

I know it's definitely not 5 Times Someone at Midtown Realized Peter was Stronger Than He Seems by Nexas_Hart but that did scratch the itch or I might have gotten them conflated.

But the one I'm looking for definitely has the report about no longer supporting the Accords due to Peter's actions. That is the most vivid part for me.

Please help. It's been driving me bananas and I have scoured the Peter Parker tag so much.

[agentsofeverything]

aaaaaand guess who's writing another fic!!!!

...it's me :P

if you feel like it's gonna be your thing, feel free to give it a read here :)

[mostlystuckony]

Hey, PSA. If you're gonna comment something rude/mean/negative on one of my fics? Don't.

[calliope-saga]

me: how could the world just accept the Accords so easily?! they’re anti human rights and break like a billion parts of the constitution!

US government: :)

me: ok i see it’s actually v realistic

[ljones41]

Getting Rid of the Sokovia Accords

In the DisneyPlus streaming series, “SHE-HULK: ATTORNEY AT LAW”, the MCU finally got rid of the problematic Sokovia Accords when attorney Matt Murdock aka Daredevil revealed the Accords had finally been repealed.  Considering my six-year criticism of how the MCU had introduced this legislation in “CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR” (one of my least favorite MCU films), utilized it in productions like “AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.”, “ANT-MAN & THE WASP”, “THE AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR”, “WANDAVISION” and “THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER”; I was very happy to learn this about the Accords’ fate.  

However . . . I find myself questioning Disney and Marvel Films’ latest decision regarding the Sokovia Accords.  I have problems with its repeal or eradication.  I have a problem with how Disney/Marvel Films got rid of it - via a throwaway line.  For years, MCU showrunner Kevin Feige tried to tell us that there were two sides to the Sokovia Accords.  I had called bullshit to that idea due to my belief that the Accords violated the U.S. Constitutional and the constitutional rights of enhanced people overall and not just the Avengers.

I had hoped that the MCU would get rid of the Accords by exploring the issue of how the Accords violated the rights of many.  But the franchise never did this.  Instead, the MCU rid itself of the Accords with a quick line - one that would enable the franchise to avoid discussing how WRONG the Accords were in the first place.  All I can say is . . . Feige and the Disney suits are a bunch of cowards.

[valentinerose529]

Privilege and Control

Not that Captain America: Civil War hasn’t been dissected to death by now, but I think a major difference between Tony and Steve is privilege and control, and how that affects their choices. Obligatory “haven’t touched the comics” forewarning, this is purely based on the MCU movies. I also haven’t seen the movies in a year or two, so bear with my plot memory here.

Tony was born into money, fame, and privilege. He’s a rich, cishet, middle-aged, white man, the son of a rich, cishet, white family. He always has money, he always has security, and he always has freedom. Even in his own movies, when he’s put on house arrest by Fury and SHIELD, he’s got a ridiculously loose leash, sneaking out on joyrides and such.     When he’s under fire from the media, he’s allowed to play the part of a childish playboy, and his reputation isn’t overly damaged from it. Even when he causes damage, he uses his fame and fortune to cushion the blow, like buying buildings in the seconds before he throws Hulk into it to avoid the legal fallout.   Yes, this man built his own superhumanity, his tech and his weaponry from scratch, but he’s also coming from a position of privilege, wealth, and freedom that his allies and enemies don’t always have.     When he breaks rules, often it’s for his own gain and wants. He steals SHIELD files, defies and ignores authority and instruction, and is admittedly narcissistic and manipulative when it comes his plans for and treatment of his coworkers and allies, and the assertion that he can be and is the smartest person in a room. He rarely owns up to his mistakes and problems, often attempting to put the blame on someone else.

In comparison, Steve was born into poverty, disability, discrimination, and war. He was the disabled son of a widowed, immigrant(?), lower-class mother, and was regularly sick, hungry, and regularly bullied and attacked. (Yes, I know he started a fair few of those fights, but I’m willing to bet there was bullying and unprovoked harassment for his family and his extensive disabilities.)    He was suddenly elevated in health, strength, and status with the superserum experiment. He fully consented to the procedure; not all enhanced humans can say the same. He was born and raised in a time where racism, discrimination, and government control of freedom and autonomy were rampant. He spent the majority of his first movie battling a corrupt and fascist government organization.     He also breaks rules and often defies his superiors, yes, but typically, he does it with the safety of other (innocent) people in mind. Often, the contextual reason for his rebellion against authority is his presumption that the authority is putting other things before the safety of innocents. When reprimanded, he typically owns up to his actions (although he often reiterates the reason being the safety and protection of the innocent and helpless).

When Tony argues for the Accords and for loss of autonomy, he’s viewing it through the lens of his own freedoms and privilege. He’s used to being allowed to do what he wants, and assumes that the Accords is a positive change for him. His driving factor for the Accords is his guilt and trauma, and he also seems to assume that all the Avengers are like him, both in power, control, mindset, and privilege.     He expects, and gets, a far looser leash than any other superhuman does. Registering his true identity isn’t a problem for him, because he’s been proudly carrying the title of “Tony Stark, the Iron Man” ever since the first Iron Man movie. Registering the full limits of his technology isn’t a problem for him, because he can always take off the suit, or put on another suit with smarter tech and bigger guns. Giving up his freedom and bodily autonomy to a corrupt government organization isn’t a problem for him, because he can and does do exactly what he pleases, regardless of who he claims to be working for.     He doesn’t even suffer for other superhumans using his technology against the Accords (e.g Spiderman), unlike Hank and Hope Pym, who are forced to run and go underground after Ant-Man steals their technology during CA:CW.

When Steve argues against the Accords and for personal autonomy, he’s viewing it through the lens of his own struggles against authoritarian control and loss of freedom. He’s used to being undermined and micromanaged, used as a showpiece and a weapon instead of a human being with opinions and autonomy. He’s well used to a time period when people are criminalized for birthrights and appearances they can’t control, and are forced to register themselves to higher authorities.     Based on all this, he assumes that the Accords are a negative change for himself and the Avengers. Registering his true identity isn’t necessarily a problem for him alone due to his status as a revenant war hero, but he knows the invasive damage it can cause others. Registering the complete measures of his abilities is like requiring normal humans to state how much they can lift or how fast they can run; it’s also a violation of an enhanced human’s privacy and autonomy. Steve can’t simply turn off his powers; he’s always going to be stronger and faster than other humans. He knows that giving up his freedom and bodily autonomy to government organizations he knows to be corrupt and not necessarily trustworthy (see: the launch of a nuclear missile on a major American city still packed full of trapped and innocent civilians; the long-time infiltration of a fascist organization in a supposedly secure government body) is a slippery slope to a familiar government state of profiling and oppression.

To summarize, I think the stances each man takes is due to his privilege, or lack of it, and his power, or lack of it. Tony comes from a position of privilege, and this colors his decisions. Steve was born with and raised in a time with little privilege for many people, and this colors his decisions.

[iseathegalaxy]

team cap how we feeling after matt's very casual comment about the sokovia accords?

[fantastic-nonsense]

STEVE ROGERS WAS RIGHT AND SO AM I