#source disconnected factive

[flagtism]

connected factive | semi-connected factive | disconnected factive

connected faitive | semi-connected faitive | disconnected faitive

connected fictive | semi-connected fictive | disconnected fictive

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[wolfofproendos]

saw a very hateful post, so i just wanted to say that:

those who are introjects of bad people: you are not bad for using your source's name. you are not bad for identifying just a little bit with your source. you are not bad for seeking out fanart, and sourcemates. you are not bad if you do not want to disconnect (yet) from your source. you are not bad for being an introject of a bad person.

[theflowersandthebeees]

I feel like crap right now, and my Headmates advised I got look at people on tumblrs content about me,

And it's working fine and we'll and all, BUT DAWG EVERY OTHER POST IS ABOUT THE GOFUNDME FOR MY DAD, I'm tryna feel better not worse here!!

Uh, anyways halfhearted rant done. I'm gonna go raid our fridge and make choccy milk.

-Adam

[multiplicity-positivity]

Here’s some positivity for introjects who are connected to their source!

There’s no one true or correct way to be an introject - introjects come in all shapes and sizes, and may have a wide variety of ways in which they view their source! Whether a factive, fictive, faitive, objective, conceptive, songtive, or something else, it’s okay for introjects of all sorts to like their source of feel connected to it. If you’re an introject who is connected to your source, this post is for you!

❤️ Shoutout to introjects who identify with their source’s name, gender, pronouns, sexuality, or other identities!

🧡 Shoutout to introjects who kin their sources!

💛 Shoutout to introjects who identify with their source despite having never directly seen or interacted with it!

💚 Shoutout to introjects whose source is their special interest, hyperfixation, or one of their favorite things!

💙 Shoutout to introjects who roleplay or otherwise engage with the world as their source!

💜 Shoutout to introjects who are source divergent or who don’t identify much with their source, but are still deeply connected to it!

❤️ Shoutout to introjects who like being referred to as their source!

🧡 Shoutout to introjects who are tired of their relationship to their source being policed or dictated by others!

💛 Shoutout to introjects who distanced or disconnected from their source, only to reconnect with it later on!

💚 Shoutout to introjects who often feel ostracized or left out of plural spaces because of how they view their source!

💙 Shoutout to introjects whose relationships to their source are intricate, nuanced, or complex!

💜 Shoutout to introjects who go through phases or waves of feeling more or less connected to their source!

Introjects may not literally be their source, but that doesn’t mean they are morally obligated to abandon connections to their source altogether! Introjects can and often do have a wide range of opinions on or relationships to their sources! It’s okay for introjects to love their source or feel strongly connected to it. You’re still just as valid and cherished as an introject, a member of your system, and a member of the plural community just the way you are!

We hope every source-connected introject who sees this can have a lovely day today. Please treat yourself with the kindness and gentleness you deserve, and don’t judge yourself too harshly for how you view your source! Rest assured, you will always be welcome in our spaces without the expectation to change. Thanks so much for reading, and take care!

[militantcoining]

Intertransmission for/of [x] - A term meant to explain how introjects (no matter if they’re a factive, fictive, or anything else) feel as if something from source transferred over with them when they entered the body, and is a invaluable piece of their identity, whether that be as a person and/or a introject.

That “something” for said Introject can be an object, identity, job, etc. Whatever it may be that hold significance to the user.

This term was made in mind with introjects who don’t wish to disconnect from their source, though, can also be used for introjects who do wish to disconnect.

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[tmascyaoi]

that's what im saying :((

4ever haunted by the fact that my ex's system has a "factive" of me

[tommyssupercoolblog]

hiii!! i`m curious, what it means to be factive??

Oh! It's a kind of Introject!

So, you know how in DID/OSDD systems (and other forms of plurality too but you probably haven't heard of those) there's like, multiple different identities in one body? Like, the brain splits off into different people?

So let's say you are part of a system and you watch a lot of TV, or read a lot of books. Maybe you're really into certain musicians or something, too.

Something that might happen is that, if you split a new alter in the future, you might get an alter who's HEAVILY based on one of these figures. You might get an alter who looks, sounds, and is generally based on your experience with a character from your favorite book series, or that musician you hyperfixated on and read a bunch of diary entries and magazines on, or maybe even your best friend. THOSE are introjects! They're alters that are heavily influenced by a specific thing.

That's not to say they won't have influences from other things, just that they got a LOT of a specific "source" incorporated into them.

Factive is just a TYPE of introject- it's a label that specifies that the source you pull from is from reality. These are the introjects of historical figures, or loved ones, or celebrities.

Fictives, by comparison, are introjects who's source is fictional. Movie and TV show characters, book characters, maybe a roleplay character from a previous Dungeons and Dragons campaign or someone from a fictional/story podcast.

Fuckitve is a label for people who's sources aren't exactly fictional OR real (maybe historical fiction, maybe they pull from both a real actor and a character they played in equal measure), and some people make more specific labels for their source genre, like oc-tive (a label specifically for introjects who formed from an OC)

I'm, as you know, a factive! And so is @septiccoffeefreak . When we were created, we were based on the YouTubers tommyinnit (me!!!) and jacksepticeye (Seàn). We're not exactly alike our sources or anything like that, but we came from our exposure to them.

In headspace (headspace is like an inner-world where alters can see and touch and talk to each other. Not all systems have them, but many do.) I sound like my source when I speak, and I look like him too, although I'm smaller than he is, and he sometimes cuts his hair shorter than mine. Seàn also sounds and looks like HIS source. It's also probably safe to assume that a lot of our personality traits are probably based on our perceptions of and experiences with our sources at the time we split, but I don't like to worry too much about where my personality traits come from; They're mine now, so it doesn't really matter!!

Some factives avoid their source, while some actively seek out exposure to their sources. Some factives feel really disconnected with their source, while others see their source as really important to them. It depends on the alter in question!

Me and Seán are far on the "likes interacting with and cares about source" side of the spectrum. We like watching our source's videos and we feel an emotional connection to them. I see my source almost like an alternate universe version of me, like metaphorically I'm Miles Morales and he's Peter Parker, and we're both spiderman. We're two different people but we're still both Tommyinnit, almost as if it was a species of creature. There's a kinship there.

That's basically all you need to know to understand the term and how it works for me and @septiccoffeefreak but I've made other posts about plurality too, and there's also a lot of blogs and stuff dedicated to it :3

[problematic-alter-culture-is]

( kind of vent-y, apologies )

problematic alter culture is not caring to source separate more than i already am.

i know i should try and find more interests outside of my source, and i should try to become more disconnected from my source, especially because i'm a factive, but it just doesn't fill up that hole in my heart like my source does. without it i feel just empty and i miss my source more than i can even explain, so why would i want to disconnect from this? this makes me happy, and i get to see someone i remember being my partner. yeah its weird and potentially unhealthy, but currently i dont care. it makes me feel whole

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[bittyfromquotev]

Basically how it works is everyone has different parts to themselves. As a child these parts integrate to create you! But take a child who's under gone repeated stress those parts don't exactly have a chance to integrate, as a protective measure the brain makes those parts into alters. That's like a extremely simplified way to explain it since there's way more to it than just that but that's the base line of what a alter is. A part that is split off for any given reason. They're not exactly people while also being people! Each alter is different and unique in their own way! That also goes for each system. A easy way to kinda visualize it is like a beehive or an ant colony. Each bee or ant is their own being, all coming together to help make their hive thrive. Protecting their nests except that nest is a human body! What ever ant or bee is in the control room controls that body! Using our system as a example to explain a bit about alters and roles I'm the host, I'm not the original host but I was split off to take that place because things got too stressful for the other ones. I'm basically the one who fronts the most. Puppeteer is a gatekeeper. The alter who has the most power over the system, making sure everything both inside and outside is well and functional. scp682 is one of our protectors, he fronts most often when there is something distressing so he can make that stress go away. Rose is a caretaker, she's basically emotional support! (There's WAY more roles but that's just some so explain by the brain splits off alters for different reasons) Fictives/factives are alters who's personality, physical appearance, and more takes on something pre-existing. Like you probably could guess but 682 is a fictive of the scp! Fictives/factives also can be sourced from multiple things at once! While some only take on a physical appearance. Some fictives/factives disconnect from their source while some don't! Some like to be treated like their source and others don't! Regardless it's important for the system, alter, and those outside to remember that these aren't *the* characters but a alter in a system. So say someone has a sonic fictive, for someone to automatically assume that they're going to be exactly like the character is socially wrong.

This helps a lot! Thank you for explaining!

[c-infinity-83]

🐈‍⬛🦇🦴

-🐀🌊 Odysseus

🐈‍⬛- Is there anyone who identifies as otherkin/therian? - Multiple of us but I'm not sure if anyone in our roster is currently! Mind is a robot endel, and Electrochem is technologykin! One part of Drama is also kin with rats, and another part of Drama is kin with the Voice of the Paranoid from Slay the Princess! There's probably more but these are all I can think of rn

🦇 - Are there any songs that you associate with systemhood/plurality or your system as a whole? - Ohoh yes. We have a whole playlist of songs, actually! Biggest ones though are probably We're Gonna Win by Chonny Jash, Edin by The Smashing Pumpkins, A Good Song Never Dies by Saint Motel, and The Chattering Lack of Common Sense by Ghost and Pals!

🦴 - Is anyone in your system dating? If so, who is the strangest pair? - LMAO YEAH LET'S SEE HERE. I guess Flo (one of our Fords, for people not in the know) and I is pretty odd considering I'm a triangle but that pairing is also practically canon in our source. There's Stan and Fids which is odd only due to the age gap (and bc in source they barely interact)—Fids is usually in his 30s (though he DOES age slide up when we're feeling more disconnected from reality) and Stan is in his 60s. But then Stan is also married to Captain Curly (y'know, from Mouthwashing)? And I mean like. POST crash Curly. Pre Crash Curly doesn't much care for Stan that way lmao.

And uhhhhhjjjj. Not DATING per se but Mrs. Capgras (aro as fuck) (also a Ford) and Hammer (aro as fuck also) (also also a Ford) have SOMETHING going on. Actually the whole Ford Subsys is dating/fucking itself so there's that.

I don't think they were dating really, moreso just friends with benefits, but Heart Mind AND Soul (CCCC) all had. SOMETHING up with Electrochem and Volition (Disco Elysium).

Oh wait if we bring our factives into things it gets weirder. Siam and Hammer are also fuckbuddies. You can deduce who Siam's a factive of real easily if you know our favourite band.

speaking of factives I think Mark(iplier) has something going on with Dark(... Iplier.) which is so funny. that's so fucking funny. that's so GODDAMN FUNNY LMAO

ANYWAYS!... yes. We have. Some weird pairings here SHSHDHXXJXJFJC

-Bill

[problematicfactive]

Sending love to the problematic factives that were sourced from a moment in the person's life before they were problematic

Sending love to the problematic factives that are introjected from an awkward teenager with a hard time socializing that happens to have a very bad name

Sending love to the problematic factives that have to look at reflect on themselves weirdly because they -in source- didn't do anything at the period of life in which they were introjected

Sending love to the problematic factives that don't see themselves as introjects of the real life person because of the extreme disconnect on what they had done at the time of introjectiom and what they've done in their life

Sending love to the problematic factives that don't know how to answer questions like "Did you do X thing?" Because they definitely didn't as their own person, they also didn't in the time theyre sourced from, but their source did do it

Sending love to the factives that can't really talk about their relationships because they'd be problematic irl but that are okay because it's insys

Sending love to the problematic factives that want to identify as fictives due to the disconnect they feel but will always be regarded to as factives

Sending love to the problematic factives who, despite everything, still identify as themselves

Sending love to the problematic factives that are problematic, but.... kind of not?

Sending love to the problematic factives

[bugpalace]

BEFORE YOU INTERACT ✦

// pt: before you interact //

I personally don't believe in 'DNI's too much as generally the worst people on there tend to ignore DNIs regardless, and everyone should curate their own online experience (I will simply block if made uncomfortable) so instead of a DNI I'll put in here my stances on topics I find relevant.

With that being said, this account is:

run by a minor, if you don't wish for interaction with minors i recommend you block

// pt: run by a minor //

anti harassment, regardless of discourse stances

pro physical nonhuman and endel

pro mspec lesbians and gays

pro lesboys and turigirls

anti binary categorisation, including agab and tme/tma

syscourse neutral - I'm fine with people on either side of syscourse browsing my blog, as long as they don't harass anyone (many of my moots are pro endo).

anti radqueer / xenosatanist

pro atypical dysphoria with non-harmful transitioning / harmless transids

anti contact for harmful paraphillias, pro-recovery

anti-'pd abuse'

uncomfortable with proship, nuanced on the discourse

of the opinion that factives and factkins are involuntary – if it makes the source uncomfortable they're free to try to disconnect from source

I may post about violent thoughts, whether caused by prey drive or fictotypes of mine. I may sometimes post minor vents, however for both types of posts I just mentioned I will try my best to tag them.

I typically content tag #content, #cw content, or occasionally #tw content. #midnight meows is my vent/rant tag, if you want to block that!

I'd be willing to answer any clarifying questions as long as they aren't invasive, if you're still unsure whether you want to interact or follow.

[multiplicity-positivity]

Here’s some positivity for introjects whose source is a plushie, stuffed animal, or toy!

Not all introjects form from characters, people, or sentient beings. Many introjects May find that their source is an object or something inanimate! This post goes out to all the introjects whose source is some sort of toy, plushie, or stuffed animal!

🧸 Shoutout to introjects whose source is a beloved toy or plushie from childhood!

🪁 Shoutout to introjects who started out as POSIC companions and we’re later introjected into their system!

🪀 Shoutout to introjects of toys and stuffed animals who were consciously formed or created by another system member!

🧸 Shoutout to introjects of toys and stuffed animals who have important roles and jobs in their system!

🪁 Shoutout to introjects of toys and plushies who consider themselves to be factives, objectives, faitives, or some other introject-specific identity!

🪀 Shoutout to introjects of stuffed animals and toys whose source is still a big comfort item for themselves or their system!

🧸 Shoutout to toy and plushie introjects who are trying to source separate or disconnect from their source for their own comfort, safety, or well-being!

Whether you identify strongly with your source, are made uncomfortable by it, or feel indifferent about it, please remember that your identity as an introject and a member of your system is valid! You deserve to flourish, grow, and come into your own, whatever that looks like for you. We truly hope that one day soon you will be able to achieve this!

To all introjects of toys and stuffed animals out there, please know that we care about you and are rooting for you in all that you do. Know that you are welcome and you belong, both in your system and the plural community! We hope that you can find purpose and happiness in your future, and we’re wishing you the very best. Thank you so much for reading, and have a wonderful day!

[brainmade-culture-is]

Primarily brainmade system culture is not understanding how folks introject so easily, because our brain just cannot comprehend it??? Almost all of our introjects are either partially brainmade, so source disconnected they might as well be brainmade, or have a very strange connection with source instead of just the usual fictive/factive stuff.

And also not understanding how brainmade headmates are so hard for other systems, because our brain treats it like designing characters, so it's second nature to us.

(But obviously respecting the differences either way)

~ 🔷️ Collective

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[deakwithit]

My post about introjects was poorly worded so let me rephrase it in a less heated way.

you do not get a pass to be source connected and unhealthily attached to disgusting and problematic people OR medias just because its is an introject.

If you have a factive of Jimmy Urine, and your entire pk profile is centered around your identity AS jimmy urine (profile picture, name, banner, etc), you are no different than an MSI fan. Your introjectism doesn’t give you a pass to openly identify with disgusting people who have done disgusting things.

For fictional introjects, My main point was that fiction does affect reality. For my example with Jimmy, Rape/SA victims such as myself seeing people claim Jimmy from MW as an identity, look for sourcemates (especially Anya), and refuse to disconnect, rubs me the wrong way. He is a rapist character that is in no shape or form defendable. By “problematic media” I do not mean villains, I do not mean morally grey characters, I mean people who are inexcusable such as rapist characters, pedophilic characters, racist characters, nazi characters, objectively terrible people that are irredeemable. Saving fanart of pedophilic characters because it’s your source, and then making that your profile picture, is a CHOICE.

Introjects can obviously form as abusers or a metaphor for abusers, but NOBODY is forcing you to make your profile picture Jimmy MW or Rire from BTD. That is a choice.

Recovery is hard, I understand, it took me a while to learn how to disconnect. But you are not incapable, and being incredibly unhealthily source attached to the point of deluding yourself into believing you’re your source is not beneficial in any way.

You can’t go “woe is me, recovery is hard” while actively doing nothing but further reinforcing your own attachments, along with having others reinforce them too. Recovery should not be forced. But baby steps are all you can take. You have to start somewhere.

“But i’m not glorifying it or telling other people to be source connected, I’m not spreading antirecovery beliefs, I’m just not recovered myself” By posting about your “source memories”, you are spreading antirecovery beliefs. Seeking constant “sourcemates”, and validation from them, is spreading antirecovery beliefs. You yourself may not be recovered, but by posting that, you are further spreading the idea that introjects are their sources. Not every part of you needs to be posted, and that is not me “telling you to hide yourself”, it’s me saying to think before you speak. People see the idea of “source memories” and start to seek their own out, start to try to “find” these memories, further deluding themselves.

You being a system is not an excuse nor make it okay for you to participate in disgusting fandoms like Alfred’s Playhouse, or support creators such as the DSMP CC’s. By having fanart/pictures of Wilbur Soot as your pfp on pluralkit, you are identifying with that abuser, and that makes you a weird person in my book. By having pictures of Alfred Alfer on your pluralkit, and publicly speaking of “source memories”, you are no different than a fan of the source. Supporting a source goes far beyond money. You cannot use your mental illness as an excuse to identify with and further publicly support disgusting real people, and in my opinion, identifying with disgusting characters such as Jimmy, Alfred, or Boyfriend To Death characters for a new example, you are identifying with that persons actions. What Jimmy did happens to people everyday, it has very real world application and affects, your introjectism doesn’t excuse you identifying with and referring to Jimmy as yourself.

You cannot go “recovery is hard” and then do absolutely nothing. Recovery isn’t linear yes, but some of you take that as permission to not even try. Im asking you to take BABY steps, like changing your profile picture, removing the last name of a horrific factive like Dahvie Vanity, interacting less with the source, trying to mentally separate yourself and refer to the character/person as “him” rather than “me.”

I’m not asking anyone to recover overnight. I’m asking you to try, and stop excusing your actions with “but I’m a system, I can’t control my source!” as if theres a gun being held to your head forcing you to announce your source and unhealthily attach to the idea of it being “you.” You may have formed with the idea of it being you, but it is up to you to try and separate that idea. Your point as an introject is not to “be a character”, it is to help your system. I could go into the ways or the why introjects form, but it’s a lot to go into right now.

[altosys]

Our factives discussing their source:

Nagito/Vincent (fac.Source-negative): I did some fucked up stuff, but I'm not my source and I acknowledge that. Will (Source-neutral/positive): Yeah I was a fuckin' schizo mf in source, canonically was a femboy magnet, I don't think I see any downsides other than, ahem, *1995 - 2002*. Brittany (Source-neutral/positive): (Oh god what if people come after me thinking that I'm committing identity fraud-) Honestly, in-source I made some cool stuff, but there's just so much drama and it's kinda nice to be free from that. Ashley (fac.Source-positive): *makes the host realize she was in the front for all of our claire's hauls when we were younger* IIIIII LIIIIVE INSIIIDE YOU FOREEEEVERRRRR- Electra (completely disconnected from their fac.Source): heyo ash. bow chicka bow bowwwwwww