#syscours

[belowghost]

If you are a sys and need to see someone's personal documentation to prove that they aren't an endo. Something is absolutely wrong with you. There should be 0 reason you need to see PRIVATE documents to prove anything. A literal doctor PROVED that you CAN be a sys without trauma. I'm not saying go LIE and say that you have trauma if you do not have it, but the fact that there's a literal "endo checklist" makes 0 sense to me. THEY DON'T KNOW YOU AND YOU DON'T KNOW THEM EITHER. So WHY is it your business???????? That's THEIR personal information. If they don't want to share the shit with you, that doesn't mean go fake/false claim anything on anybody. Has nobody taught you internet safety??? "If you don't show me, then you clearly don't have any at all" ITS PERSONAL FOR A REASON. NOBODY is required to share a DAMN thing with you. You are STRANGERS on the internet. So why are you so concerned about if they stim from trauma or not? Their trauma is none of your business. If they decide to share it with you, then they will. Do not FORCE it out of them. If you're a traumagenic system faceclaiming, harassing or otherwise acting sysmedicalistic and bigoted towards other systems online, without even knowing for sure what their actual origin is or what their life is even like and only going off of some arbitrary list of things that OTHER TRAUMAGENIC SYSTEMS ARE ALSO CAPABLE OF, then you shouldn't get upset when people attempt to do the same thing with you. You aren't owed an explanation as to why someone is what they say they are, and believing that you are is entitled at best and bigoted at worst.

I'm tired of watching people fight. And as a person with a mainly traumagenic system.. I DONT CARE IF YOURE ENDO OR ALSO TRAUMAGENIC. Why? Because it isn't my place nor my business to know what you have going on. "Well you saying this means you suppor-" no. I just don't give a shit about what you are. Endo or traumagenic, I don't give a damn. I don't know you. Therefore I don't care what you are. I'm not supporting anybody. I simply don't care. I have no opinion on endos. As long as nobody is spreading misinformation or harming/bothering ME.. then I don't care. I never will care. I cannot care. Stop using dogwhistle terms to target a demographic just because you don't like them. Just.. stop caring.

[shitty-proendo-blackout-posts]

TW: SouP

[the-gloden-family-thought-blog]

whats your syscourse stance. you seem very proendo

This actually leads to a point we meant to make:

We want no syscoure on our blog, we’ve got enough shit going on

everyone in the collective has different opinions on endos so, yeah.

[sophieinwonderland]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex

First, this is a pretty bad link to get your point across since it mostly discusses the Messiah Complex in the context of religion.

But second... when did taking action to prevent people from being harmed become a bad thing?

When did we decide that it's better to not get involved, to not try to fix what you can, because you might not be perfect at it?

Personally, I would rather take an action that I think has the potential to be helpful but might not work than to do nothing.

If I could characterize everything I dislike about the state of the world right now, it's that the people who just want to hurt and abuse others will do so without a moment's hesitation. But the decent people with the means and ability to help end up paralyzed by a fear of doing the wrong thing.

So I would push back against messiah complex line.

I think that what defines a messiah complex or a savior complex is generally a view that you're the only one who can help. The only one who can do anything.

The thing here is, from what I could see publicly, no one else was doing anything. Lots of people has the chance before I stepped in. Lots of people could and chose not to. One of the worst examples of organized bullying and harassment in recent syscourse, and the most anyone could muster was generic vague posts about how anyone can change and how disappointed they are in what was happening.

No naming names. No engaging with the harassers directly. Not really getting involved in any meaningful way.

If enough syscourers had united to shut it down when it started, it could have been finished long before I got involved.

I'm not going to judge someone too hard for not wanting to engage. People should prioritize their own mental health if they don't want to be involved in drama at all.

But if your only involvement in an incident of organized harassment is going to be to police how the ones actually standing up to the bullies and harassers are going about it, I would kindly ask that you do the absolute bare minimum and get out of the way.

[system-unknown-404]

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[syscourse-confessions]

Shoutout to:

Traumaendo plurals and Mixed Origin Plurals who feel like they're stuck in the middle of discourse.

To the plurals who don't care about their Origin, yet get continously pushed into categories by strangers.

To the plurals who know their Origin, yet continously get invalidated because it "doesnt make sense".

To the plurals who are unsure of who they can even interact with anymore because of all these syscourse stances.

Shoutout to any & all plurals, that are overlooked by syscoure and suffering from it, without ever being acknowledged.

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[circular-bircular]

i wanted to talk about something and how i feel and ask your opinion on it

so, ihate how people in discourse but especially/almost exclusively syscoure will just blatantly say "[x] is not real" because 1. it's often about a group of people (for example endos), which is just blatantly false sorry. endos, like the people, DO exist. are their systems real? fuck if i know. but even if you believe endogenic systems aren't real, the BODY they live in is. and it's dehumanizing to me to say, point blank, they aren't real. but this also goes for other groups of people of course.

2., that's so delusion and dissociation inducing. when you're saying this you are going to cause people with very real and very scary disorders to think they aren't real or that they don't exist. "oh but i'm not responsible for people getting triggered/people should curate their experiences" YES, but there are problems with that. 1. the person has already seen that. 2. youve (general you, not at the blogger) started to Post In The Plurality Tags. you know... where the ENDOS and PRO ENDOS go. not to mention the people who go onto endos' posts or in the endogenic tags and say this.

anyways i wanted your thoughts on this kind of thing because i thought maybe i might be overreacting or making a problem out of something that isn't thst big of a deal

Just like these people are real, your thoughts and feelings and emotions about the situation are equally real. It's very clearly a problem if it's making you feel that way, either because it actually is a problem for many people, or simply because it's a problem for you.

Though, given the sheer amount of discussions about how fucked it is, and how many people agree that it's fucked, I think you're in good company, love.

I for one thing it's pathetic, and I'm the most anti-endo leaning part in this system.

[t4lon]

god damn genuinely syscour/se has gotten.. like i guess Less annoying but why the fuck does everyone have to write a thinkpiece about how actually stance labels dont mean anything and making assumptions based on them is actually bad ^_^ like i get it youre reaching across the aisle...

can you now provide your opinion on the action of labeling oneself Enemy Of [Group] vs. Friend of [Group]? because that is Still what is happening here and its still Dumber to do ONE than the OTHER!

[mikey-boards]

HEYY!! IM THE MIKESTER

I’m a cool as shell fictive who makes cool as shell moodboards and junk :3

main is @doctordelicate-touch feel free 2 add me or just come hang or wtv

DRAWINGS REQUESTS OPEN!!

BOARD REQS OPEN!!

anyways I’ll make smth 4 wtv fandom idc abt discourse (iNCLUDING SYSCOURS I DO NOT TOUCH THAT) so just chill. all hate or tryin 2 argue with me will be DELETED!! Unless ur trying 2 b gen helpful

Anyway yah I can refuse anything I don’t like or don’t wanna do 👍 Proshippers I don’t fw ur junk

[oopsallsyscourse]

Taking yet another break from all syscourse related things for the sake of my mental health. Syscoure fun sunday will still happen as normal tho.

[nugget-system]

!WARNING THIS IS NO LONGER A SYSCOURES BLOG, I NO LONGER WANT TO STRESS MYSELF¡

Hi!! Im Janey, and here’s my introduction!!

As mentioned before my name is Janey! But I also go by: Jake, jade, and sugar

My pronouns are: she/he/they/sweet

I am a homestuck fictive with multiple sources 

Don’t really have a dni, I’ll block as I go!

This blog was originally ran by nugget, but I stole it :B

Alters that might show up!

Cal he/they/puppet -🪆mood booster

Jadey she/dog -🐕 gatekeeper

Dan (Dirk) he/they -🏮 protector

[mechanical-marionette-system]

honestly using bsky is like a fresh of breath air because of the absolute lack of syscour- post cancelled what the fuck is a fresh of breath air

[seasidewanderers]

that was my only syscoure anon message what!

this is your second syscourse anon then 🫡 thanks for your service

[the-cast-system]

THE CAST SYSTEM

**Syscourse free zone**

Ran by:

Evelyn 🪽

Tommy 🧀

Jay 🍾

Clementine 🧃

Jack 🗞️

Your not getting my name. 💚

William 🧨

Dream 🌱

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Jecka 🛍️

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Schlatt 🫀♟️

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Tommy 🧀: Just a lad. He/They

Jay 🍾: He/Him

Clementine 🧃: She/Her!

Jack 🗞️: He/Him 🤠

Catch all name: Cube

Catch all pronouns: They/Them

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[frankwoodsislost]

Honestly I agree. Now sometimes things do need to said and addressed, especially when it comes to important topics regarding the disorder itself. But I’ve seen syscourers go to far many times when they begin to sends things like suibate and telling other people to off themselves during debates and arguments.

Telling people to off themselves is completely unnecessary no matter what’s going on. I understand that you are upset, but please do not tell people to off themselves.

sometimes i think hey what if we stopped being mean and we just took a moment..

syscoursers why don't we just take a breathe what if we all went to a flower field and made daisy chains that we gifted to each other i could make you all cookies and snacks we could watch my little pony and discuss our favorite generations and favourite characters...

syscoursers why can't we be kind!!!! it's nice to be nice!!!!!

[system-of-a-feather]

((TW: Kinda syscourse-related ramble))

((Disclaimer: This is just a ramble post with my thoughts and is by no means meant to be taken seriously as an opinionated thought - it is just me being confused about an aspect of syscourse and please do not take this as an outright stance. In general for syscourse I stay out of it and don’t pay much attention to it other than casual opinions. Feel free to comment, but due to my busy schedule and stuff, I probably won’t reply))

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When it comes to the topic of endogenics and stuff and the debate around it tha I feel is really missunderstood is that - at least for me - I rarely am talking about plurality / multiplicity or anything like that.

One of the reasons I just don’t involve myself in the syscourse is because it really isn’t a topic of interest. It’s an arguement whether or not plurality / multiplicity can be formed without trauma or not - and yeah I have my opinions on it, not strong ones, but I still do - but like... arguing it really just doesn’t interest me.

I don’t see the DID community as a “community of plurals and multiples” or anything similar, I see it as a “community of people with trauma disorder.” I REALLY don’t see my alters as a large part of my experience with DID and so the topic of multiplicity / plurality is only like.... 15% of what I feel I’m interested in talking about.

When I tag #actuallydid or #dissociative identity disorder, it isn’t me going “Oh my alters and my multiplicity” - it usually a reference to trauma, coping, dissociation or experiences.

I feel a lot of conversation is oddly fixated on multiplicity and plurality rather than like.... *motions to everything that is actually a big deal in my life*

It’s hard to put my thoughts into words, but if I were to explain the most significant parts of having DID, contrary to what some might think, having alters and sharing a body is like... really not a big one. Its just so much of my daily life and just a thing that is and a thing that happens that I’m used to that I just go “Oh yeah huh that’s not normal. I guess so.”

I dunno, I just really don’t see a lot of social media’s fixation on the “multiple people / parts / alters in one body / brain” when it really is just a really tangential fact about my life with DID.

It is also a bit of why I don’t really get the idea of “plural rights” other than just asking for respect. I don’t really think we need “rights”??? I mean, not enough to be sharing the same definition as it has been used historically (women’s rights, rights for people of color, LGBT rights, etc).

It just really confuses me more than anything because I really don’t care or identify much with the concept of being multiple / plural. It is just a thing in my life.

Also this is just my PERSONAL opinion about my relationship with the concept. I understand for others it is a much much more charged topic that means a lot more to them personally and I’m not going to judge it. This is just more so me being confused as someone who really doesn’t see having alters as the most distinct part of having DID (at least internally).

-Riku (Host)