#this is also qp btw

[glitchedcosmos]

Fuck kissing , I need to see two bitches HUG. I need to see them EMBRACE. I want them to hug so tightly and so sweetly , because they never want to separate again, they both fear that when the hug is over, they will never be able to embrace each other again. I want them to throw every emotion they’ve ever felt for each other into that soul cradling hug. I NEED to see them tho blue from the grip, and never, ever let go.

[thief-with-the-teef]

I just hope that when some of you are deriding people for "sexualizing" Asta/rion that you're specifically talking about people who ignore his trauma to objectify him in moments where he's clearly uncomfortable or lacks autonomy. I shouldn't have to explain why shaming people for simply experiencing attraction to a character is not cool, but some of the posts I've seen do kind of seem to be suggesting that if you find him hot at all you're "sexualizing" him inappropriately.

[angeltism]

mwahmwahmwah 🐟🐟🐟 she doesnt need a million qpps bc she has a qpp worth a million wawa :3

WAUUUUGHGHGJ SOBBING I LOVE YOUUU <333 mwwwah mwah mwah <33

[starberry-cupcake]

Things were happening too much. Gideon "Griddle" Nav, Chapter 30

I'm gonna have to split these up because there's so much going on.

previously, in gideon the ninth:

this happened

currently, having finished chapter 34:

well, I am exhausted and I'm just reading this

"gideon can't catch a break" should be the subtitle of this book

we literally can't finish a world-shattering disaster, we're onto the next one

the skeletons can't clean the blood fast enough

so, palmolive has a plan

palmolive's plans are like my cousin playing d&d, he talks as if the plan is bulletproof but then you hear him and it's some looney tunes shit

they work more frequently than not, which is infuriating but also moves things along

I feel like I'm constantly arguing with this guy in my head

palmolive's plan is to use the mind reading thingy harrow leveled up when they won against the first boss to show her mentally how dulcinea's key was so that they can break in that door

there are 2546 things that could go wrong with this, but he says he's super sure

he's not, in fact, super sure, but it works

camilla, my qp wife, has the poker face of the century

they look at the room and find some stuff, pins in a board, necromancer notes, the fact that the skeletons aren't constructs, you know, the usual

oh and that teacher and the other dudes are all super dead

which, we all kinda knew that

the fact that the old man didn't have a heart attack at this point is prove enough he doesn't have a beating heart to begin with

I'm gonna say, I love learning book lore and understanding how things work in said lore, but this book is making me feel terribly dumb

I don't know if it's a language barrier, the fact that Gideon doesn't understand the stuff herself and she's the narrator or what, but I feel so dumb sometimes reading their explanations

the gist of it, I believe, is that they don't know what's powering them to do what they do...or who

they can't really delve into it because a fire alarm goes off

I haven't blamed dulcinea for things yet but you know how I feel about her, they check on her and she's still alive, so she's still a threat in my book

they fix the alarm but they can't really delve into it because the Second has murdered Teacher (he wasn't alive but he kind of was, you know how it is) and ratted them out to the Emperor

but Teacher says "one of them" can't come back, which makes me think this isn't as simple as they think it is

the second is a goner btw

they were a goner the moment they thought they could take on Camilla The Everything, love of my life

but they can't really delve into it because mayonnaise uncle and duracell bunny nephew tell them the third have opened up abigail's body

they can't really delve into that either because palmolive figures out that abigail had a key inside her body and the third have gone through the door it opened

the third is like when you have a dog that's constantly making noise and then, for 10 straight minutes you don't hear them, so you just know they've done something bad

so gideon, harrowbean, palmolive, my qp wife, mayonnaise uncle and duracell bunny nephew all go to confront the third

yandere simulator twin is bloody and cryptic in the middle of the room

I could go on a tangent and talk about the madwoman archetype in victorian literature and how she's a representation of the 'lucia' archetype (no relation to me), dulcinea of the 'ophelia' and maybe regina george twin could be a closeted 'jane'

I'm not going to, though, you're welcome for that

so regina george twin is crying in a corner (gideon is emotionally doing the same, probably) and chad is dead on the ground

get wrecked, asshole

well, he's not dead-dead, nobody in this book is ever dead-dead, this is the hotel california of space

yandere twin has absorbed chad's ghost like piccolo and kami sama in dragon ball (rip akira toriyama)

she says she's figured it all out and the whole test was so a necro would soul-fuse with a cav, one flesh one blood one end one bed, I forgot how the oath went

I don't think she's figured it out because we're not ending this book yet

palmolive also doesn't think so

very important note: there's writing on the wall (literal and metaphorical) again saying "you lied to us" and it's the same writing that was featured before and we still don't know what that's about

so the eighth goes berserk and mayonnaise uncle wants to fight yandere twin for slurping chad's soul

duracell bunny nephew goes like "I'm not sure about this" and that was the moment I knew he was toast

I have already established I feel dumb reading the explanations but, for what I can understand, what the eighth does is that the necro detaches the soul of the cav and makes him astral project elsewhere for a time but there's always a tether to bring him back, if that is broken or he drifts too far he can't come back but other things could go into his body instead, or something like that

which is what happens

I thought that the recent dead had, because gideon says there were six people in him, and we've got 6 dead (protozoa, the unknown corpse, the 2 teens and the bride and groom), but idk

all this happens after yandere twin fights using chad's moves and some magic body jelly

this is body horror territory, there are tongues coming out of orifices that should not have tongues and goo flying all over the place

the eighth is dead at the end of it, yandere twin and her inner chad are gone and regina george twin is crying because she wanted to be the one absorbed, which I guess makes sense considering she was training with swords

you know, I had my suspicions that maybe she wasn't a necro after all, but harrow distracted me when she said she must have been a good one

so now we're down to: gideon, harrowbean, palmolive, my wife, regina george twin, yandere twin w/inner chad and dulcinea my mortal enemy

and whoever it is that's coming in after the second contacted whatever number there was in the space phone tree

also, protozoa was one of the two bodies that were cooked earlier on, we still don't know who the second is

there's more we don't know than what we do know

see you on the next one, if you're not yet tired of me

[qprsmackdown]

Zazie and Felix (starfire) (Real Life) vs Mothman and Bigfoot (Real Life)

Starfire propaganda: wives of all time. their shipname is a banger (starfire !!!!). and most importantly. please 🥺 *deep breath in* HELL-FUCKING-LO HERE'S WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR #STARFIRESWEEP LISTEN UP BITCHES ITS ONE AM AND I HAVE NO COHERENT THOUGHST. HOWEVER. do you love tragic couples. do you love gay rights. do you love transgenderism. do you love fanfiction. VOTE STARFIRE. REASON ONE you need to vote for me and my gf: A VOTE FOR US IS A VOTE FOR TRANSGENDERISM. hello its I your local bigender transgender genderfluid nonbinary xenogender creaturething. i can be your girlfriend and your boyfriend. i have infinite gender swag and its literally transphobic to vote against me (for legal reasons this is a joke) REASON TWO you need to vote for me and my gf: WE ARE T4T AND AROACE4AROACE. we have all the aroace swag and you love us. REASON THREE you should vote for us: BANGER FUCKING SHIPNAME. starfire. literally what could be better. yes thats our shipname. we are starfire. REASON FOUR: because my girlfriend is super duper talented and amazing and pretty and she deserves the literal galaxy and if YOUDONT CLAP AND CHEER AND VOTE FOR US RN IM BLOWING THIS WHOLE POLL UP (again for legal reasons this is a joke) REASON FIVE: TRAGEDY. we roleplayed an entire three-season storyline that STILL IS FUCKING COMING BACK TO HAUNT US and thats how i met my best friends! did YOUR qpr roleplay tragic lesbians only to later become a loving qp couple in a stable and healthy relationship? REASON SIX: *inhales* felix is the sun in my sky, the fire that warms my heart in the darkness. when i fall, xe are there to fly me back up into the clouds. she is a beacon of warmth and kindness, and i cant imagine a life where she isn't by my side. i seduced her once with my writing. i asked her to date me with my writing, and i'll take her to win this poll with my writing #STARFIRESWEEP!!! (we're also kin4kin btw. Vote for me and my girlfriend or I will blow this entire poll up. right fucking meow -🦊)

Mothman and Bigfoot (this has GOT to be a forgetmenauts reference. submitter PLEASE tell me you're a forgetmenauts fan. -🦊) propaganda: gay cryptids in queerplatonic love (my wife and i are gay cryptids in queerplatonic love too 😒 -🦊)

[firebugging]

MUTUAL APPRECIATION POST!!!!!

Hope everyone's year has been good so far, I've wanted to do this for a while, so here's my little ramble!!

I wanted to do as many people as possible but I am a COWARD and just went until I feel like I wrote too much, everything is utc :3

ALRIGHTTTTT, STARTING OFF WITH @eslover. I remember our first interaction the best tbh... (milgram tree, kotorb!!) you're the person that made really want to try and branch out to talk to other people within the milgramblr community (I still get a bit embarrassed though). You're super nice and I'm really grateful that we're mutuals! Truly the McMido acc ever !!

Next up, @tsuwmya! You were my first mutual here and I think you're super cool!! I really admire you, even if I don't interact with you a-lot, your ocgram is SOSO WELL DONE AND ALL THE CHARACTERS ARE SO CHEWYYY (it made me begin work on my own ocgram again actually). Your analysis posts are always such a pleasure to read and there is something about your art that makes me want to eat it like a sandwich /pos

@dearmahiru YOUUU. You're the person that made me like 0610 and MY GOD, DOOMED YURI!! They're one of my favourite ships now hehe. BUT ANYWAYS, ANOTHER PERSON WHO MAKES WONDERFULLY WRITTEN ANALYSIS POSTS, they're always such good reads and you can tell how well researched they are! In my head you're THE Mahiru mutual and I await the Kotoko final girl post!

LINA @linabirb. Uhmm... fun fact, when I initially got into Milgram, your edit blog was the first thing I really checked out in terms of fan work. I believe I was the anon that asked for heart shaped miko icons one time (I loved them btw. I ended up using them for one of my rentry pages WITH CREDIT OFC). You're really friendly and soso approachable 10/10 MUTUAL!!!

@narumimii YOU'RE LIKE A CELEBRITY 2 ME... so cool. I lovelove you edits and will probably spam like them later out of respect because photopea SUCKS and trying to understand it made me admire you for putting up with it's confusingness. Also... yurigram real I LOVE YOUR ART OK BYE

@rainbowghostcat @seariii @heynowisavedyouright and @roseofcards90 I WAS GONNA WRITE STUFF FOR YOU GUYS TOO BUT GOT EMBARRASSED AND DELETED IT I'M SO SORRY </3 BUTTT I THINK YOU'RE ALL SUPER COOL AND I AM SENDING YOU A MILGRAM CHIBI OF YOUR CHOICE...

@art-stuff-by-goose You're one of my irls and also not on milgramblr but you are my qp WIFE so I would like to thank your for putting up with me for all these years! I can be cringefail boyflop girlloser around you without worry and you also introduced SSOOSOOSO many cool games to me YOU WILL BE NUKED!! Overall you are very cool and I am gonna give you one of my silly dinosaurs :3

TO EVERYONE WHO ISN'T ON HERE!! Just know that even if we're not close, I really appreciate you! Everyone who I've interacted with here (no matter how much or how little) has really made my fandom experience so much more enjoyable, this is actually the first time I've really tried to interact with others in the community and it's been soso wonderful thus far. So thank you! I hope that you all have a wonderful 2024!! <3

Also uhmmm, I suck at interacting first so if you'd like to get closer, maybe send an ask? OK THAT'S ALL THIS WAS UHMMMMM VERY UHHHH THIS WAS A POST!!!!!!

[takitori67]

(Long talk)

I'd like to apologize first for being dead silent, unactive, muted and passive. I've come to realize I was and am losing a spark of using multiple medias at once to post my arts (like, being too obsessed with keeping a "comfort zone" that is Facebook). There were some times I forced myself without needing to, and looking back I was being pretty unnatural/awkward in communication...

But thanks everyone so much for liking/reblogging my works. For the past few months I have actually been happy being able to draw Arjuna, putting real efforts, successfully expressing myself well a few times through drawings, sharing works to other people and seeing many others loving him as well. I'm really grateful for the support.

Because of meltdowns thanks to the pressure of personal life, I have also taken a month or two off F/GO. I actually have felt bad because I thought I was losing interest in Arjuna, which I wish not to be the truth. I skipped both Halloween events (sorry Liz) and barely finished Yamataikoku (I was bummed because the raid already ended before I could join in. I'm so in need of QP). I gained back some motivation though and came back for Ryouma and Oryou (successfully rolled one copy, although they almost ruined my savings for Arjuna next year ↓ Also, Okita almost pissed me off for coming 7 times 🙂 I already had her. Girl stop). Now my QP is back to 5mil.

Besides that, I still care for Arjuna but I really wish it was as flaming as how I felt towards him at the beginning of this year. I managed NP3 Arjuna (he always came at the last pull, like he wanted to give me a heart attack). I finished the Fou's footprint for Junao. I bought Fondant Au Chocolat (thank you Helena for that extra copy, which I burnt to have enough Rare Prisms...). I finally had the chance to order and will own a Junao doll (in next year), although it's not official product- but I'll take it nevertheless!

About the Junao doll... I actually made "deals" with my friend who lives in America. The problem with me being unable to have any official merchs is that I don't have an international paying site like Paypal and don't know how to handle overseas fees (tldr: I'm broke af), so in a moment of panic (I thought the order would end very soon), I asked my friend for help and I'll pay her back with my arts. It's... basically commission, but also trading (???). I think I'll probably open another account either on Twitter or Tumblr just to mainly post original and commission works...

Other thing, I have two cats now. My little sister wanted to own kittens and my mom indulged her. I actually don't have good experience with pets in general, but I'll do my best to take care of them. Here are some pictures of them both, the black fur's name is Juni and the greyish fur's name is Charan (My sister named them differently though, but we all don't mind). They are both female btw!

And lastly,

Convenience store-curry tastes awful (I was curious :( ).

[theclosetedskeleton]

also haiiiiii btw,,,i miss you and i love you <3333333333333/gen/qp

HIIII!!!! I Miss you & I love you too ^_^ <3333333/gen/qp

[xexpaguette]

most of my fic recs (find them all on ao3)

tommy is a cat and techno takes care of him

amortal sbi look for the edge of the world (a series)

wilbur makes a deal with a demon technoblade

tommyinnit on hermitcraft

dsmp canon divergence - phil refuses to kill wilbur and sbi leave the greater dsmp

tommy is an arcade cabinet

wilbur and techno are fae and tommy is an idiot village boy

wilbur and techno (and phil) are vampires and tommy is an idiot worker boy

wilbur is adopted and also trans

a long series - tommyinnit in space and meets sbi

EMERALD DUO MY BELOVED. I CRIED EVERY CHAPTER THIS IS SO ANGSTY.

techno is babysitting crimeboys. he's sure that sbi commit crime but he's broke and phil is Rich

Promised Land - ranboo in a catholic orphanage what will he do

this is a superhero au but it's more than that i SWEAR. the characterization is so good please trust me

sbi zombie au crack fluff

BONES IN THE OCEAN!!! emerald duo centric pirate au this is actually so pog i swear read It READ IT!!!

ORPHAN'S PATH!! emerald duo are qp and immortal. MY FAV SERIES OF ALL TIME!!! it takes you a week or two to binge btw but that wont matter bc its so awesome

wilbur, niki, and techno hunt for the elixir of immortality. some sbi too <3

dsmp members in a music conservatory. this one is beautiful and changed my life i love i love

a really good watcher grian au fic

a good sbi mafia au, tommy and tubbo are idiots and wilbur is desperate to keep them safe. hijinks ensue.

emerald duo!! on hiatus but may post soon. language barriers and techno blacksmith and other wonderful things

you've read passerine before idc i still rec it. cry. suffer under the weight of angst.

a good sbi mafia au (darker than the first one)

another tommyinnit in space fic, completely different vibes. it's cute and completed!!

completed series about queer and neurodivergent identities in the foster system, and how some kids slip through the cracks. this one is beautiful, it starts out as a 'phil adopts tommy' fic but it becomes so much more. it was recommended to me by a uquiz lol

wilbur and techno are vigilantes who go on the wrong side of the angel of death

dark sbi - phil loses his children and teams up with techno to get them back

tommy needs a therapist but calls techno by accident instead. very sad

SBI DOMESTIC FOSTER FIC ITS SO CUTE. HYBRIDS TOO. KRISTIN IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!

the tinarose in gay love fic by apollos-boyfriend

sbi timeloop, incomplete and augh.

[ashendalia]

Witness my descent into madness :)

I HAD 330 SQ SAVED BTW

_____

NO

YES

YES MORE

ANOTHER ONE

I NEED MORE QP

I NEED MORE EXP CARDS AND MATERIALS

Not pictured are a Siegfried and Astraea I also summoned

[eliias-bouchard]

hi welcome to a stupid thing me & my qpp wrote bc of the jerma archivist joke. pls enjoy \o/ @tefmiles

[CLICK]

[PRESUMABLY; LONDON, SOMEWHERE ELSE]

JON

(tone implying this conversation has been going on for a while) I know, Martin, but if we can get to the Archives we can stop - everything! Everyone will be fine, and then we can leave, and just go about having a *normal* life.

MARTIN

(patient but exasperated) Love, I'm sure they'll be just fine. We don't know who the Archivist is now. Maybe the Archivist is someone.. (he trails off)

JON

Better at their job?

MARTIN

No, no, just.. someone who'd figure it out sooner.

JON

Right.

[THEY FALL INTO COMFORTABLE SILENCE. THE SOUND OF THEIR FOOTSTEPS ON PAVEMENT IS AUDIBLE.]

JON (CONTD.)

I just, I mean - even if it is just.. how we'd recognise it, we can still attack Jonah, or give them vital information.

MARTIN

(hum of agreement) Well, we're here now, so no point mulling it over anymore. You first.

[A DOOR OPENS. FOR A FEW MINUTES, SILENCE AS THEY WALK DOWN TO THE ARCHIVES.] [ANOTHER DOOR OPENS, PRESUMABLY THE ONE TO THE ARCHIVES.]

TIM

Uh- hey, you- need a visitors pass to be down here?

MARTIN

It's okay, we're just popping in for a minute. Jo- Elias has cleared us to be down here, you might find an email about it? Or he might not have sent it, you know how he is. (small, nervous chuckle)

TIM

(clearly suspicious) ..right.

[YET ANOTHER DOOR, PRESUMABLY THE ONE TO THE ARCHIVST’S OFFICE.]

JON

(confused) Erm.

MARTIN

(confident, but still confused underneath it) Sorry, hi, we're looking for the Head Archivist?

JEREMY “JERMA” ELBERTSON

(seemingly in the middle of something) Well, you- you found me! I-

[HE PAUSES IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS SENTENCE.]

JERMA

Wh- Chat, why are you pogging?? Who are these people? What the hell is "J-Mart"? I- So sorry, they're- they're telling me to ask you about The Panopticon? I don't- I don't know what that is, uh.

[next bit by my qpp!!]

JON (increased confusion) Is that... What is that?

MARTIN (slightly accusatory) Are you streaming your job to Twitch?

JERMA Well it- Being an Archivist doesn't exactly pay the bills. I have to stay fed.

MARTIN Yeah, but- Twitch? You decided to do Twitch as a side-hustle?

[THE TWITCH CHAT IS PANNED OVER TO.]

CHAT POG pogchamp JMART lmao jerma broke BROKE BOY JERM gayboys gayboys BI KING lets goooooooo JMART :MonkaS: SHJDHWISJDIFHKUHDNWK according to all knwo laws of aviation ther HEY JMRA PREGNANT COMP LETS GOOOOOOO ARCHY BOY AND HIS LOVER ARE HERE what if we al im blue dabadeedabadie WOAHSDOFIUHHDSKHDF :omega_LUL:

[USER 4792047294 HAS BEEN BANNED BY GerryKeay_Gaming]

JON (exasperated) Gerry- Gerry Keay is on your livestream? Right now?

[Michael_Distorts WANTS TO SHARE SOMETHING] oh hey jon. youre visiting the archivist. nice. have fun.

JON (CONTD.) (exasperation increased) Mi- Michael Shelley? The Distortion? He’s on your livestream?

JERMA (after a pause of contemplation) Y- Yeah? They're just my mods? I mean sometimes th- they share things but not much more?

[MARTIN'S SANITY IS QUICKLY DRAINING]

& extra bonus bit of content, also by my qpp:

JERMA Alright Chat. I'm gonna raid Gerry since he's my best mod. Bye- Bye Chat!

[SOFT LULLING MUSIC PLAYS AS THE SCREEN SWITCHES TO GerryKeay_Gaming]

[GERRY IS PLAYING ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW HORIZONS. THERE IS A SMALL BIT OF TEXT BENEATH HIS WEBCAM READING “computer broke & now my music won’t work sorry lol”.]

GERRY (with intense fever) FUCK THESE TARANTULAS FUCK THEM I HATE THEM DIE.

[daz4i]

you know those friends you have that you just KNOW you'd make the absolute best couple ever with if circumstances allowed it

[mellinelli]

((me when it’s my turn to reply in a certain small multifandom discord server: *rubs hands together* here we go!

me looking at my drafts here: suddenly i cannot read))

[servafes]

:)

[immeya]

I just hate HATE IT MAKES ME SO FKING FURIOUS seeing people arguing over the whole Yelena being aroace thing.

I get. I fucking get that we need wlw representation. But literally when is anybody ever gonna acknowledge aroace people?

If the comic “confirmation” is not confirmation enough for you im just gonna asume you’re aphobic.

I’m just gonna say: If it was a vague hint at somebody having an allosexual/alloromantic orientation people would just accept it (at least most of them) so please, this is one of the few aroace characters out there and I’m sorry but it just feels wrong to ignore her identity because you wanna ship her.

QP relationships are totally ok, but please stop w your enemies to lovers trope thing… it’s erasure.

Also btw, being aroace is queer and valid and by erasing our identity you’re contributing to the problem :)

(Yes, even if it’s a fictional character)

[ranboo5]

whats 'the clip' and knifetrick?

Augh. Under the cut for shipping discourse and p/dophilia ment (nothing graphic or specific). Gets long bc I discuss my thoughts on DSMP shipping in general. You are setting me up fr anon

Some quick vocab -

intimacy here is used to refer to. Well. Any kind of intimacy between characters, of any sort, as an umbrella term /r, /p, and /qp here are used as shorteners to denote "romantic," "platonic," and "queerplatonic," both as adjectives And as verbs ("to /r" = "to portray romantically") shipping here is used to refer to any focused examination of intimacy between characters

And some clarity that Should follow from the essay next but may not - """anti-antis"""" and RPF writers delete forever

The Clip is from one of if not the? most recent Discord stage(s) Mr Live has done (which I missed when it was live RIP) wherein he issues a hard ban on shipping him ("do not ship me, in any way, with anyone!") which would less influence c!beeduo (which has been portrayed/stated to be romantic AND nonromantic both conflictingly for a while until being confirmed unconfirmed several months ago, that being the last was heard) without its direct invocation if he hadn't also cited for the reason as being underage ("'Cause, one, it's straight up pedophilia") which is! a) immediately applicable to At Least his DSMP character, Partially and b) while not Strictly True (should b obvious that portraying a relationship within the bounds of what it is in canon and in a nonsexual way is not That, and /r-ing c!beeduo etc was possible to do Appropriately again by remaining w/in the bounds of canon) is Clearly Indicative of the fact that baggage-wise it IS associated with people being fucking creeps

This Really complicates things bc like okay the apparent solution is "lol just don't /r it" but it's really like. A Worse issue than that bc like.

Okay the reason shipping in terms of fictional characters is a Different Bar is bc it's an examination of Intimacy and certain lines exist in certain dynamics of intimacy that Isn't Shown (which is the whole Within The Bounds Of Canon thing) which is important in a medium like DSMP because of the smaller gap + more personal relationship b/w character and streamer. Examining intimacy beyond th bounds of the consent that has been established in that regard is Weird at best and Violating And Creepy more often and, As Mentioned In Ranb's Stage, Literally Evil at worst

Which is why writing abt like. QPR or platonically intimate Techno and Philza (characters) is smth that is fine because that's smth that has been shown and repeatedly stated onscreen; it's in the bounds of canon n thus within th bounds of what the streamers've consented 2 be done with their characters. But writing T3chza making out or whatever is fucked up because it's smth that's beyond those consent barriers

And the thing is right

Slapping a /p on T3chza makeout doesn't. Make it less violating

Like what you CALL romantic is not the measure or whether it's past those barriers yk? And if it's indistinguishable, if it's in extrapolative territory that is Past The Bounds, it Does Not Matter how much you /p it EVEN IF IT IS TECHNICALLY PLATONIC y feel? Like at the end of the day placing a moratorium on some/all forms of shipping is placing a moratorium on certain examinings of intimacy

And okay 2 go back to Mr Live and his character. What it implies taken in context w/ older portrayals of c!beeduo and said by invoking smth that both evokes Really fucked up baggage (that does unfortunately exist btw I'm sorry if you didn't know that but People Really Do B Fucked Up Abt Beeduo) AND applies to his character is a revocation of consent to examining deep intimacies:tm: with his character, which is gonna apply regardless of the nature of that intimacy (even if nonromantic)

Like I don't /r c!beeduo myself, do not, never have, but I talk to people who have and have consumed content where they r background /r; I also don't think it matters. Like I don't Actively /r it and I don't Actively Not /r it because imho w/ the intimacy regarding c!beeduo that is plot relevant and character important whether that intimacy is /p /qp or /r doesn't really matter. I don't consider myself Less of a c!beeduo shipper than someone who /rs them because that would be dumb as hell and while none of the content I've made* is Intrinsically or Intentionally /r it certainly can be read tht way as much as it can be read /qp or /p. It's be dumb and hypocritical of me to like, dunk on ppl for /r-ing c!beeduo when I'm also invested in these two and my tonetags r not gonna suddenly Delete the picking apart I've done of the dynamic @ hand

Which Has Been. Within Bounds Of Canon. It's been what's been shown (sometimes to my great distress. There is a reason that the :canon_beeduo: emote looks the way it does) Directly Onscreen and in general keeping with the tone n intensity/directions of what they've Done With The Characters

HOWEVER

As mentioned up there. Revocation of consent

It makes. Full sense 2 me that Mr Live wants to place a moratorium or fullon ban on shipping his characters perhaps where he wouldn't have before because of the Unfortunately Very Extant trends of people being Fucking Weird about shipping his characters AND of using them as a Thinly Veiled Excuse to ship HIM, which. I should not have to explain why shipping real people is fucking abhorrent

THIS creates a problem which is a. Bit of a vacuum in interacting with what is a facet of c!Ranboo's arc, decision making, and character. Like you CAN have c!Ranboo w/o cbeeduo but you Can't Really have his plotline without examining c!beeduo. And as I mentioned earlier: even if your examination of c!beeduo is fully platonic, the significance of it To the plotline means that any examination of it and its relevance to the plotline and characters IS gonna be an examination of intimacy, which. Regardless of it's platonic, Is Still Shipping

Unless some HARD retconning happens it leaves this like. Hole in an aspect of c!Ranboo's arc and decisionmaking and it's very. Uncertain? God. Fucking months ago I was already kind of :huh. Does he know what the fuck he's doing: irt c!beeduo and desperately wishing for things to be cleared up and now it's only That Much Stronger

NOW. KNIFETRICK, FINALLY

Knifetrick (or, as it’s actually listed, Bishop’s Knife Trick) is a fic about "Ran and Jackie from The Pit TFTSMP" in a "canon-typical ambiguously romantic relationship." As you can tell from the scare quotes, especially if you've seen me vague, both of these are, to put it politely, Doubtful. I've read the fic; I will not be sharing my opinions because that would be neither productive nor responsible (I will just say I can't recommend it and leave it at that) but I WILL say the following that Is relevant to the conversation:

Ran's and Jackie's characterizations respectively have very little to do with characterizations from The Pit, and bear a dollar-store-version resemblance to tropes and personality motifs found in ESPECIALLY fanon c!beeduo, especially later in the fic. I would not go so far as to say they are Intentionally Literally Ranboo and Tubbo but they are transparent expies and were clearly written at LEAST unintentionally w/ c!beeduo in mind (esp since. Ran and Jackie barely interacted in The Pit), and for a readerbase that, as far as I can tell, is HUGELY dominated by /r c!beeduo shippers. Like. Sorry. This is off-brand c!beeduo.

The dynamic between the two is pretty unambiguously romantic, also; despite what the fic's white knights claim, romantic tropes and implications/motifs/imagery from at LEAST chapter two, and is very much explicitly romantic by the most recent chapter.

FROM CH1:

"And now, with raised eyebrows and a pursed lip, the newly named General Jackie observes Ran in such a way that makes the enderman’s skin crawl. Ran reminds himself that this kid, as short and harmless as he may look, is trained to kill. [...] Jackie narrows his eyes and tilts his head a little, as if he’s trying to read in between every one of Ran’s imperfect scales."

FROM CH2:

"It makes Ran’s skin itch with discomfort. [...] 'That actually doesn’t explain much of anything at all,' complains Jackie, and he pops a few croutons into his mouth with one hand. 'Tell me what you’re thinking, pretty-boy.'

"Ran feels his face flush, no doubt mildly glowing green.

"Yes, that was the other thing. The unnecessary compliments to his physical appearance.

"They don’t happen very often, and don’t seem to have very much meaning or intention behind them— Jackie often speaks like an unthinking kid— but when they do happen… they’re embarrassing. [...] It’s annoying how the rug is pulled out from under his feet in these moments when he’s 'embarrassed'. Like the conversation see-saw has temporarily shifted weight in the general’s favor."

I am not going to include excerpts from Chapter 6 because it's just the entire chapter.

I WILL SAY, HOWEVER, STEPPING ON THIS SCORPION BEFORE IT STINGS: they are not written in an RPFy manner and I don't think there's any grounds, including Vibes, of accusing Knifetrick of being like. Closet truthing or whatever. Also, while I think there's certainly Some Weirdness ESPECIALLY around the reaction, the romance itself is Not written in any way I'd call weird or problematic pre-clip; it's nothing inappropriate or like Weirdly Fetishy or whatever. Knifetrick is not #problematic or anything and I don't have beef with like the concept of liking it intrinsically; if I thought it was like. Abhorrent I wouldn't be sharing excerpts lmao dhjfnhdsbvdnfjh. Hence: if anyone uses this post or anyth like it to send harassment or bad faith ANYTHING to anyone involved with Knifetrick I will hunt you down in the fucking night even if it WAS #problematic that'd be the LITERAL OPPOSITE of productive and as it stands it's Literally Not. Essentially: Knifetrick is a (questionably-written /mean) fic using Ran and Jackie from The Pit as a vessel for a large chunk of the dynamics and headcanons of fanon /r c!beeduo in particular

And again, I would not call it problematic in any way (aside from the disingenuity of the insistence that it's TOTALLY UNRELATED TO BEEDUO and TOOOTALLY WASN'T INTENDED TO BE ROMANTIC GUYS like own your shit please)... IF it weren't for the advent of The Clip, which is calling in2 question the Entirety of the problem of /r-ing any variant of c!beeduo or any of Ranboo's characters at all

I really do not have an answer for this tbh. I genuinely wanna hear from the streamer on this more specifically because I like,,, I got no clue where 2 go from here? Do I just consider an arc retconned? Was it an issue of speaking abt a troubling subject kneejerk wise and I'm reading too much in2 it?

I just. I dunno

Tl;dr (AT LONG LAST)

- The Clip is a clip of a Discord stage where Ranboo (streamer) loudly explicitly decried shipping in a way that implicitly applies to characters he plays - This would be all well and good but is rendered complicated by the plot relevance of c!beeduo, which does not stop being shipping if it's /p'd due to it still necessarily being an examination of a particular intimacy in a way that is in canon hard to distinguish the /p, /qp, or /r nature of - Bishop's Knife Trick is an AO3 fic centered around using TFTSMP characters as /r c!beeduo expies which is not a bad thing in and of itself unless it also is covered under this moratorium - Things remain unclear until and unless we get clearer word from streamer, but considering Mr Live seems to be allergic to clarifying anything abt c!beeduo this is doubtful

*very little if any of the content I personally have made 4 c!beeduo has been posted publicly, for related reasons. You May have seen it if you're in servers w/ me, depending on Which Ones