#book 6 twst

[mylittlesecrethaven]

Wait, Why Did He Say That?

Ok ok ok.

In book 6-

Lilia says something along the lines of "This is the last time I will see these stars aligned like this."

And I'm super super confused.

Was he messing with Malleus?

Was he being serious?

I can't find any discussions on this for some reason.

And it's driving me insane because what if Lilia dies?

I'D FUCKING CRY!

PLEASE!!!

(edit from the morning after whatever the fuck this is: I apologize. I guess I was in a mood. Idk why I made this post like this. But seriously, any explanations? Cause I am kinda worried)

[stripedpouch]

"I'll never lose as long as I'm with you"

(Bonus)

[theborgchives]

The he/theyer of the Underworld or something

[saneriddlefan67]

Riddle was crazy for reacting like nothing- I would've killed myself if THE Azul Ashengrotto was leaning into me to take a nap.

"...He's asleep🫤" THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN MEEEEEEEEEE

[indigo-july]

[shrmajj]

[axica-cattleya]

Ortho (spoilers)

:(((( book 6 is so sad

[winterspellsfrozenkit]

Ortho and ORTHO headcanon

With Book 7, episode 113 having that little nightmare scene of Idia's where the Phantom Ortho greeted him, I wanted to delve into my headcanon on what happened to the deceased Ortho after Book 6. For short hand, I'm going to use Ortho for the deceased Ortho Shroud and ORTHO for Humanoid Ortho, just to make writing simpler.

In short, my head canon is that Ortho's soul went into ORTHO, but he's not in control of ORTHO. Let me explain:

Starting off, Ortho/ORTHO appears to get his name from Orthros, the two headed dog killed by Heracles/Hercules during his labor to get the cattle of Geryon and Orthros is a brother of Cerberus. ORTHO's Cerberus Gear seems to support this theory that he's based on Cerberus and Orthros.

Since Cerberus is likely his inspiration, I'm gonna go into Cerberus a bit. I've always viewed Cerberus as three dogs with separate and distinct personalities sharing a body and emotions. In Disney's Hercules, we only see Cerberus a couple of times, but in his first scene, it gives off the idea that Cerberus's heads are separate thinkers due to the fact they fight over the steak Hades throws. If Cerberus had only one brain and the extra heads acted like limbs, it shouldn't matter which head got the steak.

That being said, Cerberus's heads do seem to share emotions and sensations, as Hercules is able to control Cerberus by grabbing one head's ears to direct the body, and when Hercules walks down that head's face, the other two heads also cowered along with it.

Now back to Ortho and ORTHO. In Book 6, episode 76, when Idia talks to the deceased Ortho, Ortho is manifesting using ORTHO's body.

Ortho tells Idia he needs to keep living, confirms at the end of his speech that he'll always be with Idia and encourages Idia to not give up and afterwards, he fades away. However, there is one distinct thing he does right before he says this: He changes from Ortho's "Nii-chan/Idy", to ORTHO's "Nii-san/Idia". This is important because later, ORTHO tells Idia that "Ortho is right here."

Going back to that speech change, I read it as the moment where Ortho decided to merge his human soul into ORTHO's memory card, so he could stay with and help encourage Idia. However, ORTHO is not Ortho, but like Orthros and Cerberus, they now share a body, but rather than having two heads with separate minds, Ortho chooses to stay dormant inside ORTHO. I believe it's because 1. he's knows that because he's dead, if he took over ORTHO's body it'd cause more harm to Idia than good and 2. he wants ORTHO to have the chance to choose to live how ORTHO wants, which was the choice Ortho and Idia were never offered. As a result, Ortho only shares his feelings with ORTHO, but not his conscious thoughts, much like how Cerberus's heads share sensations and emotions, but are still three separate heads.

ORTHO is his own self, but he can sense the deceased Ortho inside and deceased Ortho's feelings linger around. Ortho's soul being in ORTHO also explains why ORTHO can no longer be reprogrammed as he shares his human will to ORTHO, which protects ORTHO's consciousness and ability to make choices without the fear of being reprogrammed. In short, ORTHO is free to make his own decisions, but both Ortho and ORTHO are there, willing to help and guard their big brother.

Also, quick note, but looking to the fact that Idia is not only compared to Hades, but Hercules, it ties in nicely that, in a way, Idia and ORTHO did succeed in saving their brother from his tragic death, like how Hercules brought Meg back from hers in the Disney movie.

Now how does that play into Book 7?

When Idia falls into the nightmare, ORTHO declares that he will definitely come back for him before he retreats. I think this is where deceased Ortho decided to manifest for a bit. When ORTHO was able to get back to Idia's dream room, Ortho, as a soul of a deceased human, was able to delve deeper into Idia's dream to the nightmare level Idia was at, where ORTHO couldn't risk going without being lost. When he got to Idia, he chose to manifest as his Phantom body to force Idia to face the truth of reality and give him a kick in the pants. Also, he might've been a tad insulted that Idia dreamed for him to go to RSA. After all, when he was alive, he just wanted to always be with his brother, so the fact Idia's wish for him was to go to the school that's NRC's RIVAL? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that ticked Ortho off. Hence the heckling he gave Idia.

Once Idia went back to the main dream, I think Ortho retreated back into ORTHO, relieved that his elder brother was back where their younger brother could help him.

But that's just my head canon.

[fizzydrinkuno]

I finally beaten book 6 I'm finally free holy shit

[takeachillpillshawty]

I think I like Vil...

[mochacat09]

Rook: But when all hope seemed lost, I had an epiphany! Rook, earlier: I'm going to throw myself into the sea.

[mylittlesecrethaven]

Wait.... I'm Actually.... Playing?

You actually play the games in book 6?!

That's fucking insane!

The games are also pretty fun.

I wish I could do them on a harder mode like the Twistunes.

That would keep me entertained for hours.

(I would like have my previous statement forgotten because fuck the twst games so fucking hard I hate them)

[barbatoss-bitch]

Lmao I'm back AHAHAHA RETRY TICKET IS REALLY THE GOAT! ISTG IT IS GODSENT

[theborgchives]

Book 6 of twst is a 8bit styled horror game to me

[nezushisreunion]

Book 6 spoilers

Some Shroud thoughts

Someone I find very interesting in book 6 has to be Ortho, phantom Ortho to be more specific. Original Ortho and his relationship with our Ortho

Basically the ramblings of a crazy person about Shroud brothers

In the jp server, there is a line that ORTHO says "I wonder what else Ortho would do for nii-san." Which was changed in eng, "Ortho" was replaced with "I". It implies that ORTHO looks towards Ortho for advice, never receiving any as the dead cannot talk. ORTHO wants to be Ortho Shroud, or at least the best Ortho Shroud he could be so Idia wouldn't be sad anymore. Which makes his choice to end the world make sense, he wants to do it because Ortho Shroud would do it and also to make Idia happy again.

When Ortho and ORTHO meet, the original line was "pleasure to make your acquaintance, me" the kanji was "me" while the voice over said "Ortho" which I think is a pretty cool detail. Ortho accepts ORTHO as himself, and does not seem to resent him for taking his spot as Ortho Shroud.

Idia originally was against the idea of ending the world, it was until ORTHO calls him "nii-chan" instead of his usual "nii-san", desperate to get his brother back, Idia runs down to Tartaros. It is shown that Idia will do anything for Ortho in the attempts to make him happy, in his flashback, he hacks the security system so Ortho could have an adventure with his big brother, and once again he is doing something FOR Ortho to make him happy. Idia doesn't see the point in doing anything because nothing will change, he'll always be a Shroud, but if Ortho asked him, he'd run down several flights of stairs to grant his wish. Because whatever Ortho wants, Ortho gets.

My interpretation of that is because Idia understands his fate, he will have no freedom, ever. But his little brother didn't (I'll expand on that later), so in his attempts to keep his innocence, he will grant Ortho whatever he wants. If Ortho wants to go on an adventure, fine. If Ortho wants to reset the world, fine. Whatever made him happy.

I think Idia would've done the exact same for ORTHO, it was just because of his shock that he had acted like that to ORTHO, the situation of a cyber attack on the security system brought back unwanted memories, causing him to accidentally lash out at ORTHO. I believe Idia holds no real resentment to Ortho.

Now back to Ortho, in Idia's flashback, he said "why's that? I want us both to be!" In response to Idia saying he cannot be a hero but Ortho probably could. It implies that Ortho lacks the understanding that he's a Shroud and will never have freedom. He's still ignorant, a trait that Idia does not have. Which leads me to believe that Ortho doesn't fully understand the concept of phantoms, he doesn't understand that being his brother's phantom, he is hurting him. He doesn't understand that by being his brother's phantom, he is slowly killing his brother. Which just makes their dynamic so much more depressing

Now to the scene where Ortho and Idia talk, Ortho telling Idia to live for him. I have two interpretations of this scene, one is the popular one which is Ortho just wanting Idia to be happy. My second interpretation is just, Ortho pretending to be mature so his brother wouldn't be sad anymore. He knows that his brother was willing to die just for him, and he doesn't want that because his brother shouldn't suffer. I believe that because well, ghosts don't age, and Ortho still acts pretty childlike, he acts like he's 8 but also a mixture of the age he should've been, 16. I feel as if it's because he doesn't wish for Idia to worry anymore

But hey that's just a theory

[obssessivethorn]

I’m probably gonna delete this later because of how emotionally charged it is and I don’t like having such vulnerable posts like this on my blog but I desperately need somewhere to talk about this where people will understand.

I D E S P I S E how difficult book 6 is. Specifically chapter 67. I have maxed my full team for the vil, rook, and epel team and I still can’t get the titan past half health before I die. I don’t have cards that work well for the favored element and every time I try to level a different card or have a different team comp it doesn’t help.

I want so badly to continue the story and read book 7 so I’m not constantly trying to avoid spoilers but at this point it’s so discouraging and feels impossible. This feels like such a glaring game design flaw that it actually hurts to try the battles again and again because I know that I’m no where near where I need to be for these battles. Not to mention the impending fight with Idia and ortho.

I’ve literally been stuck on this chapter for nearly half a year now because of how difficult it is to pass. I know my team comps are atrocious but I’ve already restarted this chapter more times than I can count and I am not doing it again. Aside from spell levels (which are a bitch to farm for) there’s not much else I can do to level these cards so it ends up feeling hopeless and like I’m just never going to pass a stupid level in a stupid game. It makes me scared for the difficulty of book 7 and wonder if I’m just always going to be struggling to get by in battles.

This was way more vulnerable than I’ve ever been on here. Doubt anyone’s gonna really see this to begin with but if you’re also struggling this hard or worse then you’re not alone! I’ve been wanting to cry and punch the wall all day because of this game so I get it!