#convo: jeff

[anyfire]

some of u really heard taissa tell MISTY that it's shauna's fault that natalie died and instead of looking inward and wondering if maybe yr being spoonfed a theme about the role shauna takes in other characters lives instead u went EXACTLY! .... None of u are serious people

[slitmouth]

mor liu and jeff ... paws ... paws ...... (if and when u feel like it)

CW implied sh

she was always stubborn

Liu tried really hard to pay attention to him to try and make up for their parents, Jeff always found it performative

this looks like balls but whatevs. Jeff is 16 and Liu is 18 here I think. Liu looks older than I meant him to be

[monstersinthecosmos]

i have to practice drawing bc all i think about lately is drawing little comics about marius & mael being in various curb your enthusiasm situations

[strawberri-draws]

My little brother thought Jets name was Jeff; we have watched this show multiple times help me I can’t escape this cursed assumption…. Jeff…….

[natdocx]

This show cannot be real 😭

[voparwave69]

Sweet Ling warned me man i need to always listen to SweetLing

[undescribed1mage]

the community writers had to have known how queer coded their characters were. right. right

[cowboyshit]

every time I see jeff jarrett I think about the time I went to holiday dinner with the owner of that lucha company I sometimes help out and somehow jeff got brought up in our convo (I think because he’d been recently signed with aew or something??) and the owner goes “oh shit jeff! I just remembered I forgot to text him back earlier” and pulled out his phone to text him and started having a convo with him while also telling me what they were talking about in live time and I was like…… this is surreal

[carolinemp3]

how do we feel abt transfem britta.. she feels so transfem coded . to me.

with the whole thing abt her not experiencing girl stuff before college (specifically going off the ep where she has to learn how to behave in the girls bathroom i.e. providing support to other women) and then im watching the episode where shes nominated for the "tranny queen" (at the tranny dance 💀💀💀) and it just like... Lines Up... 🤔🤔🤔

YES TRANSFEM BRITTA IS SO REAL! also i see jeffbritta as aro4aro t4t personally 😌

[fyeahdprian]

Billboard Crossover Convo DPR IAN |

Billboard - DPR IAN'S Journey From B-Boy to K-Pop to The Billboard 200

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February 23, 2025 8:15pm ET

[vinbitism]

ftm or mtf vinnie depends on the day. mostly ftm bc I project. if anything he fits more into the nonbinary label bc he'd rather you not refer to him at all

transfem Lee bc they give me that energy

mtf Steph bc she's awesome like that

gender non-conforming Patrick. I don't think gender exists to him, I could see him wearing a long skirt or a dress even just cuz he wants to. he doesn't care. It doesn't matter

Ftm mo bc idk. big strong guy can be trans if he wants.

he/she/they Kevin

Hey. Slenderverse people. What are your favorite trans headcanons. Any kind. I'm super curious as the Transfem Shaun Guy

[tryingtofindava]

creeps with a goth gf

𝐂𝐫𝐞𝐞𝐩𝐬 𝐰 𝐚 𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐡! 𝐆𝐅*ೃ༄

lolz didn’t know what specific creeps u wanted so imma just choose who!! ^_^ ALSO THE READER IS A TRAD GOTH!!

(INCLUDES: Jeff the Killer, Ticci Toby, Jane the Killer, Nina the Killer, Kate the Chaser, Clockwork.)

: ̗̀➛Back to Source

╰┈➤ 𝐉𝐞𝐟𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐫

Has at least nearly roundhouse kicked you bcs he thought u were Jane on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS… (he’ll say he’s sorry in the most dull non apologetic way ever and probs doesn’t mean it.)

“My bad, I guess.”

He doesn’t care abt aesthetic that much I believe, as long as he finds you hot lolz.

Though when he’s out killing people and he sees something that catches his eye that he’d class ‘gothy as fuck’ he’d snatch it for you… so that’s sweet ig.

He deadass brought you a dead bat once…

╰┈➤ 𝐓𝐢𝐜𝐜𝐢 𝐓𝐨𝐛𝐲

HE LOVES U AND UR AESTHETIC SM

Midwest emo x trad goth, what a combo :3

His first words to you ever was that you looked like you crawled out a Tim Burton movie (he was tryna impress u with his film knowledge).

Type of guy to ask to make a shared Spotify playlist and try and learn all of the songs you like and force himself to learn the lyrics for you.

Bro will jump you just to get a hug, and when he finally pulls away you’ll just see the black imprints of your makeup on his white tee.

BEGS YOU TO GO THRIFTING TOGETHER TO FIND COOL THINGS TO WEAR FOR EACHOTHER!!

“T-this would luh-look so cool o-on you!!”

��┈➤ 𝐉𝐚𝐧𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐫

TWINNING!! :D

She’s a trad goth too lmao.

You two definitely share clothes, no matter what it may be. Corsets, dresses, boots, gloves. Anything in the closet really you two own together :)

ALSO she WILL help you doing your makeup, not because you need the help just because she likes to practice so she doesn’t get rusty. (She mostly wears her mask so she doesn’t rlly do a whole lotta makeup besides lashes and lipstick)

Like Toby will take you thrifting (without the breaking in part).

╰┈➤ 𝐍𝐢𝐧𝐚 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐫

She thinks your so so so super duper awesome sauce.

She’s a scene girly, so she LOVES the fact that your twos aesthetics are so different and unique from eachother.

Also likes helping to do your makeup, because she just wants to be able to do trad makeup to impress you.

WILL ASLO TAKE YOU TO THE THRIFT SHOP. (these guys like thrift shops okay)

Would love if you guys swapped wardrobes for a day.

“BABE, PRETTY PLEASE??? JUST FOR TWO MINUTES!! I’LL GIVE ‘EM BACK!!”

And you’ve deffo caught her in your clothes MULTIPLE times :3

╰┈➤ 𝐊𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐬𝐞𝐫

She doesn’t care all that much what you’re aesthetic is lolz.

She just wants someone in her life to love and to love her back.

But she does compliment your look nervously when the convo gets a lil too quiet.

Though you do catch her staring at you lovingly while doing your makeup .

She may bring you back little things that caught her eye that reminds her of you, that being anything rlly. BUT ESPECIALLY CLOTHING.

╰┈➤ 𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐜𝐤𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤

She will compliment you every chance she gets. Mostly calling you hot and sexy.

SHE’S GOT THE HUMOUR OF A 12 YEAR OLD BOY WHO HASN’T HIT PUBERTY!! (And you love it and hate it at the exact same time.)

Like I mean she makes goth mommy jokes ALL THE TIME… there’s no stopping her. She cackles so hard afterwards after u scold her for it too.

“I love my big tiddy goth girlfriend<3”

“Nat, I swear to fuck-“

[harrywavycurly]

I just read the bumble story and I love how reader talks to Harry and the “we listen and we don’t judge” thing about his hands😂 I can see her saying that to him all the time and maybe he even says it to her a few times as well!

Hiii babes!!! Awe thank you for reading the Bumble Fumble!! I loved writing their dialogue, it was so fun because she just says exactly what’s on her mind and you know Harry was probably thinking “what does that even mean?” when she said that to him the first time!! But this made me think of some random convos they’d have where you use that phrase so I hope you enjoy!!💖

You can find the Almost Bumble Fumble: here✨

*these are just conversations so it’s pure dialogue*

Summary: You teach Harry how to properly use “we listen and we don’t judge” ✨

“I lied to Jeff and told him I had an appointment this morning so I could get off the phone with him because I didn’t want to listen to him tell me about his weekend because I knew it was going to be a bit boring and I wanted to make sure I had your coffee ready by the time you got here and I can’t fake being interested in what he’s saying and making coffee at the same time.” “We listen and we don’t judge. But thank you for putting my coffee so high on your list of priorities.” “Well I just know how you get without it.” “Kinda the same way you get when you can’t journal for ten minutes every evening before bed.” “Exactly.”

“Wait you said what to her?” “Harry you’re supposed to listen and not judge…and that face you’re making is telling me you’re totally judging right now.” “What? No love I’m not judging I’m-I’m listening. Continue please.” “Right well I told her that her dress wasn’t very cute because I just couldn’t let her walk out of the house not looking her best so she got mad and broke my favorite pair of sunglasses so I cut the straps off all her purses.” “Jesus remind me to never upset you.” “I was in high school Harry it was just normal teenage angst that’s all.” “Well uhm we listen and we don’t judge.” “Too late Styles…you already judged but nice try.”

“Niall told me he’s reading fifty shades of gray but told from Christian’s point of view. I didn’t even know that was a thing?” “We listen and we don’t judge. It’s good. I mean as good as fifty shades can be..” It’s good? I didn’t-wait you’ve read it?” “Harry…” “Sorry sorry. We listen and we don’t judge.”

“I cry every time I watch Taken because-” “We listen and we don’t judge. You can cry at any movie you want sweetheart it’s fine.” “Oh my god.” “What? Why are you looking at me like that?” “You really meant it! I didn’t feel any judgement from you at all!” “Crying is cool so of course I’m not going to judge you for it.” “I feel like a proud mom right now this is great.” “Glad I could make you proud but I don’t know…m’not really into the mommy thing.” “We listen and we don’t judge so that’s fine you don’t have to be into the mommy thing.” “Oh that was good…you’re quick.”

[sharp-silver4795]

Creepypasta Height/Weight

Not all heights/weights are listed here!!!

Since some of these “creepypastas” (not all of them are actually creepypastas) are based on real people, I will not share their weight. I’m doing this partly because I don’t want anyone to be a bitch about people irl. The other part is because I just think it’s “rude(?)” to share other people’s weight.

Some of them don’t have height/weights listed because they are a very developed character and I want to base it on accurate information.

Others of these say “no record available.” I’m doing these for the ones that are more mysterious cuz haha funny.

Scarecrow: 160cm (5’3”), 37kg (81lbs)

Judge Angels: 158cm (5’2”), 48kg (105lbs)

Bloody Angel: 172cm (5’7”), 62kg (136lbs)

ChessMaster: 190cm (6’2”), 29kg (64lbs)

Ani the Wight: 127cm (4’2”), 87kg (191lbs)

Bloody Painter: 175cm (5’9”), 58kg (127lbs)

Zero: 189cm (6’2”), 62kg (136lbs)

Dark Link: 119cm (3’10”), 0kg

Doll Maker: 170cm (5’7”), 52kg (115lbs)

Candy Cane: 190cm (6’2”), 23kg (51lbs)

Kagekao: 175cm (5’9”), 53kg (117lbs)

Rouge Proxy: 163cm (5’4”), 68kg (150lbs)

Zechariah: no record available

Wilson the Basher: uhhhh, hmmmm

Kate the Chaser: 162cm (5’4”), 49kg (108lbs)

Kat Hunter: 178cm (5’10”), 56kg (123lbs)

Neon Spike: No record available

X-Virus: 177cm (5’10”), 63kg (139lbs)

Ticci Toby: 182cm (6’0), Unknown lol

Masky: 170cm (5’7”), nope

Hoodie: Unknown lmao, nope

Jane the Killer: 180cm (5’10”), 84kg (185lbs)

Jeff the Killer: 172cm (5’8”), 90kg (198lbs)

Nina the Killer: 152cm (4’11”), 41kg (90lbs)

Liu Woods: 198cm (6’6”), 106kg (234lbs)

Nathan the Nobody: no record available

Puppeteer: 214cm (7’0), 0kg (0lbs)

Clockwork: 184cm (6’0”), uhhhh

BEN Drowned: 119cm (3’10”), 0kg (0lbs)

Laughing Jack: 218cm (7’2”), 42kg (93lbs)

Candy Pop: 180cm (5’10”), 7kg (15lbs)

Jason the Toymaker: 190cm (6’2”), 56kg (124lbs)

Laughing Jill: 215cm (7’0”), 39kg (86lbs)

Lost Silver: 132cm (4’4”), 0kg (0lbs)

Eyeless Jack: 203cm (6’8”), 156kg (344lbs)

Just a reminder in this convo:

Whether you’re ripped, toned, stout, scrawny or chubby; if you’re a stick figure or a fucking Chad; if you have extreme, uneven, even, or subtle body proportions; if you’re afab, amab or intersex; if you’re short or tall or average- none of that matters because you are all beautiful!!

Divider Creds: Sister Lucifer ; adornedwithlight

Header Creds: MEEE!!!

[merrinla]

A few more former lines from Rook. This time convo with Lucanis before battle with Ghilan'nain. These are voiced only by Erika Ishii and Jeff Berg. Maybe Bryony Corrigan and Alex Jordan weren't involved in the project at the time.

Lucanis: Rook, this isn't going to work. Rook: We don't know that until we try. Lucanis: They moved the moon. We're in over our heads. That's not magic you can fight with a blade! Rook: Okay, yeah. I don't know exactly what I'm doing. But we've got to try, right? Rook: Kill them all and hope it works out. All we can do is roll the dice. Lucanis: You do like to walk close to the edge. Rook: You should know by now that I do that all the time. Rook: It's not every blighted creature. Just the two really. (pretty similar in game) Lucanis: The most dangerous two. Rook: Right. We get those and it's practically a vacation afterward. Lucanis: What would I do without you? Rook: You don't have to find out.

[whenmemorydies]

The restaurant could be good.

Why did Syd call herself an accomplice in 3x05 Children?

I was re-reading @yannaryartside's fantastic meta about this (and you should too) and it got me thinking. In their meta, OP asks:

Is Syd (or her leaving) supposed to be a wake-up call to Carmy? That he fucked up something that brought him genuine joy and connection because Syd knew the real him, while Claire liked Logan and Carmy's brokenness? The way Claire would enable him in his bad tendencies? How is he gonna realize all that?

Honestly, I don't know what these writers have planned for how Carmy comes to the realisation that season 3 Carmy is not it lol. But I have one suspicion about how it might go, and it has less to do with Carmy and more to do with Syd.

We have to go back to season 1 where it all started. Where Sydney met Carmy and articulated within the first three episodes of the show, her hopes for her future and the future of The Beef.

Recall 1x02 Hands and the convo between her and Richie in Richie's car:

Sydney: You know the restaurant could be good. Like I know you know that. Like it doesn't have to be a place where the food is shitty, and where everybody acts shitty and feels shitty. Like it could be a good legit spot.

Cut to season 3, after Syd and Carmy have overhauled the restaurant and everyone is...well...acting shitty, feeling shitty and the food is looking like a damn mess:

Also recall the alley chat in 1x03 Brigade:

Sydney: You know, I think this place could be so different from all the other places we've been at. But in order for that to be true, we need to run things different.

Then cut to season 3 where we have EC Carmy decidedly not running things different at The Bear. Instead, he repeats toxic communication and management styles from his past:

Recall 1x05 Sheridan and Sydney's vulnerability with Carmy about why she started her catering business, Sheridan Road, after leaving the restaurant scene:

Sydney: Like it was the first time I didn't have a complete and utter psychopath behind me screaming, and pushing and yelling, and I thought I wanted that, you know?

Cut to season 3 and, well, you know the drill: behold our fav Executive Jeff acting like an utter psychopath and partaking in some screaming, pushing and yelling.

So what happened in season 3? Why have things gone in almost the exact opposite direction of what Sydney hoped for in season 1?

To my mind, the answer to that question lies in season 2 and what both Syd and Carmy were doing during that season. Yes, Syd spent most of season 2 setting up the restaurant alone while Carmy played hooky with Claire. But what was more striking to me was the contrast in effort that both of them put into actually doing things different at the restaurant (as per their pledge to each other during the alley chat of 1x03 Brigade).

Breaking cycles

I agree with @yannaryartside: Carmy playing hooky with Claire in season 2 was him numbing himself (i.e. Claire is the drug that he was addicted to for this purpose). I also reckon he was using Claire as another way to keep Mikey in his life - a reverse-engineered haunt - particularly while the most obvious physical manifestation of Mikey in the present day (The Beef itself) was being transformed into something else entirely. That kind of change - that kind of loss - couldn't have been easy for Carmy, particularly as The Bear was something he had wanted to open with this brother in the first place. I get why Carmy would "self-medicate" with Claire to try and numb some of the pain he may have felt, I really do.

But while Carmy was spending so much of his time either avoiding or dulling his pain, it meant he had little time or energy for working through these things. We know that he has been making attempts at this particularly in relation to his familial trauma and grief (as evidenced by his attendance at Al-Anon meetings). But throughout seasons 1-3 we see almost no work on Carmy's part to address the abuse and trauma that he's experienced in professional kitchens. We do not see him trying to prepare himself for the task of leading an entire restaurant. The first and only time we see Carmy start this process is in the last episode of season 3, when he bravely confronts Chef David Fields at the funeral dinner for Ever.

Now admittedly, Sydney does not have the history of familial abuse that Carmy does. But as discussed above, she does share a history of professional abuse in the restaurant industry with him. Its why the two of them make that promise to each other to do things different in 1x03 Brigrade.

To this end, Sydney spends almost all of season 2 working to enhance her leadership skills to make herself better for the staff she'll be leading as CDC of The Bear. Recall her book, Leading with the Heart by Mike Krzyzewski (Chicago-born, Polish-American and hugely successful former basketball coach of the Duke University Blue Devils and the American national basketball team), gifted to her by her father, Emmanuel:

In the beginning of 2x07 Forks, we follow Sydney as she surveys The Bear during renovations and while she works on a menu idea. This opening sequence features the following narration from an interview with Krzyzewski (which reiterates the show's ongoing message that none of us are alone, particularly when we take the time to listen to one another):

The other thing is that you're not gonna get there alone. You know, be on a team. You know, surround yourself with good people and learn how to listen.

You're not gonna learn with you just talking.

And when you do talk, converse. Don't make excuses. Figure out the solution. And you don't have to figure it out yourself.

I always wanted to be part of a team and obviously I wanted to lead that team. You know, [...] what an interesting life it is to be a leader.

The advice Coach K gives in the above monologue is also mirrored in Marcus' eulogy for his mother where he spoke about the importance of listening. It's also gold advice for how to be consistent in relationship to others. I've spoken here about the themes of chaos and consistency on this show and how one of Carmy's battles is understanding that,

[C]onsistency in terms of a product (e.g. a clean kitchen every night or immaculately plated dishes each service) and consistency in terms of relationships are two different things. You can strive for consistent products but destroy all your relationships in the pursuit of them. Conversely, if you strive for consistency in your relationships, you may not always make consistent products (and quite frankly, that's OK - is a perfectly plated agnolotti dish worth Carmy's relationship with Tina? Is driving Syd to a panic attack worth Carmy's pursuit of a star? I think not on both counts).

Sydney took the time throughout season 2 to learn how to be consistent and effective as a leader. She knew - and knows - that simply being an excellent chef is not going to cut it when it comes to running a restaurant and leading a team. This took time and effort on her part but she was committed to making The Bear different to all the other places she'd been at, so she did it. I should also note that Syd did this internal work while menu-planning and trying to push herself culinarily. She was doing so much lifting. Jealousy of Claire aside, I am surprised Syd didn't rip Carmy a new one when he talked about rejigging the menu while at his girl-who's-a-friend's house lmao.

Cut to season 3 though, and Syd is running The Bear with Carmy who has spent the entire season not having put in the work to change the chemistry in their restaurant. Of course Syd tries to counter this as best she can. She runs interference with the team and gently tries to steer the ship. But as she says in 3x09 Apologies, things have been off at The Bear.

So when Syd tells us in 3x05 Children that she's an accomplice, I can't help but feel that in her heart, Sydney believes she's an accomplice in the betrayal of their vision - Sydney and Carmy's shared vision for The Bear - from season 1. The vision she worked so hard during season 2 to bring to fruition.

By season 3, they've betrayed it and each other: family style is no where to be found and The Bear looks and feels like all the other places Syd and Carmy have been at. While exhausting for Carmy ("I'm so fucking sick of this"), this would have been devastating for Syd, given all she's done to try and avoid this outcome. You can understand why she'd consider an offer like Shapiro's (though we know she's not going to take it).

Given the events of 3x10, where Carmy confronts Chef David and has that heart-to-heart with Chef Terry, its clear his perspective on Michelin mode is starting to shift. I think the threat of losing Sydney will scare the shit out of him too. But what I think will prompt Carmy to actually change his behaviour in season 4 is the realisation that he too is an accomplice and has betrayed not just himself but Sydney and their team as well. Season 4 will necessarily need to be told, at least in part, from Syd's perspective so that the impact of this on Syd is made clear to the audience (Storer and Calo, are you listening? Its me, a desperate fan). And once Carmy recognises his role in continuing the traumatic professional legacy championed by Chef Fields, he can get into working through and breaking that cycle. I'll be seated and ready for it.