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#criticize barbie it has to be
thissmycomingofage · 8 months
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the response to Oppenheimer was good but Barbie's bad because of white feminism as if Oppenheimer wasn't humanizing the man who was responsible for the creation of the atomic bomb. Responsible for so much suffering. As if some of the people behind the Oppenheimer movie aren't also openly endorsing the Palestinian genocide.
Imagine if someone made a movie like that about Osama Bin Laden and told Americans it was ok because he was a complex human. Suddenly it would be evil to humanize someone like that.
I like Barbie. I don't think it's the pinnacle of feminism but I don't think it has to be and I hate the people who use that as an excuse to put it down (especially in comparison to movies like Oppenheimer).
I literally had to deal with people using lily gladstone's nom to rejoice about margot robbie's snub and praising "give it back to the indians" Oppenheimer in the same breath.
And the worst part is that some of those people are nothing but cinema lovers who get too easily blinded by the famous artsy director's name on the poster.
Because Oppenheimer is ✨️art✨️ and is ✨️complex✨️ while Barbie is popular and fun so suddenly all its flaws are highlighted because it lacks the cinematic pretentiousness of other nominees that also have so much issues with their message
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ariadne-mouse · 10 months
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I imagine Essek had one or two record scratch moments in his youth
Such as, alternately,
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bipidin · 1 year
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The Barbie movie hits you in waves
A lot of us have been that girl who comes to hate Barbie, and like America there comes a point where you see the faults but love the idea of Barbie and what she can be but also despair because no it's not that easy its a dream Barbieland is a dreamland and is it not enough to just be nothing more than ordinary because sometimes thats enough.
But sometimes it isn't. Sometimes that isn't enough and the world is set up to hold you back and Barbieland is a dreamland like you childhood but as soon as you hit adulthood that dreamland falls apart and it hurts like hell. Change hurts like hell and its devestating fighting for what is right and the Kens deserve better just like women deserve better and that happens slowly and that is frustrating and its not a happy ending but its not a sad ending because life isn't fully sad or happy and it doesn't end because there will always be another little girl
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bitchin-tubs · 10 months
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Thinking about this comment someone, has “stolitz brainrot” in bio, left on my stolitz critical post and the fact that one of their top posts is this photo set reblog
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The jokes write themselves…
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ct-multifandom · 1 year
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I don’t usually make posts like this, but I’ve been seeing a lot of anti-intellectual junk lately, and I really think we need to put the word “pretentious” up on a shelf until people learn what it actually means.
It doesn’t describe someone who likes artsy-fartsy deep meaning media. People who are pretentious are fake. They’re posers trying to be sophisticated and unique, not like other girls. They pretend to only like stuff they think will make them sound cool when they talk about it. They want to act like they know something you don’t, and they want attention for it.
By definition, if you genuinely enjoy something, you can’t be pretentious. If it resonates with you, and you analyze it, and you don’t care what people think, that’s the polar opposite, actually. If you love obscure experimental prog music, if you watch underground high concept indie films through English teacher eyes, if you spend hours in a modern art museum reading each piece as a vessel for storytelling, if your backpack’s full of poetry books that inspire you, if you play underrated games that were someone’s passion project, if you have an interest in studying the classics or the masters, you are not pretentious.
Of course, some people just don’t like some stuff, and that’s fine, but that’s not what this is about. Don’t let anti-intellectuals shame you for enjoying things just because your interests are inaccessible to them, because they refuse to be brave and put effort into critical thinking. You’re not stuck up for refusing to overlook the craft of artists.
#anti intellectualism#media#movies#books#music#critical thinking#my friend who primarily listens to one very popular band once said that people who listen to obscure music are annoying and pretentious#which rubbed me the wrong way because 1 she knows that I listen to obscure music and 2 it’s such a cowardly consumerist take. anyone can#make music and hey a lot of the people who do make GOOD music. and this goes for all *obscure* media#this post was mostly inspired by people talking about Barbie and those anti pick me girls like the pick nobody girls who insist thinking is#for boys and having fun with an empty brain is for girls. Greta gerwig is an artist. I haven’t seen the movie yet but I know it has a deeper#message than haha cute pink! I’ve seen the summaries about the true meaning. the pinkness and popularity doesn’t negate the narritive.#though in the notes I saw a lot of tumblristas comunistas shitting on the film for being one big ad that people *fell for* which tbh is#tbh almost as anti-intellectual. don’t get me wrong they milked this film to sell hella shit but I don’t believe kids who play with dolls#are the target audience as these people claim. Barbie is a culturally iconic symbol almost archetypical of societal expectations for women#you say barbie people think unblinking perfect plastic pink girly. reminds me of the poem The Last Mojave Indian Barbie. yeah yeah you all#hate brands but this one carries undeniable significance and makes for a powerful literary device. it’s been used many times before#sorry for writing a tag essay about a film I haven’t even seen but I’m tired of internet people focusing so much on proving others wrong#that they end up oversimplifying everything just as much as the other person. god I saw people doing this to Nimona saying transphobes were#looking too deep into her character and they’re reactionary clowns for making that jump. like for once the transphobes are right. she is#trans. it’s a queer story. and irl the first people who notice queerness are the bigots who can tell you’re different. sick owns telling#them the story’s not that deep is harmful and it’s like they’re ignoring the real message on purpose. okay enough rambling hehe! thanks#barbie#nimona
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bookshelfdreams · 1 year
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#just saw that tweet abt pink days on the set of the barbie movie & i think it made me realize why it - the marketing etc - annoys me so#'margot robbie went around collecting fines and donated them to charity haha' okay. look.#that's just the perfect metaphor for how it worked for us - me - anyone who wants to align themselves with me - when we were girls#isn't it#because you grow up and you desperately want to fit in with the other girls but you don't & you don't know why#but you're surrounded by things and people telling you what a normal girl is like & little-to-none of it is things you find appealing or#interesting. makeup and fashion and skin care. gymnastics and romance. you're told that you are obligated to be pretty#but prettiness has never been part of your perception of yourself. femininity is an arcane concept#an exclusive club that will never grant you entrance#& the only comfort you can give yourself is deciding that it's dumb anyway. shallow. vain. who cares about looks and boys and all of that#idiots that's who#but this is Doing It Wrong too isn't it? because now everyone who has taught you that you will forever fail at femininity turns around#& tells you that's patriarchal oppression and YOU'RE the bad one by distancing yourself from something that always made you feel defective#'YOU may have never lived up to this impossible standard of perfection but some ppl do and actually it's fine to be like that!#hyperfeminine traditionally beautiful women are the most oppressed group of all & finally we will stand up for our rights!'#'girls can be pretty AND conpetent' but that's not what they're actually saying. isn't it.#because performing femininity correctly is the prerequisite. a threshold you can never cross and you know that. & that's fine#but somehow that's wrong too because you're not supposed to make peace w that are you. you're SUPPOSED to want to do it right#even if you don't and never have and never will#and once again everyone is yelling at you that this club isn't meant for you. if you criticize the barbie movie you're antifeminist#if you refuse to wear pink I'll make you pay a fine#hashtag girlpower#(well im not a girl. not a guy either. and not a secret third thing. just bad at femininity.#bad at being a person. and y'all don't need to tell me you don't want me in your club#I've always known that. i just wish you'd stop expecting me to beg for entrance.)
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marzipanandminutiae · 2 years
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me: it kind of annoys me that the new Barbie trailer claims Barbie was the first non-baby doll for children. here are some examples of ancient lady dolls, presented in a Ha Ha Funney tone
everyone in the notes: OH MY GOD JESUS CHRIST IT’S JUST A BARBIE MOVIE CALM DOWN GET A JOB NOBODY’S GOING TO BELIEVE IT ANYWAY!!!!! YOU’RE DUMB AND AWFUL AND NO-ONE CARES
(a bunch of other people in the notes: it’s true though/she was the most popular so she’s the only one that counts/wait there were adult-shaped dolls before Barbie? where?)
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james-p-sullivan · 1 year
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if i don’t see deandra the new girl at least once in the barbie movie im asking for a refund
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timewarpagain · 8 months
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No, "I'm Just Ken" did NOT "miss the point" of the movie, and people who liked it and are also glad that it won also did not MiSs ThE PoiNt. Yeah there's something to be said about a song (primarily) centered around men and toxic-masculinity about women blahblah too tired to write all this out now
But if Barbie really was supposed to be "all about women" and "only for women" or whatever then why have Ken in it at all? Why have him be a fun character to watch and have a whole entire character arc about finding who he is outside of a relationship and being Barbie's walking accessory?
I'm pretty sure the actors and Greta herself have stated that Ken and his journey is a great part of the film and I don't think they would speak to positively about the attention Ken was getting if they disapproved it.
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undead-knick-knack · 1 year
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filmloversociety · 8 months
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Ryan Gosling reacting to "I'm Just Ken" win at the Critics Choice Awards
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themightynein · 1 year
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caleb and nott, circa 835 PD
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francisforever2014 · 1 year
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people who like pink have such a victim complex literally what r you talking about
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Not to say something so capitalist as a socialist, but I kind of don't care if the Barbie movie is actually some big ploy to sell more barbies, its been so much fun to see people excited about something that is at its core is made for girls enjoyment, for a traditionally feminine interest to be celebrated not ridiculed. Also at least its propaganda to buy dolls not like military propaganda or something
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im pretty sure this is not a popular opinion which is why i havent said it, but its been on my mind for months now so fuck it, i guess.
you know that post, the one about the barbie movie and margot robbie talking about barbie being a doll with no reproductive organs and sexual desire, and a lot of tumblr users just like, celebrating this as a win for asexuality?
i hate that post. a lot. like a lot a lot.
because while i dont think margot robbies conclusion is wrong (shes a doll), i think calling barbie asexual is inaccurate and it makes me, an ace person, uncomfortable.
like i dont think its a purposeful link, but that comparison very much implies that sexuality and sexual desire is tied to having reproductive organs, which uh no, thats not how that works and i really dislike that implication. idk about you, but i dont like tying my queerness to my biology.
that link is also one that rings of those who presume that there is a universal normative experience, which is also true of the movie itself, see jessie genders video on that. there are many people in the world who have what would be considered atypical reproductive organs and plenty whose reproductive organs can be considered not-working like those who have gone through the menopause, and they are not all ace.
its also just reductive as to what asexuality in general. margot robbies quote was specifically that barbie didnt feel sexual desire, and funnily enough, sexual desire =/= sexual attraction. while i, myself, be a sex-repulsed ace, there are plenty of horny aces who do the fuck. ive already mentioned the fact that im opposed to linking my queerness to biology, and honestly that part only made me more uncomfortable after the movie ended on "im here to see my gynecologist".
also just, barbie is a plastic doll. like thats how she starts in the movie itself. shes not asexual, shes a doll. and idk dude, theres just a part of me that is deeply uncomfortable with tying asexuality with a doll.
like imo, this just isnt the win for asexuality people were treating it as. we can do better than this.
especially considering the way queerness was handled in the film, but again, go watch jessie genders video on it, its better presented than my rambling post
#kai rambles#this has been on my mind for months#everytime i saw that post#i stayed quiet#i didnt say anything#i didnt want to ruin people's fun#which is how i treated all of the barbie movies because people were having fun i didnt want to ruin the fun#or come across as a contrarian#or put myself on the same side of all the sad men complaining about it being about men being evil#because like thats not my opinion but when those are the loudest voices criticising the film#you dont want to join in yourself because i also think their criticisms are dumb and bigoted#but i also think the movie was a vehicle for capitalism and that people are hailing greta gerwig for a middling film that is also an#advert for matel#and that its social commentary is woefully lacking because its just so fucking white#it is a white feminist movie#it is a cishet feminist movie#it does not address or even acknowledge intersectionality#and it is randomly (?) racist towards native americans#like the smallpox line and the uh funny haha barbie version of mount rushmore joke are uh#theyre unnecessary inclusions that show at the very least an ignorance towards native issues and experiences#also like its hard to make your fuck the patriarchy movie when capitalism is a fundamental part of the patriarchy and your movie is also an#also the movie itself links gender with reproductive organs which is not only cisnormative and like fucking#radfem bullshit#but also completely ignores the fact that intersex people exist#...i did not mean to go on a rant#i didnt even like particularly dislike the film i just fucking hated how it was being discussed
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terezipyropescrocs · 8 months
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they gave ken the "i want" song..........
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