Just to minimize my chances of being genuinely misunderstood OR deliberately misinterpreted, and crucified for something I don't think, How Dare You Say We Piss on the Poor website etc...I'm gonna say this right up top. I absolutely understand why people don't like Thessaly as a character, if anyone does completely unironically stan her as some kind of feminist hero who Did Nothing Wrong uwu, I personally see it as a bit of a red flag. I don't like terfs real or fictional. In a vacuum, I could even completely sympathize and agree with the people who want her cut.
HOWEVER.
It's really something to me to see people clamoring for her to be cut, because she carries and expressed an ugly indefensible prejudice (transphobia) in words towards (1) person. Meanwhile Hob fucking Gadling enacted one of the most violent forms of antiblack racism I can even think of against thousands no, millions of people, the ripple effects of which still affect billions more today. Just a little light idk, profiting off the fucking slave trade and had to be told by someone else that it was bad...and he's a fan favorite.
People are saying Thessally being Dream's love interest reflects badly on him or is somehow endorsement by the narrative (?!?!?!?!?!? Didn't she (SPOILER ALERT AS IF IT MATTERS BY NOW) help participate in his extended assisted suicide? She's not painted as a great person to me just another character what are y'all SMOKING whatever fine. It's fine this is fine.) But shipping Dream with Mr. Former Slaver is not only not verboten or frowned on widely in the fandom but its THEE most popular pairing by far. So...why the difference?
Like where are the same fans who are saying Thessaly shouldn't just be more clearly shown to be wrong, she shouldn't even be in the show at all when it comes to Hobert's crimes??? Yes, transphobia is indefensible. Isn't racism?
And I hear the cries of "it's fiction!!!" Already rallying (if anyone who needs to hear this even sees it lol) to which I say:
HORSESHIT. I KNOW you don't, deep down, really agree because if you did, why get upset about Thessaly being included??? Why does what she said to one person matter if it's Just Fiction You Guyze. Fictional characters are allowed to do bad things and fiction isn't reality sweaty....except when you only apply that standard to fictional racists you like and simp for, but fictional transphobes you don't are SO HARMFUL they shouldn't even be portrayed in fiction.
Like. Give me a big fat BREAK. This looks like bullshit, no? I'm sorry, but I'd love for someone to try and give any other explanation besides one personally offended you or hit home for you, and the other doesn't.
And if that bothers you or you feel like it says something negative about you...idk what you want me to say??? You can't control how other people perceive you and that's how people outside this majority-of-the-fandom bubble see it. You don't need to respond, I just wish and genuinely hope this gives you a moment to think about why fans who ARE bothered by both (and not just paying lip service to being bothered by the one but railing against the other) are so frustrated with people saying everyone is welcome but in practice only bending over backwards for the comfort and emotions of themselves, and people they can easily relate to.
You don't have to like Thessaly (I don't. I find her an interesting antagonist, I don't stan her. And frankly that's not the point of her character) but you'll pardon me for feeling more than a bit cynical and side eying people's motivations for what seems a...pretty obvious double standard, on what fictional crimes related to real world issues matter to y'all, and which clearly don't. Either actually bring the same energy to the table for fictional people who committed atrocities, even if against a group you're not part of and thus don't feel the need to empathize with, or just carry on, but accept that you don't have the SLIGHTEST room to talk about cutting characters who do immoral things. And you also need to accept that you look like a hypocrite when you do.
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Icarus: What are you auditioning for anyways?
Frances: An internship. Don’t worry though, it shouldn’t interfere with work.
Icarus: That’s great news!
Frances: I haven’t landed it yet.
Icarus: Still, that’s exciting. Are you graduating this year?
Frances: I can confidently say yes all thanks to you. I’m gonna pay you back, I haven’t forgotten.
Icarus: Ah, don’t worry too much about that. I would much rather you focus on your future.
Frances: [ chimes ] Moddddd-est.
Icarus: Oh my god.
Frances: You ready?
Icarus: Mhm.
[ As soon as the bow glides across the string, a sharp vibration pierces the room. This sound is much less kinder than the last. Instead, the shrill produced from the instrument are reminiscent of an anxiety-ridden mind. ]
Frances: What do you think?
Icarus: Well… I certainly felt something.
Frances: It was bad wasn’t it? Fuuuck. No!
Icarus: Wait! Sorry! It wasn’t bad. I think you could hear the nerves. If that was what you wanted then great!
Frances: Icarus that’s horrible! That’s not what I want them to hear!
Icarus: I mean, life imitates art, right? Is there something going on?
Frances: Yes. It always feels like there’s something going on though.
Icarus: And that’s fine, everyone is going through something. Myself included.
Frances: [ scoffs ] Yeah right!
Icarus: What do you mean by that?
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“I generally assume when people are asking about like irken anatomy or weather or not Zim is an adult or a child, I feel like they’re kinda circling around, uh, you know, particular things but that’s not the show. Enjoy what you enjoy, like what you like but yeah, they’re into some shit”
- Jhonen in an interview you can watch here: https://youtu.be/WoiqWHNQHFc?si=SIc1MsQTU_6H-qE4
He might say we’re into some shit but it seems like he does not care. Yet another reason why ship / age discourse and hanging onto his opinion doesn’t matter. We’re already commiting sins against canon by doing things that Jhonen says isn’t a part of the show anyway, like shipping in general. And he says so himself - enjoy what you enjoy. He doesn’t give a shit.
It's crazy how much people invest themselves in seeking Jhonen's validation for purity culture discourse when prior to Zim this guy was most famous for an ultra-violent horror comic about a serial killer. Like, I'm pretty sure most people who create and consume horror media have an innate understanding that the entire point is to explore the taboo from the safety of the realm of imagination. Nny even goes on a rant in one comic dismissing the idea that media influences people to become violent and Professor Membrane in one episode of Zim says "Video games develop hand-eye coordination and make children into better human beings" as a direct rejection of contemporary conservative talking points about video games causing violence.
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I mean sometimes they dug at night, thats one way
but you also have to realize that the trench lines weren't that close to each other, basically when the war ground to a stop both armies stopped at just outside of direct fire range and started digging in, no man's land was often a few football field's wide, with trees and hills and stuff between the two lines, things that got flattened by 4 straight years of shelling into the muddy hell you see in movies but in the first days of digging that would have blocked views
from there they slowly dug closer toward the enemy but like I said they were never close enough to reach out and touch
See I knew they were never that close but I do also remember the reason why I had the question to begin with was our teacher said that the trenches could be as close as 10 meters away from each other in certain areas which just made me think of these two dudes awkwardly digging pretending not to see each other although if they were digging at night it'd probably be easier to politely ignore each other
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Ride 746: Cheering and conclusion!!
Pag 1
1: I'll win!!
2: I will!! I'll become the sixth member!! This year for sure!!
3: I'll go!!
4: I will!! On the same stage as you, Issa!!
Pag 2
1: They're neck and neck!!
For sure!!
Pag 3
1: For sure!!
Pag 4
1: There are 50m left until the sensor line!!
2: Kuaaaa
3: Garuaaaa
Pag 5
3: Nii-chan, on!!
4: Damn, I get it
This resolution, is making me shake
5: Sugimoto!! I'm cheering for you!!
Pag 6
1: Danchiku!!
2: 30m left!!
Pag 7
2: I think I can hear, mixed together with Sadatoki's voice
3: Kawada's cheering
4: It's surprising, but I'm grateful
It's turning into strength for me, Kawada
6: Imaizumi....
Pag 8
1: is watching quietly
Can't be helped
2: They're the three core third years who put together the club
They can't afford to support one of us
4: But, maybe, if you supported me
I
5: I would have been
6: several times more strong than usual
Pag 9
1: I'm glad
For this training camp
2: It's been hard, but, Imaizumi, I could become your “buddy”, and run with you during these intense for days
3: Imaizumi......
4: I haven't told you yet
5: Once this race is over.... will you listen to me?
5: It's silly
A daydream
6: The reason why I want to run in the Inter High
7: I've been thinking about it since around a year ago
Before the finish line, running as teammates, wearing the same jerseys....
Pag 10
1: Go, Imaizumi!!
Got it, Teru!!
I.....
2: I thought that I want to push your back and for you to take the finish line
3: With these hands!!
Pag 11
2: Sugimoto
3: At first, you boasted that you were an experienced cyclist, but it was just words
During the first training camp, you retired halfway through
4: But you worked so hard
Secretly
5: And without resting, for three years
Sugimoto.....
6: Show me the moment your three years of progress bear fruits
Pag 12
1: Pedal!! Sugimoto!!
2: Yeah!!
Pag 13
3: Now
4: 30m!!
I'll pedal at full power!!
Pag 14
1: Garuaaaa
2: Sugimoto-san
3: You're really an amazing guy
4: I respect you from the bottom of my heart
Pag 15
1: Your heart is probably bigger than mine
2: The courage to boldly challenge, the earnestness of working so hard
The heart of never giving up until the end
3: You, who hid all that, are strong
4: Stronger than me, much more!! I finally noticed during the last lap
5: So
6: It's the end, so please
My heart is so small it can fit in the palm of my hand
So
Pag 16
1: Allow me to practice with you one more time, senpai!!
Pag 20
1: Garuaaaa
2: It's Danchiku
Danchiku crossed the sensor line first!!
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