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wonderfultoweird · 2 years
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I've seen some people upset about Bruce Wayne's portrayal in Harley Quinn Animated Series, specifically about S3 ep8 where Harley goes inside Bruce's mind and I just wanted to give my thoughts on it.
I actually really liked the idea about Batman just having to relive his parent's death every moment of his life, and that kind of being why the way he is. It does really paint kind of this awful picture though when it comes to him as a dad and the idea that like, none of the moments he had with his children were important enough to stand out or be his happiest moments. It also kind of seems like all of his love for his children didn't really matter because he just cares about his own parents. While I agree to some extent (like the fact that he didn't even think about resurrecting Jason?? tf is up with that) I also think it's a bit more complicated than that.
In the show he has shown obvious care for at least one son (arguably two since he did make effort for dick to get along with the batfam), as he has a bonding moment with damian after harley accidentally puts him in danger.
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As we all know, Bruce's love language is mainly Acts of Service, protecting those he loves, providing for them, training and teaching them. But after this scene Damian is still upset and Bruce goes out of his way to comfort him.
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[Because the captioning is awkward I've also put in the scipt here:
Bruce: Damian, I made your favorite.
Damian: You didn't make that. Alfred made that.
B: I made him make it. Are you mad because I had to save you from Joker?
D: No. I'm livid because everyone in Teen Titans is getting a nemesis, except me.
B: I'm gonna say something embarrassing here. I didn't have a nemesis until my late 20s.
D: Don't patronize me, Father. It's unbecoming.
B: It's true. I wasn't ready for one. You want your first nemesis to be special. Someone who you could see being your nemesis for the rest of your life.
D: I suppose you're right, Father.]
I think it isn't that he doesn't love his children or care about them, it's that his memories and his emotions are corrupted by that singular memory, and that when he tries to be happy, to run away, to move on there's that older Bruce who believes he doesn't deserve to be happy, he doesn't deserve to not look.
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Like it's quite literally written out for us right there, he can't ever escape his parent's death. Also on top of that I also wanted to point out what Harley says here:
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When I first saw this panel my immediate conclusion was that it was because Harley was there, but earlier in the episode it shows that she actually really can't change his memories that much, she can only change one small thing, which was that he didn't have to look.
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In this I think that Harley being there has nothing to do with the shooter being there and tainting his memories and everything to do with the fact that bruce is inside another memory, where he isn't constantly rewatching his parents murder.
I believe this is why Bruce's happiest memory can't be with his children or any time after his parents died, because in his mind he is just a scared child rewatching his parent's death over and over. When he tries to live in a world without them the guilt pulls him back to that memory.
I just believe that he does love his children a lot but his own personal happiness with them is hard to think about without feeling guilty about his own parents. Hopefully, Harley will be able to knock some sense into him now that she's his official therapist :)
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puppetwoman17 · 3 months
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Headcanon that the bats are the only people in Gotham who don’t know about Joker Junior.
The only people who know JJ’s identity are Bruce, Barbara, Jim Gordon, Joker himself, and Harley Quinn. Tim made Bruce promise not to tell Dick, and that continued when Jason came back, with him not wanting to be one of the older man’s triggers. The trend followed with Duke, Cass, Steph, and Damian, with him being more and more certain that if he told them, they would hate him.
Nothing lasts forever, though, and the batkids soon notice how differently Gotham treats Red Robin.
Rogues like Riddler, Harley, and Poison Ivy refrain from hurting him too much. Seasoned thugs quickly take away any electrocution devices from the newer ones, stating that “we don’t electrocute Red Robin”. When it comes to RR, Gotham’s citizens can get very peeved with the Bat.
The kids also notice the odd closeness between Jim, Babs, and Tim. Hell, there are times where they invite the older man to dinner and he goes off to whisper with Tim. The one time someone tried to subtly follow them, Babs stopped them in their tracks.
Everything comes to ahead when Dick goes deep into the bat computer archives for a case he assumes is tied to another. And lo and behold, he finds something titled Junior. He assumes that this is about a child villain and is curious, as the date tells him this happened while he was off in Bludhaven so many years ago.
It’s not.
He calls in the other bats(Tim is somewhere else) and they read through the files and watch the videos. God, the videos.
Dick is angry. Him and his siblings are fuming. Everything comes together and makes so much sense.
How some Gotham citizens treat RR differently. How Jim Gordon always makes sure RR is okay. How Babs knows how to calm Tim down better than anyone else. How Bruce always looks so guilty when he looks at Tim, a scarily similar look as the one he gives to Jason.
Their brother had been keepinh this secret for years, probably because he didn’t want them to hate them(Jason shakes his head furiously. “Stupid kid”.)
When Tim comes home, lo and behold with Babs, he immediately clocks onto their thoughts and makes a break for it. Babs blocks the door for everyone else. She says nothing.
Thats as far as I got.
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mae-martin · 2 years
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I don’t want you to compromise yourself. I mean, we’re equals in this relationship, and that’s why it’s so great. We can fully have different passions. 
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HARLEY and IVY | Harley Quinn: The Animated Series – ‘A Very Problematic Valentine’s Day Special ’
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booasaur · 1 year
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Harley Quinn -  A Very Problematic Valentine’s Day Special - Coming February 9th
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youronebraincell · 10 months
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HARLIVY AS MOMS IS SO PERSONAL TO ME
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tvandfilm · 2 years
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Harley Quinn 3.09 | Climax at Jazzapajizza
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Harley & Ivy kisses (minus sex scene) in Harley Quinn, A Very Problematic Valentine's Day Special, 3x11
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hideawayfairy · 8 months
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Okay, I know this is meant to be a reference to Flashdance, but this actually gives me Harley Quinn vibes.
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demigoddessqueens · 11 months
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Talia al Ghul was not who I was expecting this season but I want to see more of her!!!
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Nightwing calling his 🍑 a “glistening apple bottom” was not something I needed !!
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dorkphenix · 11 months
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I was not ready for this 😆🍑
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hyperfixation-s · 2 years
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I love her new look!!
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mae-martin · 2 years
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Who cares about a dumb trophy? I’ve got the real award right here. 
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dandelionandkrindle · 2 years
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HARLEY QUINN: THE ANIMATED SERIES 3x04 | A Thief, A Mole, An Orgy
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sapphichymns · 2 years
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“The wedding dress worn by Sarah Jessica Parker in the Sex and the City movie, that was such a cash grab, and you paid $50,000 for it. I'm sorry, what?”
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xeocx13 · 2 years
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So proud of this show and this couple to communicate through their feelings instead of breaking up. ❤️ Can’t wait to see what season 4 brings and the comic coming up this October!
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