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phe-oh-no · 2 years
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Trevor my beloved
Im working on a oneshot for he ;)
Ill post it if i actually do it NO PROMISES //shot
But im trying to de research on the settings ill be working with bc newsflash im from the anti-australia commonwealth brother (canada) so I wanna do it right 😭
Also bc i wanna do my our mans justice of course uvu
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chirpsythismorning · 1 year
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Why I Don’t Experience Byler Doubt
It’s simple. One of the most essential techniques in storytelling: Show, don’t tell.
Show, don't tell is a technique that allows the audience to experience the story through actions, words, subtext, thoughts, senses, and feelings rather than exclusively through the creators' exposition, summarization, and description.
Even more importantly (assuming we want to enjoy ourselves bc this is supposed to be high quality entertainment), it adds drama. Rather than telling viewers what's happening, a filmmaker will use this technique to show drama unfold. 'Telling' is factual and avoids detail; while 'showing,' is detailed and places the human subject at the centre of the drama.
This technique is literally playing out in the narrative when it comes to Mike’s inability to tell El he loves her (or even simply write love Mike in his letters), which he never would have had to tell her (spell out) in the first place, if he had just shown her that he loved her.
It’s no fun having to spoon feed your audience. Instead, it's much more enjoyable for the storyteller to present the truth in the details, even sometimes contradicting very basic assumptions that are being outright told. Hence why, for example, when the Duffers were asked about the Vecna reveal, Ross used the opportunity to go on a mini tangent: 'the best twists are ones that you go, “Oh, I should have seen that coming.” As opposed to the twists that go, “Oh, well that just came out of nowhere.” So, “Oh, I missed these clues along the way.” But you get nervous when you’re writing it because you go, “Well, to me it seems obvious--'.
In fact, Show, don't tell is what largely allows surprise revelations to hide in plain sight. Because obviously, if a writer just tells their audience everything that's happening while it's happening, we would always see what's coming next.
And so the problem I have with downplaying or even completely refusing to acknowledge the importance of Show, don't tell, in the case of Stranger Things especially, is that, in order to comfortably subscribe to what is being told, I have to ignore what is being shown.
We see this play out all the time on Reddit in particular, which if I'm being honest is the only platform at this point that treats mere speculation about Will and Mike's relationship as if it is the end of the world. On the rare occasion the mods don't remove a byler related post, the post is either already negative towards byler or the comments are filled with fury over the poster simply thinking critically by speculating about byler. Even if you manage to get a fan over there in the comments to consider certain evidence pointing towards byler as incriminating, they'll still manage to end it by downplaying the Duffers and their abilities, because 'They're not that smart!'...
They'll ask for evidence, be presented with it, only to insist that it's all reaching because details mean nothing and everything about the show is actually just surface level, ie. it's not that deep.
Without even realizing it, they're low-key admitting that going the byler route would be smart, and yet here they are tirelessly defending a show that, according to them, has shit writers and no deeper purpose. All this does is prove that they are hoping this is the case. Because even despite being presented with strong evidence that the show might very well be epic, they would rather reject it altogether.
They would rather have one of their favorite shows suck and defend it religiously, then consider the possibility that it's good and gay...
Don't get me wrong, there are definitely fans on reddit that don't hate byler. I imagine out of the million in that sub, there's a silent majority that would be open to it. Keep in mind, most fans still active at this point in hiatus are hardcore fans, and so they're obviously opinionated, that goes for everyone on most platforms rn. And yet, I know there are very likely casual fans who are popping in there every now and then, the same people in the majority when after s4 dropped, saw that monologue and said What the actual fuck was that?
There’s a reason no other couple on the show has needed to hear the words I love you to believe it. Well, besides Steve and Nancy…
Because SHOW, DON'T TELL. That's why!
So, what do I mean when I say that Show, don't tell is why I no longer have byler doubt?
It's actually pretty ironic, but basically the moment Mike told El he loved her, that's the moment they showed us that he didn't.
I mean, for starters, how does one go about filming a romantic love confession? Because if we're being entirely serious right now, they made just about every artistic and creative choice possible to go against what a romantic love confession should look like to feel satisfying.
I mean, you'd probably want the atmosphere to be intimate, right? Make the audience feel like these two are the only two people in the room (world) for this moment?
Well, that's not the case for Mike and El, nor is it the case for literally any of their scenes in s4 (arguably a lot of their scenes in the series; Will the wise drawing in El's room, I'm looking at you). Almost all of the scenes with them together in s4 had Will in the background, often times in the literal frame between them. That is NOT how you film scenes for a romantic pairing that you want the audience to root for, from beginning to end.
You guys gotta understand, rewatch value is one of the most important aspects to this story for the Duffers. When talking about the prospects of s5, they mentioned that they rewatched all the Lord of the Rings, saying how important it was, despite what some fans might say about the ending being too long, or this or that, bc to them, it was necessary to watch it all, and to rewatch it and rewatch it, in order to appreciate the entire story as a whole, aka the way it was intended.
If you're a serious about Mike and El as a romantic pairing, but because of the way the show has set up their relationship over the seasons, you can't sit down and enjoy more than a quarter of each season bc they're either separated, broken up, or on the rare occasion they are together and happy, they're accompanied by a kicked puppy in every shot, maybe all of that's for a reason.
And that applies to the scene in Surfer Boy more than any other scene in the show, a scene that is supposed to be Mike's monologue to El... You mean a scene that directly parallels Mike's monologue to Will in s2?
When planning the end of s4, do we think the Duffers just decided they wanted this intimate moment between Mike and El to have Will in the frame behind Mike (visually piggybacking off of him, in an episode titled The Piggyback...) in almost every shot, including when he said I love you for the first time, for no reason at all? Or is it possible there was a reason for it? Just like there's been a greater reason for everything?
Like bro, I'm sorry, but even if what's being told in that scene is relevant, all of it still reads as either a lie, a partial lie, a lie of omission or a platonic truth hiding behind romantic phrasing: I don't know how to live without you = platonic (trauma bond), whereas I can't live without you/I don't want to live without you = romantic. The later is out of desire/want, the former is out of fear of the unknown.
The entire scene the lighting is blinking rapidly. And so the vibe they're going for here is uncertainty, which is quite odd for a love confession that's supposed to feel certain? Then we have El seeing all red the entire time. She's literally choking, hearing Mike struggle to muster up anything that could help her pull through, only to overhear Will calling Mike the heart, followed by Mike finally saying I love you????
And I guess according to the Duffers, nothing says true love like a love confession ending abruptly by a two day time jump...
Oh and how about, instead of them taking the time at the end of the season for El and Mike to have a private moment, where they could finally address their love for one another, let’s have them barely on speaking terms, and the one time they do talk, let’s have it be offscreen and mentioned in a private moment between Will and Mike, who in contrast to Mike and El, we're going to prioritize having a scene with them alone together at the end of this season...
In the last minutes, let’s have El look at Mike and Will, only to avoid them with visible annoyance. And THEN let’s show Mike visibly defeated by El's annoyance, instead prioritizing reassuring Will, aka his friend with whom he shares an I didn’t say it/ You didn’t have to bond...
I mean? Are we just not going to talk about it? The fact that I didn't say it/You didn't have to could pass off as a literal synonym for Show, don't tell...
It just kills me that even with all of that, the Duffers were like, You know what? Fuck it. Let's show them all the endgame couples lined up next to each other, with Will and Mike in the middle and El standing on her own in front of them. If by now they still refuse to consider it, after everything, this ending probably wont convince them anyways, but it makes for great rewatch value...
Seriously, if you're subscribing fully to the belief that what is being told is the whole truth and nothing but the truth (so help you god), then you're having to ignore all of that. And I can't ignore all of that, I just can't. Which makes it impossible for me to experience doubt anymore.
#byler#stranger things#byler doubt#not really#quite the opposite#but i'll tag in case#show don't tell allows you to acknowledge what is being shown AND told bc the truth of what's being told is hiding in the details#that's not the case for people only wanting to believe what's being told bc they're having to completely ignore the details to believe it#like i know for milkvans... byler scenes do NOT work in their favor#whereas for bylers... pretty much all milkvan scenes do work in our favor#and so genuinely i just can't experience doubt anymore#arguing with antis is fun to me#looking at reddit posts is peak entertainment#ppl praying to the gods that ST sucks bc they would rather have that be the case than it be an intricate story with deeper meaning#bc then that would mean all the queer-coding that's been hiding in the details all along was intentional...#there's nothing I can do for ya'll except sit here and watch you unpack that#reddit is going to be quite the spectacle over the next couple years#once byler happens there's probably going to be instant denial#then mourning#then acceptance#or whatever the 4(?) stages of grief are#then they'll eventually get to a point where they will allow themselves to look at the evidence instead of avoiding it out of fear#and that's when it's finally going to hit them#oh my god#it's me#i'm part of the reason they had to water it down#bc even upon being presented with evidence#they rejected it#and now they gotta give credit to tumblr bylers who discovered most of the evidence they've been shitting on for the last few years#honestly i'm looking forward to it
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faunandfloraas · 24 days
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Hyung... you're really incredible.
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uncanny-tranny · 1 year
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The Trans Community is less an amalgamation of every trans person in existence and more of many trans communities with different needs, goals, aspirations, and experiences, so I'm always low-key suspicious every time I hear cis people act as though there is a Singular Hegemonic Trans Community.
When you notice and recognize that there are many trans communities with either similar or polar opposite goals, I think you can recognize commonalities between communities and are able to work with us instead of assuming, you know?
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sassykinzonline · 12 days
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the same people who defend sakura for making fun of an orphan to another orphan insult chocho for disliking her dad being cowardly and gluttonous
i have decided its both fatphobia and misogynoir
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greensaplinggrace · 9 months
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🔥s&b
darkling fans are the og antis actually. every time I see an anti post I remember an analysis I’ve already seen written by a fan of his that is not only more critical, but better at it. they’re usually more accurate to his character, to the text, and to the other characters as well. they’re usually harsher on the darkling, and they’re always incredibly efficient pieces of character analysis. I have never seen better and more accurate hate for the darkling than from the people that actually like him.
send me a 🔥 for an unpopular opinion (x)
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vegan moral opposition to leather is so fucking stupid like, listen, that animal is gonna be killed anyways, you are quite literally never going to convince everyone to stop eating meat/dairy/eggs/etc, and even if you somehow did it'd be ecologically disasterous, humans are an omnivourous species that can have a symbiotic relationship with the animals around them, but thats been fucked over by industrialisation, urbanisation, and capitalism, which are all things we can fix, instead of magically expecting most or all of the population to somehow abanon entire food groups that provide multiple nutrients and let both livestock and predator populations go wholly unchecked, which in turn will wreak havoc on agriculture and the ocean and the rest of the environment, so like if we're gonna be killing animals to eat them anyways, since its pretty damn important for us and them that we do at least sometimes, the fucking least we can do is use as much of the animal as is possible, which includes making leather out of it, which need i remind everyone is also far more sustainable and enviromentally concious than that microplastic pleather bullshit that barely lasts 5 years
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jasontoddssuper · 1 year
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Shouto and Momo don't have even half the amount of interactions that Izuku and Bakugou do yet they still feel more like best friends who are a superhero duo together than they do.That's so fucking funny fjfhfhdhfhfgjehd
@agrebel18 @the-beauty-and-the-rage @leo-thecactus @kyojurolover
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clemencetaught · 5 months
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Patrick in verse three is ironically what you would call a cynical idealist. like he knows how the system works, how it upholds the capitol and its citizens, how it keeps the victors chained in place and the districts at the foot and accepts that that is the way things will always be in this day and age. but there’s always a part of him that can’t help but desperately wants to believe that there is a better world out there... and no matter how much he might tell himself not to believe that, he can’t ever shake off that longing.
It’s the main reason he’s can’t help but have a soft spot to stubborn, outspoken, and even reckless idealists ( *cough cough* marìa @mythvoiced )…if it doesn’t get in the way of his priorities too much, he will stick his neck out for them :’D
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inahallucination · 1 year
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some of yall just forget being bisexual is a thing huh
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dickfuckk · 2 years
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My opinions on izzy are all over the place like i hate him but i love him. I want him to get punched but he deserves better. He’s married to his job and not in love with ed but he is in love with ed and just has a very toxic way of dealing with it. He did absolutely not enjoy the toe scene but he was kind of into it and also loved the choking scene. He is a little miserable bitch but he wants to be better
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whenever i see a post like “treating all feminism like terf blah whatever is exactly what terfs want yadda yadda” i’m sorry i can’t help but think God you sound so deranged. sorry LMAO
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People are actually attacking Rowina for disliking Billy?
Apparently, what makes no fucking sense to me. Why are people not allowed to dislike characters? I don't like him either, not at least in the way these people expect.
Speaking of the character of Billy, my sister watches Stranger Things with me and i feel like sharing a very interesting viewpoint she has regarding him.
In few words:
Billy is like Motley Crue. You know they did shady stuff. That's not the hill you wanna die on, there is proof they were jerks but you can still enjoy their thing if you don't take them seriously.
She says she only likes the character when not taking him seriously. From this viewpoint, she has found him a way more entertaining character than similar bullies like Henry from IT.
Some of this has stuck with me and i feel the only way in which i deal with the character is this quasi ironical consumption thing she does.
Whenever i include him in my Stranger Things writing, i only do it under the same satirical spirit Nirvana had with " Very Ape" or " Mr Moustache". Billy often represents all the oppresive shit that makes highschool life hell and that's what i take from him.
With this i don't mean to offend people who are fans of the character. It's my personal take on him. I don't take him seriously, like the lyrics on a glam metal hit.
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bitchthefuck1 · 2 years
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Every time I see someone call Inej an assassin part of my soul dies a little
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dykekakashi · 1 year
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"i'm a leftist" "i'm anti-capitalist" girl just say you don't know what you stand for but you didn't vote trump lol. i'm so tired
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laurelwinchester · 2 years
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hot take but maybe overprotective carla left laid back/adrenaline junkie/it's better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission beau because he thinks it's appropriate and reasonable to give a sixteen year old child a motorcycle
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