no because like it's the way Ray throws in Sand's face that he likes Ray. Even loves him. He can't walk away from him and everyone thinks if Ray knows that if he's known all along doesn't that make him awful. And I'm here to say. Ray doesn't know shit. That right there was him desperately throwing the words out drunk and high and praying he'd see something in Sand's expression or reaction that confirmed it wasn't some delusional belief he was clinging to. Something he wanted to be true once again which wasn't. He says it like accusation but it's desperation. It's love me. when I say you love me look at me like it's true. Show me it hurts you to pretend like you don't. Make me believe I can be loved. He tells Sand he can't walk away from Ray knowing damn well it's him who can't walk away from Sand and clinging to some self defence that maybe if it's true for Sand too then at least they can share in this messy confusion and sadness.
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do the cats track the stars closely enough to see if they move? what do they think of the stars movement throughout the seasons?
They would and the only reason why I don't really have "celestial" entries in Clan culture expansions is just because my autism doesn't go there
I like trees and bugs and the ecological benefits of managing moorland through controlled burns vs herd grazing and this paper I found on the diet of fish in Llyn Tegid vs wider English ecosystems. But to be honest? My eyes kinda glaze over when space comes up lmao.
Too much math, not enough leeches. I'll be interested in space once they bring some leeches up there.
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Hmmm in light of ao3's DDOS situation, allow me to offer a friendly reminder that the internet is forever but accessibility unfortunately is not! so if you find it important to preserve fanworks be sure to diversify your online presence if you can (you don't have to be socially active on every site but I firmly believe in backing up your work in many places!) Also don't be afraid to download your favorite fics! (Just don't reupload them without permission!)
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with the disclaimer that I don't know all the context since I haven't read it, how WAS he supposed to handle a contagious illness in a society that doesn't have any form of masks or sanitation? Temporarily quarantining contagiously sick cats away from healthy ones just seems like a completely different and much more reasonable thing than kicking out cats permanently for a disability because they would be a "burden".
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Ok, going with you having no context for this, he wasn't suggesting a 'temporary quarantine' for sick cats. There is already a quarantine, with only the medics approaching the sick. Following everyone having a Hearty Chuckle that Clear Sky 'cares about other people' now by saying we're "all in it together," Clear Sky shares his full plan;
He nonsensically believes that no sick prey is living in the burnt part of his woods and the fire "cleansed it", so all of the healthy cats will abandon the sick to die in their camps and come live on his territory and 'wait it out.'
His plan is that all the cats who become sick will die. It's not quarantine in the sense that they will 'help the sick but keep a distance', he is essentially suggesting a reverse leper colony where everyone who displays symptoms gets kicked out to fend for themselves.
And, in the past, illness was always part of his talking points for throwing cats out of his clan. It was why he tried to throw Frost out, where he would die alone. I went back to Thunder Rising to grab the passage,
This is after he shoves Thunder's face into it and tells him to lick it.
So, it's wholly inappropriate, imo, that Thunder essentially does a little eye roll and a cutesy sigh at this suggestion. "Ohh that's my dad and his ruthless streak." His dad has historically been a monster towards the sick and infirm when they "stop being useful" with this rhetoric. Burdens, disease, weakness. In this moment, he is proposing that they do to an unknown number of cats exactly what he commanded Thunder do to Frost.
Additionally, at this point in time, they don't know how the illness spreads. They're guessing that it's via contact with sick prey, and using leaves as rudimentary tissues/gloves. Clear Sky DOES know, though, these two things;
One Eye knows how it spreads and is not telling.
Many of his cats have been exposed.
He has no idea which cats have been exposed, or how many, or even how long it takes between infection and first symptoms. All they DO know is that symptoms are rapid onset and debilitating. By the time you know a cat is sick, they're covered in sores, have a bloated stomach, and are unable to hunt for themselves. The only thing that is for sure is that turning them out is a death sentence.
And yet he is confused at the idea that Thunder has an objection about leaving Morning Whisker, Wind Runner's kitten who isn't older than a month or two, alone to die.
The solution that the groups eventually come up with is that the clans will remain isolated from each other as to not spread illness, though it doesn't seem to work because infected prey still moves around freely.
Also note that the first time Clear Sky actually gives a damn about an infected person is when Jagged Peak's pregnant wife catches it (After Jagged Peak 'proves' he's useful now by leading a medicine-seeking patrol thanks to Gray Wing). Wind Runner's an "ex-rogue," a group Clear Sky has disdain for, and he doesn't think to have compassion about her baby.
So to answer your question directly, he was 'supposed' to handle it the way the Moor cats did and were, with some basic safety precautions. Not regress to trying to use the illness to get all the cats into a single Clan in his own territory where he could continue to throw "useless/dangerously ill/disabled" out into the wilderness "where the maggots will find them".
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