finally managed to make it all the way through listening to my icimi vinyl for the first time yesterday so here’s some highlights of how that went.
-it took me 3 days to listen to the whole album. there were parts i just had to replay and then other parts that i couldn’t stand to hear at that moment so i just did something else or went to sleep instead.
-that was another thing. music was so good it was putting me to sleep lol. (i am talking about side b!!!) (also didn’t help that i was already tired from work and whatever else)
-becoming the lastnames made me cry TWICE. i hate that song bc it makes me feel things :/ bc it really is an incredible song for a lot of reasons. first time was just in general. second time was when he hits that high note at That One Part
-bc i cried at lastnames i couldn’t cry at euthanasia. i always cry at that song, so that was actually nice to Not for once.
-pretty much for the rest of the time i listened to that side i wanted to cry but legit couldn’t bc lastnames had me Wrecked lol
-a day goes by and i Finally put the Other vinyl on the thing! half decade and vampire reference were just as good as usual. however,, i forgot that you liked this is the track After that. so hdh and vampire put me half to sleep and i just hear WELCOME TO YOUR PLATFORM. it was a whole jump scare and i have never ripped my headphones off faster. because of That i couldn’t bring myself to listen to it. fast forward to main character. much better.
-third and final day: against the kitchen floor made me cry right off the bat :) sex, drugs, rock n roll had me on the Floor (literally. this whole album is just blow after blow) AND THEN THE TRANSITION TO BFB MADE MY WHOLE DAY!! i forgot it was there but omfg i love that silly little song.. 47 seconds of whatever that is between all the heavy stuff was so nice i legit had to listen to it again before i could listen to willard! it was like the opposite of the you liked this transition lol
-white noise hit so hard at the end. i love that song but.. yknow Usually i don’t get silence after i listen to it and that was just. …hm. (in the best way)
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See, I think Charles’ annoyance and frustration with the Cat King really was just pure protectiveness and not any kind of jealousy - it’s understandable, because Edwin is not telling him what happened even though something clearly did, which is not typical for them. Edwin doesn’t usually hide things like this! Of course he’s worried!
Charles’ reaction to Monty, on the other hand, is difficult to explain in a way that isn’t jealousy. You could say he’s being protective again, but Charles shows no sign of distrust in Monty, and had no idea of who Monty was or that he might betray them - he was actually very chill with him, except in a select few specific scenes. You could say he just doesn’t like him because he got brushed off during their first meeting, but not only does that not seem like Charles at all, it also doesn’t make sense, since, again, in most instances, Charles is genuinely friendly and is happy when Monty compliments him and seems to have come around to liking him (it completely flies over his head that this is a petty jab at Edwin on Monty’s part but oh well hahaha). You could say it changes up their status quo a bit and that bothers Charles. I do think this bothers him a bit, but I think, unlike Edwin, Charles’ fear and frustration here is directed more at situations (the Cat King whisking him away for several hours, as an example) than others. He’s sociable and likes being able to talk to new people. There’s absolutely no way he’d begrudge Edwin doing the same - and he doesn’t… with Niko. Edwin and Niko hit it off and become very close and that never bothers Charles at all. He’s incredibly endeared to her, just like the rest, and for the most part, he’s chill with Monty too, and smiles pretty knowingly when Edwin confesses to him having awakened some feelings. The only exceptions, where he shows definite annoyance, are when Monty first shows up and gets really in Edwin’s personal space to show him the astrology chart he made, and when Edwin is so sucked into the book Monty gave him that he doesn’t hear that Charles is talking to him, to which he annoyedly says that they seem to have been “spending a lot of time together”.
You could say he’s unused to having anyone get in Edwin’s personal space like that, but, again, Niko. She’s very tactile with him and he doesn’t seem to mind all that much; they spend time together watching things. If it was just someone getting close with Edwin in general, not only would that be weirdly possessive for the character, but it would also mean he would show discomfort with anyone getting close, I think. Does Charles see Monty as more of a potential threat than Niko, seeing as he knows her and her personality and doesn’t know Monty? Well, maybe, but again, Charles shows no sign of distrusting Monty at all.
Monty is a boy. Okay. So something about seeing Edwin so close to a boy that is not him, getting lost in thought over something this boy gave him, really rubs Charles the wrong way. Charles appears to catch on just as quickly as anyone else that there is something (or it looks like something) between Edwin and Monty. He is not surprised when Edwin comes out to him in episode 6, and in fact, seems to have just been waiting for him to verbalize it. He smiles and is not bothered at all by Edwin showing (what he thinks is) a romantic interest in Monty - he just doesn’t like it when Monty clearly shows a romantic interest in Edwin. Um. Well. Well.
Charles is jealous. I really don’t know what else to say.
Look, when I first watched this show, I actually didn’t want them to end up together romantically - I love the idea of one having fallen in love with another who does not reciprocate and the two of them still loving each other just as much. That Edwin’s confession made them closer instead of making things awkward is such a beautiful outcome to this build up and I absolutely love it. However. On my two rewatches, I caught a lot more little details, and I think it would be very strange if the show did not follow up on this. That, plus the deliberate quality of these “jealousy” moments where the camera focuses on him, Charles’ Orpheus coding throughout the show, the fact that Edwin’s arc was far more about realizing his feelings for Charles specifically than just coming to terms with his sexuality, and that even the actors admit that Charles’ response to the confession kind of left things open, it really seems to me like the path leads to a romantic endgame for them, or at the very least, that this possibility will be explored in more depth.
**This is just my reading of it. Please do not use this post as a gotcha for anyone who loves them as a platonic duo or people who really love Crystal and Charles together (because let’s face it, they’re super cute too). I’m just doing my rambles. As per usual.
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Once again thinking about how Red vs Blue goes from “haha funny Halo machinima show” to “war is a truly deplorable thing that has horrific effects and only serves the self-interests of the elite who carelessly throw away the lives of the working class and civilians for their own wealth and power, and that the soldiers who fight in these wars are effectively groomed into the army through patriotism, poverty, social pressures, and the promise of a better life they will never see. Soldiers are tricked with us vs them mentality, and are told not to think critically about the people they kill because they are simply on the other side”
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