Honestly no clue wether this will get past the sketch phase as I’m not that happy with it so I thought I’d post it here unfinished.
I really hope that at some point we’ll get to see summer and morty once they grow up, I wamt to see them as space vigilantes, that would be so cool omg
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sometimes people will say “going dark” and then what they’re actually talking about is just people no longer presenting a carefully constructed version of their emotions and experiences.
like. emotional turmoil is not the same as darkness. laudna in this Fictional Universe that has tangibly different stakes wrt to death and killing than our own, is at best like . morally neutral for what she just did like. man has been secretly trying to kill you, and then just tried to do so again, killing him back is a fair choice. and even if i was someone who is excited by delilah’s inability to escape from the narrative, this shit isn’t about delilah. laudna made a choice. if delilah is back or whatever it’s a choice that laudna made because something in that grants her more control than her existing conditions did. this isn’t some Delilah Takes Over, it’s Laudna Expressly Makes The Choice To Call Forth Something within Herself to remedy the lack of control that’s been thrust upon her. if y’all want to Continue to limit Laudna’s agency (as the cr fandom is so, so want to do when a female character makes a choice that isn’t Good according to some weird system of virtue ethics) go ahead.
likewise with orym. little guy is not “going dark” because he has finally made direct action about his emotional turmoil in dealing with a situation which has similarly left him without control and has also placed him in a position where his stalwart conviction towards protecting and honouring those he loves and has lost alike is constantly met with other people he cares for going well.. what if they had a point/we are killing other peoples loved ones/etc. which like . yeah that might be frustrating and in fact might lead him to go, actually, i can’t afford to try and maintain some abject morality where I carry a locket that will literally only provide guilt. orym is completely committed to his beliefs, the locket and what it represents has never been a limit to what he will do, only a reminder of the consequences of what he might cause in those actions. but they Are at war and orym has a billion things on his plate. he can put down the locket. especially when bor’dor is the explicit manifestation of that locket’s symbolism. the subtext rapidly became the text and orym doesn’t need a reminder. it’s there in the fact that team issylra is walking away with two friends, not three.
these are character who have at every turn denied their own emotions in various forms while still being acutely aware of what they deny, whether that awareness was/is fully realized or not. many of laudna’s early convos with ashton show us that there is some awareness to the lighthearted spooky goth girl and how that persona fades when she thinks too much about what has led her and maintained that reality. likewise the entirety of orym’s story thus far is defined by his grief in a very literal sense, it Has extended from that grief to also the commitment he had to the purpose of figuring out the assassination attempt on keyleth but as we have seen, that purpose has fallen apart. paired with the quasi-reopening of his grief that was getting to see will again only to have to turn away, i don’t think there’s a lack of awareness in orym of how much he hurts. but between his actions and 4SD, that hurt tends to get buried under guilt or Responsibility.
and now, finally, both of them have admitted to that Not in the safety of small introspection or one-on-one conversations but with actions that they cannot shy away from or deny. laudna killed bor’dor and orym encouraged her to. and it Is a complex situation but truly I don’t really think it’s a “going dark” one. because they’re not giving into some overhanging Darkness of Morality™, they’re admitting that they are hurt and have long been hurting.
or, y’know, tldr for those who continue to deny laudna and orym agency or fully villainise them for whatever weird reasons . you could listen to laudna and ashton’s conversation that pretty much lays it out explicitly. laudna claims she’s weak for having chosen to kill bor’dor. ashton denies that and affirms instead that, no, she’s hurt.
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i got invited into @skies-seas space headworld a while back and offered my beloved immortal space captain from spore 2008. and then it took me several months to finalize a design for them/their species
Captain Sondetten was once just a guy, but is now a spaceship puppeting around a clone of their old body. This is because they made the mistake of captaining the first expedition beyond their home star, and the first to encounter sapient alien life. Now they are not a person to the empire, they’re a living symbol progress and expansion and conquest and they can’t be allowed to die. So when they did, solutions were found. [more under readmore]
Several centuries later, Sondetten is still kicking. The same mind, more or less. They’ve accumulated so many memories that after a certain point, it was easier to transfer their mind into servers aboard their ship. Easier for the empire to maintain digital backups for when the ship is destroyed and needs to be rebuilt. Easier to filter out extraneous data that would only take up valuable space.
Son’s none too thrilled with their lot in life. Everything they do has political consequences that can make or break an alliance. Despite their influence they can’t do anything to change their situation. They don’t recognize the world they were born on. They can’t remember the names or faces of their countless dead friends. They’ve mostly stopped making friends, as no one else can understand fully what they’ve experienced. They’re a ghost haunting their own ship, which is more their true self now than the flesh they wear for the sake of being presentable.
In this shared setting, Son finally snapped and went rogue. They broke into a memory bank to hastily download a big file of that old ‘extraneous data’ (not a clean install, it’s not totally coherent or chronological but they’re glad to have the chance to invite old ghosts back in), then they made their exit and wrecked some shit on the way out, vanishing off to the other side of the galaxy. Son may have been a pacifist once but they’ve long since grown desensitized to violence.
There’s nothing stopping the empire from making another Sondetten, and becoming even more selective with what memories are returned to them to prevent this from happening again. But that’s a problem for that Sondetten, not this one. This Sondetten finally got away, and is for the first time in a long time somewhat mortal. They can make another body clone given enough time if the current one is killed, but if their ship is destroyed there will be no one to rebuild it and restore these memories. This Son will end if the ship dies, which is a novel experience.
In the meantime they’re trying to figure out how life works now in a place where they’re not being strangled by their own legacy. They arrive into the plot as just the ship with severe hull damage and some very atypical technology. They find themself put up as a grand prize to be won in some competition, which is not exactly what they were hoping for. They decide to play along for a time in hopes of getting free repairs, and only reveal themself as a sapient being when some folks try snooping into their memory servers or cloning process.
~ Anyway i made this species in spore in like 2012 or something? they were one of my main playthroughs and Sondetten is my go to when i’m playing the space stage :]
the original Maaydes + Sondie in game
i’ve been trying to draw/design the species but it took me sooooooo long to settle on what i wanted! the initial concept was marsupial + bird but it evolved past that. there’s plenty of thylacine in the jaw range of motion & general posture/body anatomy, but also some rodent proportions and upright posture. head cones from great crested grebe and austroraptor. wing anatomy and proportions are pterosaur, a single long digit supporting a membrane. with a wing covering of moth like scales. also a bit of pangolin but it’s more obvious on some subspecies than on Sond here
the idea is that the predecessors of this species had some kind of fur like covering, which over time changed into fused structures somewhere between a scale and a feather? they’re primarily equipped for insulation and ornamentation (colourful) but the wing scales help to provide lift, and there are larger variations that provide effective armour. stomach ‘plumage’ is more similar to the original ‘fur’
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Lady Rosebud Holloway
"Hm-hm-hm... Seems like you've backed yourself into a corner, haven't you, darling?"
Parents: Creek Holloway and Floyd Heath
Siblings: Snowdrop (Younger Sibling)
Age: 25
Pronouns: She/Her
Sexuality: Lesbian
Genre: Folk/Pop
Voice Claim: Ashley Serena
The eldest of Creek and Floyd, and one of the most eerie characters of the next generation. Sly, cunning, with a mischievous streak, Rosebud is not a Troll you wanna get on the bad side of.
Rosebud works as a bounty hunter on behalf of Trollstopia, hunting down criminals who disturb the peace. Her work in keeping Trolls safe earned her the title of Lady, which she strives to maintain.
Rosebud is fiercely protective of her family, especially her father, Creek. Rosebud is aware of Creek's past, and hates it when Trolls refuse to see past it. Some harsher Trolls call her the "Traitor's Child", which she tries to pretend it doesn't bother her. It's why she pushes for justice and the protection of others so much.
Despite her eerie persona, Rosebud is kind once you get to know her. She enjoys singing with her father Floyd, spending quiet afternoons with Snowdrop, and sparring with Creek.
Music wise, Rosebud loves Folk music. She loves how it can sound cheerful one moment, and haunting the next. She uses her naturally spooky sounding voice to lure in targets.
Rosebud currently resides in Trollstopia alongside her family.
Fun Facts!
- Rosebud is the best fighter of her family (extended fam included). She's bested Branch in fights (to the infinite pride of her father)
- Rosebud became a bounty hunter because of the scar she got on her neck. A criminal ran loose in the streets of Trollstopia, hurting dozens and even killing one. Rosebud took up being a hunter to keep anything like that from happening again. Girl's got a strong sense of justice.
- Daddy's girl through and through. She hates how some people look at her father like he's nothing but dirt. She's gotten into one or two fights with other Trolls about it.
- Has a huge crush on Honeysuckle, daughter of Delta Dawn. Wants to make a move, but she knows Honeysuckle likes someone else (it's actually her, she doesn't know that tho)
- Her first word was cunt. Floyd is forever mad at Creek about that
And here's the first of my two Fleek babies, Rosebud! Okay, without a doubt, Rosebud is my favorite OC. I was gonna have to pick a favorite child at some point.
It goes without saying that any child of Creek is gonna face some scrutiny. I mean, when your dad throws his entire civilization away for his own life, that's gonna follow you forever. I'll definitely be diving more into her
Also Rosebud has definitely killed someone before. What? You cant be a bounty hunter and NOT kill at least one lunatic!
Voice Example: My Jolly Sailor Bold (Ashley Serena)
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