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ginsoakedgirl80 · 9 months
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The teenage poisonous murder bean is just a stand in for the brother Gong Shangjue lost, now I almost feel bad for him.
Also he gets reminded of the harsh reality that his boyhood is almost over and that his best gege forever is getting married.
There is probably some subtext on young men fulfilling their duty towards their family after fooling around with people of their preferred gender(s) but dangai is banned so no this is about teenage poisonous murder bean being unhappy about losing his privileged position in Shangjue's household and getting to spend less time with him. We do not know his biological family but hanging out with gloomy Shangjue seems a lot more fun to him than being at the Zhi residence. (Anyone who had their bff fall into a relationship black hole can relate, lbr)
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And then during the Lantern Festival to drive the point home Gong Yuanzhi yet again gets reminded, that he doesn't have exclusive access to his favorite person any more.
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He goes home to figure out what the two brides are up to instead of celebrating with the other inhabitants of the Zhi residence. Which is really bleak considering that he is the head of the lineage and should have some fun too.
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Meanwhile Shangjue has a lovely 6D chess game Lantern Festival date with Shangguan.
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jamisonwritestf2trash · 7 months
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I did not just see someone say I'm not "pro-kink" for thinking incest shipping is wrong.
My brother in christ.
"It's not real, though!" And??? Why would you want to ship incest anyway??
I'm sorry, but no.
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sing-me-under · 8 months
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You know, I love Batfam as like an actual family but also I don’t really understand how people can look at the actual comics Batfam and think “yeah, these people are definitely family” like… at BEST they resemble something like martial siblings in wuxia novels. Sometimes they’re close enough to genuinely be brothers/sisters in all but blood but sometimes they’re also just “yeah we trained under the same sect and have a shared teacher but one of us has a life long grudge against him”
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anothermonikan · 1 year
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Yknow I think I understand now when people were saying that the Steven Universe fandom was toxic back when I was in it, I got lucky, the fandom has been revived on TikTok and the amount of bullshitery I've seen already,,, I have got to write an esaay or smth about like "Bad Victim Criticism" and how it is so so prevelant in this fucking fandom
#I promise you guys Steven Universe Future isn't problematic trauma rep. It is so so real and honest#Steven isn't perfect and his trauma makes him make bad decisions. This doesn't make it bad rep. It makes sense#Also Steven turning into a monster at the end of the show ISN'T supposed to be reflective of his trauma and his actions#It is supposed to be a reflection how he feels about himself because he wouldn't stop bottling everything he felt up#I've also seen like. People making full on hate videos for Connie???? Like. That is a child???#Yeah how DARE a child not be perfect and perfectly considerate of all of her actions and their consequences#Also I've seen people calling Lapidot a pr*ship and like????#Okay now that I'm older I can look at Lapidot and be a little more critical of their dynamic.#Lapis is traumatised on so many levels and she does take it out on Peridot and that isn't right or good and it shouldn't be looked over#And I do get that Peridot is heavily aspec coded as well!#But this ship was so so prevelant in the fandom and cartoon network fed into it a lot#I guess it feels weird to put Lapidot - This big fucking ship that was so so popular - in with like#Stuff like Age-gap ships and Incest ships and that shit#Guys I promise you Lapis is a complicated characters and not just. A monsterous abuser who secretly HATES Peridot or smth#They were friends. Throughout the show Lapis is still learning how to live outside of being trapped somewhere. She makes bad decisions.#Because she's like. A person. And shouldn't be expected to always be perfect and moral and right#<<< I think I can say that to a lot of criticisms of characters in this show#Sorry holy fuck Steven Universe posting in the year 2023??? Insane#Sjsjsjsj#Steven Universe#SU#Android.txt
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meowloudly15 · 1 year
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THIS GETS ME EVERY TIME I SEE IT
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usereddie · 2 months
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hi so I just looked up what proship means. and I just wanted to ask if you like/support incest or pedophilia ships?
i support uncensored media. does that mean i like all of it? no. do i believe it’s important it exists and continues to exist? yes.
you don't have to like/support "problematic" content to believe it shouldn't be censored. censorship affects all of us, but especially lgbt and poc creatives. it starts with the things that everyone agrees is bad — no one, not even the people who read underage, thinks harming kids is okay in any capacity.
but it never stops there. it doesn't stop at underage or incest or rape. once a corporation realizes it has your stamp of approval to censor shit, they'll keep going until it's a white cishet conservative's dream. nothing queer, nothing where poc struggles are a focal point and it's talking negatively about white people and white supremacy. no sex. no sex no matter how vanilla. that's a problem. everyone, especially people who fall into marginalized identities, should be really, really against that.
this purity culture that's started to run rampant in fandom, this need to sanitize everything, to make sure everything exists very neatly within the box of Morally Right is harmful. fiction is not inherently good or bad because it's not real.
reading about siblings having sex doesn't actually hurt anyone, neither does writing it.
this shame surrounding taboo sexual topics, though?
that hurts people. that hurts kids. purity culture is spreading in fandom but it didn't start here. people are so worried about being "morally good" about media that has no moral responsibility in the first place that they completely ignore the real life repercussions of telling children that talking about sex is wrong, that if you've ever had thoughts that don't align with the purity mindset that you're gross, that if something ever happens to you you shouldn't talk about it, that if something happens to you and, in your trauma, it becomes something you're into in a consensual, pro-kink context that you're dirty.
the vast majority of people i know and have seen both online and in person with rape or ageplay kinks are victims of sexual abuse.
fiction is a comfort and it's allowed to be no matter how weird someone else thinks it is.
no one's telling you you need to go on ao3 dot com right now and filter everything with "underage". no one's telling you to make nsfw fanart of siblings if you don't want to. the point of being pro-ship is that you're in favor of people doing what they want with fiction. i know it's got "pro" in the name, but the point of being pro-ship is to be anti censorship.
(and, yeah, i ship the brothers from supernatural.)
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jamieenthusiast · 29 days
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This is a genuine question, what constitutes proshipping?
As far as I know proshipping is just pro ship? Where you believe people can ship what they want even if you don’t enjoy it or don’t want to interact (kind of like an overall non harassment label)
If im wrong about this correct me, im just confused on how it’s a bad thing
Proshipping isnt just "I believe you can ship whatever even if I dont like it" Proshipping as a label is a term used to tell people "I believe you can ship whatever even if its abusive, incestual or pedophilia" i personally dont mind if people ship something I dont like what i DO mind and DONT fuck with is people shipping an abuser with their victim because "if the abuser was literally entirely different then theyd be so cute together"
or shipping a child with an adult because "okay but if they were the same age itd be cute"
or shipping family because "if they werent related it be adorable"
or in worse cases they just straight up romanticize, sexualize or fetishize abuse, pedophilia and/or incest.
The two common excuses/explanations ive seen are 1 some people use it to cope so its good for them 2 I dont condone it irl so its fine To which I say, I actually dont find any fucking comfort in people changing abusive relationships or romanticizing it so that "yay its cute now <3" ive seen artists/people engage in some of these things but its VERY clear that its fucking WRONG. They demonize the hell out of the problematic part making it clear that its not okay Whereas proshippers (especially in this situation) are just going "theyre cute together idc" and romanticizing and NORMALIZING things like incest, abuse and pedophilia WHICH IS NOT OKAY. Which is why even if you dont condone it irl you shouldnt support, promote or engage in that shit where vulnerable people (rather by current mental state or young) could see it and get desensitized to it and either become complacent in their horrible situation or hurt someone later. Also not as strong as the other points but if you tell me "yeah I ship this brother and sister who are also in a somewhat abusive/toxic relationship already" I dont care if you dont support it irl I think youre fucking gross for romanticizing that.
genuinely hope this helps cause I know for awhile years back I didnt know what proshipping was and was like "wait huh? but i support shipping i like shipping" Proshipping is NOT for general shipping :')
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writing-in-sin · 2 months
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KAISHIN OPINION: BLOOD BOUND
I'm not a fan of the whole cousins reveal because of how very crass its handled in terms of plot especially since this series has been around for almost 30 years. In terms of storytelling, I'm not a fan of how its handled
But generally speaking to them being cousins? I'm neutral/okay with it. I'm not from the West and as I've mentioned before, I'm Asian so the whole cousins being lovers is while not common, it isn't illegal in my culture or country
If its anyway discouraged for cousins to marry its simply to avoid any potential illness for their children but other than that? There's usually no moral discourse
In fact, I was the one startled to realise years ago that its illegal for cousins to marry in the West. At least here where I am, its kinda normal to have cousins as your crushes growing up. Or even marry them in some cases
But since its incest in most of the West then I'll respect that. Please block me or any KaiShin posts you dont wish to see
Anyways! I read on twitter just now on how that since KaiShin are cousins in the movie, they are not nor will they ever be strangers anymore because they are literally blood bound
No matter where they are or what they do, they are connected with a literal red blood string of fate
To some fans, shipping them with this in mind would be disgusting or immoral. But to those who are okay or grew up in an environment/culture of cousins being together as a legal thing, its actually pretty romantic
So yeah, whether we ship them as cousins or not, its up to the shippers (to those who still want to ofc)
For me? While my fanworks will remain them as NOT COUSINS unless warned otherwise, I'll ship KaiShin no matter what, now and forever
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As always, thank you so much for your time and for reading this far. If you’d like to specifically see more KaiShin or DCMK, you can find me on my this side account here on Twitter @ moonlit_death
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zeroducks-2 · 8 days
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Zero you mentioned hating on people who get prissy about people shipping characters they dont actively ship and it sparked a LONG burning question of mine concerning bias shipping culture in Batfam fandom. Fans who attack and complain and make a big show of hating on ‘batcest’ ships ARE SO DUCKING HYPOCRITICAL OH MY LORD. I don’t understand why it’s considered okay to ship Dick x Barbara or Barbara x Bruce, or Steph x Tim. But seen as a cardinal sin to ship Jason x Dick, or Jason x Tim or Bruce x Dick??? Especially when the only argument antishippers make is ‘that’s gross their brothers/father and son and that’s incest 😤’. I’m sorry? Did you not just post nsfw Dickbabs content? Did DC not make Steph and Tim romantic love interests? Is that not incest too? Considering the fandom classifies all of them as family, and in a lot of fan spaces and fanfics, are they not interacting and being written as a family unit? I see SO many people blog about Bruce seeing Babs as his first daughter, or being making weird headcanons on Bruce and Steph’s relationship and donning it ‘tired uncle!Bruce and weird niece!steph core’. Like you obviously see them connected to Bruce through familial ties, and yet you’re okay with them dating Dick and Tim who are legally adopted by Bruce and who are also known as his sons? The irony. The hypocrisy. The ducking mockery of it all. Personally, I don’t think the issue that antishipper have is the ‘incest’ part but rather the ‘gay’ part of it all. Game of Thrones taught me that the general public actually don’t care about fictional incest between characters as long as it’s not between two male characters. Because lord forbid the’s a couple of queers in media.
I have been talking about this many times and I have no qualms talking about it some more:
✨ IT'S NOT INCEST, YALL JUST HOMOPHOBIC ✨
The whole idea around "batcest" makes no sense. These are people who did not grow up together, aren't related and never even lived under the same roof. Incest is not a spectrum, incest means sexual intercourse with a relative within the prohibited degree of consanguinity, consanguinity means BLOOD RELATIONSHIP, and these people DO NOT HAVE IT.
But even then, they are a bunch of hypocrites because I have not ever seen anyone batting an eye over Dickbabs or Timsteph (or Jaybabs, or Timbabs - yeah depending on the time period or the media, poor Babs has been passed around a lot). Their relationship is the exact same as the boys' when it comes to shared experiences. Steph has even been a Robin. But nobody cares because 1, DC is not pushing the "family rhetoric" with the girls all that much since they treat them as lower importance characters (when they're there at all), and 2, it's not queer relationships.
And this is ultimately what makes me go insane about queer kids parroting anti bullshit. Censorship is the weapon used by bigots to criminalize, punish and ultimately erase queer people from existence, it takes to study queer history for five minutes to understand this. You can see it happening in every fandom space where every type of queer ship gets put through some sort of moral sieve, and they WILL find reasons why it's unethical to ship it. Did you know that now shipping Dick/Wally is problematic because "Wally has a wife" ? So basically they're turning the very reason why fandom was born (exploring something different from the standardized heteronormative/amatonormative way of doing everything when it comes to narrative) into something pRoBLeMaTiC.
And these little fucking idiots keep spouting queerphobic nonsense while feeling morally righteous, not understanding that they are playing the game of the same people who if they could would shoot them in the street for being anything but straight and cis. And I'm not even taking into consideration the amount of harassment that comes from antis who think bullying and suibaiting someone over the perceived honor of fictional characters is okay.
BTW it's working. Just to name one, tumblr is not even doing its little rainbow capitalism number this year, because it's not a good look to be queer friendly anymore. Antis are helping the people who want us dead get to a spot where being anything but "normal" is illegal. When it happens, and if we keep going the way that we are now it will happen, it's going to be their fault too.
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patchwork-crow-writes · 9 months
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Thoughts on Kris x Ralsei
This is so long I had to split it up into parts - this is Part 1, which looks into how the roles that Kris and Ralsei are given contributes to the idea of their romance. As more parts are written, they'll be linked below in this handy-dandy TOC!
Part 1: And They Lived Happily Ever After <- (You Are Here!) Part 1.5: I Believe Your Choices DO Matter Part 2: A Pair of Star-Cross'd Lovers Part 2.5: In Another World, We Could Have Been (Just) Friends
Okay, so.
Wanted to elaborate a bit on my viewpoint of this ship, because I don't think it's something I've ever really discussed before and I think it's actually a very interesting dynamic (or at least has the potential to be, depending on where the rest of Deltarune goes).
So, Kralsei is cute, isn't it? It's fun to hug the fluffy boy and watch him melt into incomprehensible stuttering and blushing. All the little signs he's really, really into Kris, all the cute little snippets of dialogue you can initiate with him, all the alone time they spend together, in both chapters... honestly, the game makes it hard not to root for this pairing.
And yeah, it's cute... in a very surface-level, don't-think-about-it-too-hard kind of way. But once you start thinking about it... hoo boy. There is. A LOT to unpack here. So much more is going on just under the surface, and once you see it, it's difficult to un-see it. And in my opinion, it makes the Kralsei dynamic so much more nuanced, more compelling, and potentially quite tragic.
Now, a disclaimer: it's fine to like this ship on a surface level. No real harm is being done, these are fictional characters and it doesn't matter what reason you enjoy it for - if it provides comfort to you and gets you through, then more power to you! This is more me sorting through my thoughts on the subject and is not a judgment on how others approach it. With that said, and in the spirit of full disclosure, this will go into slightly uncomfortable territory - picking apart the idea of destined love, the deconstruction of common romance tropes, how outside manipulation might play a part, and even the potentially incest-adjacent nature of the relationship. If you don't want to deal with any of that, you can stop reading right now, and that's okay. Please continue to enjoy Deltarune in the manner that is best for you, and thank you for your attention thus far :)
If you're still with me, then please click the read more and we'll get started.
Part 1: And They Lived Happily Ever After
The first thing you have to understand is that Deltarune is utterly determined to cram the notion of Kralsei down the player's throat. The game is not subtle about this in any way, shape or form. Everything from the narration, to the dialogue, to major game events, to item interactions, and even the roles that Kris and Ralsei play both in the story and the party, serves to reinforce the notion that these two are very likely to end up romantically involved with each other in some way.
Let's look at the characters first. Kris is portrayed as the noble knight - stoic, unwavering, courageous, a natural leader - clad in medieval-inspired plate armour and wielding a sword and shield. And Ralsei is the archetypal princess - demure, dainty, kindhearted, nurturing - who uses magic to heal his allies and pacify enemies.
I did not mistype there - Ralsei is a prince, but the characteristics associated with him are more commonly found amongst female healers in JRPGs. Think Fina from Skies of Arcadia, or Marle from Chrono Trigger (minus the temperment), and you might have an idea of what I'm on about.
Think of knights and princesses for a moment. Imagine St. George slaying the dragon to save a helpless damsel. Imagine Lancelot and Gwenevere. Robin Hood and Maid Marion. Link and Zelda. Squall and Rinoa. Every single fairy tale involving an imperilled princess and a knightly rescuer. For a more modern take, imagine The Bodyguard. Ness and Paula. I could go on, but then we'd be here all day.
Suffice it to say that there is a pretty entrenched tradition surrounding these archetypes - a male-coded, phsyically-adept, courageous, stoic, action-oriented figure, is paired with a female-coded, magically-adept (depending on the medium of course), less-physically-capable by comparison, emotional, and more passive foil. The (male-coded) knight protects and rescues, the (female-coded) princess nurtures and soothes.
It is a very, VERY emotionally-charged dynamic, by its very nature. Through their acts of service to their protectee, the Knight displays their devotion and care for the Princess, and is in turn emotionally-enriched and cared-for. There is a great deal of physical and emotional vulnerability between them, and it is therefore ideal for romance stories.
Look at Kris and Ralsei again, through this lens. Kris is immediately put into the role of Knight, and Ralsei quickly establishes himself as a classic Princess. Almost instantly, before you've even become aware of it, you've made the connection - they're going to fall in love, because that's what ALWAYS happens in these stories. Ralsei supports and encourages Kris, both in dialogue and in battle, and Kris...
...Kris, uh...
...they...
...hug Ralsei sometimes...?
...they... they give him a ribbon...?
...no, that can't be right.
But it is right, for two reasons. One, Kris doesn't have to do anything. The roles are already established, and Ralsei is playing his part like a pro. And two, Kris doesn't do any of those things in the first place - you do. It's the player who hugs Ralsei, who gives him the ribbon, who picks the dialogue options, who makes the connections. You're the Knight in this scenario, not Kris.
Because Kris doesn't get to make that choice. Kris has to do what you tell them to do. And many of us have already jumped to the conlusion that this romance is happening, becuase that's what always happens. The Knight and the Princess fall in love. They get married. They live happily ever after.
So we ship them, because hey, it's cute, and it's easy. I can't stress enough how easy the game makes this. I'm fairly convinced that Ralsei was designed by comittee, like the Funzo toy in that one episode of the Simpsons. Like he was created with the sole purpose of being the most disgustingly adorable, lovable, awkward little cinnamon bun that ever existed. Like he was created to generate the maximum emotional response in players. It's the cuteness response dialled up to 11, and we are almost hard-wired to want to protect this little bundle of fluff from any and all danger, because lookit how sweet and adorable he is! The glasses make his eyes look all big, his fluffiness is reminscent of that of baby animals, he stutters and fumbles his way through dialogue, and you just want to scoop him up and put him in your pocket or something.
And so, we're more than happy to fulfil the role of the Knight to Ralsei's Princess. Whether Kris actually wants to or not. Because it does become increasingly obvious that outside of our influence, Kris is still their own person, with their own goals and desires, but no real agency with which to pursue them. Would that we could know what they truly want, but we are never presented with an opportunity to find out.
The thing is, Kris is not particularly... knightly. They play pranks on their friends, they swipe sweet treats from their mother, they seem to enjoy getting a rise out of people, and particularly from Asriel, if the story about "dropping the lizard into the pit to jump higher" is any indication. They sleep through class, yet by Berdly's grudging admission they are the "third smartest in the class". The only reason they go to church is so they can drink the "sick fruit juice". They don't seem to have any issue with prank-calling their mom, while she's taking about them with their tutor, while they're standing just out of sight, while they're balancing a trash orb on their head.
Nothing about this behaviour screams "Knight." If anything, it would make more sense for Kris to have become a Rogue-type character upon entering the dark world. So the question remains - why is Kris forced into that role? And to what extent is the seemingly "fated" romance between Kris and Ralsei part of that role?
Folks, we have barely scratched the surface here. If I keep writing here this will become a novel, so I have to stop for everyone's sanity. But I will follow up soon, looking into the ideas of Purpose and Destiny and how they relate to Kralsei in-game. If you've stuck with me up to this point, let me just say thanks, because wow I wrote a lot here, and it's probably a bit rambly and says the same things two or three times, but I just. Had to get this onto the page in some way or another, so... here it is.
Thanks for reading, and see you in the next one :)
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wc-confessions · 18 days
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I have to agree about the reddit for this series being toxic. The main one anyway, the dawn patrol one is okay but sometimes they do talk about weird things like the cats doing the deed to have kits so ehhhh…????
But yeah. I was in the warrior cats reddit for a bit and it was just like the anon said. There’s also always this person that will belittle and come after ANYONE who mentions they don’t like Squilf, Sandstorm, or Leafpool, and this person also has said they (incest tw) ship Squilf and Leafpool together because it’s “non offending”…. Yeah not great……. The person gives me big creeps because they constantly refer to these 3 cats as “queens” or “gods” and does HUGE paragraph replies to people who say they don’t like or favor those 3…..
Also posts are repetitive, mods don’t do anything about bad people yeah (like the person I talked about above, literally there was a thread where a mod jumped in while people questioned why the person wasn’t banned and the mod covered their ass saying we should report the offending posts and to this day that person is STILL in the reddit group???), it takes forever for mods to delete posts that offend the rules, kids run around interacting with dangerous adults who AGAIN ARENT BANNED FOR SOME REASON, and yeah. I would recommend people stay away from it. The Wings of Fire reddit is MILES better and THE MODS ACTUALLY DO THEIR JOBS.
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a-flickering-soul · 2 years
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Are we just going to ignore that the flashback after the credits of Goncharov 1973 implied that Katja and Sofia came from the same orphanage before Katja was adopted into a wealthy family? And no "Sofia is literally what Katja could've been." is not the point I'm trying to make here. I’m sorry but if you ship Katja/Sofia, please realize that it’s incest. Bad and wrong! You are shipping two (probably) foster sisters together, one if them being adopted and the other not knowing doesn't stop the fact they are sisters. I don't care if they aren't biologically related. It's fucking weird. It's also weird how people ship any girls that interact together, just because two gals don't hate each other's guts and they interact somewhat positively doesn’t mean they are in love with each other or want to fuck. Also in some cultures it's normal to kiss each other platonically on the mouth! If you ship Sofia/Katja you are actually xenophobic and acephobic and ableist! If you want positive gay rep goncharov x andrej is RIGHT THERE!
Okay, there's a lot here. Let's unpack all of. this. together, right now.
First off, your argument that Katja/Sofia is pseudo-incest because they came from the same orphanage is so far beyond false equivalencies that it's nonsensical entirely. If you think simply because two children are raised close to each other, their relationship is incest, you are so far beyond "out of touch" that you're on the moon. For god's sake, wait till you learn about schools.
Second off, it is hilarious that you are telling ME that it's weird people ship any girls that look at each other for longer than a second because first off, I did my fucking time as a femslash shipper (AND closeted lesbian, might I add) in the 2010s media landscape. It is my god-given right to sexualize looks between women. Second off, you reducing Katja and Sofia's dynamic to "girls that interact together and don't hate each other's guts" you are so WRONG worstie you are so incredibly wrong because like....when Sofia tells Katja "I know you as intimately as my blood knows the curves of my heart"? Whe Katja lied to Goncharov about having a lighter on her but she pulled one out of her pocket for Sofia? I literally have to laugh. If a man and a woman did this, it would be read as romantic from the start. Just because it's two women doesn't make it any less romantic, and frankly it says a lot about you immediately desexualizing and de-eroticizing the very homoerotic interactions between two women than it does about me.
Finally. FINALLY. The absolutely hilarious statement you made that "If you want positive gay rep goncharov x andrej is RIGHT THERE!" POSITIVE GAY REP GONCHAROV/ANDREJ? THE TWO MEN THAT SWORE A BLOOD OATH TO DIE TOGETHER? THE TWO MEN THAT HAD A WHOLE ANCHOVY SCENE? THESE TWO MORALLY GRAY ASSHOLES OF GUYS?? Ohhhh yeah. Yeah. If that's the ship you're calling your sweet little sunshine babies or whatever the fuck, just watch Teletubbies or something, because clearly you aren't equipped with the critical thinking skills OR sexy, sexy sulci you need to understand Katja/Sofia. I rest my fucking case.
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Hello! This might be long, so feel free to ignore ig
I've almost always been very neutral in the proship argument, I think people should be allowed to ship stuff, but obviously, I don't really ship incest, ya know?
Well, now I'm questioning my stance because I've been shipping "pro-ship" ships recently, so... yeah, crisis time
I dint really know what to do, I don't feel welcome in proship spaces (not cuz I think you're bad people) but because I'm friends with SO many antis, and because I don't ship incest (I'm in fact very uncomfortable with it due to trauma) and I have my limits with other problematic stuff, but I'm not an anti cuz I think people should be allowed to engage in media and characters however they want, but I don't want to stay neutral cuz I ship pro ships! (Only minor stuff, like toxic pairings and some age gap stuff, but I've delved into underage, and I think I like it? Idk)
I also don't know the difference between proship, comship, and darkship, idk if there's anything else I should know, idk if I count as proship because there's stuff I'm not comfortable with, IDK
I'd rather get advice from accepting proshippers than judgmental antis cuz they'll just tell me not to engage
Okay, so, to break it down:
Proship- Don't nessecarily ship it. This is not a type of ship, it's an adjective, and it simply means that the person who is proship believes other people should be allowed to ship whatever they want as long as they don't bring it IRL. You can be uncomfortable, but you still think other people can enjoy it.
Comship- Complex Ships, aka taboo ships. Incest, pedophilia, etc.
Darkship- Abusive ships, dark romance, mafia romance, stalker romance, etc. (The definition of this might change, depending on who you're talking to)
So, you are proship. 100%. If you dislike the title though, you can say you're neutral.
You don't have to like all, or even any, comships to be a proshipper.
Hope this helps!
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voxofthevoid · 4 months
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you're well known to be a fantastic goyuu author. do you think you will ever write for other pairings in the jjk fandom, perhaps for itafushi?
Wait, hold up—
you're well known to be a fantastic goyuu author
I'M WHAT???
I'm...gonna be so normal about that. Yeah. Okay.
(I'm melting actually. Vox.exe has crashed.)
Re your question: My ao3 doesn't have any non-goyuu JJK fics for now, but I've written a few of them. All of them also have goyuu, so it's poly, typically V-types (e.g., goyuu and nanaita, but not nanago). You can find them here: chosoita+goyuu, nanaita+goyuu, sukuita+goyuu. Those links may not work on the mobile app though; you'd need to use a browser.
Re itafushi, I now have two ideas (more than the one it was when @thisdepravedsoul asked this question last month):
You know that new official art of Megumi? The magazine cover?
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That did things to me, so I outlined a fic where Yuuji sees Megumi like that post-mission, gets a little gropey, and they fuck in a haunted school or something, followed by goyuu where Gojou sees what was done to Megumi and comes to sample the goods (Yuuji). The other one involves Gojou dubconning Megumi until Yuuji finds them accidentally and then offering him to Yuuji (who's oblivious to the dubcon aspects).
I do have several more fics with non-goyuu ships planned/outlined. They all also have goyuu because that's my center of interest in JJK, and it's pretty rare for me to write more than one ship at all. Yuuji has so many interesting relationships that I can't help it. Here's the current list, sorted by ship:
On top of the usual goyuu warnings, CWs include incest, dubcon/noncon, and implied MCD. The ships discussed are nanaita and sukuita, but Choso/Yuuji, Kenjaku/Yuuji, and Higuruma/Yuuji are mentioned.
Nanaita (plus goyuu):
oldest story ever told (hold me till we both go cold): Yuuji has complicated sexual relationships with Nanami and Gojou that are on the verge of either imploding or becoming more when Shibuya happens.
and every step forward put a little more sword in your heart: No-Shibuya post-canon AU where Yuuji's been pining after Gojou for years, he and Nanami have drunken sex, and it escalates from there on all fronts.
out of my head, into the nature: Vampire AU where Yuuji resurrects after the detention center with vampiric features; Gojou's only too happy to lend a vein, and Nanami gets roped into it despite his better judgement.
blood, lust, and a holy war: Gojou's the devil and Nanami's the angel on Yuuji's shoulder, and he fucks them both. The size is a bit of an issue at first, but they make do.
saints just swimming in our sins again: Established goyuu and nanaita where Nanami gets deaged, Yuuji tries to keep his hands to himself, and Gojou works very hard to make sure teen!Nanami gets some TLC.
Sukuita (plus goyuu):
of all the deadly sins, he's lucky seven: Omegaverse with omega!Sukuna/alpha!Yuuji and alpha!Gojou/alpha!Yuuji where Sukuna yanks Yuuji into his inndate domain to ride out his heat, and Yuuji's body autopilots its way into Gojou's asshole.
what does the poem of a killer say when it's written in the blood of the prey: Gojou and Sukuna are both gods and Yuuji’s a dragon-human hybrid who semi-accidentally tumbles into both their beds, separately. Fifty shades of monsterfucking.
no psychotherapy will ever relieve the hunted needing: Modern reincarnation AU where Sukuna’s reborn as Yuuji’s younger brother, and it takes everything Yuuji has not to smother him in his bed; it escalates into something very different. Then Gojou’s thrown into the mix as Yuuji’s high school upperclassman.
one day, the only butterflies left will be in your chest (as you march towards your death, breathing your last breath): Apocalyptic post-canon AU where Gojou doesn't get unsealed, Sukuna plays cat and mouse with everyone until only Yuuji's left, and they hate-fuck while Yuuji guards a weakening Prison Realm.
There are also a few others featuring Choso/Yuuji, Kenjaku/Yuuji, and Higuruma/Yuuji, one each for all three ships, but the bulk of my goyuu-plus ideas are nanaita and sukuita.
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Man, I just wish there wouldn't be any antis in the Jojo fandom. Like the manga and the anime has so many fucked up stuff in it, I don't know how this could attract antis. It has horror, yandere, a bit of incest, non-con/rape (non-con is in a part where the whole story became seinen instead of shonen) in it.
And the thing that people get harrassed for shipping a 15 year old and an 18 year old to the point that someone committed suicide on twitter? Luckily the person got saved but the one who led the harrassment campain just shrugged it off and shifted the blame on the mob. Disgusting.
Also not that long ago I found a blog here, that posts tiktoks from the Jojo fandom (obviously under the video it's linked to where it was found so you could find it on tiktok, so it's credited) and I just looked at the cool cosplay videos on the blog, didn't think about anything. I saw that you could submit some tiktoks (with credit of course) and I was just curious about the "rules" for this. And what do I see? DNI. What does that shit contains? That if you're interested in yandere, "then you should touch Rolling Stone" Okay this sounds pretty funny without context, and yes it is kind of stupid, but that things power is that it follows someone who's fated to die a short time, and if that person touches it, they kill themselves. So yeah that blog basically suibaited others for fictional content –.–
that’s so fucked up
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1. No ableist are allow. I'm autistic and have ADHD, depression, and anxiety. Don't you like me being autistic? Get out! You're not welcome here. ( No transphobic, Non-binaryphobia (Mun is Non-binary), etcetera hate toward anyone groups. ) 2. Just because this blog is 18+ doesn't mean Nsfw/Smut. There will be nsfw/Smut rarely, but I mostly want to be around adults. Okay? 3. Personal blogs are allowed to rp as long as you aren't weird or a minor. Also, don't reblog rambles. 4. I'm picky when it comes to shipping. I'm tired of being a back burner and all happy until it gets sucked out of me. 5. Nonmutuals are open to everything but shipping. Sorry, but I don't feel comfortable. 6. I'm not a pro-shiper or anit... I'm a common-sense shipper. This means I ship adult characters with characters (No incest characters). basically keeping characters in their own lane. Aging up kids/minors characters so they can be shipped with adults makes very uncomfortable. DON'T FUCKING TRY IT ON ME!
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