My Spiderman 4 Story Theory
SO I'M BACK! For who knows how long
Anyways, I've done some thinking, and Spiderman 4's story has ALREADY BEEN HINTED AT / REVEALED. And no, I'm not talking about Scorpion's post credits scene from Homecoming. I'm talking about bread crumbs located in Avengers: Infinity War, and it all begins with one exchange...
"Are you talking about Footloose?"
"Yes! Is it still the greatest movie of all time?"
"It never was."
In case it wasn't clear in Guardians Of The Galaxy and Infinity War, Footloose is a very, very important movie to Peter Quill. It governs a lot of his behavior, and in fact it's the reason he beat Ronan the Accuser in Guardians Of The Galaxy. And here, he faces the illusion shattering as he realizes it's not the greatest movie of all time. What do you do when your whole world shatters?
My theory is this: Peter Quill has lost everything now, and he's going to be confused as he suddenly has the free time to contemplate Footloose. He will rewatch it, and you know what? It is the greatest movie of all time!
And in Spiderman 4 he will hunt down Peter Quill to put an end to this madness. Spiderman 4's main villain is Peter Quill, AKA Star Lord, and Peter Parker will have to face his greatest challenge yet: fighting someone he ounce considered an ally, nay, a friend
This has been your inconsistent Clock Talk, have a great day!
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Spider-Man Home Turf: My Pitch for Tom Holland's Next Spider-Man Movie
With the success of the original trilogy and a promise of 9 films in total, another Tom Holland Spider-Man film is imminent.
Although the writers strike is still going on (PAY YOUR WRITERS DISNEY), currently the next Spider-Man film is in early development and slated for 2025. That will likely be pushed back, but the idea of Spider-Man 4 is incredibly intriguing.
This film is not only a continuation of Peter's story, but a restart for him as well. There's a lot of potential for new characters, new story, and a different version of Spidey than what came before.
I have a pitch, one that takes whats great about Watts original trilogy, and I think brings Peter to a place we've never seen him go in live action.
This is not a script, just more so a general idea for the movie. I do have ideas for characters and casting though!
*Spoilers for the MCU in general and all Spider-Man movies*
Let's start with what I love about Watts trilogy:
Something/Someone New Everytime
Whether you love or hate these movies, one must admit every film felt different than what came before. Whether it was the John Hughes high school element, a road trip through Europe, or a multiversal magic finale, none of the films felt like Webbs or Raimis, but something fresh instead.
With the exception of No Way Home, the movies also focused on villains we had not seen before. Vulture, Mysterio, Shocker, The Thinker, all classic villains that never got their time in the light. I like that trend, and want to continue it.
The Mentor
One of the fun things about these movies for me is Peter gets a mentor to match his internal problem at hand. The best part is the mentor is usually kind of bad at it, leading Peter to come to his own conclusions and move beyond them to become an even better hero.
The character needs to make sense in the context of the story, be flawed, and most importantly, connected to the MCU in a way we've seen before.
Love Story
I like all the Peter/MJ & Peter/Liz stuff in all the movies. With MJ and Ned gone now, we're gonna want a new character for Peter to fall for. Again, I'd prefer someone we have never seen before, who can become a fan favorite in their own right.
With all that out of the way, here is the idea:
Peter Parker, now struggling to find any joy in his normal life, spends most of his time fighting crime as your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. He will be in the suit for most of the movie, completely neglecting his normal life, as he feels there is nothing for him there.
Because there are not as many big world ending threats or villains to fight, in order to fill up his life, he has begun taking out portions of the mysterious Kingpins operations, to the dismay of Wilson Fisk.
Kingpin will be one of our main villains of the movie. In this film, Fisk will have secondary goons The Tinkerer, who you may remember from Spider-Man Homecoming, creating gear for his men:
And an enforcer, a menace hoping to one day take on even more power than he already has, Hammerhead.
Hammerhead is a brawler, who can be conniving and slimey. I want someone likable but borderline annoying. Someone who can trade blows and quips and really have some fun against Spider-Man.
Personally, I think who better than Saul Goodman himself Bob Odenkirk, but I'll leaving casting up to someone else.
After a huge fight with Hammerhead and Fisk goons, Spider-Man will be approached by a vigilante he has never seen before.
Enter the mentor. What character better to warn Peter of the dangers of balancing the vigilante life than Matt Murdock?
Unlike mentors before, Daredevil will actually be an extremely positive force for Peter. He will show him the value of balance and the danger of going too into the darkness of being a vigilante.
Daredevil will warn Spider-Man that messing with organized crime without understanding it leads to a power vacuum and desperation, which leads to more danger for civilians. Peter will not listen, which will lead to our actual big bad of the film:
Mr Negative.
Martin Li will be a young newer type of crime boss. With his inexperience will come chaos, and with his power will come war.
I do not have a casting for him, as I feel this character should be a new Chinese actor. Someone relatively young and menacing.
He is joined by his gang the Inner Demons, who will be former members of the Hand who needed a leader when the five fingers fell, and his right hand man and enforcer, The Scorpion.
Some may forget, this character was introduced in Spider-Man Homecoming played by Michael Mando, which I love immensely. I want him geared up, in the suit, using that seem fierce energy he had in his post credit scene.
Seeking to gain financially from the commotion of this gang war will be cat burglar Felicia Hardy.
If Matt is the angel on Peter's shoulder, Felicia will be the Devil on Spideys.
Felicia will also be escaping her past through her persona of The Black Cat, and will serve as temptation for Spider-Man to leave Peter Parker behind.
While she is trying to convince him to move on and just be Spider-Man, Black Cat does have Peter's best interest at heart. I want a flawed but good person here, who will round out team Spidey.
I'd like an actress who maybe feels a tad older than Peter.
My mind jumps to Anya Taylor Joy, but I'm open to suggestions.
Throughout the film, Peter will learn about balance from both Black Cat and Daredevil, how the criminal organizations came to power, and how to properly take them down to save New York.
And with all that comes the pitch:
While trying to clean up the streets Peter Parker accidentally opens the door to a gang war between super powered Mr. Negative and the dangerous Kingpin, leaving the streets of New York desperate for a hero. With the help of new allies Daredevil and the Black Cat, Spider-Man must learn what it takes to save his city.
Spider-Man Home Turf would put Peter at the center of gang war, (something we've never seen), fighting alongside Daredevil (a new mentor), and with a love interest not for Peter but for Spider-Man (a new and different love story).
It would also keep Peter in New York, something the Watts movies did not do enough of, and at the center of the best parts of the Netflix Marvel universe.
It's big enough to feel like Spider-Man, and small enough to be the start of something new.
I think Spider-Man can benefit from a smaller start. Seeing Spidey fighting on the streets of New York is all a fan really wants.
But as long as it's not the clone saga, I will be happy.
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