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sproutflags · 5 months
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Jewish Genders + Jewish Labor Bund combo flags. Made for my fellow intersex anti-Zionist Bundist Jews.
Original Androgynos, Tumtum, Saris, and Ay'lonit flags can be found here.
Curious about Jewish Bundism? This post breaks it down pretty well here. TL;DR Bundism is an old Jewish labor/socialist movement seeing a resurgence in recent years among anti-Zionist, pro-Palestine, leftwing Jews.
Fuck Zionists and Free Palestine. If you clown on this post you will be blocked.
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orshorishim · 2 years
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My first go. For sure not a final draft. A flag for Jewish gender diversity. Each color stands for one of the 6 genders listed in the Talmud. A. The Aleph ( א) stands for Androgynos (androgynous). It also stands for Adamah which means earth, and comes from the word dam which means blood (red). It is the first letter in the name adam which means earthling. Adam according to the talmud had both sexes and was an androgynos. Aleph is also the first letter of the alphabet so I put it on the far right where Hebrew begins B. The Hamsa upright is for protection (other way around is for abundance) and it is for Aylonit, or feminine person that takes on masculine characteristics. It is also a symbol which connects all middle eastern and north African peoples C. The olive branch is for the Saris or masculine individual who takes on feminine characteristics, in the torah it is said that a saris is not "a dry tree" so I chose here to show a branch fruitful with peace and abundance. D. the upright triangle is for Zachar meaning masculine, it comes from the word zachor meaning memory or name (like on a family tree) so it is green to denote a tree E. The purple triangle is for Nekivah or feminine but it is also reminiscent of the Holocaust (pink triangle which LGBT people were forced to wear) a trauma all Jewish people share with all LGBT people. By shading it purple I reclaim it as a bridge color between man and woman, Jew and gentile, blue, and red F. The star of David is for Tumtum or for one who is neither masculine nor feminine. It is a combination of both triangles. The talmud tells us that Sarah and Abraham were born Tumtums and it is their line with which all Jewish people trace themselves according to legend. 
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yeehaww-sims · 1 year
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Also if you're still doing flag requests an InterNon flag would also be awesome!! deviantart[.]com/softglitch/art/Intersex-and-Non-binary-InterNon-Flag-919334588
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We meet again Anon! Finished your requests, you can find them Here:
[SFS] | [MF]
[Original flags post]
I also added some flags I did as personal recolours, and some my partner wanted, as I've been sitting on them for a while sdfjkldfskjl
Also if the otherkin anon sees this, I added a couple nonhuman/alterhuman flags to the mix as well! You can find the newly added flags below.
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Arin wanted a bimbo-gendered flag so. Who am I to tell him no. The rest that aren't recent requests are the ones I've had for a while. Also I know Furries aren't alterhuman/otherkin etc but I saw it while looking and threw it in there.
[Plaintext: Bimbogender x2, Term Collector x2, Demiaesthetic, Femme, Femme Lesbian, Enbian [alt flag] Polyamorous x5!, Otter, Nonhuman Unity, Alterhuman x2, Furry, InterNon, Androgynos, Ay'lonit, Saris, Tumtum]
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crossdreamers · 1 year
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Judaism: The Eight Genders in the Talmud
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Rachel Scheimeman takes a look at the understanding of gender and biological sex in the Jewish tradition.
The Talmud, a huge and authoritative compendium of Jewish legal traditions, contains in fact no less than eight gender designations including:
Zachar, male.
Nekevah, female.
Androgynos, having both male and female characteristics.
Tumtum, lacking sexual characteristics.
Aylonit hamah, identified female at birth but later naturally developing male characteristics.
Aylonit adam, identified female at birth but later developing male characteristics through human intervention.
Saris hamah, identified male at birth but later naturally developing female characteristics.
Saris adam, identified male at birth and later developing female characteristics through human intervention.
In fact, not only did the rabbis recognize six genders that were neither male nor female, they had a tradition that the first human being was both. Versions of this midrash are found throughout rabbinic literature, including in the Talmud:
Rabbi Yirmeya ben Elazar also said: Adam was first created with two faces (one male and the other female). As it is stated: “You have formed me behind and before, and laid Your hand upon me.” (Psalms 139:5)
The Rabbis recognized the existence of what we today would call intersex, transgender and nonbinary people, and worked hard to fit them into their legal framework.
Read the whole article here.
See also: Was Jesus transgender?
Illustration: Shutterstock
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anamericangirl · 4 months
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The most highly venerated deity in Ancient Mesopotamia was Inanna, the Queen of Heaven and the goddess of sex, war and justice. She also had the ability to change a person’s gender. This power of Inanna’s, the ability to change a man into a woman and vice versa, is well accounted for in multiple poetry fragments and is indicative of the existence of people living outside the gender binary in ancient Mesopotamia. The words of Enheduanna, Inanna’s High Priestess in the city of Ur in the 23rd Century BCE, attest to this. In her Passionate Inanna she writes, "To destroy, to create, to tear out, to establish are yours, Inanna. To turn a man into a woman and a woman into a man are yours, Inanna."
Her followers and priests were known for their androgyny and blurring or destroying the gender binary. The gender-blurring members of her faith have often been included in poems and dedications written for her, often with Inanna personally transforming the gender of her devotees. One such example is the pilipili, a group of devout performers in Inanna’s Sumerian festivals. The name pilipili is referenced within Passionate Inanna in relation to an individual named pilipili who is transformed by Inanna. They are raised as a woman, the Sumerian for young woman ki-sikil being used to describe them, and Inanna blesses them, handing them a spear ‘as if she were a man’ and renames them pilipili.
In Sumerian times, priests for Inanna known as the gala were said to have been created by the god Enki to sing laments for her, one of their central roles in her temple. From the beginning of the Old Babylonian Period, their role was heavily expanded, and mourning rites originally sung by women replaced over time by members of the gala. Men who joined the priesthood in devotion for Inanna became women for all intents and purposes, adopting female names and singing in the Sumerian eme-sal dialect, reserved for feminine speakers to render the speech of female gods. The gala were heavily involved in her temples, performing elegies and lamentations, presiding over religious rites and healed and looked after the sick and poor. They were respected members of the community, closely related to the care of their community.
Enki is brother to Elil whom would become the basis for the Hebrew god Yahweh. The Hebrews, or Jews, would recognize 8 total genders, 6 of which were beyond the common female (nekevah) and male (zachar) binary known as Androgynos, Tumtum, Aylonit hamah, Aylonit adam, Saris hamah, and Saris adam.
Yeshua, is a Jewish historical figure who would have likely recognized all 8 genders from his faith. He is seen as a prophet from the god Allah by Muslims. But more commonly he is known as Jesus Christ, the Son of God by his followers called Christians.
During his life, Transgenderism was well known by the public, can you tell me what exactly Jesus Christ said on the issue of gender identity?
That's nice but Inanna isn't real so none of that matters.
Those "8 total genders" are not actually 8 different genders but they are all people who were one of the two genders. So either male or female. What people called them doesn't matter because their gender is determined by biology not language.
Jesus Christ recognized only two genders not 8 like you speculate. the Bible never mentions transgenderism or gender identity in any way but the two existing genders are repeatedly recognized. He says in the beginning that he created them "male and female" and that is how gender is continuously expressed throughout the entire Bible.
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will-o-the-witch · 1 year
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Hey, I did some research on Judaism and I found this: Zachar, male.
Nekevah, female.
Androgynos, having both male and female characteristics.
Tumtum, lacking sexual characteristics.
Aylonit hamah, identified female at birth but later naturally developing male characteristics.
Aylonit adam, identified female at birth but later developing male characteristics through human intervention.
Saris hamah, identified male at birth but later naturally developing female characteristics.
Saris adam, identified male at birth and later developing female characteristics through human intervention.
Does this mean that Judiasm early on may have established that there were more than 6 genders?
In Queer Jewish theory it's moreso commonly interpreted as the Talmud recognizing intersex people!
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emperorsfoot · 2 years
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I've mentioned this in some of my posts before, but, because Barney's Jewish identity is equally as important to him as his gender identity, I thought I would share some information on how gender and gender identity are viewed in Judaism.
Disclaimer: Judaism is broken up into different sects just like any other religion, so not all of these beliefs will be universal across all Jewish communities.
The Talmud acknowledges and describes 8 genders
Zachar, male/AMAB/Cisgender Man
Nekevah, female/AFAB/Cisgender Woman
Androgynos, having both male and female characteristics/non-binary/gender fluid/gender non-conforming
Tumtum, lacking sexual characteristics/non-binary/gender fluid/gender non-conforming
Aylonit hamah, identified female at birth but later developing male characteristics naturally
Aylonit adam, identified female at birth but later developing male characteristics through human intervention
Saris hamah, identified male at birth but later developing female characteristics naturally
Saris adam, identified male at birth and later developing female characteristics through human intervention
You might find a lot of sources that will say there are only 6 genders in the Talmud. That is because aylonit hamah and aylonit adam, and saris hamah and saris adam are often lumped together (respectively).
Please enjoy these links with more information!
My Jewish Learning
Religious Action Center
Keshet - Gender Diversity in Sacred Texts
Reform Judaism
And please enjoy this video of an interview with Rabbi Kukla of the Bay Area Jewish Healing Center:
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Disclaimer 2: This post is being made for the Dead End: Paranormal Park fandom. A show who's main character is a Jewish trans-man. The purpose of this post is to educate any non-Jews in the fandom if any of them are interested in being educated, or incorporating Barney's Jewish identity and culture into their fan works. I am not interested in debating gender, religion, or my own religious/cultural or gender identities with anyone. People trying to start discourse on this post will be blocked.
I am, however, always happy to answer questions if it is within my knowledge and experience to give an answer. I am not a Rabbi. I am simply a queer Jewish person who enjoys cartoons and fandom.
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august-beee · 6 months
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Debunking trans talking points
“Judaism recognizes 8 sexes including ones that involve transitioning with human intervention!”
This is one I’ve heard a few times that frustrates me. Most of the people using this argument aren’t even Jewish and do not know what they are talking about. According to google, here are the 8 “sexes”
Zachar-male.
Nekevah-female
Androgynos-having both male and female characteristics, wether because of being born with an intersex variant or being GNC
Tumtum- having little or no sexual characteristics, another intersex variant
Aylonit hamah- a hormonal intersex variant where a woman is born female and develops more masculine sexual characteristics around puberty
Aylonit adam- a hormonal intersex variant where a man is born male and develops more feminine sexual characteristics around puberty
Saris hamah- a male at birth but later naturally develops more feminine characteristics, wether because of sexual disorders or being GNC
Saris adam- a castrated male
Saris adam is the one that most TRAs cite as “a male developing female characteristics through human intervention” due to general ignorance about what it actually is. They either don’t understand or refuse to acknowledge that the “human intervention” part is actually just castration and not being transgender.
Also, there are actually only 6 in the Talmud and, quoting an article I will link at the end of this post, “Based on this list, it seems that the 2 “extra” genders that bumped the number in the JTA article from 6 to 8 came from the bifurcation of saris and aylonit into the hamah and adam subcategories.”
Actual Jewish people have debunked this multiple times but non-Jewish TRAs refuse to listen I guess.
Also, if I got any of this wrong please correct me because I am not Jewish but this is what I have gathered from research on the topic.
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vampdyke69 · 1 year
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cant decide what i want my main url to be pls help
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Sorry if I'm completely misremembering this but - did you do a course/take a module/etc on Queer theology? It may have been exclusively about Judaism? It's a topic of interest for me and Im not sure where to start so Im looking for book/article recs. Apologies if I am in fact remembering incorrectly!
Hi! Sorry this took so long to answer, I was kind of burnt out after graduating. I took a class on LGBT topics in Judaism and Christianity, and several other classes in which gender & sexuality studies and Judaic studies intersected, so I know of a bunch of books and articles on the subject, mostly specific to Judaism.
Vaguely separated into lists of academic/not academic but it's a wishywashy categorization. I hope you find something you want to check out!
Less ~academic~ books:
Torah Queeries: Weekly Commentaries on the Hebrew Bible. This is a great anthology of short essays, often somewhat personal, on queer interpretations of the Bible. I've been meaning to read it all the way through, so far I've only read specific parts relevant to things I studied
Like Bread on the Seder Plate: Jewish Lesbians and the Transformation of Tradition by Rebecca T. Alpert. This book explores the challenges of being a lesbian and a believer in a religion which has anti-lesbian texts and puts forward a model of how to exist as both by facing troubling texts head on
Through the Door of Life: A Jewish Journey between Genders. An autobiography by Joy Ladin, a poet, academic, and Jewish trans woman, who writes about transitioning in relation to the commandment to choose life. Review
Keep Your Wives Away from Them: Orthodox Women, Unorthodox Desires. An anthology of short stories, personal essays, and academic essays. I think the essay "Women Known for these Acts" is the best introduction to lesbianism in Jewish law that I read while studying the topic; you can probably find it solo elsewhere
Balancing on the Mechitza: Transgender in Jewish Community. An anthology of essays ranging from personal to more academic. Review here.
More ~academic~ stuff:
A Rainbow Thread: An Anthology of Queer Jewish Texts from the First Century to 1969 by Noah Sienna. Collects historical writings on Jewish queerness. I have only read parts assigned for class, but it's a major (and new-ish) resource
The Soul of the Stranger: Reading God and Torah from a Transgender Perspective by Joy Ladin. An exploration of using the transgender experience as a lens through which to gain a better, or different, understanding of G-d. Interesting Biblical interpretations similar to Torah Queeries, more fleshed out. Review
Love Between Women: Early Christian Responses to Female Homoeroticism by Bernadette Brooten. Discusses lesbianism in Judaism and early Christianity, arguing that homophobia in Christianity and Judaism has its roots in misogyny
Saul M. Olyan's paper "And with a Male You Shall Not Lie the Lying down of a Woman: On the Meaning and Significance of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13." Includes a breakdown of just how weird the language of the famous prohibition is and summary of previous scholars' interpretations of the passage. The author argues that the prohibition is very limited
Jan Joosten's "A New Interpretation of Leviticus 18:22 (Par. 20:13) and its Ethical Implications," which argues that the prohibition against m/m sex is actually specific to adultery
A lot of Jewish trans works discuss the Rabbinic gender categories of the androgynos and tumtum, as well as the saris and aylonit. Charlotte Fonrobert's paper "Regulating the Human Body: Rabbinic Legal Discourse and the Making of Jewish Gender" is an extremely influential essay on gender categories on Judaism (it's included in 2 of the anthologies above, and was assigned in my classes several times). You'll find a lot of other articles on the subject to explore if you scroll down to the bibliography of this Jewish Women's Archive post "Gender Identity In Halakhic Discourse" (which is written by, surprise!, Fonrobert)
More important Jewish/gender & sexuality studies scholars, who have published many books and essays: Michael Satlow ("They Abused Him Like a Woman": Homoeroticism, Gender Blurring, and the Rabbis in Late Antiquity"), Steven Greeberg (Wrestling with God and Men: Homosexuality in the Jewish Tradition),
General resources:
Check out transtorah.com, their "Resources" tab provides access to poems, sermons, and essays by many people who contributed to the anthologies I've listed, so it's fantastic supplementary material or point of access if you can't get your hands on some of these books
Jewish Women's Archive, mentioned above, is a great resource. Their "LGBTQIA Rights" tag has a lot of interesting posts ranging from essays by activists, personal reflections by queer Jews, biographies of past and present queer Jews, film reviews, etc. Their encyclopedia entry for "Lesbianism" is also a great starting point for the topic
I'm looking through old syllabi and finding way more but tbh I've reached my limit for today. Just know that there's way more! Remember to look at the works cited of things you read to find more things to read!
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torahtot · 1 year
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here r my gripes w the toldot trans sefaria sheet
it keep saying things like "saris has been reclaimed to mean transfemme" and tumtum has been reclaimed to mean nonbinary and aylonit to mean trans man. those are not identity words you can reclaim, they are halachic terms for intersex people + eunuchs used in discussions about halacha for those people. intersex people have not dissapeared and u cant just repurpose those words. make new ones for our own trans halacha
ignores the fact that both adam and noach have more than one named son. it tries to make a point about how every major figure from adam to avraham has a named child, then a bunch of unnamed "sons and daughters," and this separation of the child means they're nonbinary bc they were made in the image of their parent tracing back to adam who we know for sure wasn't binary. this just totally ignores adam having two named sons and noach having three.
this one's silly but it says "masechet yevamoys" pick an accent babe. masechet yevamot or maseches yevamoys dont start mixing things
to be continued after i get home from school
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aikoiya · 2 years
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This is ridiculous! I've been seeing a lot of librals saying that the idea of there only being 2 sexes, man & woman, is a western colonial concept & I'm just like, "Do you have any idea what you're saying?"
The idea of 2 sexes has existed for far longer than colonialism. It's literally in the Bible, which according to the History Channel "the original texts are believed to date back to around 120 A.D. The Book of Judas was found in Egypt in the 1970s," while Big Think says it's "about 3400 years old."
As much as people like to relate Christianity & the Bible to caucasians & the west, the reality is that Christianity & it's sister religions, Judaism & Islamism, all originated in the Middle East. They're called the Abrahamic religions & they're called that because they all split off from the same monotheistic belief system; a.k.a. Judaism. It isn't even just the Middle East, the entire LGBTQ movement is actually the one that's a western concept.
Now, I understand that a lot of Jewish people follow the Talmud for their daily lives & it says that there are 6-8 sexes, but as 1/4 Jewish myself, I don't trust the interprative works of a Babylonian scholar over the closest thing we have to th he word of the Almighty. If I were to choose a Jewish text to follow, it'd be the Torah itself. Yes, the Talmud attempts to interpret the Torah, but honestly, I trust God's actual word far more than I will ever trust some scholar's interpretation of it because it's liable to be affected by personal bias. Not to mention, the laws given in the Talmud were put there by Rabbis, not God's word. Rabbis are just people like everyone else & can therefore make mistakes. There are no mistakes with God.
Also, the Torah contains the first 5 books of the Bible, which were written by Moses, who was following God's word. Making it the closest thing to literally speaking with God ourselves. Meanwhile, the Talmud directly contadicts a few things in the Torah, meaning those things can't be trusted. One such thing is the myth of 6-8 sexes. The Book of Genesis said that "God created man in his image, in the image of God He created him, male and female He created them.” He did not create androgynos, tumtum, aylonit hamah, aylonit adam, saris hamah, or saris adam. The ones who recognize multiple sexes are the Rabbis, not the Torah &, therefore, not God.
But that's just my own personal biased opinion.
However, at the same time, the Talmud can be used to determine that the Jewish people have believed in 6-8 genders for a very long time, which is what this conversation is about to begin with. So, despite my reticence, I'll make allowences for that. It still doesn't invalidate the fact that the Christian people who split off from the Jewish faith believed in a gender binary, which is my argument. Yes, Judaism is older than Christianity, but that's not the point. The point is proving that the belief in 2 sexes, itself, has existed since long before colonialism & that it didn't manifest in the west.
As for intersex, that's an exception, not the rule. And even they have a single, defined sex based on which is more prevalent in the body & which set of genitals are viable, because only one or the other can be fertile.
Now, even if you don't believe in the Bible or its ideals, the important thing here is the timeline & place of origin. The Bible originates from the Middle East (again, can't stress that part enough) far before colonialism. So, no, the concept of there only being 2 sexes is not a construct of western colonialism, nor is being straight something cooked up by white men to 'oppress' people who don't 'fit their narrative.' Because heterosexuality is something that's existed since humanity's foundation or at least since more than 3000 years ago because it's, again, mentioned as being the ideal in the Bible which is theorized to be over 3000 years old & the people who wrote the Bible were not white, say it with me, "NOT WHITE," they were Middle Eastern.
If you want me to use a different example to get my point across, how about China? While I don't like a lot of what they're doing these days, ancient China has a very clear sexual binary. Just look at their philosophies. Especially the concept of yin & yang. EVERYTHING is separated into terms of male & female & Chinese culture is even older than the Bible. It's at least 6000 years old, not to mention an eastern culture. Therefore, my original argument still stands.
Not to mention, sure, people who identify as a sex other than what they were born as have, possibly, existed in pretty much every society since the beginning, but the fact of the matter is that the trans community only makes up 1% of the population & almost all of the rest since the beginning agree that there are only 2 sexes & that they simply could not give a shit.
As Matt Walsh pointed out once, a kitten is thought to only have one head. However, just recently, a kitten was born with 2 heads. Does that mean we should redefine our concept of kittens to suggest that they may have multiple heads simply because of this singular fluke of nature?
The thing is, why is it that we must change the definitions of words to conform to 1% of people? Why change literally everything we know about biology & language in order to coddle the exception? Yes, you're a minority. Yes, your community has suffered, but I refuse to treat you any different than I would anyone else. If you're upset with me not putting you on a pedistal & treating you like glass, then congradulations, you're not looking for equality or respect. You're looking for preference, special treatment, & superiority, which you will not find from me.
You think that includes always getting your 'preferred pronouns' correct even if I don't know them & you not only look a certain gender or sex, but you also wear clothes of that sex. It's called a mistake & if you're too butthurt & sensitive &, honestly, insecure about yourself & your decisions to be able to let such things slide, then maybe the intolerant one here is you.
In fact, these days, straights & especially caucasians are becoming some of the most discriminated against people on Earth just because we're the majority. Newsflash! Discrimination is still discrimination regardless of who it's directed at!
Another thing, why do people get so caught up in pronouns? If gender is a 'social construct of oppression' then why does it matter what someone calls you?
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rarougrougrou · 8 months
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ahh jsuis trop heureux de rencontrer un autre aylonit!! c un mot très bien je pense - le sens littéral est "petit bélier," que tu connais probablement, mais je trouve que c une excellent description d'être transmasc
Omg je croyais littéralement être le seul francophone à connaître ce terme!! A chaque fois que j'en parle à quelqu'un je dois expliquer
De base j'ai découvert le terme pour trouver le titre de la fic que j'écris, et en trouvant la signification générale et à quoi ca a fait référence (je connaissais pas la traduction littérale tho, tu m'apprends quelque chose haha), et du coup j'avais énormément relate au terme (en plus du fait que c'est le titre parfait pour ma fic du coup)
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queer-coining · 9 months
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request: OPEN
Main blog: @it-sans
Plural coining blog: @it-plural-coining
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In queue:
- Internull;
- Interneutral;
- aylonit Adam;
- aylonit hamah;
- saris hamah;
- saris adam;
- intervestite;
- centrgender for intersex (It won't be that name) ;
- Transmasc turian lesbian.
- Non-binary jew flags
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kitchenalia · 2 years
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Would you be willing to share more about the "six genders" described in Judaism or share a link? I'm interested in reading what you're talking about. Thanks!
there are 6-8 "genders" (depending on who you ask, i suppose) defined in the talmud. there's the male/female distinction, but also tumtum ('neutral' or no sex characteristics), androgynos (both male and female sex characteristics), aylonit (a woman who doesn't develop normal sex characteristics associated with puberty), and saris hamah/saris adam (man who doesn't develop normal male sex characteristics associated with puberty; the hamah/adam distinction refers to whether it's natural or if he was castrated). i'm sure you can see where this is going. the descriptions of these "genders" range from spiritual discussions of post-creation humanity (as in, musings on whether the first human had male and female sex organs) to discussing people with disorders of sexual development. reading about them reveals that this was mostly determining whether the male or female aspects of jewish law applied to them and how to categorize infertility, disorders of sexual development, and possibly behavioral non-conformity and/or ritual behaviors like for the saris adam.
you can read the relevant parts of the talmud; these are all about identifying sex and the fact that some cases of doing so were ambiguous or atypical. yet they are all now treated as non-binary identities and i have seen modern jewish people adopt them as descriptors, ignoring that these are really descriptions of DSDs. the only descriptors that would really make sense are aylonit adam (which i believe is a very recent construction) and saris adam, the equivalent of a eunuch. it's strange that these descriptors, which focus so heavily on bodies and fertility in a legal context, are now being rewritten as Totally Awesome Genders.
i wouldn't really budge even if none of the above was true because i do think that gender is a harmful social construction, and that holds true for ancient jewish traditions, too...but it just baffles me that i was yelled at for not accepting these as nb identities (i'm jewish so i guess i am obligated to accept anything a rabbi says at any point?).
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gendertreyf · 1 year
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Can there be flags for saris adam, saris hamah, aylonit adam, and aylonit hamah?
i intended for the flags i made to cover both adam and hamah, for anyone who wants to use them!
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