#bruce wayne: fugitive

[batmanisagatewaydrug]

I hate his dramatic ass this is literally him ending a zoom call. bitch.

[tarucore]

My shipping googles are on but it’s so funny that that you’ve got flashbacks to the ends of bruce’s torrid love affairs, and then on the same page it’s just, dick. leaving for college.

[cleromancy]

AUGHUGUGHGUGH. AUGH

this issue is sosososo good... the guilt! the interplay btwn doubt and faith through the investigation/re-enactment! the determination!! :elmofire:

i love watching cass and dick work together toooooo they make such a good team... like 3x now she's just made like. a one or two word comment and dick would be like "? --oh you mean bc x? good thinking batgirl"and then explains her meaning for the audience... its so good theyre so good

[fantastic-nonsense]

*reads the ten thousandth 'is Batman or Bruce Wayne the mask?' debate*

It's not hard, y'all. Batman is a Hannah Montana situation not a Count of Monte Cristo or Jekyll and Hyde situation, get it right

[planetoflovers]

As a Jason liker why am I in the anti Jason Todd tag but you’re so real for the “citizens see red hood as more effective than Batman” hate. Loathing. 13 year old kids seeing the guy that killed their uncle Anthony but it’s okay cause dealers won’t sell to their 16 year old sister who’s either now doing even shadier shit to get drugs or being forced through withdrawal. Okay. If you want to fanon jason stays in crime alley area and Jason really puts the fear of god into criminals by killing them -> generation of kids growing up with red hood related ptsd from their extended family and neighbors being killed by this dude. Like. Why are so many people in this fandom obsessed with theory posting about things they don’t know anything about.

It just does not make any sense to me. There are so many examples of goons with families in Batman comics. I’m currently reading Batgirl 2000 and this is a recurring archetype amongst the criminals she fights. I just really dislike Jason stans’ hypocrisy surrounding some of the characters moral codes. Like they say Bruce is childish and weak for upholding his no kill rule and then say that Jason’s methods of killing with no due process or remorse is what Gotham really needs. It’s absurd.

Murdered are a dime a dozen in Gotham. For every drug dealer Jason kills there’s probably another guy out there glad that his competition is gone. Bruce’s whole thing is that he never wants another child to go through what he went through when his parents died, regardless of how morally upright those parents happen to be. Him going around killing criminals goes against that cause whether you want to admit it or not every criminal has someone that loves them.

It should be obvious to everyone by now that Gotham’s main issue is corruption. The reason crime runs rampant is because most of the policy makers and law officials are in the pocket of crime lords like the penguin and black mask thus preventing justice from taking place.

I’ve probably said this before but a lot of gothamites don’t even like Batman and his associates and he works within the limits of the law. With Batman you at least know that you’ll live to see tomorrow but with the red hood that guarantee is not there. Batman inspired hope in people that they can change and choose to do better. Some newer comics seem to have forgotten the heart of Batman but moments like this one from Batman: kings of fear show that Bruce is making a change

And anyways Jason’s whole thing seems more like a child rebelling and lashing out at his father than any real attempt at crime prevention 🤷🏾‍♀️

[allovesthings]

(Context: this Batman: Bruce Wayne-fugitive and Bruce is accused of murder and is a fugitive)

This is interesting. Dick has been the one (with Cass) who was adamant that Bruce didn't do it without any proof. He was 100% sure that Bruce didn't do it. Both he and Cass were right (and she found the first piece of evidence that Bruce didn't do it) but it's interesting that this panel kinda seems to imply that he did have just a teeny tiny slimmer of a doubt.

[umbrellacam]

Batman: Bruce Wayne - Murderer Turned Fugitive Omnibus HC Planned release on December 17, 2024

👀 Rubbing my eyeballs all over this. It looks like it's going to actually have everything??

[gretahayes]

Do you think all that shit would've happened if Tim wasn't Robin or was he unintentionally a sort of catalyst

[mpjz03]

Batman: Gotham Knights #32

[heroesriseandfall]

Honestly this arc is very meh to me but I keep thinking about these parts. Because Cass doesn’t even exist in this, but WOW does make me think of the “of course Cass wouldn’t want a civilian identity, why would she need one?” arc in Batgirl (2000).

Batman (2011) #0: “Bruce Wayne isn’t important, anymore, Alfred. He’s a mask. This is all I need to be. It’s who I am.” / Batman (2011) #21: “I’m more effective like this. This gang, it’s growing faster than anyone knows. I can stop it. I just can’t be distracted by Bruce Wayne right now.”

Batgirl (2000) #14: “They’ve got you on file, you’re never going to be able to be anything…besides Batgirl.” “So?” / “I’m glad you want to use your identity. It makes you a more effective weapon.”

A comic page of Bruce Wayne and Alfred Pennyworth wearing formal suits in a penthouse bunker. Bruce says, “My parents died forty feet from our new front door. This is where I have to be, Alfred. This is where my war begins.” Alfred says, “And how is that war going so far, sir?” Bruce holds up a black boomerang. “Say what you want. But I am improving. Not fast enough, but I am.” They begin walking together. “Still, I’m not good enough. Not yet. I have the technology. I have the weapons. I should be able to fight this war without anyone ever knowing I exist. But something’s missing. I don’t know what...” Then Alfred says: “Perhaps going back to your family home would provide you with the grounding you need. Spend some time getting to know Bruce Wayne again.” Bruce responds, “Bruce Wayne isn’t important, anymore, Alfred. He’s a mask. This is all I need to be. It’s who I am.”

A comic page of Bruce and Alfred talking in the crime alley penthouse bunker. Bruce hangs upside down, shirtless, holding a thick stack of weights. Alfred says, “Speaking of things hidden, Master Bruce…Forgive me, but isn’t it about time you consider letting the city know Bruce Wayne has returned?” Bruce responds, “Unh. To gotham? I get that you don’t approve, Alfred, but Bruce Wayne is legally dead, and that’s how he’s going to stay.” Alfred begins to say, “Master Bruce—” But Bruce drops the weights with a clang and lands crouching on the floor. He says, “Alfred, just call me Bruce, will you? Please? How many times do I have to ask?” Alfred says, “As many as you’d like, sir, but I’m afraid I can’t. When you first asked me to join you in this madness of yours, the truth is, I did so to have your ear. To talk some sense into you.” Bruce pulls a facial disguise out of a suitcase, and says, “Well, this is guerrilla warfare. I’m more effective like this. This gang, it’s growing faster than anyone knows. I can stop it. I just can’t be distracted by Bruce Wayne right now.” Alfred says, “It’s strange. For years I waited for some word of you, Master Bruce. Believing you were still alive. And when you showed up, out of the blue, six weeks ago, I was filled with such…joy.” Bruce responds, “I was traveling, alfred. Training. For this. And I can’t tell you what it means to have you by my side here. But I’m not bringing Bruce Wayne back to life.”

A comic page of Barbara Gordon and Cassandra Cain talking. Babs says, “Batgirl—why? Why would you do that? You just…threw your identity away.” Cass responds, “What ident…iden...” Babs says, “Your future identity. I know Cain raised you in a bunker and wiped out your records to make you a more effective assassin. There’s nothing for them to find on you now…but what about your future? What if you want to go to school? Drive a car? Get a job? They’ve got you on file, you’re never going to be able to be anything…besides Batgirl.” Cass moves her mouth in thought, considering this, then says, “So?”

A comic page showing Cass following Batman out of the Batmobile into a cave with computers and workout equipment inside. Cass says, “Where…?” Is this…your cave?” Bruce says, “No. It’s your cave? I’ve had it set up for some time, but Oracle insisted on keeping you with her. I know about your conversation. I’m glad you want to use your identity. It makes you a more effective weapon.” Cass wiggles her mouth in consideration at this. Batman is completely stoic.

[batmanisagatewaydrug]

Tim Drake said fuck nazis!!!!

[tarucore]

Obsessed with this

[cleromancy]

:)

except now like.

AUGH.

[zahri-melitor]

Oh my god, Gotham Knights #26. I’m screaming, crying, throwing up.

Just this. This is so damn crunchy. It’s a reminder that the core of the post-Crisis Batfamily revolves around the dynamics and dance of tensions between Dick, Babs and Tim, and how each of them relate to Bruce.

Dick’s on the upswing of his relationship with Bruce, after the adoption and the two of them hammering a bunch of issues out.

Tim’s at a low point where he’s been frozen out and deliberately hurt. Bruce revealed his identity to Steph! Plus Alfred, who’s been staying with him to punish Bruce, had just announced he’s going back to the manor, leaving Tim even more alone.

Babs is in one of her “I’m here for the rest of you; Bruce is aggravating me by being high handed again” phases (admittedly that’s…her default position unlike the other two).

And wow does the way the three of them negotiate the debate over “did Bruce kill someone” just show off both their best and worst character traits (and also they’re all acting way more adult than Bruce, which isn’t a surprise, but what can you do).

Tim and Dick talk! Tim worries Dick is a jumper! They find out they have different opinions on Did Bruce Do It!

(I just want to EAT UP the implication that Tim is worried that Dick might be about to attempt suicide over the fact Bruce killed someone, especially just after the whole ‘killing Joker’ situation)

Dick is Extremely Offended Tim might think Bruce Did It. So what does he do? Go off to talk it through with Babs.

Babs gives Dick the reality check that Bruce has been in one of his push-everyone-away loner modes again and that Dick off in Blüdhaven isn’t having to face it personally, but Batman isn’t even patrolling with Robin right now. Also that Tim’s experiences with Bruce are necessarily different to Dick’s.

When suddenly… Tim arrives to ALSO thrash this conversation out with Babs (They are such mirrors of each other I swear).

Dick takes the opportunity to try and touch base with Tim and find common ground, leading to one of the best/most devastating pages of the Dick & Tim relationship at this point.

Dick is trying to make his baby brother feel safe. Dick would do anything for Tim. Tim however is all too aware of how hollow this promise is, as well meaning as the sentiment is, because they’ve lost people before. (And as I noted, Dick’s actually still in a GOOD cycle with Bruce while Tim really isn’t)

Which leads to THIS angst.

Tim believes in Dick. He can get by just trusting in the detective work he’s been taught and knowing that Dick holds to the Code (and we are LITERALLY only 3 months real time on since Last Laugh, Tim you have phenomenal levels of belief in Dick). Dick however, has that same level of trust in BRUCE, and so can’t cope with Tim not also feeling that way.

(And then Dick goes off to cry to Alfred because he also needed reassurance)

God I love all three of them so much it’s hard to describe. They’re so functional together even when they’re fighting as they all, at their core, trust each other implicitly.

(Alfred and Leslie have some very meaty conversations together and apart also in this, when Gotham Knights was on its game it was one of the best Bat books out there)

Finally: Babs is not having a great time here either, as she’s having to coordinate and run the investigation on Vesper Fairchild’s murder without any assistance from the primary suspect.

Working out some anger issues there, Babs? (Robin #99)

[barbaraminerva-apologist]

Batman during his "Bruce Wayne is mask, he died with his parents" phase

[beatora-truther]

for someone who doesn’t like the batfam i sure do enjoy quite a few batman comics