#cult conditioning type stuff

[zombieplaguedoc]

TW: Discussion Of Possible Religious Trauma

Being indoctrinated with toxic views and thinking growing up in a cult counts as religious trauma, right? Or does that not count?

Antis pls dni, this is not aimed at you

[hauntedraggedyanne]

Turning positive traits negative

here are some options you can use to make more complex, real characters

—Optimistic

Refuses to get serious about certain subjects, mocks those who don’t always share their positive viewpoints, says stuff like “if you’re depressed, just be happy 😃”

—Neat

Can’t handle their space being in any other condition, very preoccupied with how they appear rather than how they behave, can’t hold back their tongue if there’s a sock out of place in a friend’s bedroom

—Open

Some things don’t need to be said. They say those things. Every other sentence.

—Effective

Very mission oriented not ‘care about people’s feelings’ oriented. One of those co-workers who makes everyone look bad because they come in early and stay late so everyone kind of already doesn’t like them.

—Leadership

Doesn’t let anyone else take the wheel, as well as controlling when the situation doesn’t require it. Also could be someone who demands praise for their work as well as always being seen as number 1 (could be a cult leader).

—Honest

The type who tells the truth when you show off a new outfit and you ask for their opinion. Believes that fact is greater than feelings and it will get many people mad very, very quickly.

-Wholesome/innocent

Drags other people down to make them feel ‘dirty’ because of the life they lead. Knows that asking people about certain subject matters may make them uncomfortable, but does it anyways to show off just how 🧚🏻‍♀️💕pure🧚🏻‍♀️💕 they are. If you’re struggling with this, watch a bit of those tradwives videos (keep in mind, not the normal ones minding their own business.)

—Imaginative

Comes up with the WORST, most horrific, terrible fates for everyone. Gets really defensive/rude over their work. Thinks that they’re the next big thing in whatever field they’re working in.

—Selfless

Instantly throws themselves in front of danger and doesn’t think about the consequences of their own actions. Could fall victim to situations where they’re forced to take the fall every time while someone else walks right over them.

—Confidence

Can lead to selfishness, over abundance of pride, stubbornness and unwilling to admit wrong doings/beliefs/actions.

—Extroversion

Unable to understand proper boundaries that others have set, tries to bring people out of their comfort zone even when unnecessary, rude.

—Intelligence

One of those nerds that every class has that reminds the teacher of the homework, looks down on those less intelligent and doesn’t care of the social/economical/personal reasons as to why they don’t share the same intellect, prideful.

—Kindness

Nativity, allows the wrong people to walk free, toxic positivity, doesn’t want to understand how some people may just be evil, leading the team into multiple dangerous, avoidable situations.

—Romantic

‘Doesn’t take no for an answer’, makes people uncomfortable, overwhelms people with fantasies of romantic dinners/adventures despite it still being the first date, moves too fast for their love interest.

[meanbossart]

some questions about du drow and his blood magic sorcerer stuff (because i'm so damn curious about lore and sorcerer is one of my favourite classes haha). how did he become a sorcerer? did bhall create him that way and only grant him access to those powers later? did du drow just... not realise he had them until he joined the cult of bhall? did he suddenly stop being a sorcerer after he was infected with the tadpole? does he still have access to those powers but he just doesn't use them? does he still use them but not to the same caliber as before? i can understand not having them after being killed by bhaal and subsequently resurrected by withers, but if they are cut off at a different point, what causes that?

i think that's all the questions i have... sorry if they're too many 😅

(Technically there are indirect spoilers for A Novel Experience in this answer but I don't think its particularly egregious. EITHER WAY I figured I'd mention it.)

I guess sorcery is something bestowed upon him by matter of being a God's spawn, but there's no solid answer here and in truth, it's anyone's guess! He was born with these powers and had a vague but progressive knowledge of their existence as he developed. As I've mentioned before, DU drow killed his foster mother and partner at the age of 10 or 11 - he is not supernaturally strong now (well, I mean that he's only as strong as you would expect a 6'5", 250lbs man to be), and he certainly wasn't back then, either - It was thanks to his sorcery streak that he could take them out at all and swiftly. From that point on, he also had to escape the Underdark all by himself, where said powers probably came in clutch.

I believe that as DU drow grew older, a mixture of forgetfulness and aversion played a role in him pushing the thought of it out of his mind. He did not practice his powers at all as a teenager and focused entirely in what his body was physically capable of doing and enduring - he was often hungry, hurting and lonely, whatever weird blood magic he spurred up as a child, bore no relevance now. In truth, his powers are pretty useless for any purpose besides quickly killing something or healing himself.

It's worth noting too that this sorcery thing is purely in service of lore; DU drow is not a character that I play table-top with and so, his sorcery isn't supposed to function exactly like it would in a game. He has a blood magnetism/molding type power based closely off the Blood Magic's homebrew additional spells. He doesn't have cantrips or domain over any other type of magic like a caster character normally would.

DU drow can only do the following: Hemorrhagia: An AoE spell that draws blood out of a creature's orifices by forceful, magical means until either the caster's concentration is broken or all affected creatures perish. Ineffective against undead or constructs. (Based on the 6th level spell Haemorrhage from the aforementioned homebrew)

Universal Recipient: The human body is like a balm, and DU drow is but a pile of meat-putty; The blood and flesh of others can be absorbed to quicken the healing of small wounds, retain the vitality of the caster, and even regenerate the function of body parts. This also makes him immune to all blood diseases, but not to all blood conditions. This is actually a passive. (Based off of "Theft Of Life".)

(I have a desire to expand upon this but my other ideas are currently irrelevant and/or undercooked. So I'll leave at that for now.)

This is based on his theoretic conception (literally a piece of meat slabbed off of a dead god), and should also explain how he would have been able to survive infancy, childhood, and later, Kressas's experiments.

Upon joining the Bhaalist temple, DU drow would come to better understand and utilize his powers, but it was often more of a threat/punishment used against his own followers rather than something ever employed against victims. He always preferred getting up-and-personal with targets and sacrifices rather than resorting to sorcery, though naturally he still enjoyed the benefits of being Universal Recipient at all times.

DU drow does not recall ever possessing these powers following his brain being scrambled and the tadpole inserted. I can also tell you right now that triggering them by accident is impossible - his rejection of Bhaal as well as his death at the temple, however, did not nullify them. Once again, Universal Recipient does remain in-effect, but the benefits enjoyed by someone who's unaware of how that power functions is far too subtle for DU drow to chuck it up to anything outside the normal range of weirdness that surrounds him. As far as his friends and himself are concerned, he just heals really well sometimes.

Thanks for being curious about it! I had been holding onto this for so long, LOL. I'm glad to finally have a reason to get into it.

[lyquynhnhu]

A Tale of Perishing - analysis (part 1)

Just watched episode 4 of Zenshu and it was hilarious. To be honest, it’s since episode 2 that I’m curious about the original movie plot.

What we know is that “A Tale of Perishing” was an original anime in movie format. Just from the title it’s is expected to be very dramatic. Natsuko stated that the plot was depressing, the type of angst for angst sake.

Natsuko gets reincarnated at the start of the movie. At this point 8/9 country of that world have already perished. Only 1 city survived, the Last City.

The movie probably just introduced the hero party and soon after the enemy army attacked, like it happened in episode 1. Then Unio sacrificed himself to annihilate the enemies. This means that Unio just died before getting to know his character. However, from the bit of the movie that Natsuko watched on her computer, he was alive. Maybe Unio appears only in flashbacks.

Before Unio funeral, there is the voids attack from the sky. And somehow, Luke, who was devastated by the death of his best friend, somehow managed to defeat them. However, in episode 2, QJ stated that Luke has 3% of possibility to win. Like, in the movie he was mentally unstable but manages to win, while in the anime he was physically and mentally alright and still struggle? My theory is that Luke is able to trigger some special power under dire situation. But since Natsuko resolved it all, the condition to awake such power are not met.

So, after this attack, the city has time to held Unio funeral. There, Luke meets and fall in love with Destiny. We know that Destiny would died, but I think that happened further in the movie. In fact, I think that others of the Nine Soldiers died before she did. After every loss, Destiny stay with Luke to comfort him and give him courage (while also attracting problems). The Memmeln cult stuff probably happened in the middle of the movie. Destiny is probably the last one to die and Luke completely broke.

It’s unclear if the movie ended with Luke saving the world or the enemies winning. It’s probably the former, but it’s not totally an happy ending since almost all the cast have died.

Anyway, since it was an anime movie, the duration is limited and many parts got cut. For example, Natsuko know nothing about the choir and had no idea why Memmeln transformed in the Great Void.

As for Memmeln, she lived more than 200 years always in battlefield. But the void are supposed to have appears not many years ago. On the official site, it’s written that Luke and Memmeln come from different countries before the country falls. Since Memmeln lives long, maybe her country fell century ago while Luke’s fell when he was a child.

Memmeln says that she joined the cult recently. She realizes for a long time that her life is hard, but doesn’t consider taking her own life maybe because of her responsibility as a hero. The Nine Soldiers seems to have been chosen by a prophecy. Unio said that Luke was destined to be become the legend hero the day he was born. Memmeln doesn’t choose to be a hero, but she cares for the world and the people. If she died, void would continue to attack and the people would suffer more with one less hero protecting them. With the cult, she found people who think like her. By awaking the Great Void, Memmeln believe that the world would end peacefully and equally ending everyone suffering. Her decision is quite selfish and drastic, but her decision comes from her particular circumstances.

The cult doesn’t control the void attacks, they just want them to get the last Soul Future. Memmeln doesn’t want to create panic, that’s why transforming into the Great Void and attack Luke was her last card. But she regret it. In the anime she detransformed back because she was having second thoughts, while in the original movie she is easily defeated by Luke. Probably she didn’t even try to fight seriously.

In the movie, all her motives are cut. Nor Luke nor the audience understand this twist of the plot. No wonder the movie was rated bad. I’m quite convinced that the movie condensed the story too much. Like, there are 9 heroes, but they died without getting development. It’s already difficult to develop everyone with 12 episodes (I think Zenshu have only 12 episode, wish it had more), and the movie was 2 hours long.

I think from episode 5 to 9 the anime will introduce the remaining 5 heroes. In the preview we see the dragon who was also in the opening. Usually, in the opening should appear all the characters or at least the silhouettes. But the dragon is the only one that appears.

I really wished this anime has 2 cours.

[radiomogai]

hi we're back to rant more about the inherent exclusionism found within online communities

okay so we're traumagenic, most likely disordered (but we don't like labelling any specific, we just suffer a lot of dissociation + dp/dr), and we don't really understand why stuff around programming feels so. exclusive. of those who don't have a specific type of trauma from xyz.

like it wasn't organized but we were part of a larger online cult in which we were groomed and scapegoated with extreme frequency. and it wasn't the kind of programming that's often described, but moreso generally conditioned to accept the abuse inflicted upon us as "normal".

if we don't fit in one box or another, where do we fit? are we "traumatized enough" to be among those who suffered worse?

it gets even worse when we directly avoid anyone who labels themselves as an "anti" of anything, because of said larger online cult and the trauma surrounding it.

people in mogai + traumagenic plural communities feel way too comfortable gatekeeping terms and resources from those who don't perfectly fit into a box of "good survivor". just like how we weren't a "good victim". it sucks. do better.

from what we know, there are several reasons for that sort of exclusivity. one is due to the terms being directly and explicitly connected to the experiences of that sort of trauma {much in the same way an autigender related to a show is exclusive to autistics. allistics can be a gender related to that same show, but the autigender is exclusive as it directly ties in to the experiences of being autistic as well, which allistics do not have}, another is due to disbelief and fakeclaiming around traumas like those, another is common differences in function between programmed and non-programmed systems {like the idea of "the system is there to protect you" is often not true in programmed systems}

we have seen discussions comparing and contrasting conditioning and programming, but i'm not confident enough on the subject to speak on it

unfortunately i don't have an answer for you on where you fit in, sorry

overall this isn't a topic we're really able to discuss, sorry. we don't know enough and we're not comfortable with it

[jumpdriveproject]

I was gonna try to formulate my thoughts and do like a big run down of the issues i had with Who's Lila but im too lazy to do that so it'll be stream of consciousness. This isnt me saying i disliked it or its objectively bad/problematic/whatever, its just some stuff im surprised i havnt seen come up. Spoilers ahead I guess.

Essentially it just kinda sucks how they actually do a pretty good job of talking about consciousness and perception and identity, then throw it away by saying "actually tulpa are all demons made with meme magic (see: white supremacy, The Illuminati, "Them") and if you have an alter/headmade/thoughtform/etc. shes going to steal your body and kill everyone you care about because :)

It hits particularly close to home for us because the non-evil depictions of Lila are fairly similar to my own experiences with plurality that we only started unpacking this year. Hanging out and being close to a girl in your head then getting scared and suppressing her until the act of remembering her brings her back, etc. (The visual depiction of her floating through physical space is also fairly accurate for us.)

I've talked before about "The Girl In My Head" on this account and we're on good terms, and i know its a weird thing to talk about but getting that "This is what you think of me?" from her while playing is def a certain type of shitty feeling that I dont think the developer thought could be a response.

Tulpamancy in particular is not the origin of my/our system, and I have heard tale of tulpamancy gone awry (even I like to joke about the screaming pinky pie tulpa) and im sure there are some mancers who do believe in a metaphysical/magical reality to their creations, but I think perpetuating the idea that "it lets demons in" is potentially dangerous or at the very least not something that should be popularized.

I think a lot of the ideas the game plays with in regards to ideas/concepts/characters taking on a life of their own is also really interesting and something i've been passionate about in the past, but again i think draping those ideas exclusively in the context of hate groups, cults, mass killings etc, is not the best.

Im also curious how people with autism, psychopathy, or other "cant express emotions well" type conditions might feel about it, cause it doesnt seem like it handles those ideas well either tbh.

Again, I had a fun time playing it, I think its generally good, just dont let it color your perception of plurality and stuff lol.

[floodlandss]

LUMILOGOS BIBLE (ALWAYS IN THE WORKS)

if you want you can also read her toyhouse; if you have a toyhouse acc i can also authorize you to their tab if you’d like! :3 i’m gonna try to make this require as liiittle arknights knowledge as possible but forgive me if i get silly. some of it is outdated/will be fixed because i’ve had lumi before zt and i have’t read it (gunshot)

hi welcome to the lumilogos masterpost. my ship lore is literally slendermans pages but i’m feeling nice today. this is mostly a summary and also more on lumi!

— this is kinda always a wip bcus i'll add and change stuff here as we go!

TW: referenced child neglect, cults, and arknights is kinda its own trigger warning.

✦ ��──── LUMI, IN SHORT:

at a young age, lumière was plucked out of the remnants hands by a servant to the twin empresses, the esteemed lich egret lindenauer. after her parents' failure to raise her and the remnant cultists' conduct — leaving a child mistreated by those who were supposed to protect her — lindenauer sought to raise her herself in secret. the child was sick with the witch king's traces, and couldn’t hear much else for a long time.

when she ventured out of lindenauer’s spire to look for her, the remnants picked up her trail. lumière had yet to be a failure. lindenauer, in the little time they had left together, passed her harp and composition catalogue onto her. lumière was left in the care of her good friend czerny and his aunt ursula. 

after living a relatively quiet life, performing concealed with her harp in the afterglow hall, her oripathy was exacerbated by the presence of ebenholz and kreide. she finds to a rhodes island office, where hibiscus insists upon her treatment — formally only joining rhodes island under the condition of only using her arts in support of others.

in an effort to help her condition, she is appointed to arts expert logos.

✦ ───── LUMILOGOS TIDBITS:

logos helped her unbind her arts from the traces of the witch king. even though, after helping her, they had no more obligation to meet, they still continued meeting in the same spot, at the same time. one day, she brought him a feather pen from leithanien, and he gave her a key for no lock.

outside of their jobs, it’s hard to find them apart. if so, they’re probably looking for one another. it’s cute, but rhodes island staff would think it’s cuter if they didn’t cause so much trouble. lumière often joins his ventures, and has even moderated his notorious chair race. many of those troublesome incantations of his were co-authored by her. closure has proposed exile for both of them. 

lumière’s passion for classical music is infectious, and he eventually decided to join her as the voice to her melodies. the younger operators love their songs, and their door has often attracted small crowds when they’re not performing outside. when lumière joined the rhodes island choir and phonor-0 took interest in her relationship to logos, he was near mortified. his mother soon came to personally give her blessings after getting word of “a blooming relationship” from the robot, and he hadn’t seen lumière in days. that’s how he discovered how much her absence affects him after all the time they spent together.

✦ TRIVIA:

on their first anniversary, lumière cut a lock of her hair for him, and she got one of his feathers from him. 

they both have the same mole in the same spot

logos is the little spoon and he is a spoiled filthy brat 

for arknights players: yes. that key is THAT type of key this ones for you

tba tba tba

✦ ───── SPOTLIGHT:

trigger warning for endfield for discussions of death/cloning. it's kinda scary. endfield is scary

bluebell archive / hasenglöckchen: main tag | ramble + what-if game

endfield: 1 ramble + minicomic | 2 ramble

[kat-124]

OC LORE OC LORE tell me about it 🔫🔫🔫

EEEEEKKK uhhh ill talk abt hook cuz thats the post yea yea

warnings for talk of death, dismemberment, implied cannibalism, ya

hook was spawned in lost temple, at about uhhh 14 she joined the true eye cult, having lived outside of it before hand. mostly out of wanting a purpose in life and intrigued by their religious practices, and also just to have a place to stay since she was pretty much homeless and didnt really like others

she was basically just raised there, given a mild education (with what they could offer anyways) and church teachings and allat, she had some friends, lalala. at some point having her eye replaced with the glass one

until about 17-18 she starts looking for what roles/jobs to do for the cult, she wasnt really interested in the religious aspects of it, but she still followed their beliefs.

her gear, (deluxe hook shot) works kinda like a grappling hook, but instead of the 'claws' going out to hold onto something, they just go inwards, like a claw machine ig would be a good comparison.

the claw part can be shot out pretty far and fast, and yea. very sharp and has those spikes on the big claw

she started doing different like, delivery type jobs, hauling stuff. she did some stupid stuff, getting into petty fights with higher ups, or just causing unneeded ruckuses. getting 'demoted' to doing moreso the dirty work if you will.

she became part of the 'clean up crew' which would basically be the ones to drag away the dead bodies produced by the cult (whether it be traitorous cult members, results of a duel, enemies of the cult, or just some unnamed guy dead in the streets) the crew was the ones who were to either bury or burn the bodies. get them out of sight if you will.

at first she HATED the job, she wasnt averse of violence or anything but many of the bodies were in pretty gorey conditions, and having to get that close and haul them herself made her eugh.

which is kinda why it served as a punishment in the first place. after about half a year she wasnt required to do it anymore, but she gave up on the other roles or jobs, not feeling she had all that much talent, so she just kinda settled on it

slowly as she does it though, she starts to not see the dead bodies as people, being clearly desensitized and just seeing them like rubble to be cleared out. and the constant smell of inphernal blood and guts has gotten tuned out of her mind.

but then, as most of her interactions with people are dead, she starts not really seeing the living as people either, that they'll meet their end someday and just become another mound of dirt

honestly didnt feel like her life Had that much purpose, hell, she didnt believe in what the church taught anyways. she didnt believe in others because they were all animals, all to be killed, all to just bring eachother to an end. to harvest.

one day, when she was about 23, a burial coworker, who I'll just refer to as S. tried to kill an important higher up, and was executed for it, being shot twice and left to bleed out in the sand. she found him, basically on the cusp of death, and just kinda watched. she wasnt at the aftermath, but his time was running out.

it was just so interesting. and it was someone she had atleast worked with before. so she approached, took her gear and would begin to dismember him. watching his reactions as he faded in and out of painful, painful death. this was a traitor, someone stupid enough to get themselves killed. the blood staining her hands, it was warm, and the smell of it all, she felt like an animal, and so was he. so she consumed.

when the body of the traitor was to be burned, it was missing its arms.

after the 3rd 'family' member was found disfigured, she was threatened and she fled to the coverage of thieve's den forests

using the large claw of her own gear to tear that pure white glass reminder in her skull out. it was messy, it was freeing. and by the heights it hurt.

youtuber voice LIKE FOR PART 2 GUYS!!

[i-have-rabies-dw]

Howdy hey!!! My name is Kitt or Ko <3

This is my blog to make friends, be myself, and find others who've lived similar lives to me! This is my only source of social interaction sooo bare with me

I'm 20, live in the United States, I usually use he/him pronouns, but I am genderfluid! I'm a nb transmasc living in one of the most rural areas of the continental US! I have no friends, this place is 30 or more years behind with respecting women/afab folk & lgbt acceptance <3

I'm a boydyke aspec lesboy! I'm not attracted to cis people, mostly attracted to trans men/enby individuals and transwomen occasionally. (But hmu worms, I still love you💔)

MDnis unless debating: Trans exclusionary feminists towards ftms, nb, mtfs, intersex folk in feminism (have always been apart of feminism), endo/"non trauma" systems (not real sry pick a struggle), npd abuse or insert any other mental health condition abuse believers, conservatives, zionists, exclusionary lgbtq folk (straight pandering much)

Dnis perrrriod: Radqueers, zoos/pedos/etc, under 18!

What's wrong with me? Wellll then, I have DID, BPD&Bipolar 1, ASD, (dx with all listed), NPD and other problematic mental health symptoms where idk what they stem from tbh. I don't bite, I pinky promise, genetics and life have really sucked! Obv looking for friends with these same disorders, especially systems with any of these conditions. If you're accepting of people who have these conditions and don't have them, I also wouldn't mind talking!

My Beloved Interests; Embroidery! It's my fav past time, keeps me sannne. I love many other types of creativity, story writing, traditional art (sketching&watercolors mostly), physical crafts, and singing/music/song writing! I'm a very outdoorsy person, love foraging, hiking, plant identification and practical uses, swimming, watching animals, I love love bugs. I also love gardening, love my plants sm <3. Cooking from scratch 2! I've never had a social life lmao

Shows/Movies - Bojack Horseman, Gravity Falls, •South Park•, Heather's the Movie&Musical, Them (2019), Hazbin but I don't like or support Vivian/Vivzi

Books - Stone Butch Blues, I know Why the Caged Bird Sings, Parable of the Sower, George Orwell Books <3... I have no Mouth, and I must Scream

Manga&Anime - The Promised Neverland, Danganronpa, Mekakucity Actors

Games: DETRIOT BECOME HUMAN!!!

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Imma post about symptom stuff, memes, social justice related stuff (usually from historical evidence), embriodery related stuff, and yeah just whatever I'm up toooo (this blog is ran by a Kokichi Ouma fictive)

I can't respond to comments&dm rn (can respond to dms/asks)

[astronez]

Black salt I love you I yell into the abyss

Does this affect his time in PV’s cult? I mean I feel like accommodations would be made for him but I don’t know if PV is aware of his condition unless he’s like canon SMC, a stalker

he’s very observant so he would notice things not being well with SMC almost immediately. and pv isn’t the type of person to just…assume things and go on his merry way. he’ll outrightly ask you, and because of how his cult is structured, he’ll get the answers straight away as no one is allowed to lie.

smc can try and hide it, but he can’t around pv, so he’ll probably say smth vague like “i get tired easily” and carry on and then pv will make accommodations for him accordingly cause he knows there’s more to it. he’s more understanding if SMC doesn’t want to walk, if he spends more time in bed, if not he just doesn’t want to do stuff.

he does try rlly hard to keep him comfortable 😭😭

[august-zip]

also stuff i forgot to mention maybe

most severe abuse victim circles specify the type of abuse/trauma instead of RAMCOA, idk why RAMCOA is now circulated as a popular topic/term, it kind of personally makes me uncomfortable that this information is known by lots of people, i dont like people knowing about severe abuse because that makes me and others like me more vulnerable if they know how we operate somewhat. but thats me personally! idk

its rare for abusers to be self aware like this, its not IMPOSSIBLE but rare

separate abusers and abuser groups arent all unifiedly connected to eachother from around the world, may or may not have clarified this idk i forgot. just incase. (aka: this is not a "elites/cults controlling the world/abusing children/whatever" type antisemitic conspiracy type deal)

they will also often justify child abuse, same as any other abuser

ritual abuse means ritualistic, as in repeatedly-occuring in the same way ocd has rituals. but also ritual abuse as in religious rituals under religious abuse are a... thing, theyre more often christian than satanic though and not what anyone thinks when they think religious ritual LOL. again, legitimate abuse is heavily removed from pop culture scifi occult satanic ritual abuse conspiratorial bullshit, and more realistic/down to earth

there is not one unified plan/instruction, "ramcoa carrds" describing stuff like programs list, "alpha," "beta", whatever, thats just describing trauma + fear + conditioned responses, its not like abusers have a guide book or they actually use this terminology or they know of all this stuff, its just words to describe a specific phenomenon, "alpha" = conditioned response and compulsion to obey abusers etc. "delta" = an implemented conditioned response related to fight response. "beta" = S/A type conditioning. "zeta" = desensitization, normalization, justification, "liking" of abuse/viewing it as good. ETC. its just conditioning + specific beliefs "implanted" (abused into) them. "theta" = religious abuse conditioning. "omega" = sui/SH conditioning. and so on. Some are rare though. and there are other "programs" (which is to describe specific conditioned responses/implanted beliefs due to trauma/abuse, etc) that are just... specific to your own case?

most/99% of cults do not do this kind of conditioning/programming, its very rare, dont get me wrong

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[x-neurotoxin-x]

So, about the 7TGH asks... I don't know how to ask exactly, but I kinda wanna know more about Rei and Enji relationship. 'Cause, like, Rei is now excusing and defending Enji's actions a lot and basically bleaming Touya for the CSA and everything... and then the fact that she told Ujiko that "she's mine and my husband's first", or the fact that she convinced herself that she's pregnant from Enji. I mean, sometimes she acts like she sees Enji as just a "victim" of Touya's manipulation and even in TIMH it felt like she was more scared of Touya than Enji, so I was wondering how their relationship developed in this universe. Like, how has Rei been feeling about Enji over the years? How did she react to his death? Did she always feel like Enji abusing Touya was "right" or did this feeling just grow in her as her mental health kept getting worse?

(I take this occasion to say that the chapters between Touya and Rei are so heartbreaking and well written... like, when Touya starts worrying about his Mom for her pregnancy? And when they don't want her to leave them alone with the men? Oh my goooosh...!)

-rubs hands together- yay an excuse to talk about Rei, girl got more layers than an onion.

Okay, so, her relationship with Enji. In 7tgh the stuff im working with backstory wise for Rei is kinda going off of the canon established stuff about the Himura clan being incestuous and onto eugenics and quirk marriages and such. I've made them basically a family cult type situation and Rei was groomed from childhood to be married of when she was "of age" (which was probably really young). She originally would have been married off to relatives like most In the family but Enji's offer was too good to pass up, and his goal with the quirk marriage and eugenics business aligned with their ideas so she was married off to him.

Since she has familial trauma, grooming, programming/conditioning and was immediately thrown into an arranged marriage with a controlling and abusive man, she def developed a trauma bond with him. It was kinda back and forth how she felt about him bc it's a dv situation, it's complicated. She felt like she had to stay with him both based on loyalty as a wife and because she was scared of him, she "loves him" but that love is conditioned and based on fear. She had moments where she tried to put her foot down, especially early on while the kids were young, but eventually she caved, she mentally snapped and ended up in the hospital.

Her relationship with Touya is complicated mainly because hes her first child and he became a scapegoat for her and something to vent her pain on. She fought that at first and it was mostly resentment and being very distant with Touya when they were a kid, and a lot of it definitely stemmed from her having really bad postpartum when she had him, but it only got worse as they got older and both of their mental states got worse. As she got worse when Touya was a kid, she started having delusions about him not being her child and being something evil, projecting herself and Enji onto him and basically seeing him As a combination of their worst traits, seeing him as a cause to her suffering bc if he could just he what Enji wanted she wouldn't have had to had more kids, and justified the abuse as Touya being difficult, or that he wanted/was asking for it, because it was easier than coming to terms with the fact her husband and her herself were abusing him.

When Touya's an adult it definitely becomes more complicated bc, again, she sees him as a scapegoat especially post canon. She's kinda snapped after the end there too leading up to and during timh, and in the hospital before timh she was basically made docile by chemical lobotomy and over medication. Enji's saying he's changed and the family wants to be a family and she gets released so she feels like they all got another chance and kind of falls into this delusion that everything will be okay and she goes into denial about everything with Enji, falls back into those conditioned responses as a "good wife." Touya, or moreso Dabi, breaks that illusion for her in timh, which is why she seems more uneasy around him than enji, it's more scapegoating esp with how Dabi behaves and intentionally stirs things up and disturbs the very fragile peace. That's kinda what causes her to snap and end up in the hospital again.

Obviously that only worsens while she's in the hospital, because of the psychiatric abuse, then she learns Touya killed Enji, the family is basically in ruins and all split up again, Fuyumi also is institutionalized, and Rei's only released to avoid scandal bc of the pregnancy. All that shit she kinda channels into scapegoating Touya again, because in her mind he caused all of this and it's his fault things are the way they are.

Their relationship is complicated bc at the end of the day over time she basically stopped seeing them as one of her children, stopped seeing them as a person even, and just saw them as a manifestation of everything wrong with her, with the family, and all the suffering and bad stuff in the family. When she's going on about "correcting him" and "making him take responsibility" it's really just her trying to get closure for everything, she basically needs an outlet to put all her pain and Touya developed a complex with everything on their end and their guilt and complex about things that they basically went from not really agreeing > going a long with it > basically adapting to and believing everything that's being projected onto them even if it isn't right. I think deep down Rei knows what she's done to them is wrong but she's so far in now and she's done and let such horrible shit be done to them that if she pulled herself out of it it would be completely soul crushing to live with.

[dereksfavboy]

listing what kinda music I think my favs listen to (except i don't think I KNOW they listen to these and I'm right and if u disagree ur wrong and u will start coughing if u try arguing with me) to remind myself to make playlists for them

Derek - rock, metal, mostly emo, punk & grunge, mcr, metallica, anthrax, slayer, nirvana, iron maiden, exodus, type o negative , the cure, sex pistols, green day, blink-182, motionless in white, suicidal tendencies, muse, pixies, tfb, siousxie and the banshees, wallows, maroon 5,fob, set it off, 21 pilots, bôa, cannibal corpse, alice in chains, three days grace, puddle of mudd, acdc, all time low, boys like girls, dead man's bones(canon), falling in reverse, black veil brides, escape the fate, bring me the horizon, 5 seconds of summer, ok music and Derek r my life so i can go on and on forever but u get the drill methinks

Erica my girl ohhhuh my baby I love her- rock, hip-hop, pop, scenemo, millionaires, paramore, evanescence , mcr, ghost town, p!atd, 3OH!3, S3RL, nelly furtado,, bullet for my valentine, all time low, siousxie and the banshees, pierce the veil, msi, get scared, Britney Spears , the cranberries, björk, bôa, t.A.T.u, miley cyrus , aaliyah, amy winehouse, avril lavigne, lady gaga, holywood undead, kesha

Deucalion oouhgh my father he's so dad I miss him- classical literally think of any classical song ever ,he's heard it . His fav composers r vivaldi and tchaikovsky . he also fw jazz, R&B, and rock, led zeppelin, the who, xscape, deep purple, michael jackson, black sabbath, coldplay, the smiths, aretha franklin, sinatra, mariah carey, adele, badfinger, abba, SZA, frank ocean, Tony! Toni! Toné!, Mint Condition, d'angelo, lauryn hill, boys || men ,luther vandross,ella fitzgerald

Peter - R&B, jazz, rock, EDM, (younger peter would also b into metal, classics like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath etc etc ) nirvana, adele, the rolling stones, pink floyd, Prince, Snap!, ace of base, daft punk, coldplay, cascada, michael jackson, queen aphex twin, whitney houston, the weekend, mariah carey, the isley bros, marvin gaye, d'angelo, bruno mars, alice in chains, 7 year bitch, sinatra, soulgarden, pearl jam, the beatles, this list is kinda lacking I don't rlly listen to this stuff sorry to my favourite asshole

Eli- rock, emo, grunge, mcr, ptv, acdc, evanescence, falling in reverse, blink-182, mccafferty, green day, nirvana, hollywood undead, get scared, the neighborhood, TFB, set it off and basically almost everything his dad listens to + some pop like sabrina carpenter, taylor swift , billie eilish, harry styles

Laura “erm she has like two seconds of screen time“ who gaf - rock ( mostly likes gothic rock), depeche mode, bauhaus, the witching hour, siousxie and the banshees (I don't play Abt S&TB if u haven't noticed),the cranberries, the cure, joy division, the cult, evanescence, switchblade symphony, queen, sisters of mercy, the smiths,and classical music, her fav composers r debussy and ludovico einaudi

Isaac - rock, grunge, nirvana, mccafferfy, evanescence, msi,mcr, acdc, abba, queen, wallows, radiohead, soad, bôa, muse, pixies, yadda yadda I'll stop listing a gazillion artists now cuz it's getting repetitive af

Chris- not rlly a music guy, nirvana

Cora - rock, tfb,bôa, björk, s&tb, evanescence, abba, the smiths, nirvana, my bloody valentine, radiohead, the cure, pixies, the smashing pumpkins, the cranberries

Braeden - rock, björk, new years day, my bloody valentine, pixies, bôa

Stiles - rock and pop, nirvana, iron maiden, 21 pilots, fob, radiohead, bring me the horizon, all time low, taylor swift, one direction, britney spears, paramore, amy winehouse

I'm sleep deprived as fuck save me derek hale

[deliveryclan]

You either challenge fate or you all fall together. You have 200 moons to decide. Time's ticking. And the gods are working against you.

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It's been few moons since Warmfire became Oat Clowder's overseer. With scarce amount of cats left, still recovering from the disastrous rule of their previous overseer and uneasy relations with surrounding groups, he is forced to grapple with his clowder's turbulent past and make plans for their uncertain future. But he knows, if they want to survive, they must move forward, towards the change.

They just don't realize by how much is about to change. For better or worse.

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Current moon: 7 | Masterpost of all moons | Allegiances [Moon 7]

Comicfury page

Oat Clowder | Ferret Clowder | Mallow Clowder | Sweet Clowder

The Pod | Andromedae | Coalitions | Trading Villages | Ancients

Higher Beings | Alleys

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SERIOUS TWs: blood, gore, violence, body horror, animal and child (kit) death + harm, unsettling elements, eyestrain, many types of abuse (physical, psychological, sexual, spousal, parental, religious, child), average warrior cats issues will be touched on too (cross- and outer-clan xenophobia, misogyny, pointless conflicts over piss lines), cults, transphobia/transmisogyny, homophobia and cissexism, cheating and affairs, grooming (mostly ideological + non-sexual and non-romantic)

BONUS TWs: food horror, osha violations, unsanitary conditions, low wages, pineapple on pizza, 5-minute craft level of food hacks, innuendos, sex jokes and talks about intimacy, penis music, papa louie jumpscare, illegal gun ownership, free robux cheats, unlimited nights at fredbears

TAGS:

- #delivery ooc (mostly used for character questions, sometimes paired with lore, and memes)

- #delivery moon / #delivery moon bonus (for the main moons and bonus pages)

- #delivery lore / #delivery lore bonus (for Oat Clowder's history and lore related to other groups, but also character art/refs)

- #misc ooc (anything else that gets reblogged here and isn't related to this clangen)

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OTHER INFO:

- Mod pronouns: they/he

- Mod is the mean lesbian everyone warned you about.

- Mod is an adult who will write adult characters do and talk about adult stuff, like doing taxes, committing manslaughter and owning guns. And sex I guess. Nothing explicit will happen on screen, but the references and implications will be there. Children do come from somewhere, they don't just spawn from thin air.

- Vaguely inspired by 'No Delivery', but I took so many liberties that it's separate enough now. I just keep the old name, bc I can't come up with anything different. And they still make pizza.

[swordfright]

but i do think it was grooming???? cdream was only obsessed with ctommy its very clear so its no manic episode or anything. he wanted ctommy to be his toy that's all he cared about, the rest was just lies to make himself look better.

there are two definitions of grooming that i’m familiar with. the first is more generally the act of manipulating a vulnerable person (usually perpetrated by an authority figure of some kind) over a long period of time, conditioning them to think/act a certain way, and oftentimes in ways that are ultimately harmful. this is what cults do. the second definition, which I’ve heard more frequently, is that this manipulation necessarily involves an element of sexual coercion.

if you’re talking about the first definition, then i agree that this interpretation makes sense based on what we see on-screen in the story. some of the isolation tactics c!dream uses on c!tommy remind me of isolation tactics used by cults, and this is true regardless of c!dream’s potential motives at the time. but if you’re talking about the second definition then i strongly disagree - i don’t think there’s any evidence to support the idea that any kind of csa happened during exile.

i’m aware that this is a popular fan interpretation of exile and that’s fine, i’m a horror writer and it would be hypocritical of me to take issue with an entire sub-type of dsmp horror. but frankly, it’s not an interpretation i subscribe to. that stuff is way way way too dark for me personally. i am not interested in consuming or discussing that kind of content.

[stephenjaymorrisblog]

Suckers, Morons, and Other Types of

Trump Supporters

Stephen Jay Morris

6/2/2024

©Scientific morality.

            America may be the greatest country in the world, but its patriots are the dumbest people in the universe! What did P.T. Barnum say? “No man ever went broke overestimating the ignorance of the American Public.” Trump may be the first canonized patron saint of the Protestant Church. He became the first convicted felon, former president in the history of the USA; and what do his supporters do? Send him money! Lots of money!! One of them posted on X that he’d canceled his vacation and sent the money to Trump to help fight his legal battles. Five thousand dollars!

            Then there is the religious factor—the docile followers of Christianity in small town America. The pastor behind the pulpit, the direct line from God, that his flock believes, unquestionably, everything he says. The pastor who gets visited from God, every night, and receives instructions directly from Him. If you dare to question his word, you are a demon from hell trying to sabotage the word of God! Would that be me? I am from hell, otherwise known as East Hollywood. Nah!

            People who are brainwashed, particularly those in cults, have minds impervious to truth. You can show them factual evidence, photos, recordings, documents, and they still don’t believe that which is real. What can you do about it? Not much. Truth be known, Trump donated millions to the White protestant church with the proviso, “Tell them God sent me.” His suckers believed it, hook, line, and sinker! I’ve said it a million times before: that is why conservatives are anti-public education. They’d rather your children sit in a Christian classroom, watching Prager U videos; that or adhere to home schooling. Yeah, that is a rich concept. Having stupid parents teaching their naive children to be ignorant, like they are! Keep them stupid, Jesus! That’s the stuff! What is so hilarious is that Trump tells them, right to their faces, that they are idiots. And they think he’s correct! This is the relationship between the oppressors and the oppressed. The oppressor metes out punishment while the meek assumes masochistic pleasure from the master’s whip. Deep down, however, they don’t enjoy getting whipped; they are conditioned to be masochistic. When you substitute normal sex with violence, you get one decadent, fucked up society!

            Now, this thing that progressives and liberals are whining about, losing our Democracy to Fascists, I beg the question: Did we ever have democracy? Ask the Native Americans. Ask the former slaves. Ask the women who were told to shut up. Ask the workers who got shot by anti-union thugs while picketing their factory. Ask the victims of Gay bashing. Ask millions of victims. Fuck you! America did have its victims.

            Now, my main message here is: I am from the far, extreme, fringe, hard core left. Some pea brain righties think that equates to communists. That shows what ignoramuses they all are! As an anarchist, I ask: do you really think that we, on the extreme left, would cry ugly on the chance that Trump gets elected? On the contrary, we would celebrate by smoking pounds of weed! You just don’t get it! The sad fact is that Trump had four fucking years to establish a fascist state. Did he? Hell, no! Will he succeed next time around? No. Never. He is too stupid to conceive of the essence of a fascist state, let alone create one. He is a slave to his overblown ego. He would never garner the support of the U.S. military or the American people to actualize it.

            If you don’t vote for Biden, the lesser of the two evils, then fascism will certainly be worse under Trump. Biden fascism will be a moderate fascism. But go ahead, vote for a third-party candidate, or vote for Trump. See what happens.

            Now something unforeseen could occur before election day. One objective factor for your consideration is that average life expectancy for a man is 72 to 74 years. Both candidates are way past that range. There is that. Then, there is the mid-east crisis. That could devolve into the Third World War. And let’s not forget the Climate Crisis, which is rapidly escalating as you read this. Tornadoes could wipe out Texas, a flood could bury Florida beneath the sea. Let’s not ignore the possibility of assassinations, or a viral pandemic, either of which may cancel the election.

Hopefully nothing catastrophic will happen and all will proceed as normal. Biden gets re-elected and then dies of natural causes during his term; Vice President Kamala Harris becomes the first woman to become president.

So, over the next few months, enjoy life. Go on vacation instead of giving your hard-earned vacation money to a candidate.