#fandom toxicity

[longing-for-rain]

You know what I think a lot of people don’t realize about grooming is that, the person will almost always start pushing your boundaries in little, non-sexual ways.

For example, one big thing a person who groomed me did was joke about killing and eating my dog. She knew I love my dogs like they’re my children, and I’d told her those “jokes” made me uncomfortable. But she kept doing it. The same joke over and over again; it wasn’t even funny (“I believe all god’s creatures have a place…next to the potatoes”). At first I pushed back, but then it got to a point where I got tired of resisting and treated like I was stiff and couldn’t take a joke. So I relented on that boundary.

That alone might seem insignificant and dumb, but with groomers, as soon as they break down one boundary they’ll immediately start trying to break down another. And each little one they break, the more they get you used to letting them violate you to the point where you’re afraid to speak up against the bigger things.

So especially if you’re a younger person on the internet, never ignore when someone is making you uncomfortable especially if they’re much older. Even if it seems like a silly, insignificant thing. They know what they’re doing, and it’s important to stay safe.

[mwesrik]

Okay bit of a different post for the finale than my usual meme rant because I’m just done with everything today

Fandom is my safe space. It has been since I figured out what the internet was. And frankly I’ve been having a really shitty time recently.

And what the OFMD fandom is doing rn is frankly making me really fucking pissed

I understand being upset at character deaths. I understand being upset over budget cuts or lack of character development that you wished for. I understand being upset over the direction a show has taken.

But the way people are literally ABUSING the writers of a show that has been GROUNDBREAKING makes me sick.

YES! The budget cuts messed up the pacing and character development. You can think of Izzy’s death whatever you want. But to drag down a show, that has done so much for the queer community. With writers and actors and crew who have done their absolut best to make us feel seen and heard and to give us a mainstream story which is filled with queer joy. It just sets my teeth on edge.

I liked the finale. I cried over Izzy and wish HBO were less of a cunt firm and had given the show more episodes. I wish Ed and Stede had talked and I wish we had more episodes.

But I was overall happy. Because the main couple had their cheesy, happy moments. They literally said they loved each other for fucks sake. And everyone is fucking focused on Izzy and not even talking about the the main couple anymore. Not because they suck but because they’re not their blorbo they can project their angsty fantasies onto. And I like Izzy, I really fucking loved him but he was a side character. One that was quite obviously doomed to die since season 1. So saying the show is ‚literal dogshit now‘ is just such a wild jump to me.

His death was also obviously rushed because of the lack of time. It’s not the fault of the crew!!! that they had to adjust their script to the funds and time they were given.

I can’t come onto the internet to be happy about my favourite show being queer and dramatic and campy, and sure a bit messy because everything is fucking DRENCHED in toxicity and whinging.

Sorry if this offends anyone, if anyone even sees it but this really pissed me off today. My one thing that cheers me up made me even more depressed today because people have no inhibitions anymore as soon as their favourite media isn’t perfectly aligned with their image of how it should be.

TL,DR: I’m really over the OFMD fandom being toxic over Izzy and other issues while ignoring all the brilliant things this show has given us.

[plumsaffron]

I don’t normally criticize or even insult this hard but these are the few times I’ll do because I’m not the only one having enough of a certain fandom’s shenanigans:

I used to tolerate and even slightly like Miraculous Ladybug for several years since they were first released just bc their opening was catchy.

However, ever since “Chameleon” was released, it started a huge trend of Lila Rossi hate content. I’ve never seen such a magnitude of hatred on a controversial fictional character or even other characters who are innocent compared to previous shows I’ve watched. And y’all have seen it corrupt and infect other fandoms when they crossover since the late 2010s to even the present…

The last fucking straw was when I was searching for Kimetsu no Yaiba: Demon Slayer fics on here, an untagged salt fic showed up with it! I was like fuck this, I’m removing anything miraculous out of my social media blogs and bookmarks/favorites on fanfic sites I use!

And Thomas Astruc is a rather pathetic human being, because he projects himself a little too much by stating that Chole is based off of his past bully; him and his ex girlfriend had a virtual daughter, Marinette. I have nothing against self-inserts but this is a bad example, not letting go of the past that leaks into popularized fictional media where.

At this point I think Miraculous is not worth of anyone’s time, new curious viewers or former fans.

[angelasiol]

I would like to apologize for something I wrote but almost no one read. A couple of days ago I saw an analysis of the interview they did with Neil and where they talked about the impact that the requests for "a kiss between Crowley and Aziraphale" had had a negative feeling on Neil, who wrote about that kiss but not how people wanted.

In my writing I regret that the actions of the toxic fandom negatively influenced his work. I described it as Neil's revenge for the toxic requests where many of us were victims of that.

Someone reading tagged Neil asking if he had done that and he responded in my post "No." Out of shame I erased what I had written. I apologize to him if he reads this.

However, as a follower I feel that the toxic requests and the fandom's insistence on wanting to manipulate the author generate negative consequences.

I apologize to Neil for my unfortunate interpretation of the interview.

[disdaidal]

“i don’t understand the appeal of this character / ship”

then ignore it and move on

[weirdly-specific-but-ok]

I dunno if you know this already but I saw this post and like I can't tell what's more sad, that the poor host of the polls had to go through all of that bs that happened or that now what was supposed to be fun/a event of love got ruined because of people being, well, assholes 😭

https://www.tumblr.com/theshipwars/742219820704071680/hello-everyone-im-am-sorry-to-be-announcing?source=share

Oh my god, that is fucking awful. I really hope that the poll host is doing alright.

Hey, my maggots, I want to say that I hope you all were not triggered by the events of the poll (which I won't link here, but some extremely derogatory things were said in the notes, and there was misgendering of Aziraphale and Crowley involved). The conversation escalated to a place it shouldn't have. There's no need to go to that poll, or engage with it any further, but I do want to inform you.

I have a wider audience than most, so I think I should take the opportunity so say here, that please, please remember that these are stories. I understand that to these fictional characters we're all bringing our own stories, and these things get entangled until what was a show, movie or book represents something far larger. But fandom for many people is a place where they find safety, and where they can escape from the horrifying reality of the world for a few hours. Those two things can coexist, fandom can be a vehicle for change and representation, and it can also be a silly safe little imaginary world. They can coexist beautifully, if both sides are given the respect that they deserve.

These polls are meant to be light-hearted and a way for different fandom to engage with each other in playful competition. They should not have become a breeding ground for accusations, slurs and toxicity.

And there was a person behind that blog, who had to be bombarded with those notes, to the point that they are now overwhelmed, disheartened and triggered by the misgendering. I really, really hope they're okay.

I'm so grateful to you all for keeping this blog a safe place, which I hope it will continue to be, for people from all parts of the fandom. I think I'd better not reblog any polls in the future, however, because while I know this fandom, I have no idea at all about the others.

If I messed up anything in the post, or if you have a different opinion, please feel free to tell me! Just don't attack each other, I'm entirely open to being corrected and disagreed with. I'm not in the best state of mind right now to be making this post, too, but I figured I should try, even if I get some things wrong unintentionally.

Just. Be kind. Be kind, my maggots. To other people and also very importantly to yourselves. Yeah? You all are so bloody sweet and supportive and amazing. Keep being kind. I love you all.

[luaminesce]

I want to make one thing absolutely clear.

I don't hate Bayonetta 3. The gameplay is enjoyable and the character design great.

I don't hate anyone who liked B3. If you liked the game, more power to you.

What I do hate is this barrage of alt-right, gamer dudebros calling those who disliked the game, especially the ending, who critiqued the hetronormativity of said ending; or even just dislike it for unrelated reasons, "whiny sjws", "deluded shippers", and even have the audacity to be homophobic about it; or even harass them.

If we're going to be equal opportunities here, the same extends to those harassing the artists on X/Twitter. Yes, we're upset and disappointed about what happened. Yes, making BayoLuka canon was probably a mistake. But y'all don't need to go on their pages and yell their ears off for it. Y'all have your own accounts to yell from instead.

[clairedelune-13]

Fandoms are fun, but you gotta be careful, cuz if you dare to like a character that 99.9% of the fanbase despises, things get hairy real quick.

Like, god forbid you be an Anders fan and like his rivalmance or you like Sera as a character and don’t find her annoying. Yes, I do like Sebastian and his rivalry makes him a badass rebel.

Yes, I love Solas, am a proud Solasmancer. No, I don’t support his “Tear Down the Veil” crusade. (Though narratively speaking, I’m genuinely curious what would happen SHOULD he succeed)

[ironwoodprotectionsquad]

RWDE: You can block this tag if it's a problem. No one is making you watch this.

FNDM: I HaVe tHE RiGht hArAss YOu!

Where is the lie though? The fndm at large seems very weird about blocking the convenient tag that is solely for takes they hate because they seem to think they have a right to harass us about our takes. I have been told multiple times now that they don’t like people harassing others but I’m “kind of yikes” so they can’t really condemn it. Like I cannot even recall another fndm that behaves this toxically and tolerates harassment and death threats and even the video meant to discuss how toxic the fndm is spends most of the time pointing fingers at RWDE saying we need to be nicer and ignoring the death threats, the threats of violence, the harassment, ect we receive from the fndm that the fndm green lights happening.

It still boggles my mine how the fndm just refuses to even acknowledge that it’s bad and that maybe it should stop.

[longing-for-rain]

This is unacceptable behavior

So this morning, I found this blog who has apparently taken it upon themselves to “call out” anyone they suspect of using AI in either fan art or fanfics. No proof needed; just send them an anon ask and they’ll start throwing people under the bus.

This person is harassing artists, writers, and anyone who questions them. They’re even demanding that artists upload videos of themselves drawing by hand to “prove” they’re real.

Reading their blog gets even more disturbing. Apparently “suspicious activity” for artists can be something as simple as experimenting with a different style, having trouble drawing hands, improving too quickly, uploading too quickly, or even using digital watercolor. So essentially, artists deserve harassment for being too good, not good enough, or if they don’t use 100% traditional techniques. Do you really think that’s helping artists? All you’re doing is intimidating people away from their hobbies and encouraging toxicity. Cut it out.

For context, yesterday @azula-brain messaged me in my DMs to accuse me of AI usage. I explained that a) I don’t consider my images “AI art” in the sense of “push a button and it makes a picture” because I only use it as a filter over my existing work, b) that I’ve posted detailed explanations of my artistic process before and that still didn’t stop people from harassing me over anon. She also accused me of charging people for art, which I very clear state in my pinned post that I do not accept commissions.

I’m committing a crime by not using fully traditional art, and by having a tip jar (keep in mind, many blogs simply use the built in tumblr feature which is easily understood to be for tipping bloggers they like, not art commission payments). I told her I suggest she simply block and move on if she was unhappy, but apparently that wasn’t good enough, so she called me out by name instead along with the above noted misinformation after I refused to bow to her threats over DMs.

But anyways, I’m done caving to threats, and so should the rest of you. Nothing you do will ever appease the mob, and I’m sick of these literal children making blogs like this thinking they’re saving the world, when literally they’re just stirring up drama and harassing random artists who were doing nothing wrong.

[thundergrace]

Maybe if a popular influential white man says it, people will pay attention.

I don't even know what he's talking about specifically, but generally speaking, please fucking stop.

[maria-taiwin]

Honestly I understand people wanting to separate MDZS/The Untamed because there are various differences (for obvious reasons), but novel canon purists being hateful towards CQL!LWJ because "he's too petty and novel!lwj isn't" and I'm ??? I think novel!LWJ is the pettiest than the other versions, LOL. Not petty as arrogant and rude, but in his own unique way.

You have that different interpretation, fine, I also have mine and maybe we shouldn't fight over who is right on interpretations on fictional characters. But it baffles to me this blaming on CQL for every opinions (that maybe are just incorrect to you) but we could see the same point in the novel, maybe just on a different angle.

[sjbattleangel]

HellYeahHeroes/Grim Goblin, this needs to stop.

@hellyeahheroes

Before you say it, I'm not "tone-policing" or "censoring", I'm simply calling out your hateful toxicity. Once and for all. The way you demonized creators were-and still are-beyond disgusting. Instead of using your platform to celebrate comics as a fantastic medium and form storytelling, you have used it to personally attack writers you hold pretty grudges against. Let's get a few things out of the way:

Jonathan Hickman is NOT a fascist sympathizer or closeted Neo-Nazi.

Jason Aaron is NOT a misogynist, Reddit-dudebro militant atheist or an eugenics supporter.

Ed Brisson is NOT a homophobe, bigot or fascist sympathizer.

Dan Slott is NOT a racist, misogynist, pervert or fascist sympathizer.

Donny Cates is NOT a homophobe, misogynist or Nazi apologist.

James Tynion IV, Scott Snyder and Joshua Williamson are NOT fascist sympathisers nor does Williamson support eugenics.

But most importantly: They are NOT hacks.

It was never about "wanting well-written stories", "having your favourite characters treated with respect" or "criticising crappy writing", no. Comics completely aside, it was all an excuse to lead hate campaigns. Because you hate them as people. Full stop.

Way before you read any of their work, once you saw their faces and names, you've held a deep parasocial hatred against them for existing. Why? Did they personally hurt you? Did they run over your dog? Did they force you to watch them eat your goldfish? Did they shove you into lockers? Did you see them burn an orphanage of puppies and kittens and then get away with it by claiming it was in "self-defence?" Did they take a massive, stinking dump in the middle of your living room and demand that you pay for it? Why? What did any of these creators do to you? Was sending all those death threats necessary? You're no "critic" or "champion of progress", you're a bully. No better than the supervillains your heroes fight against.

Cass, Kamala, Jen, Carol, The Champions, Runaways, New Mutants, New Warriors, Academy-X New X-Men would be ashamed of you.

[curator-on-ao3]

I hope Jess receives a lot of love and support and Chapel gets hyped because Twitter is already being hateful after the official trailer shows Spock and Christine kiss. I hate fandom misogyny and biphobia disguised as gay rights activism 😭

Wait. What? What’s happening? I avoid Twitter (went on today for the first time in a while because I didn’t know how else to access the new trailer).

Someone, please help me out and clue me in. This sounds icky and I want to be ready to defend against it.

[socialism-or-barbarism-canada]

Clerith deniers dominating FFVII fandom and trying to force Cloti down everyone’s throats are toxic as hell. Just because your ship can be perceived as “endgame” thanks to certain plot points and interpretations popularized by the Compilation dosen’t give you the right to unironically bully everyone into submission!

Not to mention denying the existence of a “love triangle” and downplaying every single indication that Aerith might have wanted to love the real Cloud but couldn’t because of her death in favor of a “two people in love, one woman projects her dead ex onto one of the people in love, thankfully she dies” and trying to force this view on the fandom robs the story and the gaming industry of one of it’s greatest tragedies.

The story was always up for interpretation but outright denying parts of the FFVII story that flow stronger when viewed as a “love that could mever be….destroyed by a hatred that always was” weakens parts of the narrative and admittly dosen’t even mesh with Cloud’s guilt post gaining his memories back