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#given the amount of posts that i see that are basically fic writers begging for more interaction
birlwrites · 2 years
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nope. nailed it. i know exactly what's bothering me about writing right now: the fact that i often feel like i'm less of a human and more of a Free Content Dispenser™ to the people reading my stuff
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re: your tags on the post defending people being dramatique about reblogs; whoever ghosted you over that is a dick, but also there has GOT to be a happy medium between "fuck you if you don't reblog everything you feel positively about" and "fuck you for asking for reblogs" like omg, tumblrinas plz, i am begging for like half an ounce of nuance i know this is the internet but please for the love of the blorbos stop the madness *headdesk*
I mean, yeah, I don't actually think guilt/shame is a good motivation for engaging with fandom, for a lot of different reasons, and tbh the overall tone of the post I just reblogged is probably more abrasive or something than what I've reblogged before or said myself. I mostly just reblogged this one because apparently I can't get over how hurt I feel over the whole basically-being-ghosted-by-a-long-term-friend thing (especially given that it made me feel really insane in a specifically neurodivergent way, like, "either I have massively misinterpreted literally everything about this relationship for years because I fundamentally don't understand friendship or social interactions in general, or you didn't mean anything you said to me, or you changed the rules at some point and didn't tell me").
but it's also just...deeply frustrating that even the mildest posts saying "if you don't do some very basic things to support the fanworks you like, you will start seeing a lot less of those fanworks, because those creators will get discouraged and stop producing it" gets categorized as whining or guilt-tripping when it isn't, it's literally just describing cause and effect. there are other posts scolding fan creators for expressing that discouragement or asking for a little damn engagement because we just want to feel like we're part of a community, all of which just contributes to the atmosphere of discouragement.
and it feels increasingly bizarre to me the more time I spend on Instagram, following all kinds of artists and small businesses, all of whom talk a lot about how important engagement is to what they do and how much their work lives and dies by The Algorithm and how crucial it is for people to take a few seconds and boost stuff they like because otherwise it just gets lost to the void, and I don't see the same backlash there of "well you should just be satisfied with creating for yourself, you shouldn't worry about stats, stop whining for attention, stop guilt-tripping people," whatever. granted, it's a different matter when there's money involved, because with a small business whose only source of advertising is social media, we're talking about someone's actual livelihood, but there's a huge amount of crossover with literally any artist--fanartist or otherwise--given that loads of them do also have Patreons or Ko-fi links or shops with physical items, or maybe they don't start out that way but when they build an audience organically they're able to bring in some actual money. and I've definitely seen people who aren't primarily selling things, who really are just producing art as a hobby, but still ask people to share their stuff because it encourages them to make more, and that seems to be seen as perfectly legitimate, except on Tumblr and also Reddit. fanfic is a little different because it's inherently an extremely bad idea to monetize, so there isn't the angle of "of course you want to share this so your favorite writer can keep food on the table!" but it doesn't seem like a huge stretch to say it follows a similar principle, right? if you like it, it just makes sense to support it in some small way, because then you're more likely to keep getting it? and if you don't make any effort to support it, then you can't complain when you stop getting it? (making this very basic point got me downvoted on r/Fanfiction because of course it did.)
and, I don't know, I personally get really discouraged begging for reblogs, and it would feel a lot better if I didn't have to. not even just my own fic (although, yes, especially that), but original posts about helpful resources or awesome Kickstarters or fic recs or cool free games or "hey this artist is doing charity commissions, look at their awesome art, please reblog so they can raise money for this important cause" mostly just all kinda fall into the void. not that I'm at all unique in that respect, obviously; anyone who doesn't have a big audience deals with that frustration (while people who do have big audiences get to deal with different problems, as I understand it, although I certainly wouldn't know from experience). it just sucks, you know?
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glorified-red · 3 years
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Classify the boys as they types of fanfic writers you've encountered. :))))
Thank you so much for the request! Don't think I have to tell you how much it means to me to open up my Tumblr and see 10 asks sitting in my inbox.
The BatBoys as Fanfic Writers on Tumblr
word count: 1100~
warnings: none
Dick Grayson: The Popular One
Mostly known for his AU’s because he comes up with completely original AU’s no ones ever even considered writing about
Focuses more on plot rather than feelings, very dialogue heavy
Has done a coffee shop AU
Probably a mermaid AU if you dig deep enough
He likes to go into detail about minute things in his storyline that have nothing to do with the plot but it makes the read much more interesting
Longest taglist ever
Gets plenty of asks asking to be put on his taglist and he's always super sweet when answering them
Very, very interactive fanbase
Spends hours making headers just because it looks cool
Uses pretty dividers
His master list is so aesthetically pleasing you could stare at it for hours, probably even has a key
Dick doesn't like posting regularly, instead he likes to post whenever he has the time or feels like it
Makes up for lack of new content by reblogging things
Reblogs like a champ and WILL spam reblog
Leaves an insane amount of nice comments on every fic he reads
If he follows your blog you have his profile pic memorized because he likes to interact incredibly often 
Super bright pfp that's easily memorizable
Does not mind doing a face reveal
Huge following and very popular
Insane amount of mutuals and their biggest supporter 
Always does tag games and tags like twenty people
Super long bio
Jason Todd: The Realist
Has a “Dark Blog”
Jason likes to bring awareness to real world situations through his writing so it can get dark real quick on his blog
Makes sure to tag thoroughly and has plenty of warnings throughout his blog
Mood-boards Mood-boards Mood-boards Mood-boards
Probably doesn't use dividers but uses ----- or ~~~~
NSFW blog but super kinky that his summary/warnings can be a whole story in itself
Puts his own poetry up ONCE and his fanbase begged him for more because it was so good
Regularly has a poetry night where his fans can send some of their poetry in and Jason will give advice/react/add on etc
Has a horny night right after just to spite his followers
Jason has two separate blogs, one dark and one is a casual one for ‘normal’ fics so his fans can stay comfortable
Probably has a cheesy name for his dark blog like “After Hours” or “Dark Mode”
His profile picture is an aesthetic picture like smoke or a gun on his dark blog and the colors are just inverted on his light blog due to laziness
A good amount of followers but they’re all really interactive and act like a small family circle
Doesn't do tag games
He has like 3 mutuals he regularly talks to and one of them is an irl friend
Likes to remind his followers to drink water or go eat at random but then is the one to get snarky with them or bonk them on the head for getting too horny in his inbox
Writes about feelings a lot, goes very in depth to what his characters are feeling at any given moment, physically and mentally
Has his pronouns in his bio
Tim Drake: The Original Novelist
Very elaborate writer
Sucks at dialogue but makes up for it with his lore and descriptions
Does a ton of original work, has like ten original series’ in his master list with more than fifteen parts each
Makes his own worlds with his own lore but adds in the characters because he still wants to write for his fandom
Basically an author already
Uses words you have to google sometimes
Requests are closed and doesn't respond to feedback in his inbox but secretly rereads them
Tim’s master list is intricate with multiple links to other master lists
Pretty basic/boring headers/dividers to not distract from the links
Posts at random, can go a month or two without posting a fic and then posts nothing but fics for a week straight
Too scared to reblog things at first, barely ever likes things either
Uses the tags very often to scream into the void
Reblogs things that has nothing to do with the fandom he writes for that you'll get whiplash every time you open his blog from how random it can be
On the rare occasions Tim does comment or reblog, he’ll quote a specific line from the fic and scream about how good it was
His profile pic is a random ass photo he liked one day and refuses to change it even if it has nothing to do with his fandom
Refuses to do a face reveal but does post cosplay photos with his face blurred or a mask on
Decent following and only popular because of one original series that blew up
Tim had a few mutuals and hypes them up in private so he can tell them each and every moment he enjoyed in their fic
Does tag games but always says “I tag whoever wants to do this” because he never knows who to tag
His bio is literally just his masterlist because he has a separate bio in there
Damian Wayne: The Conversationist 
Mainly does headcanons but when he does sit down and write, its hella long and very well thought out
Loves writing body language and going into depth about the flaws of his characters
His writing is not fancy at first but its very immersive - one line in and you can easily picture everything, very good at imagery
Damian opens his askbox for headcanons from his followers and will disprove them with facts or add on with his version of canon 
Amazingly good at characterization as if he wrote the character himself 
No headers, he only uses titles
He doesn't even see the point in dividers until someone shows him then he decides to makes his own (insanely good btw)
Posts on a regular schedule to the point that you don't even need his notifs on, you can just open your phone on a certain and know Damian posted
Does not reblog things, its his own blog so why should he reblog other people's things? 
Strictly a writing blog so its very easy to scroll through and see nothing but fics
He has his pet as his profile picture
Not the biggest follower count but he doesn't care about it, he came to write nothing else
No mutuals, only people he knows of and interacts with but does not consider them mutuals
His bio is super simple, just “Writer of __ fandom”
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Taglist ♡
@anothertimdrakestan
@bungunz
@red-hood-redemption​
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ghost-chance · 4 years
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Fanfiction Recommendation: “Fat. Beautiful. Tasty. Ravenous” by MoofyKitten
Title: Fat. Beautiful. Tasty. Ravenous Author: MoofyKitten on AO3/FFN/Wattpad Fandom: BNHA/My Hero Academia Rating: M/MA for a reason. (Detailed sex in over half the posted chapters. Perv away only if you’re of age!) Pairing(s): Fat Gum [Toyomitsu Taishirou] / OFC Found on: AO3
Deets Expect some light spoilers and a mini-rant.
I am an unrepentant fanfiction addict; this is no secret. There are fics I read to wind down after a rough day, fics I read to put myself to sleep in hopes of pleasant dreams, and fics I read to tear my hear into teeny tiny fragments then build it back again better than before. THEN there are fics that don’t fit the mold – the kind that I become so invested in that I physically cannot put off reading that update. THIS, my lovelies, is one of THOSE fics, and it’s earned that place from the early chapters. This story has almost everything I need from a fanfiction, and I have a feeling the rest is just around the corner.
Let’s get the basics out of the way.
The Spelling, grammar, and punctuation are all excellent – I have yet to notice a single error, so either the author and her betas are a force to be reckoned with or I’m just getting so sucked into the story an elephant could sit on me and I’d never notice. The formatting is effective and easy to follow, and the chapters have all been of a nice meaty length, perfect for plowing through in a single sitting only to realize you missed a meal and it’s time for bed and your brain is hopelessly lost in ship-land daydreaming about what’s up next. ...wait, that’s just me? My bad.
Syntax – This one requires an entire section of its own. The fact that I’m having to actually think about how well the author’s varying their syntax says they’re effing nailing it. If a story’s syntax is at all static or the sentence even the slightest bit predictable, it’s easy enough for me to recall it because I’m mentally rearranging the bits that irk or don’t impress me as I read. I can’t even get through a bleepin’ news article or an online recipe without itching to push what I’m reading up to the standards my professors held. It sounds harsh, I know, but please take  my word for it when I say I’m not criticizing anyone. Suffice it to say, if my classes did anything, they made editing so instinctive I can’t turn it off. Confession: I have never found myself rearranging a single phrase in this masterpiece. Arguing with the characters? Encouraging the characters? Begging, pleading, and berating the characters for breaking my heart time and time again by stopping just short of the sugary fluff I can just smell right around the corner? Oh, Hell yes. I’ve done all of that and more, but I’ve never found myself with the urge to grab my red pen and strike out or scooch even a single word.
Something that strikes me about this story above others I’ve given the same rating (Spoiler: there are VERY FEW!) is the sheer variety of the scenes and environments. Sounds silly? Probably, but romances often develop a certain amount of location stagnation, and I know from personal experience how difficult it can be to bust through those patterns. (I mean, the majority of “A New Lease on Life” takes place in the Lair in some room, most commonly a bedroom, the lab, or the kitchen.) This story takes the couple off of familiar and ‘safe’ turf like homes and offices and drags them through countless other places without regard for their sense of comfort. Each scene feels real and multi-dimensional and directly or indirectly influences the characters’ behavior and reactions. It’s awesome. That’s a sign the author has done her people-watching!
Now, about that OC. I’ll readily admit, in the first chapter, I had my reservations. At first glance she seemed shallow, obsessed with appearances and her own view of the world, and – strange as it may sound – too skinny and too attractive. Yes, there’s some personal bias involved there, but the majority was practical rather than emotional. BUT! Because the writer of this story is the same who unleashed the beautiful Kacchako torment Hot-Headed upon me without a single breath of remorse, I gave Aiko a chance. Sure enough, my first impressions were entirely incorrect. The things that bothered me about Aiko? They all had explanation or purpose, and she’s turned out to be a pretty well-fleshed out character...pun intended. As the story progresses we’re seeing sides of her that I hoped for but didn’t expect and each chapter leaves me wondering what we’ll learn next.
Romantic connection. First word: “OOFTA.” The second word, I’d spell out, but it’s a shrill, wordless, begging whine that I cannot translate into English for the life of me. This pairing starts without any sort of romantic connection; it skips straight to the shenanigans and leaves hope that the snugglebunnies will follow eventually. Friends…if you’ve read any of my writing before, you’ll know that I. LIVE. For. The. FLUFF. The awkward mush, the sweaty palms, the am-I-gonna-barf-or-do-I-have-a-crush, the absolutely tooth-rotting sweetness capable of sending a reader headlong into diabetes with a dopey grin and heart eyes - they’re my crack and I love them. This story started with no fluff but it’s been slowly developing in the background. It’s an entirely new situation for me! I feel like I’ve gotten used to eating my dessert first then digging into an equally sweet dinner without a moment to cleanse my palate. This story? It’s like gorging on smoky, meaty St. Louie barbecue for weeks on end with literally just a smear of something sweet as an afterthought. Mind. Frackin’. BLOWN. It turns out I’m more masochistic as a reader than I ever suspected.
Another relationship I want to cover is the building friendship between Aiko and Fat Gum – because nope, she has not managed to mentally connect the half-starved Taishiro she’s climbing like a tree with the big-and-beautiful Fat Gum who owns the agency. Yep. She thinks she’s boning Fat’s beefy little brother. It’d be funny if my heart wasn’t whining for fluff. While frustrating to fluff-starved readers, Aiko not knowing the beefcake and the brother are one and the same provides an intriguing and natural way for her to build an actual relationship with him. This means none of the fetishistic bullarkey rampant in other stories pairing plus-sized male characters with OCs.
What sort of fetishistic bullarkey am I talking about? To name a handful: I love you so lose weight. I love you because you’re big. I’m fat too so it’s okay if we’re together. Blatant fat-fetish disguised as romance. Fat character’s life absolutely revolves around food and it’s gross/nvm it’s okay. Lastly, OC’s only chance at being loved by fat character is feeding them. Maybe to thin folks those don’t sound negative but to those of us who fit the description? NOPE. These don’t make healthy relationships. Using these can turn a well-meaning pairing toxic and frankly, it tends to piss off those of us who – GASP! - accept ourselves no matter our size. These...tropes, let’s call them, have made me hesitant to even try fiction involving plus sized male characters because I’ve been let down so many times. Finding plus sized female characters is easy, especially OCs, but appreciation for the chonky bois isn’t nearly as common. They need love too, dammit!
Ahem. Rant over.
As mentioned before, I ain’t seen any of that crap in this story. This author is treating Fat Gum like she would any other character instead of focusing on the fat. I wish with all my heart that more authors were capable of (and willing to) do the same with Fat Gum, and with other plus sized male characters. I can’t even put into words how much it means to me that she’s doing such a fantastic job portraying a character type that so many writers bungle without ever realizing it. I’ve needed this story my entire life and never realized it wasn’t there; I shudder to think of how long I might have been waiting for it if this author never found the inspiration to do so.
If I don’t shut up now, I fear I never will. I love this story that much. Moving on.
Warnings
Explicit sexual content – do NOT read this around your family unless you have a stronger will than I and can do so without creeping them out. (According to my husband, when I read smut I “look like a demented vulture staring down at a half-flattened ‘possum waiting for it to take its last breath,” complete with hunched shoulders and heavy breathing. Flattering, I know.) The smut scenes, while not my usual cuppa tea, wreck. My brain? Broke. Chapter four’s budding romance? It’s goin’ on my headstone ‘cuz I’m dead.
There are mentions of human trafficking and the future may include more about it. Slut-shaming comes up a few times because men are assholes and asshole exes are the ultimate assholes. Situational fat-shaming and lack of body confidence come up as Aiko comes to recognize Fat Gum for who he is instead of what he is; on the other end of the tag, Fat is also doing a lot of it to himself even when it isn’t spelled out. You can see it behind some of his reasoning in his POV chapters and since the writer is kickass at portraying thoughts and feelings without ever breaking out of restricted POV, you can also see hints in other chapters. That said, if the shaming was really bad without any redeeming purpose, I’d have noped my way right out’a that fic and never looked back. It has a purpose, and it’s not that bad. Give it a chance.
Recommendation level
This story lacks purple prose and excessive fluff, and I haven’t seen any signs of the pop culture, literary, and music references I love so dearly, but the rating remains the same:
Ten. Out. of. Farking. TEN!
YES! I’ve finally found another 10/10!!! A quick reminder for anyone who’s managed to not see my other reading recc posts, I don’t even need both hands to count off all the 10/10s I’ve read. Congratulations, Ms. MoofyKitten – your story rocks my world and I have an addiction I do not care to shake!
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spanishrose2002 · 4 years
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I just saw a post that basically states that authors should respond to every comment, etc. on their fics.  It was also connected to the idea that a person shouldn’t feel the need to comment or review if the author isn’t providing them with sufficient responses to their comments/reviews.  While I’ve got time, I’ll respond to this.
I beg your pardon if you don’t like my opinion.  These are simply my thoughts on the matter.  The “you” here is a hypothetical you that is really that person who believes that they should stop commenting/reviewing if not getting sufficient return attention from the fic author.  
This is going to be long and multi-layered, so it’s under a cut.  
Let me begin by saying that I do have aspirations and dreams of responding to everything, but I’m terrible at it and I get behind.  Sometimes, you might get an onslaught of responses from me all at once as I catch up on years of fic.    However, I will say that people need to step back and look at the amount of responsibility this heaps on the shoulders of the writers.  Everyone’s entitled to their opinions, but consider this.   You want the writer to spend hours/days/etc. writing you fic.  Of course you’re going to be picky about said fic, so you want it to be edited.  You want it to have compelling characters, interesting plot, and dynamic dialogue.  You want it to fix all the canon problems you see, have all your favorite tropes without having the tropes you don’t like, etc.   You’ll also want those updates in a timely manner, because who likes waiting?  You’ll be worried that the fic might be abandoned, and you’ll be stuck partway through a story without the ending, so you don’t want there to be too much time in between updates, just in case it’s a sign that the author has given up on the fic. Then, apparently, you’ll want the author to be sure to respond, in a timely manner, to any comment or review that you decide to give them.  Otherwise, they’re not appreciative enough of you for you to give them feedback, and you’ll hold back any response, recognition, or indication that anyone is reading and enjoying their work.  That’s what they deserve, after all, if they don’t respond the way that you think they should--whether or not you’ve communicated your expectations. They do all of this, of course, for free (at least if they’re writing fanfic legally, they’re not taking payment).  
In fact, the only payment fic authors get comes in the form of comments and reviews.  That’s it.
But let’s just consider this.  This is one fic author’s point of view and life experience. I work full time.  I have, up until weeks ago, been working full time AND taking classes.  I have a family and friends.  I have a home to keep clean, adult tasks to accomplish, etc.  I also need to eat, sleep, exercise, and occasionally do other things.   The fic I write is done in the “down time” that I have around everything else.  If I’m writing, I’m not doing those other things.  I’m also not partaking in any other hobby.  
I am physically disabled, and my disability is the result of early traumatic brain damage.  This has a variety of implications.  There’s no need to go into all of the effects this has on my daily life.  
Believe it or not, my brain is tired sometimes.  I’m tired sometimes.   The only payment I get, like other fic writers, for writing comes in the form of comments and reviews.  Those are practically my writing lifeblood.  They are what keep my motivation and inspiration high.  They’re what ensure that the next chapter is (eventually) coming.  Without them, the motivation drains away, and I loose stamina, which can lead to inertia and the inability to get going on a fic again.
I read, and reread, and reread comments and reviews all the time.  I’ll even reread them if I’m stuck on another fic or just having a terrible day.
I am slow to think of responses to comments, which is why I don’t often respond to all of them.  I want to say the right thing, of course.  It can be difficult to know how to respond to some comments.  I will hesitate and spend a lot of time trying to respond to comments.  If I’m responding to reviews, I’m probably  not writing that day.  It uses a different part of my brain or something, so it breaks the writing rhythm for me.  I may not write the next day, either.   If I respond to comments, I often cut my writing down to 1/4 or less of what I would have normally written.  That means no fic updates.   If I respond to comments, I accept that I won’t be writing.  I will be breaking my rhythm, and I may not get back to writing for days or even a week or two, depending on my real life and how little writing time I had.
But I read every comment a ton of times.  I go back to them.  I rely on them to keep writing.   And, now, people like this person put the burden entirely on me.  It’s my job to write the story (around my real life) and to make sure that it’s everything that someone might want.  It’s my job to keep it going.  And, if I want any kind of interaction at all, or validation that I’m not wasting hours upon hours of my life, it’s my job to make sure that this person feels like I’ve given them enough feedback for their feedback.  
It’s all my responsibility, if I want anyone to enjoy my work and to let me know that I’m not screaming into the void.  
And that’s a lot of responsibility along with all the real life responsibility.   Now, that’s not to say that I’m unavailable.  I’ll absolutely answer direct messages and attempts to reach out and talk to me about fic.  I love it.  I’ll happily chat with someone that wants to chat and get to know me.  I’ll try to answer questions that are clearly not hypothetical.   But I may not answer every comment, and that doesn’t mean that I don’t appreciate every single one and crave that interaction.  It doesn’t mean that I’m not available and wouldn’t love to chat sometimes.   It means that I’m an adult with a full time job and a full time life.   It means that I’m disabled and neurodivergent, and I only have so much energy per day and, often, if I have any left over, I try to spend that writing for those who want more fic to read.  I need to know if you’d rather have consistent replies than more chapters, since I tend to err on the side of creating more fic. It means that I’m an introvert and it’s difficult to know how to respond to everything. It means that I can’t carry all the burden for the whole interaction and, if I have to, then it simply seems to exhausting.   If you read fic--not just mine, anybody’s fic--please leave comments and reviews.  Please.  On every single chapter you read, and especially if you ever want more of that fic or more work from that author.  It means the world to the writers.  If what you want is to thank them for their work, to let them know you appreciate it, and to inspire them to write more, please leave comments and reviews.  Give them those few moments as payment for the hours they put into providing you with some pleasure. If what you want is interaction with the author, message them.  Reach out to them.  Let them know that you would like to chat with them.  Make that clear in your comment or review.  If they understand that’s what you would like, I’m certain they’d love to talk to you.  Most authors love chatting about their work. But don’t put all the burden on them.  They’ve done their best to connect with you by providing something for you both to enjoy.  Show them some grace.  
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giasonesdream · 4 years
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Track Your Fic’s Success on AO3
Fanfic Writing on AO3 (for ARMYS)
I'm not sure why I felt the need to make this, but I have heard writers talk about this topic before, of not getting much traction on their fics. There's a part of it that really does fall on the readers, but this is a post to maybe help get you on the right path or maybe change your perspective on the stats given to you (aka kudos, hits, comments, etc).
The 10% Idea
Basically, this is just something to keep in mind if you see that there aren't many kudos on your story.
I used to have a friend that said pretty much this: If the amount of kudos is 10% of the amount of hits you have, then it's deemed a good fic. That is to say, even if your story only gets 50 kudos out of 500 people that read it, you're in the clear.
I'll be using screenshots of my own works as example because I have a range of decently well-received stories to not well received at all.
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So this one has almost exactly 10% the amount of kudos.
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This, which has only a whopping 5 kudos is in the 10% (it’s actually not it’s 2am and my brain is shitting itself but I’m gonna make a point with this one regardless so leave my math error alone}
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Meanwhile, this fic only has 55 kudos even though, presumably, over 2k people read it.
There are a few things that should be taken into consideration here:
THE SHIP: it's no shock to anyone -especially writers- that there are favoured ships in our fandom. Taekook and Jikook take the first place spot followed by Yoonmin (this one actually was named the top ship on all of ao3 a couple years ago!) along with yoonseok/sope maybe Namjin? This is all to say, if you write about a ship that isn't necessarily popular, not many people will read your work. That isn't to say that you should only write for certain ships. Please write what you want and what you feel! I cannot stress enough that all of this should be for fun or maybe even practice if writing is your passion.
But let’s look back at the three fics I pointed out. The first one with 400 kudos is taekook, so it had a better chance of getting seen by more people. In fact, 4k people clicked on it and potentially read that story...but the next fic with only 5 kudos is yoonmin. Aren’t they a popular ship? Why did only 100 people read it? And vhope isn’t necessarily a popular ship now (it had its time earlier on back when Rookie King came out, and the veterans for that ship are still fighting, me included!) but 2k people clicked on that and only 55 of those 2k liked it enough to leave a kudos. So, if it’s not the ship, what else could it be?
THE TAGS: tagging a story is very detrimental when posting on a site like this or any other, really. Many people like to narrow their searches down based on the criteria. Being able to filter what fics a person sees can make or break a work’s traction. My yoonmin story is a horror fic, and I’m sure there aren’t very many readers looking to get scared. As an avid reader myself, there is no denying that I -as well as many other readers- are interested in reading smut. Whether it be a one shot that’s quick and easy, or maybe it’s a slow-burn that tallies up to just being a written rom-com series, if you specify in the tags that smut is in this story, people are more willing to give it a try. For the vhope fic, I didn’t mention smut, but I did put in the tags some subgenres of smut. You can’t have “over stimulation” without sex, right? 
But, again, I feel the need to stress this: do not write smut if you are not comfortable with it! Despite the fact that a lot of us are thirsty, shameless fiends, there about just as many people that are only here for the cutesy, lovey-dovey shit. That taekook fic doesn’t have any sex in it, nor did I ever mention that there was a possibility of sex. It doesn’t go past being flirty in the span of 2k words. So, then, if a fic with a popular ship can do well without having sex in it, what else is making people click on it?
THE SUMMARY: I...am such a huge advocate for summaries. There’s a nice fine line between going into too much detail or not enough. This is why I normally go the route of putting in an excerpt from the story and then add a TLDR (Too Long Don’t Read) in the form of an “OR” followed by an incredibly oversimplified idea of what the story is about. As you can see, I didn’t do that for the yoonmin fic. I only put in an excerpt that -quite frankly- is boring narrative. The reason as to why I chose that in the first place is because the horror aspect of the fic is where any dialogue comes in- which brings me to the next point!
This could just be me, but I do tend to click on stories that have dialogue in the summary. This is going to depend on if the reader cares more about dialogue or narration, but think of the story as if it were a new movie coming out or preview to a new episode of a show. Do these videos only broadcast the actors simply moving around? No, they like to add in clips from scenes, use dialogue where you can sort of understand what the context of the scene might be, but not enough context so you’ll want to watch and see what the fuck they’re talking about.
So, if you’ve gotten to this part, you have probably realized that all I did was just tell you how you can market your writing so that more people will click on it and possibly read it all the way through. And really, these aren’t necessarily sure, guaranteed ways of becoming the next “The Fic” in our fandom, but I can assure that just taking more time to consider these aspects can allow you to contemplate what works for you as well as the audience. 
That’s that on that. The next thing I want to talk about some stuff I didn’t cover that are just as important:
Comments (and Bookmarks)
This is probably the biggest thing I ever hear/read/see artists of any sort complain about. And with good reason! As a writer, it truly does wonders to get feedback of almost any sort, even if it’s just a critique on how something was worded. Comments mean that we’re not just throwing our art out into a vast void. Effort was put into the art we created, so if you enjoyed it, effort put into commenting is much appreciated. But this isn’t another rant begging the audience to please just let us know how you felt. No, I’m here to mention that we should not let the number of kudos overshadow the interactions.
More examples. And keep in mind that taekook fic. Feel free to scroll back up and look at the amount of comments on that work. Now take a look at these:
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So, 8.1k read this fic...and only 250 people liked it...but boy did this story cause some sort of reaction because people W E N T O F F! And rest assured, none of the comments were necessarily negative. The majority of them are just people being like “wha- how could they >.<”
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Everything seems to be pretty even across the board. 2.6k readers, 220 kudos, about 20 or so comments (that’s excluding my replies). 
As I mentioned before, comments are so important. The taekook fic I wrote that seemed to garner enough traction where 4k people read it and 400 people liked it enough to leave a kudos, only a handful of those readers left a comment. It kinda makes me think of instagram. How strange does it look if a picture gets 10k likes but only has maybe 10 or 20 comments. Something seems a bit off, doesn’t it? I can see how this sounds entitled, but my sole purpose in bringing this up is because those numbers can be discouraging. And I want to stress how important it is to look at your works, cherish the comments you get even if the number of hearts seems low in comparison. Some of my most heartfelt comments are on that Taegi fic just above. And it makes them all the more special because this has been my favourite story to write. So even though not many have read it (whether it be because the ship isn’t popular or I didn’t do a good job of summarizing the fic where it seemed interesting) the people that clicked on an liked it felt the need to comment some absolutely amazing words. And those are the comments that should keep you going and growing.
I’ll also just add this little tidbit because it wasn’t something I noticed until recently, you should also check the bookmarks. People are able to leave comments and tags in their bookmarks, and I believe those to be extensions of comments. Not only did people feel like saving this work you wrote, but they might just let out some of their feelings in the tags, like the tags section of a tumblr post or the comment on a retweet.
There is no rule or formula that I particularly know of for getting more comments -aside from using the note section to say “let me know what you think” or “comments are always appreciated!”. I think this aspect somewhat depends on the story itself. That taekook fic I wrote is probably one of the more “cookie-cutter” things I have written. Tropes are great, they normally have a plot and formula that people can follow and know what’s going to happen. And they’re tropes for a reason: they’re common and entertaining. I know I don’t always like to go the route of writing tropes. I have accepted that the style in which I write is not always catered towards the general audience, but that is completely okay!
As I said before, this is for fun. You write because you have a story you want to tell, and you feel so passionately about it that you take the time and effort to write it. If my numbers have proven anything, it’s that your fics will find their niche. It’s always going to fit someone. And it’s important to really appreciate those that seem to like what you’re writing, even if the greater audience doesn’t vibe with it.
And that’s that on that.
So, since we’ve gone over all this, I just wanted to say that I am open to helping writers. I know this post probably isn’t the best representation, but I’m pretty damn good at spelling and grammar. I’m not a novelist, don’t have any published works floating anywhere on the New York Times Best Seller list, but I have been writing since I was seven years old. With fifteen years of experience and having worked with authors in the past on potential books, I am always more than happy to pass on any knowledge I have gained over the years. If it’s wording something to make it flow better, trying to fill any plot holes or answer questions of character motivations, of if you should be using “there”, “they’re”, or “their”, I would love to help. All ya gotta do is message me :)
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Fic Recs Mega Post
Whenever I write one of these posts I’m struck by the sheer amount of incredible writing talent in this little fandom of ours. It is quite astonishing, and it’s a privilege to get to read all of this wonderful work. Below there’s a small selection of the fantastic stuff I’ve been reading recently, featuring gods, monsters and feral jungle men - and that’s just for starters!
Storms (series) by @lovecrimevariations (KareliaSweet): This frankly astonishing series starts out in barnstorming but fairly innocuous style in Where Are The Storms I Was Promised, in which Will Graham, famous monster hunter, is called to deal with the Wendigo that’s been terrorising an entire town. And then it proceeds, over the course of a further six instalments, to document the beautiful, bloody, often painful course of the relationship between Will and Hannibal, constantly deepening and recontextualising the ‘verse as it goes. Reading this series is almost like watching a really good magic trick – every time you think you’ve got its measure, it pulls something new and surprising out of its hat. And it’s not just flash and sparkle either, the writing is utterly beautiful, the characters are perfectly captured and it is both deeply funny and enormously moving (I was genuinely weepy a number of times throughout). Plus, it also features a majestic, powerful, do-not-under-any-circumstances-fuck-with incarnation of Bedelia, who is worth the price of admission all by herself. Seriously, she was my favourite part of this whole series and I love it beyond any sense or reason. If you have any love of writing whatsoever, read this series, it is a masterclass.
You’ll be in my heart by @starkaryen: Based on the totally beautiful art (here and here) by @camilleflyingrotten, here Will is a scientist on an expedition to find and study gorillas. Instead, he ends up finding Hannibal, a mostly-feral man who lives in the jungle, has an adopted gorilla family, and takes an immediate shine to Will. Who, because this is Will and Hannibal, finds himself taking a shine right back. And all is rosy in Camp Hannigram, until Jack damn Crawford sticks his nose in (like always) and threatens Hannibal’s way of life. As befits the utterly gorgeous artwork, this fic is just lovely from start to finish. It features a particularly adorable version of Hannibal – the scenes in which he indulges his obsession with Will’s safari hat are nothing short of precious – and a charmingly earnest Will. It’s a simple, innocent bit of loveliness, which is rather refreshing in this dark and sophisticated fandom of ours XD.
(Also, if you’d like a little more Tarzan AU, this time with an A/B/O flavour, check out Hannizan by @hotsauce418, which is just pure filth and utterly wonderful with it XD.)
We, the common by @thelongcon23 (thelongcon): A retelling of the show (and beyond) in omegaverse style, this fic alternates masterfully between Hannibal and Will’s POVs as the omega becomes fascinated, obsessed, and ultimately falls in love with the alpha. The result is that while the course of events remains largely the same         (Will still gets framed and gutted, and they still go over the cliff in each other’s arms), others change drastically (the way Will locates Hannibal in Florence, for instance, gets a very clever omegaverse twist). And their relationship after the fall? Well, I can pretty much guarantee you’ve never seen it go down quite like this before. If you’re looking for fluff, I suggest you go elsewhere, but if you’re after passion, intensity, and that terribly Hannigram sense that love and cruelty are not mutually exclusive, this is the fic for you. The writer has a firm grip on the characters’ voices and motivations and is uncompromising and incisive in their betrayal of both. This is not necessarily an easy read (particularly towards the end, when Hannibal gives Will a reckoning of his own) but it is a compelling and fascinating one.
Cookies by @desperatelyseekingcannibals (TigerPrawn): Now, those of you who are after some fluff, here’s some of the best around. Tiger’s non-cannibal AU is an absolute treat, full of emotional idiots, kick-ass women and a totally adorable kid (and I don’t say that lightly cos kid!fic ain’t my thing!). It all starts when Will accompanies his daughter Abigail as she goes door-to-door selling cookies for charity and finds himself face to face with the ever-so-handsome Doctor Lecter. And then somehow, before he knows it, Will is agreeing to a date in exchange for Hannibal buying all of Abby’s stock, and soon finding that he might have stumbled into a real relationship. Not that it’s smooth sailing, of course, this is still Hannigram we’re talking about! It is my deep and ardent belief that Hannibal dreams of being a romcom when it grows up and with this utterly charming, romantic, as-sweet-as-its-name-suggests fic, that dream is made a reality. Anyone who’s ever wanted to see Will Graham and Hannibal Lecter fall in love the old-fashioned way (you know, without all those annoying stints in prison and near-fatal injuries), treat yourself and read this fic. I guarantee it will melt even the most dark and twisted of hearts.
Picture Imperfect by @shiphitsthefan: Will Graham is a very special alpha – unlike many of his sex, he can be trusted not to turn into a hormonal animal around omegas. It’s how he’s made his career as a photographer. That is, right up until he’s in a room with concert harpsichordist Hannibal Lecter and everything goes to hell when they scent each other and can barely keep themselves from ripping their clothes off and bonding right there and then. Seems like they’re true mates and it’s only a matter of time before they give into their urges – so Will, being a decent and respectful alpha, has to get this courtship show on the road before that happens. Well, mostly before that happens. Given the UST inherent to the plot, this is every bit as intensely, stupidly hot as you’d hope, but it’s also a really clever, thoughtful exploration of the omegaverse concept, set in a ‘verse in which omegas are the ruling gender, a nice reversal of the usual a/b/o setup. Plus it has an almost indecently adorable version of Hannigram, in which progressive Will and traditionalist Hannibal attempt to conjoin their lives so that they can get on and shag already! Smart and sexy a/b/o is one of our fandom’s greatest strengths and this is truly just an exemplary version of it.
Space Invader II: A Very Darko Sequel by @devereauxsdisease: A sequel to the utterly wonderful Space Invader (and if you haven’t read it, I’m begging you, go remedy that this instant), this return to Dev’s Spacedogs ‘verse sees Adam and Nigel still ensconced in blissful coupledom. So blissful, in fact, that it’s making Darko wonder if he might want some of that relationship stuff for himself. Cue the appearance of a certain sassy lab tech last seen working for the FBI. That’s right, Beverly Katz is alive, in town and about to rock Darko’s world XD. This is just an utter joy to read, stuffed with Dev’s trademark mix of fantastic dialogue, heartfelt emotion and wickedly dirty jokes. And best of all is her way with the characters, all of whom are wonderfully loveable and who work beautifully together. I spent the whole fic marvelling at the way in which these disparate characters come together and feel like they were always meant to be that way – they make a lovely, entertainingly weird family and are never less than an utter delight to spend time with.
Forgemaster by @llewcie: Valhalla Enchanted by way of the Greek gods now, in this peerless piece of sweetness by the lovely Llew. Char and Ella are the new Dionysus and Aphrodite (in this ‘verse, the gods can retire and be replaced) and live like brother and sister, i.e. bickering, winding each other up, pushing each other’s buttons... They particularly like making bets, which winds up with Ella making Char agree to three dates with Hephaestus, being played in this fic by One Eye. Given that One Eye is unsociable, ragged, and constantly dirty from his forge, Char is less than impressed with his companion and says so… somewhat unfortunately within One Eye’s earshot. So when, despite himself, Char finds himself falling for the blacksmith god’s charms, he’s got a lot of work to do to convince One Eye that he’s worth the trouble! Llew has the charm turned up all the way to eleven in this gorgeously frothy, funny little comedy of errors, with a sweetly vain version of Char melting under the steadily growing appeal of One Eye’s gentle strength. If you need cheering up for any reason, this fic should be your first port of call.
Pure Imagination by @constructfairytales (beforethedawn and Destinyawakened): Stranger Things was one of my favourite shows last year (admittedly it’s no Hannibal, but what is?). It was smart and weird, and as an 80s baby it pressed every last one of my nostalgia buttons, from soundtrack to costume design. So, of course, it was with nothing but delight that I started this crossover AU, in which Will is police chief of the town where young Will Byers goes missing and Hannibal is the psychiatrist he brings in to counsel the traumatised community. And I wasn’t disappointed – this is a fantastic blend of Hannibal’s surreal romanticism with the full-on monstery weirdness of the ST ‘verse, with plenty of unexpectedly but pleasingly fluffy Hannigram at the centre of it. Though it follows the basic plot of ST, having Will and Hannibal involved inevitably shakes things up (Will’s empathy is given a brilliant twist) and predictable this certainly ain’t. Instead it’s fun, thrilling and playful, with at least one story development that genuinely had me on the edge of my seat. And did I mention the Hannigram? Cos, yeah, there’s no slow burn here. Our boys are goners from the second they meet and the intensity of their connection is all kinds of wonderful.
The Estate by @bokuno-jinsei: Amusingly, the tags on this fantastic fic eventually turn into a short plea for Will Graham to stop thinking so much (a plea which anyone who’s written the over-analytical little shit will know is hopeless). Fortunately, Will clearly paid no attention, and so we readers are treated to this charmingly introspective piece of canon divergence. So, Hannibal gets as far as sitting Will at the dinner table in Florence. But, before he can get out his bonesaw, he seemingly has second thoughts and so Will wakes some time later to find himself ensconced in the last place he expected to revisit – Lecter Castle. Where, he finds, Hannibal has decided to change the game between them: if Will agrees to see if they can live together, Hannibal will cease any attempts to change or influence Will. So the pair find themselves as the unlikeliest of roommates as Will wrestles with his demons, his desires and, inevitably, his feelings for Hannibal. Anybody who enjoys intense conversations, brewing sexual tension and Hannibal in waders (yes, really), step this way, you’re in for a treat.  
Inevitable by Vulcanmi: I do adore canon divergence. And I have a weakness for prison fics (love Hannigram falling in love while incarcerated). So this fic is entirely my jam. It picks up in the second half of s3: Hannibal is in jail, Will is “happily” married to Molly, and Jack is still desperate to have his pet empath back on board to deal with the Tooth Fairy. Except in this ‘verse, Will decides not to give into Jack and remains with his family, far away from Baltimore. In order to make it up to his former boss, though, Will writes a letter to a certain inmate, suggesting that he offer his services where Will cannot. Of course, it’s not the last letter Will ends up sending to Hannibal. Not by a long shot. And we all know what happens once Will gives Hannibal an inch… (hey, I didn’t mean that kind of inch, you filthy perverts!). Though it starts out as an angsty exploration of Will’s determination to separate himself from Hannibal, somewhere along the way this fantastic fic transforms into a twisted yet adorable romcom, as our murder muffins confront their feelings and try to figure out whether there’s any version of the world in which they might be together. And, frankly, it’s an utter delight to read. One for those (*raises hand*) who like their hurt/comfort 20% hurt and 80% comfort.
Inside the Imitation by @belladonnaq (Belladonna_Q) with artwork by @reapersun: A confession. I’ve never seen The Thing (because I’m a scaredy-cat who doesn’t watch anything that could remotely be described as scary. “But Vic, isn’t Hannibal scary?” Yeah, yeah, I contain multitudes, now hush mango, I’m working). However, I’ve never let ignorance get between me and my Hannigram and so I jumped headfirst into the The Thing/Hannibal crossover which, fortunately, works utterly brilliantly with absolutely zero knowledge of the film. So, once again Jack Crawford finds reason to call upon the services of Will Graham and Hannibal Lecter. Except this time, it’s not in order to investigate the Minnesota Shrike, but a strange case with its roots in a decades-old tragedy in Alaska. Soon things turn weird and monstery and Will and Hannibal find themselves reluctantly (well, as ever, Will’s reluctant, Hannibal’s thrilled) investigating a burned-out government building with something truly frightening at its core. This is thrilling, clever and wonderfully creepy, a fantastic reframing of canon (especially the Hannigram) and tons of fun throughout. I have to admit, I did not see the twist coming in this fic (though that’s possibly because I’m a dim bulb when it comes to plot) and it was delivered brilliantly, turning everything on its head and upping the stakes for our beloved murder muffins. Oh, and make sure to check out @reapersun’s fabulous artwork that accompanies the fic, it’s staggeringly gorgeous.
The Marriage of Heaven and Hell: Volume 2 by @fragile-teacup: A continuation of the marvellous The Spaces Between series, this picks up a little after volume one, with our boys enjoying Argentinian high society. Unfortunately, while the end of the previous instalment hinted at full-blown murder husbandry, it quickly turns out that Will and Hannibal haven’t quite sorted out their feelings to anyone’s satisfaction (you’re shocked, I can tell). Fortunately, we’re pretty much out of slow burn territory here and the idiots manage to get their act (mostly) together just in time for some ghosts to rear their perfectly-coiffed, millionairess heads and throw a spanner in the works. This sequel continues the achingly lovely tone of its predecessor, with romance a-plenty amongst bouts of emotional idiocy and bloodlust. It’s sweet and tender without compromising on the intensity and darkness of our beloved boys and builds their relationship with care and patience, allowing for a believable building of trust and love between them. It is, in other words, a treat to read in every way, so get yourself to ao3 and have at it!
As ever and always, if I’ve miscredited anyone or if there are bad links, please let me know and I’ll correct it ASAP. Happy reading, lovely fannibals!
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Yes, I agree they really rushed Hacy and made it all about them. They listen to certain fans and took away what made the show good to begin with. A great example of taking time to develop the relationship and not rush is Tim x Lucy on Rookie. The fans wanted it but writers took their time and develop them together and individuals. The Charmed writers just dropped the ball completely on all the characters. And look I'm not naïve, I never thought Haggie would happen( though someone should have
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I wanted to put these all together before I answered. This is going to be long so I'll put it under the cut so others can scroll past.
I may joke about the fact that Tim & Lucy aren’t together yet, and I may be in the minority but I’m perfectly happy with the fact that they aren’t together yet. They’ve got a natural progression to get them at this moment. And I can even wait it out a little more to see it developed well. I’ve commented before that it seems like TV audiences in general don’t have the patience for the will they/won’t they like they used to. Now some shows in the past have milked the storyline for too long, but shows like Charmed rushed in without proper planning and it shows. I think it even annoyed Harry & Macy fans with how they didn’t know what they were doing and how much they’ve ruined both characters, especially Macy. She was a much stronger character when Galvin was her love interest. That storyline never overwhelmed her own individual storyline. Whereas Harry has become the same problem that Parker was for Maggie in season 1 in that her storyline was basically all about Parker and almost nothing about herself individually.
I knew Haggie would never happen either. It’s part of the reason I resisted hard core shipping it until midseason in season 1. Oddly enough, Haggie is the reason I resisted shipping Tim & Lucy. Both shows were on their first season, and I wasn’t sure if Tim & Lucy ever had a chance at being more than friends or mentor/mentee (and I wasn’t sure if I even wanted them to). I knew shipping Haggie would be putting effort into shipping a non canon ship that had no chance, and I didn’t want to put my heart through the heartache of shipping two non canon ships at once. Now it is almost 3 years later and Tim & Lucy are an almost certainty while I’m begging for scraps of scenes where Haggie is friends or are at least in the same scene.
But yes Sarah & Rupert have a natural chemistry that, no matter what the Harry & Macy fans think or the writers want us to believe, is better than Rupert & Madeleine’s. Theirs is not bad, but is not amazing or compelling enough to suffer through all the unnecessary reasons to purposely keep them apart. Or to make me believe Harry & Macy as a good couple. Rupert even has better chemistry with Melonie. And I think that is the reason there are so few scenes with Mel & Maggie. The writers had to limit Harry’s relationship with Mel & Maggie to make Harry’s relationship with Macy look different and therefore better. When if we’re all honest, the biggest bond Harry created with any of them in season 1 was with Mel. Then with Maggie, thanks in part to Tartarus which they should have explored more. And lastly Macy. Then suddenly in season 2 he has to spend more time with Macy. If he is ever with Mel & Maggie, it’s usually with both of them. Season 2 was all about separating Mel & Maggie from Harry & Macy most of the time. Which did a lot to mess with the original idea of this show being about 3 sisters because it was very rare for all three of them to work together for an entire episode. 2 episodes come to mind in season 2 when they all worked together for the majority of the episode, and it’s really difficult for me to remember a third episode. But back to my point, the writers couldn’t build Harry and Macy up in way that compare to how well the friendships Harry had with Mel & Maggie compared in season 1, so they had to tear those down and not show them as much. Now obviously, Mel is not an issue as a competitive love interest if fans notice better chemistry. But Maggie is. Don’t think it didn’t cross my mind that Harry & Maggie went to having the most hugs in season 1 to having zero in season 2. I know because I am the one who gifed them all. The only hug Maggie has in S2 is with Jimmy thinking he is Harry. And let me tell you, that scene where Jimmy is trying to kill Maggie, still more chemistry than anything Harry & Macy have had in 3 seasons. It’s safer for Harry & Mel to have scenes alone together than Harry & Maggie because Maggie & Harry’s chemistry is better than Harry & Macy’s. And I don’t even mean that in a romantic way, if people don’t want to see it that way. It’s better even in terms of friendship. But I think it could have gone romantic. Where I think Harry & Macy’s is best when it stuck to friendship. It reminds me of Nolan & Lucy who scenes got a lot better to watch when the show accepted that friends is all they should be. But the few scenes we did get of Maggie & Harry alone, namely the attic scene and the book nook scene felt so domestic and intimate that I found it easy to ignore the dialogue and create my own dialogue based on body language. The chemistry lends itself to that.
It also bugs me that I got so much shit for shipping Haggie because of age difference when we find out that Harry & Macy actually first met when Macy was probably Maggie’s current age. And we’re supposed to buy that as the beginning of Harry & Macy’s destined love story. Plus all they are doing now with Harry feeling too old for Macy and wanting to be mortal so he can grow old with her. So it was problem when I shipped Haggie, but now that it’s suddenly Harry & Macy it is seen as okay or a storyline for them. I see you, Charmed writers. I see you.
I had to think about which Darklighter Harry/Jimmy fics you were talking about because I only posted a few to my tumblr. I’ve had a bunch more I shared with a fellow Haggie fan. Even more I’ve probably thought of and forgotten by now. I’ll be honest, I don’t know how much fanfic I’m interested in writing for Charmed. The show is only barely keeping my interest to keep watching. I usually wait almost a week before I watch the latest ep. That is not typical TV watching behavior for me as I usually don’t wait more than a day if it’s a show I like. Combined that with the fact that there isn’t much interest in Charmed fanfic, even less so for Haggie, I just don’t see my interest in writing it returning anytime soon. Plus, I usually stick to writing in one fandom at a time and all my interest is in writing Tim & Lucy at the moment. Now, I do believe if there was any character who still thought Jimmy was redeemable, it was Maggie. Not by much, but she at least tried to give him a happy ending even it didn’t work out. So if I did see my interest coming back, I could still see writing a Maggie/Jimmy fic which ultimately becomes a Maggie/Harry fic. But about 98% of my fanfic ideas remain just ideas. For an idea to become a fanfic I have to write, I have to imagine a significant amount of dialogue first that refuses to leave my mind until I start writing. That’s true of any fandom I’m in.
The worst think the writers ever did was get Harry & Macy together. They should have kept Harry as just a whitelighter and friend for all the sisters. Let fans stick to fanfic if they wanted more. I probably would have liked fanfic more than anything by they could have given me if I’d they did write Haggie romantically. I think Charmed will forever be one of those shows I look back on and think: that could have been a really great show if they had just done everything differently.
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