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taliaalghulhub · 2 months
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Batman: Death and the Maidens Issue 9
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spacedace · 4 months
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Fuck whatever DC is doing with the al Ghul's characterizations and story lines, I've decided that from now on the al Ghul's are gonna be DC's version of the Addams Family instead.
Now I don't mean just give the various al Ghul's the exact personalities of the various Addams and call it a day. That's boring, that erases all the interesting parts of the al Ghuls, that's just using "find & replace" and not actually adding anything. I mean give them the vibes of the Addams Family.
Keep the al Ghul's as the al Ghul's with all their scheming and machinations and world domination attempts but give them all the unhinged energy, the casually insane view of the world, the deranged levels of love and devotion for family. Make them that group where objectively they are batshit insane but also you cannot argue with the fact that they are indisputably the most stable and functional family in the entire universe.
They're creepy, they're kooky, they're mysterious and spooky. Ra's many opulent homes and impenetrable fortresses are a museum and the al Ghul's really are a screa-um whenever people come to see-um (or when they lay waste upon their enemies in a surprise attack that has been planned for months and is just the first domino in a series that will ultimately lead to achieving a far greater goal).
They all love each other and want each other to be happy, they express this primarily with stabbing and murder attempts (its fine, death is a thing that happens to other people).
And forget the League of Assassins being a cult. Just make the whole vast globe spanning organization a collection of cousins/aunts/uncles/dear old friends ect. No one (not even the al Ghuls, if they cared to keep track of such things) is sure who is actually related to them and who just got absorbed into the ever expanding family tree based on their vibes being right.
(Is Sensei Ra's father you ask? Well he's certainly someone's father - probably.
Anyway have you heard about Cousin Cheshire? Despicable poisoner of a young woman, capable of the most horrific things imaginable - yes she is the sweetest dear. Like I was saying though, she just had a baby!
Everyone in the family is just so excited to throw a baby shower to celebrate! Ubu has really gone all out with the spike traps, he does so love getting to welcome a new addition to the family.
Talia of course has cultivated a brand new strain of the most toxic plants imaginable to make a brand new kind of necrotizing poison. You know, as a nice little romantic gift for Cousin Cheshire and that young man of hers. It really is so important to make sure you take time for you and your partner to go on dates and have a few pitched battles to the death on dark rooftops in the pounding rain when you have children.
Now there is some to-do about it all of course, you know how family get together can be. Everyone is arguing over who should get to give little Lian her first weapon and what it should be. Nyssa is pushing for grenades but Ra's is insisting on a sword - he's traditional like that you know - but Dusan has the vote so far on throwing knives. You know the kind that have the little divots along the edges of the blades them to make it easier to get the poison you dip them in to stick.)
I'm just saying that the al Ghuls should be a delightful cross between the Bond Villains they were originally conceived as and the lovingly unhinged Addams Family. It just feels correct in my heart.
(Again keep the interesting aspects of the characters and the nuances of who each of them are like their drive to save the world through destroying humanity and their strong environmentalist leanings and their constantly playing 5D chess and everything, but like, take away the racism and the cartoonishly evil for no reason bullshit and give them some fun feral energy to go along with it).
#batman#ra's al ghul#al ghul family#talia al ghul#nyssa raatko#cheshire dc#sensei dc#no more racism and fucked up dark family dynamics#the al ghuls aggressively adore each other#violence and schemes is their love language#in the full au version of all of this i'd like to imagine how canon plot points change with the al ghuls having these vibes#Just imagine Damian still trying to kill Tim when he first ends up in Bruce's care#but instead of it being a ploy to get rid of a threat its because he's just so excited to meet one of his big brothers#and attempted murder is just how you tell someone in your family that you love them#Tim just SO CONFUSED because Damian is talking so animatedly about how happy he is to get to have some brotherly bonding with Tim#while ACTIVELY trying to run him through with a sword#idk how things change with Cass exactly but i feel like they would in this#like either David Cain isn't an absolute monster or the al ghuls catch wind of what he's doing & are like#This is NOT how al ghuls treat family! what is this shameful behavior! She can't even insult you while you fight!#fighting and violence is a perfectly healthy way to express your love but only if there's actually LOVE involved!#The Heretic & other Damian clones still get made but only because Talia just misses her son so much that she makes more of him#Nyssa has just been bopping around the world for a few centuries & pops up every now and then to have a death match with her baby sister#i just have a lot of strong feelings about the al ghuls deserving better and combined that with the vibes of my favorite unhinged family#Dick still hates Talia but Talia takes all his insults as her darling step son telling her how much he loves her#which only drives Dick even crazier#Tim rocks up to the League of Assassins during his whole trying to prove Bruce is alive thing already seen as an al ghul#Oh yeah that's Cousin Timothy he's one of Talia's kids - never met a truer al ghul in your life#You see how he blew up all those bases? Ra's cried he was so proud#Ra's spoils his grandkids absolutely rotten which is giving Bruce SO MANY gray hairs
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fluffykitty149 · 9 months
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So I’m watching Rush Hour with my family when I had the idea for an AU.
Basically here, when Talia fails to trick her father into believing her son died she runs away with him and Nyssa (rather than kill her a lot) helps her escape.
As of now she’s managing Lexcorp giving her mild immunity from her father while Lex is off being president.
So Damian’s being raised in a loving environment and stuff until he gets kidnapped. Kinda don’t know what to do from here.
Who’s in charge of the investigation? I don’t know. I’ll update when I have a better idea.
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heroesriseandfall · 10 months
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I would like to clarify two al Ghul family members that people often seem to mix up:
Nyssa Raatko, also known as Nyssa al Ghul: daughter of Ra’s al Ghul, older half sister to Talia. She figured out how to make Lazarus Pits reusable, and she killed Ra’s in Batman: Death and the Maidens, then took over the League of Assassins for a while.
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Nyssa in Batgirl Vol. 1 #68
Daughter of Acheron: Ra’s al Ghul’s half sister, Talia and Nyssa’s half-aunt. She’s the one Ra’s sent to attempt to get pregnant from Tim in Red Robin. We don’t know much about her, but she is decidedly NOT Nyssa.
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Daughter of Acheron in Red Robin #24
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Red Robin #25
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cheeseburger-octopus · 11 months
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and they were sisters
(this comic will be the end of me)
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jaytodd2 · 11 months
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“But Talia’s is this” “Talia is that” Talia is suffering under the effects of ptsd and brainwashing alongside exposure to the Pit since that’s how Nyssa brainwashed her.
In conclusion, everyone needs therapy and family counseling.
This is the official statement for them as members of Batman’s Rogue Gallery.
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jewishcissiekj · 1 year
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DC Comics JewShowdown round 3B part 2
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Ursula was not kicked off/quit the Minutemen because she was gay and was the prettiest of the of Minutemen only for ZAtAnNA ZATArA from fucking DC BOMBSHELLS to win a Jewish poll by 0.1 percent I said I'd kick Zee off if she won didn't I
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taliaalghulhub · 2 months
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Batman: Death and the Maidens Issue 9
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mighty-meerkat · 1 year
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the other things i like about the arkhamverse are nyssa raatko and that one generic criminal who rates every experience against 'waitin' for food drops in arkham city'
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OKAY. So Nyssa went back to try and rescue Evelyn, right? And it was never revealed what happened to Evelyn, even though Nyssa survived. So, what if Nyssa really did find this young, angry girl with incredibly shitty judgement of character and saved her? What if she took this rage-filled ball of teenage trauma and decided to raise Evelyn as her own, similar to Black Canary's relationship with Sin in the comics?
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dailydccomics · 1 year
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Nyssa and Talia in JSA Classified #6-7
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theonewiththecrown · 2 years
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Like aunt like niece
After it was told in Batman: Shadow and Shadow war, that Nyssa still exists in today canon (and probably her story's just the same, focusing on how Talia loves her) I'm assured that Nyssa took part in raising Athanasia as well.
First, they were raised with manners, boys:
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Second, Ath has a very familiar appearance, not inspired by Talia. (Plus black hair, ha-ha) I mean, Talia had some "rock details" a couple of times, even a ring in her nose, but black lipstick and nails are Nyssa's cup of tea:
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Talia used guns very often, but Nyssa did love them too:
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Both had daddy issues:
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Both are emotional after the Pit:
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And can be cold and tough, too:
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If Ath was raised by Ra's, we can conclude that Nyssa helped with her after loosing all her own children.
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fluffykitty149 · 9 months
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You know how I’m Teen Titans (2016) Bruce didn’t do anything for Damian’s 13th birthday? Feel if writers brought Nyssa back she’d be appalled and fuming.
(For those of you who didn’t know in death and the maidens Nyssa is Jewish and a holocaust surivior)
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megalomaniac64 · 2 years
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Link is click able this time haha
I read alot of books concerning the family of the al gguls. Let's discuss them
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