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disorganizedkitten · 5 months
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Yes hi hello, I'd love to hear ur thoughts on the al ghul children
Hi yes hello I'd love to talk about them
I am so weak to assassin children you have no idea so anyway
The Al Ghul Children. Are so freaking TRAGIC and I can never get over them
So you have the baby generation which is Mara and Damian and Athantasia; then the original generation, which is Dusan, Nyssa, and Talia.
Attie straight up doesn't exist in most media but in the game(?) where she does she's Damian baby sister who was kept a secret until he couldn't go back to being with the bats. I think about her all the time. What did she know about Damian growing up? Did she ever want to meet him? How many times did she sit in the middle of the night and wish for her brother to do something unforgivable so he could come back? Or was she glad he was gone? The league canonically pits their kids against each other, did she grow up resenting him? Or, even if she liked the idea of him, did she resent him anyway for being the child who went to Bruce? Did she take up Damian's place in the duels with Mara?
Athantasia isn't used nearly enough for her potential she is blorbo-shaped.
And then Damian! Itty bitty baby boy with a sword and issues. I think so much about how he's naturally soft but he can't be because of circumstance. How many quiet moments were lost to blood, how long did it take for him to learn what a genuine human connection felt like? What if he never did? I've been around humans I love since I was born, and I still sometimes feel absolutely disconnected from them. How much superiority is covering for insecurity? We've seen him make friends, Maps, Colin, Jon, as the three I actually care about, and he likes them. Did he make friends in the league? What happened to them? Or did he just, for lack of a better word, imprint, on other assassins?
In a complete other fandom I'm propagating biting as a love language and Damian has that vibe too.
and MARA
Holy fudge Mara also sends me; being constantly raised not only as a weapon, but being told you're the second best weapon and that maybe you can gain more prestige if you beat your cousin in a deadly duel, except even if you do win you know you will never get the recognition you're trying for because his mother is favored and your father isn't
Were she and Damian ever close, or as close as they could get? Did they plan how to lead the league when they weren't trying to take each others' eyes out, did she ever meet Attie, did she take her anger on Damian out on Attie, is the red streak something she does to hide a lazarus streak or is it natural from her dad? Can she see out of her other eye? Where did she see herself in the league before Damian deserted? Is she close to her teammates in the fist or are they just the prettiest canon fodder Ra's could send?
Is there a part of her that is as relieved to be hunting Damian down as it is angry, because at least fighting him is familiar?
The older three also make me Feel Things but not as much as the kiddos.
Nyssa apparently survived the holocaust? And then Ra's murdered her kids and then repeatedly killed her and dropped her into the pits for... something? I don't remember if I ever learned why that happened, but it did and it's so horrid? Drove her to insanity, surprise surprise. I recommend Misericordia and it's sequel on ao3 if you want to cry over Steph, Damian, Talia, and Nyssa. And then the Nyssa Al Ghul & Tim Drake Tag, if you're feeling adventurous. I don't even know the NAMES of Nyssa's kids and that makes me incredibly sad.
Would they have gotten along with the other three? Would they have taken them and ran? Or would they train them, keeping their bloodline strong, and just quietly know that these are their cousins and they're so proud?
And Talia gets rewritten every other writer but there are so many options when characterizing her and they're so much fun. But also everyone else deals with her so jumping to the next one. I think Talia is also the youngest? Don't quote me on that
Anyway last al ghul I think too much about is Dusan. I can't remember if he's the oldest or the middle child but despite being Ra's' male heir he straight up got sent away because he has albinism? And then he fought his way back into his father's ranks under an alias? He went so far for approval and he's still overlooked, and his kid is considered second rate, even though he's personally considered to be terrifying?
How long did it take him to come back? Why didn't he stay away? Does he ever regret it, now that he's back in the league?
i just. There are lots. and lots. of thoughts about them. And I'm sure there are more al ghuls hiding somewhere for me to lose my everloving mind over but I haven't met them yet
the inherent hate of someone who has everything you think you want battling with the inherent love for someone who has gone through the same horrors you have
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donnatroyyyy · 3 months
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Pt. 3 we’re starting to get serious (hating on white male writers, bad handling of POC characters, and of course the tragedy of TT)
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jaytodd2 · 11 months
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“But Talia’s is this” “Talia is that” Talia is suffering under the effects of ptsd and brainwashing alongside exposure to the Pit since that’s how Nyssa brainwashed her.
In conclusion, everyone needs therapy and family counseling.
This is the official statement for them as members of Batman’s Rogue Gallery.
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1-8oo-wtfbro · 1 year
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realizing Damian is Azula if she turned good and Mara is Zuko if he stayed bad
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thenightowlintown · 2 years
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TIL that Damian is actually Chinese on his mother's side with Arab ancestry. Melisande his grandmother was mixed Chinese and Arab ancestry according to Talia while Ra's is born from Chinese nomads.
As someone with Chinese blood I suddenly wanna see headcanons of Dami celebrating the Lunar New Year and eating Nian gao (or handing it out as gifts).
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dc-and-damirae · 1 year
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damian: I got a B- on my blood test
talia: Maybe you should have studied more, at this rate you're going to fail
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batnations · 2 years
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petition for talia al ghul fanartists to draw her with wavy/loose curly hair PLEASE I BEG and the same for damian al ghul wayne fanartists too—PLEASE
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rikeynad · 10 months
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My first attempt at trying to draw Bruce and Talia in the the Simpson artstyle I need to use more references and try to give them more unique face and eyes shapes
Matt Groening’s style uses eyebrows very sparingly so I need to come up with better eye shapes to imply eyebrows
Also I DEFINITELY need to give Talia higher cheekbones
But yeah these designs aren’t even closed to completion
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ochibrochi · 3 months
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Al Ghul Family Values 🗡️ (2015 vs 2024 redraw under the cut!)
OGs might remember this one!!!!!!!!!! Someone somehow found this old ass post and the notification reminded me of it… but i still thought it was funny tbh🤡 so i wanted to redraw it!!!!!
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evaningotham · 1 month
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i need the batfam fandom to give damian the same energy we give tom hollands peter parker in fics like
i want Field Trip to Wayne Enterprises fics
fics where damian gets phone calls from his famous siblings in class
fics where damian has to deal with the other kids watching thirst traps of his older siblings
fics where he’s getting bullies and one of them shows up in full vigilante attire to scare the middle school bully
just
damian al ghul wayne fanfic that centers around his school life and protective family
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solarflare211 · 1 month
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peak damian and batfamily interaction is him using overly formal vocabulary and syntax AT ALL. TIMES. he will never not be proper. even a few years into living at the manor and with all the colorful dialogue styles there, he still talks like he’s 53 and some sort of medieval noble. this is especially funnier whenever he has any sort of normal familial interaction. like:
damian: todd i have come to make a request of you.
jason: what?
damian: i was hoping you’d acquiesce to my demands of having you read me your favorite book while i prepare for slumber.(liked he used to when damian was a baby)
jason: you want me. to read you a bedtime story??
damian: tt. of course not. you reading the book and me preparing for bed are entirely coincidental. i just desire to hear your interpretation of the authors message and the voices you use when narrating.
jason: ….sure, kiddo. go brush your teeth and i’ll be there.
damian: thank you. i shall see you in my chambers.
bonus points for entirely monotone delivery like see this shit just makes me go off it’s so funny
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stormy-skyzzzzzz · 1 month
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ate and left no crumbs. I swear Alfred is the most iconic batfamily member.
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donnatroyyyy · 2 months
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Ok so think of your favorite character(s) in DC comics, now what do you think their favorite song is? (Just a reminder these are all people’s OPINIONS so no right or wrong)
I’ll go first, Talia Al Ghul goes to sleep listening to one of two things: I Bet On Losing Dogs by Mitski or Kalam Eyneyh by Sherine
Stephanie Brown is either I Don’t Smoke by Mitski, Last Words of a Shooting Star by Mitski, or Cinnamon Girl by Lana Del Rey (She tells everyone it’s Call Me Maybe by Carly Rae Jepsen though)
Dick Grayson is Carmen by Lana Del Rey, I Love You by Billie Eilish, or Unwritten by Natasha Bedignfeild
And Donna Troy’s is Mirrorball by Taylor Swift, PRIDE by Kendrick Lamar, or Afraid by The Neighborhood
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thealexanderfiles · 9 days
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Jason, to himself: If I can catch Tim off guard when he comes back from patrol he'll confess about breaking my favourite Wonder Woman's mug
Jason, as Tim wanders in: Got anything to confess??
Tim, very very high off Gotham Harbor fumes: Ra's pickled my spleen.
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“Bruce Wayne is actually a really good father and all his children are just like that” is actually my favorite flavor of batfam
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spicy-apple-pie · 2 months
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Damian has two modes
walks off excruciating pain because he's a big strong boy and is very capable father
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starts losing during a spar and drops dead
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Commission Info / Kofi
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