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icecoffeeluverr · 1 year
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Profile on Jason Todd
JASON TODD’S COMPLETED PROFILE by icecoffeeluver If you read white wine and cigarettes | jason todd I did mention some of this stuff already so bare with me here, i will probably be plagiarizing my own work so you guys probably read the adolescence part in white wine and cigarettes.
jason’s adolescence with willis and catherine
Let’s start off talking about Jason’s adolescence. As we all know due to DC wiki or the actual comics Jason had a traumatizing childhood. Willis was in and out of jail and in some versions abusive (let’s use that version for this analysis) whereas Catherine was a drug addict.
Let’s start with discussing Catherine’s and Jason’s relationship. In a normal parent child relationship the parent is the caregiver. In Catherine’s and Jason’s relationship, Jason is the caregiver 80 percent of the time, the times where Catherine wasn’t high. This allows something called role reversal also known as parentification. This means whoever the caregiver is supposed to be switches roles with the child, where the child takes care of the adult. Similar to what Jason was doing with Catherine.
Since Jason was an only child he had to do it alone. He had no one to talk to, no one he could trust to take care of him if he became sick etc. This means Jason had to figure out how to cope with his own feelings and trauma. He doesn’t have attentive parents to offer comfort or validation that he needed growing up. Eventually this can cause a disconnect from yourself, you don’t know who you are apart from being a caregiver.
Being a parent means you are responsible for your child’s well being along with simple stuff like making sure they eat, paying rent etc. Jason never had parents doing that, especially not after Willis was sent to prison. So as the only functional person in the house he had to step up. He had to make some cash to pay rent, look after Catherine, feed himself and Catherine. So he went out on the streets and made some cash by prostitution.
This alone can cause many issues to a child. Which is why children can’t legally consent until they’re about sixteen in the majority of places. It’s very unhealthy and can cause a bunch of issues in the future when they’re in a consensual relationship or just in general. Now moving on from Catherine and Jason’s relationship, which I’ll probably bring up again later,
We will now be discussing how Willis’ abusive behavior towards Catherine and Jason affected Jason’s adolescence. So when a child is under a lot of stress it can speed up the maturing process so parts of the child’s brain is matured more than other parts. It causes that child to become a mini teen or adult even to protect and help that child survive in certain environments.
So in this case Jason had to mature enough so that he could survive the abuse Willis caused. However, this process caused something called unfair responsibility to occur. An example of unfair responsibility would be a parent getting angry at a kid for something that the parent did. Now in Jason’s case that would be Willis projecting his own failure onto Jason causing him to get hurt when he did nothing.
That strikes fear in Jason, as if something is done wrong it’s now his fault. So the child matures faster than they should, considering you aren’t fully mature until you are in your early to mid twenties. So the child matures enough to notice that they aren’t being perfect, and a child shouldn’t have to be perfect. They need to make mistakes to learn. But living with Willis he never knew that until he met Bruce.
childhood with bruce
This leads us into the time where Jason meets Bruce. It was a little bit after Catherine’s overdose when Bruce takes Jason in. Jason feeling stressed and guilty over Catherine’s overdose acts out quite a bit. This is him grieving but also testing boundaries. Seeing if he can be imperfect, seeing if he can be himself for once and to see if Bruce would hit him or act abusive towards him. As expected Bruce doesn’t hit him or anything (during that time period).
This is most likely conduct disorder. It’s a disorder mostly for children that can be diagnosed when there is an ongoing pattern of aggression toward others, and serious violations of rules and social norms at home, in school, and or with peers. So like Jason testing his boundaries and behaving poorly to Bruce. Which is a more mild version of the disorder but it’s there.
When Bruce gives Jason Robin it causes an old fear to return. The fear of imperfection. He’s afraid that he won’t live up to Dick Grayson, the first Robin. During this time he slowly stops meeting the requirements for the conduct disorder but gains a moody, crying episodes, and more aggressive attitude. These are signs of PTSD, which I think he definitely has. Or it could be symptoms of oppositional defiant disorder which I’ll get more into later on. These all eventually lead to his death.
life after revival
After the revival Jason is manipulated by Talia into thinking Bruce replaced him as Robin and that he didn’t care about his death. But in reality Bruce did care about Jason’s death. Then again Jason was definitely not in the right state of mind and was extremely vulnerable both physically and emotionally.
Which was most likely why Talia chose him to get back at Bruce, by manipulating Jason and by having sex with him. Which to me I don’t think was consensual but then again Talia is a bunch of things but I don’t think she is a rapist. Jason wasn’t in the right state of mind making it more not consensual but he is also the age to consent and he could have in the moment, I think it’s more of the writers fault for this since you can debate it either way.
After Talia and the League of Assassin’s he made his way back to Gotham. Causing trouble and a lot of blood shed but eventually reconciles with Bruce and joins the family again. mental illness i think he has or had
conduct disorder (cd) It’s a disorder mostly for children that can be diagnosed when there is an ongoing pattern of aggression toward others, and serious violations of rules and social norms at home, in school, and or with peers. So like Jason testing his boundaries and behaving poorly to Bruce. Which is a more mild version of the disorder but the symptoms are there.
oppositional defiant disorder (odd) It’s a disorder that deals with people's behavior. It’s mostly found in children, but it can be diagnosed in adulthood. Children are more prone to being uncooperative, hostile towards parents, peers, people with higher authority etc, anger, vindictiveness.  Typically people with odd have been diagnosed with cd beforehand but for Jason I think he developed cd before because of the unfair responsibility.
cptsd
Cptsd, complex post traumatic stress disorder, is a more complex version of ptsd. It’s basically ptsd with added features such as difficulty controlling emotions, anger, distrust etc. Jason has definitely gone through many traumatic experiences and he a hundred percent has ptsd that’s for certain. cptsd vs ptsd. cptsd is going through multiple traumatic events (catherine, sex work, joker, revival, bruce slicing his throat etc) whereas ptsd is one traumatic event. I think this one is pretty self-explanatory.
a cluster b personality type Cluster b personality types are antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder. Jason shows signs of antisocial personality disorder and borderline personality disorder. He fits the criteria for antisocial personality disorder (aspd) through his aggression and unlawful behavior (i mean come on he put seven heads in a bag to prove a point). However, he also shows signs of borderline personality disorder (bpd) by his distorted self image. This is where his relationship with Catherine comes in. Jason becoming a full time parent at a young age shifted his sense of self, he doesn’t know who he really is. You can see this as he grows up.
With Bruce he becomes Robin so he takes after Dick, then he becomes the Red Hood he steals that name and identity from the Joker, and tries to take the role of Batman when Bruce is presumed dead. Later on he gets his own sidekick, goes on to lead the Outlaws similar to a team Bruce leads every once in a while (the Outsiders). So Jason recasts himself as others and that’s a symptom of bpd. Which is a disorder that involves a poorly built sense of identity. But then again he does this too often to have this disorder, but then again he was dead and not in his right state of mind and missed out on critical personality development that he needed. Bpd causes mood swings and difficulty controlling your emotions which Jason has but that could also be his cptsd.
Therefore he definitely has a personality disorder, I just don’t know which type, he could have one or the other or even both but I’m not a medical professional so I can’t diagnose him with anything.
things he suffers with (not mental illnesses)
Identity issues Identity is a trick concept to understand, so bare with me here. Having a sense of identity helps adapt to changes in your everyday life. When people lose their sense of self they lose their self-esteem and look for their own sense of self in others. When someone loses their self-esteem they lose all confidence in themself. They attempt to be whoever the people around them want them to be even if it hurts them. For example, Batman sees Jason as a murderer at times, so he slowly adapt to that version of himself when he’s around him. Jason put on a mask and played his part. But with someone else, like Red Robin when he’s injured, Jason would go and play a caregiver role because that’s who Red Robin needs. Or who he thinks he needs.
Another example would be, with Bruce he becomes Robin so he takes after Dick in a way, then he becomes the Red Hood he steals that name and identity from the Joker, and tries to take the role of Batman when Bruce is presumed dead. Later on he gets his own sidekick, goes on to lead the Outlaws similar to a team Bruce leads every once in a while (the Outsiders). So Jason recasts himself as others
derealization or dissociation
Let’s start with derealization. Derealization makes someone feel as if they are disconnected from themself. They become emotionally disconnected from everything. They feel like they’re living in a movie, things don’t seem real to them in this state. Or even feeling as if they and everything around them are being separated by a glass wall. They can see everything but they can’t interact with it properly, they become disconnected from their surroundings. When Jason is revived he’s more so in a coma / brain dead I think he was dissociating or derealizing. Most likely dissociating.
Dissociation. It’s similar to derealization in some aspects but with dissociation people don’t remember what happens during that time period, could be minutes, hours, maybe even days. In most cases it’s because the brain shuts down to protect the mind from emotional trauma or in less severe cases, stress.
fear of being forgotten
He always brings up his death. I think it's the fear of being forgotten. Probably because he thought nobody was looking for him when he died. claustrophobia.
He dug his way out of a coffin, I would hope this is self explanatory.
personality
According to Google Jason is an ESTP character type. This is what Google says, “He is the ESTP character type, a bold and practical hero who prefers not to play around and go straight for the jugular of any problem. He is also typically insensitive to anyone's feelings, is impatient and takes way too many risks, and is one of the most defiant members of the Bat Family.”
I agree but also disagree. The weakness of an ESTP character type fits him. Those are impatient, impulsive. Whereas the strengths are influential, personable. Like these are but aren’t Jason it’s 50/50 what do you guys think?
Jason is a very emotional and angry person, as a child he was all loving and sweet but that eventually turned to anger when I think he realized what happened to him. He has a hard time expressing himself in ways other than anger.
He’s quite impulsive, like acting before thinking. He can be portrayed as stupid but he’s pretty smart, he’s tactile and a literary nerd, always reading a new book.
He’s humorous and sarcastic. Always has a snarky comment to say. Doesn’t matter who it’s to, but won’t say it to Alfred out of fear.
relationships | platonic and romantic
Roy Harper
Jason and Roy both met at a young age but barely interacted until they were in their twenties. As of right now they are each other’s best friend. They match each other's energy, watch each other’s back, won’t abandon the other, don’t judge each other and have similar trauma.
Roy’s addiction most likely brings back memories of Catherine and if Roy were to relapse it would definitely bring out the scared caregiver in Jason. The person he had to be with Catherine.
jason and bruce
Jason and Bruce have a complex relationship. There is Jason who’s disobedient, troublesome, and constantly morally challenges Bruce. This causes Bruce to constantly be pulled out of his comfort zone. Bruce has done some pretty questionable things like throwing a batarang at Jason’s neck instead of letting the Joker die. However, Jason still loves him and they eventually come to an understanding.
jason and his siblings
Jason and Dick don’t have the best relationship but it’s not the worst. Dick feels guilty since he was an ass to Jason before his death. So now he tries to play the big brother role which makes his relationship with Damian and Tim (until Red Robin) stronger.
Jason and Tim have a more complicated and strained relationship. Tim idolized Jason growing up, he was his hero. Then Jason comes back and attempts to kill him, leaving him for dead. But I don’t think Tim’s capable of holding a grudge against his hero and Jason doesn’t seem to care about it anymore.
Jason and Damian probably met during Jason’s time in the League of Assassins. They don’t get along but that’s probably all Damian since he acts like he hates everyone around him.
my observations
His most used emotion is anger. He definitely has anger issues. I would say he could definitely qualify for an IED but that’s mostly the Lazarus Pit causing it so I didn’t mention it earlier in the mental illnesses section.
He’s more laid back than people think. Apart from his anger he’s pretty chill, always making jokes, completely opposite to what people would think.
Used to smoke as a kid before meeting Bruce to cope with stress.
Doesn’t cope well with stress. He resorts to violence or drinking. Which are both unhealthy coping mechanisms and shouldn’t be used that way.
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psychosprey · 2 years
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Wasn't tagged or anything but I saw it via @brokentoys aka the only riddler i've seen outside canon sources and i will yell at dc until they get to be a eddie consultant. I think it was something like villainous traits, italics for minor bold for major? and while Adrian's by no means a villain he can certainly teeter on the edge between hero and anti-hero aggressive | ambitious | antisocial | bitter | bloodthirsty | brazen | callous | cannibal | calculating | capricious | careless | cold | compulsive | covetous | cowardly | cunning | cynical | deceitful | devious | domineering | envious | exploitative | greedy | hypocritical | impatient | impolite | indolent | insidious | insolent | irreverent | jaded | kidnapper | liar | lustful | machiavellian | manipulator | materialistic | megalomaniac | mercurial | misanthropic | murderer | obsessive | opportunistic | over-critical | over-emotional | patronizing | petty | proud | ruthless | resentful | sadistic | sarcastic | self-indulgent | selfish | serial killer | stoic | spiteful | torturer | two-faced | touchy | traitorous | unclean | unforgiving | unhinged | unpredictable | unscrupulous | vain | vengeful | volatile | wrathful
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jenmedsbookreviews · 5 days
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Profile K by Helen Fields
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in-sightpublishing · 26 days
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Conversation with Ginger Coy on Psychology of Conspiracy Theorists in America: Independent Journalist
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fecin-of-papir · 3 months
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Hey remember when i posted fnaf here? Me neither
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jstwunnahvfun · 2 years
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Do you ever worry about how your best friend’s dad has antisocial personality disorder, an extremely violent history, and is a long haul trucker.
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brucewaynehater101 · 10 days
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I just want good angst about Bruce desperately trying to parent Tim but realizing he fucked it up
or Bruce realizing he kinda sees tim as a father figure in a weird way
or the bats all realizing how Tim’s been forced to mature quickly so he can take care of them, and he won’t stop trying to be the adult in situations even after the bats try to make it so he doesn’t have to
There are a few fics out there that center around Tim and Bruce's relationship after Bruce realizes how bad he treated Tim. "Grudge (I hold none)" by reinersbigtits. "Just How Much I Love You" by sElkieNight60. Honestly, a bunch of sElkieNight60 fics have Bruce trying to be a better parent. Their fic "Redraw Our Expectations" showcases Bruce trying to parent Tim and the teen finds that strange, weird, and restrictive. They chat about it.
I sadly haven't seen any fics where Bruce considers Tim to be his father. I have seen a few that describe Tim as his closest confidant or mental support, but none about the father hc/au :(
If you want some quick angst about Bruce seeing Tim as a father figure, here's an idea:
Bruce is ruminating on his kids. As he's going through his mental list of the kids (perhaps trying to remember where they all are), he realizes that it's an effort to add Tim to that list. At first, Bruce clocks it as the older man being a horrible parent to Tim or needing more time with his son. Bruce wants to fix this and sets out to do so. He tracks down Tim to spend some time with him.
Halfway through the hangout, Bruce starts to relax. They are both having a good time, chatting and laughing. It only changes when he notices Tim's subtle nods, his slight mannerisms that encourage Bruce to keep talking, and the scrunch at the corner of Tim's eyes that indicate he's proud. It's an errant thought of the older man, but one that rapidly changes his worldview.
Tim acts like Alfred.
Tim acts like a father to Bruce.
Tim has always acted like a father to Bruce.
What has Bruce done?
The comment about Tim continuing to be the "adult" or "mature one" in the situation because that's all he's known hurts. If you add that hc to the one where Tim is constantly told to "be the bigger person" when it comes to being insulted by his traumatized family members, that's painful.
Alright, let's build on this hc/au. I'm going to use subtle canon background clues to create a probable psychological assessment on Tim's behaviors. The reasonings are all hc.
Tim was emotionally neglected and abused by his parents (not nearly to the extent of fanon and his parents did love him, but that doesn't change their emotional distance or the harm Jack did after his coma). One could hc that, due to the limited time he spent with them before they left again, Tim tried to keep the peace when they were there. He wanted to spend the time with his parents not fighting, even if that meant choking down his own emotions/needs, placating his parents, and overall keeping a pleasant demeanor around them regardless of passive aggressive insults (looking at Jack here).
If his parents had marital issues, like fighting and insulting each other in front of Tim, the child might have tried to mend their fights and solve their issues in order to spend more time with happy parents. It's a helpful behavior that could've been praised by Jack and Janet, leading to Tim continuously uptaking a mediator role.
This would morph into a people pleasing attitude that heavily clashed with Tim's independence and lack of authority in his life. This is what enables him to be suited for kicking a depressed, angry Bruce into his healing arc (enables, but doesn't excuse Bruce's reliance on a child nor condone it). Tim would probably insert himself into Dick and Bruce's relationship.
Unlike his parents, Dick and Bruce probably weren't happy an unrelated kid was mediating their relationship or getting in the middle of their arguments. Because of their contant rejection to Tim's efforts, the kid's behavior could morph into a more subtle and subterfuge manner. This comes in handy when Jason and Damian come around (because they for sure would not listen to Tim's advice).
Tim, because he's spent his entire life managing other people's emotions for them, would understand where Damian and Jason are coming from as they hurt him. It is painful, and he may hold some resentment towards them (and a frozen anger), but he's used to yanking back his emotions and shoving them into an overfilled box. That's the easy part.
What's burdensome for him is the family. After realizing the lengths Tim goes to in order to ensure their bonds stay strong, they keep pressuring Tim to release some of his responsibilities. They want the relationships to be more equal.
Tim can't, though. If he lets go of his tight grip on holding the family together, he'll have to face that box of emotions he shoved down. He'll have to work through all the pain, anger, betrayal, grief, and desolation all of his family members gave him. If he accepts that he shouldn't be taking on so much emotional labor, he would have to face that he shouldn't have been subjected to so much abuse (from the Drakes or the Waynes).
Tim can't do that without falling apart.
He can't keep his hold on the family's support beams either.
It's not healthy nor productive for Tim to keep his position. Without releasing the pressure from his back, Tim will collapse and take the Waynes with him. He's too scared to let go, though. Will he survive the break? Will he have a place with the Waynes if he's not holding them up?
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pangur-and-grim · 9 months
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ALSO BOOK NEWS!!!
the revisions have been approved by my agent 😤 so we'll be querying publishers in september (which probably means a lot of waiting and hoping and getting rejected, but I'm still excited to be one step closer to sharing my old man wizard yaoi with the world)
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staydandy · 23 days
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Evil Minds (2015) - 心理罪 - Whump List
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List by StayDandy Synopsis : Fang Mu is a genius criminal profiler who successfully cracks a case after describing the past, present and future of a suspect yet he comes out of it damaged, broken and unable to continue his work. However, a series of murder case comes back to haunt him and he is forced to confront his past. (MDL) AKA : Evil Minds Season 1 | Psychological Crime | Criminal Minds | Profiler
Whumpee : Fang Mu played by Chen Ruo Xuan (right) • Tai Wei played by Wang Long Zheng (left)
Country : 🇨🇳 China Genres : Thriller, Mystery, Psychological, Crime, Bromance, Drama
Notes : This is a Full Whump List • TW : SA, Suicide
Related List : Evil Minds 2 (2016) - partial list
Episodes on List : 16 Total Episodes : 24
*Spoilers below*
01 : TW:SA
02 : (at end) Fang Mu jumps out of a moving car
03 : … continued from previous ep. ... Bandaged up at hospital … removes his own IV … nauseous at a crime scene, retching … ptsd triggered hallucination
04 : (near end) Hallucination
05 : Tai Wei hand cut stopping blade … (at end) Fang Mu hallucinating
06 : … continued from previous ep. ... Attacked; strangled, fight, hallucinating … nightmare
08 : [flashback] Nauseous at a crime scene
12 : [flashback] Punched … attacked
13 : [flashback] Fight; strangled.. Fang Mu & Tai Wei jump out a 2nd story window to escape an explosion
15 : Tai Wei has nightmare
16 : (at end) Nightmare
17 : TW:Suicide
19 : Nightmare … Fang Mu hallucinating … handcuffed
20 : … continued from previous ep. ... Arrested, mumbling/psychotic break, interrogated, revealed he's been hallucinating his long-dead girlfriend from the beginning, hallucinating again
21 : Tai Wei drunk … Fang Mu hallucinating … still handcuffed, jumps out a 2nd story window, bumped into by a car
22 : Tai Wei unconscious, tied to a chair, head bleeding.. tortured (teeth forcefully pulled)
23 : … continued from previous ep. ... Rescued (a lot of exposition in this ep)
24.. Fang Mu forced to recall a traumatic repressed memory, collapses … Tai Wei shot … Fang Mu in shock, unresponsive, hallucinating
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vigilanteesadrian · 4 months
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something about the way brad hates his brother but he still wanted to impress him
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bruciemilf · 1 year
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Omggggg I'm in love w your teen Bruce au!!! Do you have any teen!Bruce and Duke thoughts? Or how teen Bruce would interact w Hal? I'm ahshshshd
OOo, I think Duke would be a bit of an enigma for a teen bruce; He's a nice boy. That's why Bruce is inclined to believe there's something seriously wrong with him.
" What's the ultimate goal here?"
" Are you asking because you want to know, or because you're looking to burn bridges? Cause that doesn't work on me."
Secondly. He doesn't take any of his shit.
" Yeah, you're not really the angry type," Bruce likes the hatch; perfect place to read psychology reports on yourself, if he has to say so himself.
Let no one say Duke isn't accurate,
" Very nice dissection of me, by the way. Self-esteem deficiency, self serving, -- I've never been called a hyperbolic altruist before. That's new."
Duke shrugs, " I learn as I go."
" I think you forgot stupid."
" I don't believe in that."
" Of course you don't," his mouth tugs upwards, just slightly, " seriously, thought. Why protect this city? What's the gain here?"
"The same reason you do It. "
" What? Love?" Bruce snorts, " No one protects their parents' killer out of love. You think I do this cause I'm good? I do it because I'm angry. "
" Gotham killed your parents. Not mine. It's never been about the city. It's about people. I'm not going to be bullied into not caring about people. Because you refuse to do that."
"A whole lot of good that did. I have a fucked up boxing match I'm destined to lose until I snap, and 7 kids who hate me."
" We don't hate you. You hate you."
He can't argue with that.
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Deduction Tips #16
The size of a bag is indicative of how much a person needs to carry, and usually we prefer to carry less things. When you see someone with a bag (be it a backpack, a purse, or anything else) think about why this person needs a bigger one rather than a smaller one, and what that says about the contents of the bag and the situation of the person carrying it
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cemeterything · 1 year
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What brought you to bring your book on heads? I just finished Stiff by Mary Roach, and it’s super cool to see someone interested in the same stuff!
I’m just starting on Over My Dead Body by Greg Melville, which you may like - it seems like it will cover a lot of the same questions about the meaning behind the different ways we treat human remains
i've always been fascinated by death, i think partly because it's always been a strong presence and influence in my life (even my birth was heavily surrounded by the shadow of death and there was no certainty that i would make it), and partly because i've always gravitated towards things that other people turn away from, to the taboo and the macabre and the horrifying, because i don't want other people's judgements to inform my opinions on and understanding of something without getting any firsthand perspective, because i find that hypocritical and impossible to justify to myself, and because i know how it feels to be misjudged and shunned and told that it's just because you're inherently offputting and wrong. i have this insatiable need to know things and an obsession with trying to understand what compels people to behave and think and feel the way they do. it's never enough for me just to accept what i'm told about something and not question or examine it at all. also i'm just a little bit of a sicko who likes weird freaky shit and gets a thrill out of treading the fine line between disgust and excitement and testing my personal boundaries.
and i guess death is something i'm particularly drawn to because it's the ultimate combination of the taboo and the unknowable. it's an extremely personal, polarizing and influential part of life, society and culture. there's just so much there to study and question and interpret and it's continuously evolving, and its inevitability and significance in our lives means that will always continue to be the case. death is also very influential in all of my favorite subjects - english literature, history, psychology, and philosophy - so it overlaps with a lot of my other interests.
stiff by mary roach was actually one of the first books that got me hooked on reading more about death, dead bodies and dying, actually! also ask a mortician on youtube, and to be honest, the tumblr bone stealing scandals. autonomy, consent and self control are very important to me, and being denied them is something i personally find especially horrifying, so when confronted by the realization that the dead are especially vulnerable in that regard, and the ethical debates as to what is an acceptable way to treat the body after death, i became obsessed with learning as much as possible. i wanted to master my fear rather than letting it control me.
thanks for the book rec! that sounds really relevant to my interests ^_^
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New profile picture :D
Thanks @sillywolfdogwro3m it looks awesome <3
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hiwataris-bitch · 15 days
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Out of my never ending curiosity when it comes to Kai Hiwatari, I searched for his name on that AI chat thing. And it got so awkward during the first minute, it wasn't even 10 sentences and the bot already asked if I had a boyfriend. There are two more bots and I want to try them too, but the one I did talk to was so OOC... (I don't believe Kai would ask anyone to be his girlfriend that fast. No way in hell. I would have a much easier time writing all of my fanfics if he did.)
Update: I made the other bot blush with my 3rd response
Update 2: the last bot was the most challenging but I still managed to break it and make it be nice to me. Summary: AI Kais start acting OOC as soon as relationships are involved.
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When it comes to the observation weeks in the training program. Could you elaborate on why we shouldn’t deduce then? Is it only about the time when we are doing the exercises?
Hello! great question, i gotta say i didn't write that program, but i did follow it, so i can only give you an answer based on my experience with it and with deduction as a whole. Unfortunately L isn't available to give you the original reason, but if i get in contact with them i'll make a post with their answer.
So, there's this quote from Sherlock which sums up the reasoning behind this very clearly:
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
During this stage of the program it is assumed you're coming into deduction as a complete beginner, and therefore that you haven't honed your observation skills yet. This means you'll inevitably be at a point where if you try to deduce you'll be doing so while missing a large amount of information, and fall into the trap of not knowing you're missing information and trying to work with what you have, which leads to often taking big leaps in reasoning to reach conclusions, because you don't have enough data to work with.
This is also why when i teach people i make sure they're at an acceptable level in their observation skills before i move onto other stuff. Later on in the process you learn how to make the most out of a situation where you have little to no information to deduce from. But that's a bit too complicated for a beginner, so it's important that they don't try to deduce until they have a solid grasp on what information they can gather
Aditionally, the training program, as incomplete as it may be, attempts to separate the process of learning deduction into manageable chunks. That program was written during a time where the community was much bigger and everyone attempting to find some way of learning this skill. Everyone was coming up with solutions to their problems and sharing them in the community, and that program is an attempt to solve the overwhelming feeling that comes with trying to learn a massive skill with multiple possible points of entry. It segments it into manageable, organized chunks for people to have a neat way of getting started with deduction, and one of those chunks is just observation, since it's complex enough of a base skill to have its own section
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