#ramcoa mention

[petsemataries]

most people do not define origin as specific alter origin, but the origin of the system as a whole. later split origins don’t matter. a system that formed due to trauma is traumagenic, end of. a single alter who split due to whatever will never define a system’s origin and never has????

says one guy ever. i can call MY system whatever i want whenever i want for whatever reason i want and you can fuck off if you don't like it. there is no "one way" to be plural. there is no singular definition, and telling me, and others to be like "most people", despite the fact i cannot control the origin of my non-willogenic parts, is the same thing -phobes do, end of.

a huge chunk of us have formed due to non-traumagenic sources - hyperfixations, special interests, favorite persons, even physical issues - and a lot of other traumagenic systems are the same, but don't label themselves as such, because of the stigma surrounding endogenic systems. they are misinformed, and believe endogenic = willogenic. the reason "most people" do that, in your words, is because of that. which shouldn't happen! you're feeding into that stigma further and you want it to continue.

and, as a ramcoa survivor, i support willogenic alters and systems too. bite me.

[antiendocoining]

PeriSystem

a type of subsystem that is somewhat similar to sidesystems seen in progammed systems, but instead seen in non-progammed, but conditioned systems.

flag below. terminology coined by mod A, flag coined by mod G. kinddd of bright? nothing too bad though

[sysboxes]

Hello! I hope you don't mind me asking, but what is pg-did? I've never heard of it before ^-^; if you don't want to answer, that's alright.

It means Programmed DID

basically its a DID system who went through RAMCOA and has programmed alters

We used to use HC-DID (highly complex) which meant basically the same thing, but there was issues surrounding the coiner or something (I don’t remember), so now we use PG-DID or EC-DID (extremely complex).

EC-DID can also stand for Externally Coerced, Controlled, Created, Constrained, or Changed. They’re all the same thing just different names

[transillusionisms]

guys i would like to say: im transramcoa. it feels like the world fucked up by not having that happen to me. not because it should happen to other people: antis love saying "oh that means you think it should happen to other people by saying it should've happened to you" no. if i & other transramcoa folks were the only ones to go through it i'd be perfectly happy! but you can't un-past the past, unfortunately

[your-fav-is-plural]

Ive decided to entirely drop the RAMCOA Research and anything relating to it

Theres too much contradicting stuff around it and while I think it's important to do research and look into stuff I'm just a random mentally ill teenager who runs a gimmick blog and this is stressing me out

I won't be discussing this any further, please don't send me anymore asks about it

Sorry :(

[truly-a-snitch]

i dont usually post abt (c)did but i figured itd be funny to share the pipeline ive gone down because ppl keep saying they had the same/similar experience

[syshop-culture-is]

fuck you guys for stealing a fucking ramcoa term fucking use a different fucking term fuck you

its not a ramcoa term, please learn :)! the person who used it for their ramcoa experience has stated Multiple Times, they were just speaking of their experiences.

also this ask is rlly funny lol.

oh and to note, we are also a ramcoa survivor. so. if you're gonna say im "stealing" or gonna assume I'm not. i am, so I'll state it now.

[sophieinwonderland]

Anyone else find it weird how False Memory Syndrome advocates claim mind control isn't a thing while their whole platform is just advocating a different mind control conspiracy?

It's always "RAMCOA can't exist because it was invented by a group of shady psychiatrists implanting memories into patients that change their entire personality and worldview."

Hun... I hate to break it to you... but that's mind control.

Implanting memories to change somebody is mind control.

And if you're accepting that psychiatrists can mind control people to change their behavior... you know who else probably could??? Cults...

It's just funny how the people saying mind control doesn't exist are still pushing a different version of mind control.

[system-confession-blog]

I am fucking SICK of how western and white-centric this fucking "community" is. "Organizations torturing children and making them kill and eat people isn't real that's a racist conspiracy theory you're fucking racist and antisemitic ooooo!!" Meanwhile I have family members who went through that because my entire family history is tied to hundreds of years of horrific constant war, conflict, fascism, terrorism, and dictatorships, fueled by racism and supremacist ideology.

OTHER COUNTRIES BESIDES THE USA AND CANADA EXIST. And no matter how many sources you give people, no matter how many stories you have of your family members being forced to kill their loved ones as "initiations" into either rebel groups or our country's own fucking military, people will still deny it, it's still a fucking conspiracy theory. I have too many dead friends. I have too many dead uncles and aunts and cousins. I have over a thousand years of intergenerational trauma to recover from. And every day I have to see shit that boils down to "torturing people into subservience isn't real, children aren't tortured that doesn't happen, forced cannibalism doesn't happen (hi remember the Sudanese civil war you fucking racist asshole?)"

Have some perspective you racist freaks. You people go out of your way to make DID spaces unsafe for people of colour while simultaneously pretending to be allies. I don't feel safe around any of you and I feel awful for other first or second generation immigrants of colour in this nightmare of a so-called "community."

[ugly6astard]

tw / cult ramcoa trafficking gore

hi. what is it called when u have an alter that is constantly triggering me by going to gore sites + looking up stories of people who have survived cults and programming to prove to me that we never had it bad compared to others. i feel so sick and guilty and they wont stop. every time i try to close my eyes i see a decapitated head or remember a girl so much younger than me crying in anger because she was sex trafficked. i dont know if i can7/handle it anumore

[rubys-delusions]

polyfragmentation is not just having 100+ alters (there is no minimum number you need to have), and you dont need to be a ramcoa survivor to have polyfragmented DID.

ramcoa is mentioned a lot in PF spaces because many survivors end up polyfragmented due to the nature of the abuse- but not every PF system experienced ramcoa.

your trauma may not feel severe enough to you to cause polyfragmentation, but just like with DID theres no set bar for what "counts" as traumatizing and what doesnt, especially to the mind of a 0-4 year old.

[the80srewinders]

being a ramcoa survivor is pure hell. idk who would want this. im disgusted that people actually fake ramcoa or want to be ramcoa survivors. if i could go back in time and make it where i was never a ramcoa survivor, i would. because this is crippling hell. i could write a fucking bestseller about my struggles because of ramcoa. thats how bad it is, how much i suffer with from just ramcoa alone. right now, from the bottom of my heart, i truly don't know how anyone would want this.

[your-fav-is-plural]

From the Wikipedia article all I could find was that RAMCOA and OEA were coined by a group of psychologists who did extreme malpractice on multiple people and made a lot of false claims about random groups, allegedly caused by the satanic panic

Take this information with a grain of salt as it's extremely paraphrased

I might make a larger post with more information and sources on my main blog about what I could find on the terms RAMCOA and OEA from wikipedia

but for now I'll simply use the terms "programming, programmed system, and hc-did" instead of RAMCOA, OEA, or any similar terms

[abeastfrombelow]

On one hand, I definitely understand all the trauma survivors who do not want to see or engage with any kind of media or romantic story that remotely could be traumatic to anyone involved. After all, one of the symptoms of PTSD is avoidance.

But at the same time, even ignoring all the kinks/fetishes one can acquire through going through traumatic experiences (of which I have many!), there's also the fact that people who have gone through abuse can feel most comfortable in those experiences. That's how a lot of childhood trauma survivors can end up in abusive relationships down the road, it's a documented phenomenon. And when you've been subjected to extreme abuse (RAMCOA specifically, but it could apply to any number of abusive scenarios) sometimes it can be helpful to reclaim certain painful scenarios and change them to be pleasurable ones.

For me, I know many parts of myself would desire to return to my abusers if they didn't have the outlets of putting their desires into fiction, into stories and drawings and private scenarios. They feel inherently broken for having desires, feel like they are destined to repeat what has been done to them onto others because of their desires or intrusive thoughts, feel like our abusers are the only ones who will accept them and understand them. By putting it on the page, they have an alternative. They can grow past feeling broken and like they have no future outside of what the people who hurt us dictated, because they have hobbies and outlets they enjoy. Making disturbing media is an effective coping mechanism for them!

I don't claim to have all the answers for the differing needs in the community of people who have survived trauma. I don't know the most effective way to separate myself from other people who want to avoid what I create, nor do I know how much should be my responsibility (should I preemptively block people who don't share my views? Should I just wait until they block me?) but I do know that we should all try to have compassion for the people on both sides. People who are repulsed by disturbing media should have compassion for those who find freedom in producing it, and vice versa.

As for me personally? I'll just continue tagging things appropriately and thoroughly, allowing others to decide for themselves if it is safe for them to interact with me and to what level is safe for them, and respecting when people block me or don't desire for me to interact with them because of the things I create. I'll continue coping as best as I can, and I dearly hope others can do the same based on what is best for them

[plural-affirmations]

Ok ok ok ok, Bug and Co. again

Another idea plus my reason for it

I see alot of systems talking about architecture, levels, structure, etc

We've never been able to distinguish all those things or discuss then because of poor communication so maybe some positivity for systems who don't know those things?

I don't think I'd be able to make a post this specific, but I can definitely define the terms you mentioned instead! /pos

Structure

A broad umbrella term which covers the relationships between system groups and/or the innerworld(s); the overarching definition for concepts such as "architecture", or the kind of subsystem(s)/sidesystem(s) you have.

Architecture

In this context, it's where you fall on the singlet-plural scale; ranges from "singular", to "median", to "plural", then lastly "complex". You might also see the term "highly complex" or "HC-DID" floating around, which typically refers to programmed systems/systems that survived extensive RAMCOA.

Layer/Level

A structure that is a division of space in the innerworld. This is more than just "an area in headspace" though. They typically change the communication and/or overall function of the members that reside inside.*

*For example, we personally have a Graveyard layer where certain members live, and it is very hard to access for most of us. It's also harder for these members to front.

I hope this helped!

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[paranoia-culture-is]

Ramcoa Paranoid culture is a well known ish account on here vagueing about a vent we posted and then we couldn't sleep until 2 am

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