#ramcoa programming

[egotisicenigma]

「　REMNANTS ?!   ｣

➜ @ a term for an alter who isn’t the core/original, but rather the remains/remnants of who it was. whatever was left of the core who intergrated with fragments.

(mainly for RAMCOA/TBMC survivors)

[granulesofsand]

🗝️🏷️ RAMCOA programming, some details of scripts/introjects but none of TBMC

We have programmed Warrior Cats. I like to make that clear every once in a while. We have colony cats who were raised for woodland living, who prefer the cult and are most comfortable with that danger than domestic safety. They probably weren’t intended to be Warrior Cats, more loosely based on the feral colony in the area. Our mother was a literacy teacher, and reading was our best coping mechanism second to outright dissociation (fancy dissociation, guided style). She didn’t see the harm in letting us read the series, so we internalized some of the details. Those are Warrior Cats now, and have been for longer than not.

The reason I point this out is because I see a lot of talk about new media as rare or impossible to program with. This was fairly accidental as far as I know, a chance to elaborate that wasn’t specifically disallowed, but we also have a fair amount of recent media tied to our programming (especially on the modern side of the system). The more exposed we were to external narratives, the more our trainers twisted them to put them to use. Scripts and media introjects don’t have to be used at all in programming, but there is no one rule book outlining which are allowed. Different trainers and different groups will have their own methods. There is no wrong way to have been hurt.

[hc-did-culture-is]

what does Chi mean in terms of HC-DID?

is it acronym or something else?

(in reference to the other anon)

Chi is a type of programming, also known as callback or return programming.

Chi programs cause intense urges/desires to return to the situation(s) where you were programmed. It commonly involves urges to contact perpetrators, return to physical locations, or return to how perpetrators taught you to act/be.

[echosinthedesert]

CW for RAMCOA, hallucinations, flashbacks

I get auditory hallucinations. I can’t hear. People cofronting with me can make the connection to our residual hearing better than I can, but that’s not what it is. It sounds like it’s coming from outside. People yelling, screaming, calling our names. Sometimes my own name, but that’s always whispered. It’s mostly PTSD, snippets I or a system member heard before.

I’ve been hearing the angels and demons (also headmates). That’s most of how I communicate with people from those layers. I think it comes from my training, to view programmers as gods and headmates as spirits. I like them better than the flashbacks.

I don’t know what to make of it. I know it’s not external because I physically couldn’t pick it up. I don’t remember if it was always like this, but it feels normal.

Diversity of experience I suppose. Hearing voices as a Deaf girl is strange in concept, but I only want to change the trauma bits. The rest… well, maybe I can teach the others to sign.

[entity56]

Hey, odd question but does anybody have any research sources on programming/types of programs for RAMCOA? I'm/we're not questioning being a programmed system, I'm just kind of going down a weird research rabbit hole that you'd EXPECT to see in Aspen but lo and behold here I am...

[creature-wizard]

With Trump coming back into office, it's more crucial than ever that folks with DID and those seeking mental health care in general understand that this whole idea of DID programming cults is a pseudoscientific far right conspiracy theory associated with all kinds of hateful garbage.

Here are some posts to read on this topic:

How Project Monarch fails the "Six Ways To Debunk Any Conspiracy Theory" sniff test

What the Project Monarch alter programming conspiracy theory is (and what it's not)

How the Project Monarch alter programming conspiracy theory developed

Cathy O'Brien - The First Project Monarch "Survivor"

Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler: Two Of The Most Dangerous Conspiracy Theorists Most People Have Never Heard Of

Unwelcome Ozian copied Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler - see for yourself!

I just read Unwelcome Ozian's "Rules of Programming," and Oh Boy.

How to explain to others that Project Monarch isn't real

Recovered memory therapy from the perspective of former patients

How singlets can be misled into believing they have DID

Don't let people guilt trip you into accepting substandard evidence

[egotisicenigma]

「　SHACKLED ?!   ｣

➜ @ a term made for two alters who were made/programmed for eachother. this is a negative term made for programmed systems/alters who have survived RAMCOA/TBMC. This relationship can be handler/programmed or two programmed alters for any type (mostly found in beta, epsilon, twin, kappa, scapeboat programming)

(RAMCOA/TBMC EXCLUSIVE)

[granulesofsand]

Hazbin Hotel: Valentino

🗝️🏷️ RAMCOA, perpetration

I spent a few minutes trying to gather what the controversy around Hazbin Hotel entails, and I did not succeed. So I’m going to keep talking about it, because we already watched it and anyone who hasn’t can find video essays that explain far more than the blips of relevance in the show itself.

Valentino. He is actively engaging in trafficking and exploitation of others, and whether he is causing harm is not the question. He is.

It is the manner in which casual viewers cast judgement upon him that stings. Not ‘casual’ as in watching for fun, ‘casual’ as in unaffected by the themes of the media. People who have never been at either end of organized abuse in any capacity.

It comes back to the discussion of what it means when you talk about an archetype rather than a character. Valentino is an interesting character who can be analyzed in combination with techniques such as lighting, music, and motion. Traffickers and exploitative perpetrators are not the same. Traffickers and exploiters are real.

I can tolerate people relating those identities to the character of Valentino — it raises my hackles because I have trauma, not because of the conversation is necessarily offensive.

I don’t like when people take those traits and decide that Valentino is not redeemable or doesn’t deserve redemption, because we don’t know enough about Valentino to grasp how he became the perp he is — instead, people take the base knowledge that OA hurts people and demeans all perpetrators of OA.

We are perpetrators of OA. In our external reality, we were generationally involved in a religious organization that emphasized the spiritual value of harm. We have been tortured repeatedly until our abusers created a new self who would fit the role they needed. We have been hurt this way since we came into this world as a babe, and we have hurt others since we could walk.

That is a world, several worlds, of pain. It was inflicted because it had been so for hundreds of years, and none were capable of ending the cycle. We left, we are alive, because we got very lucky several times over.

And some of those selves — none of us went away after we formed — identify with Valentino. As it stands, the alignment with abusers (beyond immediate coercion) is familiar, and those selves don’t see media reflecting them often.

We are not perpetrating currently. We are in therapy and working together to heal, but it is slow, hard work. It lessens the shame to see what happened to us happened to others, and those selves were not being bad for surviving.

A lot of the ‘evil’ traits Valentino displays are cluster B Personality Disorder traits. People with cluster B PDs often adapted that way through trauma, because that was how they survived.

Giving those selves dignity and respect despite their behavior allows them space to reevaluate whether they still need those behaviors. They have to learn to override the automatic response they relied on for years, and for us they have to do that while dodging training and torture memories designed to keep them in their place.

We are real. Survivors, multiple or singlet, are real. And the only people who get to forgive perpetration are the victims and the perpetrators.

If you were not our victim, your opinion matters far less to us. If you were neither a victim nor a perpetrator, your opinion might as well not exist. It probably shouldn’t, unless you have some lived or learned experience you’re working off.

When you generalize statements about perpetrators, you are going to hit people who were coerced, adapted to survive, or never learned better. That could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back; healing is the worst, sometimes worse than living it the first time, and there are enough barriers without tossing in a poorly thought out comment in the mix.

Valentino exists only in the media and the interpretations of those who consume it. Survivors, including perpetrators, are real. Please try to be more gentle with heavy topics.

[syscourse-shmiscourse]

Can you explain this further? Because I'm not sure I get where you're coming from.

Programmed is a neutral state. It's not like the issue with "complex" or "highly complex". It just means this system went through programming and the trauma that involves that. It's not saying they're any worse or better than other systems.

We are a programmed system. That's just a fact, it's not us trying to make a statement that we're sooooooooooo much more traumatized than other people, we know that's not true. But the fact we have programming is often relevant to the conversations that we participate in so yeah, we're going to bring it up. Because it's just a relevant fact about us. It's like trying to say that a system can't say they're polyfragmented because they're just trying to one-up systems with a simpler composition.

I personally despise the "system with programming" and "programmed system" notion. It just reeks of trauma Olympics. I completely forget who started it, but whoever did, fuck you.

There should not EVER be a scale of programming. There should be no "oh I'm not programmed I just have programming." Please stop. You're making your trauma seem less than what it is. You're downplaying what happened to you. You're placing "programmed systems" on a higher pedestal just because they're more "complete" than you.

It's perfectly fine to say you have "incomplete programming" if that's what you believe you have, but to say "I only have programming and am not fully programmed" is opening the door for others to invalidate your experience. Stand firm on what happened to you. If you "have programming," you're programmed. You're not any less than compared to "more programmed" systems

[hc-did-culture-is]

hello, I saw the programming question and I would like to ask a question as well, I know it may sound stupid but-

what about adults who had DID before? like an adult who had DID(for other reasons than programming) and was programmed later in life-

does this work the same as children ?

We don't know, to be honest.

I'd imagine it would be at least somewhat different to children, since kid brains and adult brains work pretty differently.

[coining-system-terms]

This [noun] is a person not a problem. Stop trying to "fix" them.

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[ghost-jester-sys]

shout out to programmed / ramcoa systems who...

- can never fully mentally mature

- were made to mature too young

- know and remember nothing or just snippets

- know and remember everything or most things

- can't currently access therapy for safety or personal reasons

- are currently in therapy

[judgmentbytheh0unds]

you. you made me out to be something special, your prized possession, your protégé, and i trusted you with the deepest parts in my mind.

you just left me like everybody else.

i’ll forever wait for you to return with my collar still intact, じま.

[heavens-roses]

Octocon and RAMCOA survivors

pt: octocon and RAMCOA survivors

cw: RAMCOA, number names

Felt I should share this as I haven't really seen it talked about in system or RAMCOA spaces. When you use Octocon your parts will be attached numbers to each part based off who was created first. While it's likely due to how to code the easiest. it is important to remember that if you are a survivor who has parts who were forced to be called a number, are a survivor who was called a number collectively/bodily, forced to refer to others as numbers or has any trauma related to number names please tread carefully.

I know as a survivor it can be extremely scary not being able to control your name or having anxieties related to not being called your number too. Please know you are not forced to use Octocon just because other people are using it. If plural kit or simply plural work best for you than keep using them. You do not need to switch over and risk your own mental health. Being a survivor who was dehumanized to numbers is horrible and whether you decide to reclaim your trauma or are healing by moving away from it know your triggers are valid.

Know you are never alone in healing your trauma and note this post is for education. This is not to bash in the creators of Octocon nor is it to tell you how to feel about the app/bot. At the end of the day how you find support with yourself is for only you and your system to decide. With thet being said do not interact with this post if you are pro/neu-endo / believe in any form of "plurality" outside of being trauma based. If you are a questioning system, a cdd system who is syscourse unaligned or apathetic you are more than welcome to repost and interact.

[creature-wizard]

A warning for trauma survivors looking for online support

You may have come across the acronym "RAMCOA", which stands for "ritual abuse, mind control, and organized abuse."

If you search the Internet for RAMCOA, you might come across a result like this:

If you click the link, you'll be taken to a site that briefly describes what RAMCOA supposedly is, with content like:

MC - Mind Control. A shortened form of TBMC, standing for Torture Based Mind Control. MC is also known as programming, where victims are repeatedly tortured starting at a very young age to intentionally cause a system of dissociated parts that function perfectly to suit the abusers' needs.

alpha : a base program, one of the very first implemented. it trains the victim's mind to accept every order given by handlers willingly. parts with alpha programming will often have no will of their own, and very little personality outside of following orders.

aiw : alice in wonderland. typically split into 3 different sections : black alice, white alice, and crazy alice. ideally, a system scripted with aiw would have all three. white alice makes sure the system forgets the trauma, black alice makes the system feel like theyll be a danger to others if they remember the trauma, and crazy alice makes the system think theyre making it up or going insane if they ever remember it.

Literally all of this comes from a conspiracy theory - specifically, the Project Monarch alter programming conspiracy. It was developed and pushed by far right conspiracy theorists. Most of what people run into specifically traces back to Fritz Springmeier, a man who claimed in the 90's that the fight for gay rights was part of a plot to enthrone the antichrist in the year 2000. The Project Monarch conspiracy theory was always adjacent to the Satanic Panic, if not a somewhat niche part of it. If you start checking citations, you will find many of these people citing Svali, a conspiracy theorist who gets a lot of her material from Springmeier. (Example 1, example 2.)

This is no accident. The term RAMCOA was created by the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation (ISSTD), which was created by and for psychologists who believed in the myths promoted during the Satanic Panic.

The RA part comes from "satanic ritual abuse," which was coined by Dr. Lawrence Pazder of Michelle Remembers (cw for descriptions of horrible abuses) fame. Lawrence Pazder is the man who effectively started the Satanic Panic. It cannot be overstated that Pazder, now a known malpractitioner, was considered the expert on ritual abuse during this time.

The MC part comes from "trauma-based mind control," which was coined to refer to the alleged abuses inflicted in Project Monarch. Parts of this conspiracy theory that can't be traced back to Fritz Springmeier can usually be traced back to Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips, two other (really racist) conspiracy theorists.

Ultimately, the entire conspiracy theory is constructed from tropes that go back to The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (a known antisemitic hoax), blood libel, and early modern witch panic.

Searching the Internet for RAMCOA resources, ritual abuse, or trauma-based mind control will always bring you to conspiracy theorists.

(Also, the term OEA, which stands for "organized extreme abuse," will lead you to conspiracy theorists as well.)

So yeah, if you're looking for support, be very wary of this stuff. It will absolutely not help you heal; just the opposite.

[meeb-motes]

TW/CW: programming

Programmed and (Program)Cue

requested by @lost-atlantis :P

we tried our very best but the cue one is def based off our programmed members experiences ,,

requests are open !!

-Two