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The thing is that organized abuse by Satanists kinda *does* exist, but it's Nazis who do it, and they fake the occult shit to attract the kids. I was abused online by a satanist group who were far right and pretending to be leftists, it's in the news (9 Angles is the group).
I'm sorry that happened to you, and I do know about the Order of the Nine Angles. Unfortunately it's not all that uncommon for abusive groups with some kind of esoteric or occult thing going on (some are just into it for the aesthetics, others are very sincere) to pop up, and I've spoken about these kinds of groups from time to time. I've just never referred to it as "organized abuse" because I find that terms like "spiritual abuse," "religious abuse," and "sexual abuse" are much more useful and do not indirectly imply that we should consider a bunch of conspiracy theorists to be experts on these matters.
I think it's also important to note that none of these groups have ever been found to practice the kind of alleged mind control techniques associated with Project Monarch conspiracy theories, even though they're the kinds of places you'd expect to see it happening if it was a real thing.
For more information on the origins of the Project Monarch conspiracy theory and how we know it's a far right conspiracy theory, click here.
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It's borderline instinctual for me to lie and lie and lie when it comes to people checking on me in any capacity. To not do so feels like violating some sacred rule. It's so much easier to give in to that feeling. To try to not be seen or heard. An event occured recently that caused us to go directly against that and our mental lashback was extremely intense. We had severe somatic flashbacks. I don't have the full context of the event as I wasn't fully present, I just know it was really bad. Our gf witnessed the whole thing and I feel a lot of guilt for scaring her like that. I wish we could just shut off our reactions to everything.
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I second this. I understand realizing something is adding up when learning about RAMCOA. However, simply being grounded by a parent or having to be isolated for an hour or two on it's own is, respectfully, not RAMCOA and definitely not OEA. The only case I can think of that would make since is if during that punishment time you were programmed or involved in a cult ritual. Otherwise, it shouldn't be applied. Using RAMCOA/OEA labels without looking into it and researching is disrespectful. Questioning RAMCOA/OEA because you found possible traces of it is one thing, claiming it is another.
one of the endogenic systems i knew claimed they had HC-DID and experienced ramcoa/oea within the span of 2 days of learning what it was (this is somebody with a history of doing this for a variety of things, i watched them collect npd then hpd then aspd like pokemon cards all within days of learning what they were)
and when we were talking to them they chose to tell me about some of the trauma that made them consider they had gone through ramcoa/oea it was that they were forced to stay inside at recess. what
like from what i know of ramcoa/oea it's totally possible that that could have been a screen memory but with this person's specific history of claiming new trauma and mental disorders after knowing of their existence for 48 hours... the endo thing aside i always assumed they were in denial about their trauma but theres a limit when you start saying you think you went thru ramcoa/oea💀 like please at that point the ONLY way you could use the term endogenic would be to distinguish specific alters who split for reasons other than directly from trauma and at that point it'd be more helpful just to assign alter roles
That's so fucking disrespectful.
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OEA Terms - Clinical/Academic vs. Community
This post aims to provide comparisons and sources for OEA community terms and their academic counterparts. This is not a post that serves to say what terms are more valid or not, just a review. I may not be able to find references to everything, so if I say a term isn't clinical and it has been mentioned, feel free to correct me. This is a long one, so buckle in. This may be updated.
Overarching Acronyms
for the sake of clarity, im going to use 'OEA' throughout this post to serve as the general acronym.
RAMCOA - Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, and Organized Abuse
RAMCOA stems from the ISSTD developed special interest group, the "Ritual Abuse Mind Control Organized Abuse Special Interest Group" (RAMCOA SIG) in 2008. [1] This, along with OEA, is the most common acronym used. There is a lot of controversy over this term, and much of the community has begun to switch to OEA.
OEA - Organized Extreme Abuse
From the ISSTD as well, emerging in 2020 as the previous SIG was renamed to "Organized and Extreme Abuse SIG." [2] This is believed to be because of the controversy surrounding the previously named group.
SRA - Satanic Ritual Abuse
An outdated term that comes from the satanic panic era in the 1980s. Much of the content that used this term is conspiracy-like in nature. However, some early OEA research (typically from 1990-2000) and books use this acronym and are genuine, so it requires a lot of critical thinking. [3][4]
RA, SA, CRA, ORA - Ritual Abuse, Sadistic Abuse, Cult (and) Ritual Abuse, Organized Ritual Abuse
These are more casual terms used in the 1990s-early 2000s before RAMCOA was established, when 'Satanic' was no longer accurate, and when there was a search to coin a new overarching term. Despite the name, these terms were used as overarching acronyms for things outside of RA as well. I've included these all in one due to their similarities and/or due to the fact they weren't used frequently. There are also a variety of other terms mentioned that I've noted in one of the sources below.[5, CRA] [6, SA][7, RA as a general term ][8, ORA, review of other terms]
DIDMCSRA - Dissociative Identity Disorder, Mind Control, and Satanic Ritual Abuse
A barely used term from 2016 coined by a community member. It seems to have existed very briefly and didn't extend past a couple of members. However, the community aspect provided is interesting.
MC-Specific Terms
terms specific to mind control and programming
Programming
Programming generally has the same definition between the community and clinicians. It is defined as "systematic torture that blocks the victim’s capacity for conscious processing, and then employs suggestion and/or classical and operant conditioning to implant thoughts, directives, and perceptions in the unconscious mind, often in newly-formed trauma-induced dissociated identities, that force the victim to do, feel, think, or perceive things for the purposes of the programmer." [9]
TBMC/TBCMC - Trauma/Torture Based Mind Control/Trauma Based Coersive Mind Control
TBMC is a term that clinically describes programming. However, within the community, this term can expand to include other types of mind control as well. The earliest mention I can find of this term was in 2007. [9]
Scripts - "Structures."
The term 'Script' is a community term to describe a phenomenon in programming where programmers will utilize certain media to program system structure. I have a whole other post on this. The term Script itself comes from an unreliable source, svalispeaks, but the idea itself is mentioned in literature under terms such as "Structures" of the innerworld. I'm just going to leave a link to my post about it if you want to explore the sources themselves, as this one is complicated.
Side Systems / 'Left' and 'Right' Systems
Sidesystems are a community made term that describes a structure in programmed systems where a set of alters are completely separate from the others, functioning as a completely separate system. In the clinical sense, this is sometimes referred to as the "left" and "right" systems, with one side being full of programmed parts and the other being daily life parts. However, sidesystems don't necessarily have to be to the left or right of each other. I'm also going to link my post that goes into more detail about them, but it doesn't provide any more clinical sources, so just take it how you will.[10, pg 131]
Screen / Cover Memories
Screen Memories are created memories that programmers use to "cover up" the abuse. They use impossible or highly improbable events, for example, an alien abduction, to discredit the victim and hide real memories of abuse. This is also called Cover Memories/Programs, and it is the same within the community. [10, pg 197]
System Reset / Epochal Division
Epochal Division refers to the phenomenon of where major life changes cause systems to replicate some or all of their alters, with the previously existing alters either remaining active or becoming more covert/dormant. OEA survivors sometimes call this a system reset if it derives from programming, though this term is the same as an endogenic coined one and is often frowned upon when used in reference to OEA. This is first documented by Kluft in reference to polyfragmented systems. [11]
System-Hopping
In the OEA sense, system hopping refers to the action of a part traveling from a sidesystem to the main system and vice versa. I am unsure of the origin of this term in OEA spaces, but it seems to be a community-made term that shares the name with an endogenic term. As far as I'm aware, this did not originate as an OEA community term and has existed in endogenic spaces years prior between the years 2001-2003.
Program Names
i won't go through all community terms for specific types of programming, only the most common ones I've seen specifically mentioned in literature or other official sources, as well as any very common within the community. these are not the only possible programs, but this section is already very long. if desired, i can make a separate post going more in detail about all of them. Sources here are triggering and often repeated.
Greek Letters
The greek letter system of programming originated from the community and is not used in clinical literature. Many of the terms originate from very untrustworthy sources (Fritz & Svali) but have expanded to be commonplace. I have also found evidence of Greek letter terms used in the community in 2003 and 2016.
Alpha / Base
The earliest mention of 'Alpha' in reference to programming I can find is from a book I don't consider a reliable source. However, it is described as "base" programming and similar terms clinically. The term refers to newly formed splits that have gone through basic programming (ex. loyalty to the group, following orders).
Backups / Doubles
Backup programs are the presence of programmed parts meant to replace other programmed parts should they fail or be 'disobedient'. Often, these parts will be the exact same as the one they're replacing and receive the same training. Both of these are used as clinical terms, though doubles less commonly. [10, pg 110, pg 144]
Beta / Sexual
The earliest mention of 'Beta' in reference to programming I can find is from a book I don't consider a reliable source. Within the community, this refers to any sexual programming, which is very commonly talked about academically. I'll link one seperate example. [12]
Callback / Re-Contact / Return
Return programs are very much talked about in literature, and all three of the above terms have been used both inside and outside the community. These refer to any programs created to have the victim return to the group/programmers. [13][10][14, pg 115 ]
Delta / Violence
The absolute earliest mention of 'Delta' in reference to programming I can find is from a book I don't consider a reliable source. However, violence programming is referenced in multiple official sources. In the community, Delta programming refers to any programming that revolves around violence towards others. [15]
Epsilon / Nonhuman / Paranormal
Epsilon is the community term for nonhuman programming, or parts that believe they are animals or other nonhuman creatures. This is used for a variety of reasons and doesn't have a specific term, mainly just listed as "parts who believe they are animals/nonhuman."[10, pg 51][14, pg 74 ]
Internal Handlers / Programmers / Enforcers / Organizers
While "Internal Handlers" seems to be more of a community term, Internal Programmers, Enforcers, and Organizers are used in a clinical sense. All of these things refer to varients of programmed parts that internally enforce, replay, and replace programs and programmed parts in some way. These are also often called "higher ups." [10, pg 160, pg 133] [14, pg 63]
Monarch
Project Monarch refers to an alleged subset of Project MKUltra. The idea is created by a conspiracy theorist. However, within the community, "Monarch programming" either refers to: 1. The government-led mind control that occurred during MKUltra/Project Artichoke itself, or 2. Any programming that is government-controlled, government-funded, or that came from a government connected group. It is also referred to as "Monarch-like" programming.
Omega / Suicide / Self-Injury / Lethal
Omega is the community term for all types of Lethal and Self-Injury programming. This is referred to in many different ways academically, but stick to the same general theme. [15]
Organization / Hierarchy
Both in community and clinical senses, there are various types of organizational programming mentioned. Most notably, soldiers, religious alters (angels, demons, etc), and cues such as numbers, shapes or letters, and colors. Usually, these organizations will correspond to a hierarchy. This is used as a way for programmers to more easily organize the system and keep parts in check. There is no 'one size fits all' when it comes to organizational programs, so those with the same type of organization may have completely different meanings to them. [10, pg 49, pg 131 ]
Reporter / Observer
Reporter programs refer to the same thing in community and clinical terms. They describe programmed parts whose duty it is to report back to the group and/or update them on the systems habits. This often ties into callback and routine programs.[13][10]
Routine / Internal Calender
Routine is the community term for programmed behaviors where the victim does things on certain times, days, etc. Often, this pertains to rituals. Routine programming is sometimes also referred to as an 'Internal Calender' in clinical literature and can be linked with callback programming. [14, pg 57] [15]
Scramble and Varients
In this section, I'm including any sort of programming that causes specific disorentation to make this shorter. Scrambling, Flooding, Rapid Switching, Spinning, Trance, Mist, 'Dead Head,' and other terms have been created and used to describe types of programming that cause the victim to become heavily disoriented, confused, foggy, or otherwise not able to think. There are a wide variety of clinical terms used for these types of programming, but the terms most commonly used in the community are scramble, flood, and spin programming. [14 , pg 88][15][16]
Shell
Shell alters are simplistic parts that function as a 'screen' that other alters speak through. This is used to make the victim not seem multiple and mask other symptoms caused by programming and multiplicity. There is a brief mention of "shell" parts in the context of OSDD, and some non-programmed systems may have experiences that are similar. However, a programmed shell is much different from other described experiences. [14, pg 56 ]
Silence / Speaking Programs
I've included all programs that mention voice in this section. Silence and group-specific speaking programs (programmed responses) are the two I've seen mentioned clinically and may tie into reporter programs. Terms such as hyperverbal are also used in community spaces. [15]
Theta / Religious
The absolute earliest mention of 'Theta' in reference to programming I can find is from a book I don't consider a reliable source. However, it has been widely used within the community outside of that. Theta is a community term that refers to any kind of religious programming, which is well documented in the clinical sense, often just referred to as religious programming or specific examples of programmed parts.
Other / Misc Programming
Things like Body Illness Programs, misc Emotional Programs, Recycle and Amnesia programs, and Isolation programs have been listed in sources provided, among many others not listed here. These are the ones I see mentioned less frequently, and thus, I haven't given a full section. If desired, I'll create a specific post going over all of them.
System Types
as a note, i do not think systems who have been through OEA are inherently more complex. as mentioned, i personally disagree with HC-DID and its creator. this is simply grouping terms i've seen together.
C-DID / Complex DID
Complex DID is a term referring to polyfragmented DID. The term is mentioned by Bennett G. Braun and R. P. Kluft. It is not specific to OEA victims, and many use it as an alternative to polyfragmented.
EC-DID / Extremely Complex DID
EC-DID is a term initially coined by R. P. Kluft in reference to polyfragmented systems, very similar to C-DID. It is not an OEA specific term. However, ritual abuse is mentioned as a cause of said complex system structures. [11]
HC-DID / Highly Complex DID
HC-DID is a community-made term coined by someone later outed as a racist and being inappropriate with minors. For the term itself, the words "highly complex" have been used to describe some system structures and cases in literature. However, it is not a separate clinical term itself and was never said exclusively about OEA survivors. The idea that all programmed system structures are highly complex is also incorrect, as there are small systems that have been programmed. Some members of the community still use this term, while others discredit it. Please keep these things in mind when considering using this term.
RA-DID, OA-DID / Ritual Abuse DID, Organized Abuse DID
These are community terms I've seen used as an alternative to HC-DID as an attempt to create a term specific to OEA survivors. These terms are rarely used and are completely community based.
Thank you for reading. If you have any questions or additions, feel free to send an ask or reply to this post. A reminder that I am not a professional, I am flawed, and I am just doing my best. This post, in particular, is likely to be updated, and I will reblog with changes.
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COMMUNICATING WITH ALTERS
building communication as a system can be difficult, and there are many different ways to communicate with alters, so i want to talk about some of the different ways and give some advice and examples in this post INTERNAL COMMUNICATION internal communication can come in many different forms, such as passive influence, speaking to other alters in your head, sharing images between each other, etc. passive influence is a common form of internal communication that often happens unintentionally, some ways to recognize when this is occurring is identifying a feeling that feels "other", something that feels like its not coming from you. this can be another thought, another emotion, another desire, etc. and try to identify who it could be coming from. this can help to improve communication, you can also ask if anyone is influencing you or around front at the time and see if you get a response speaking to other alters internally is another form of internal communication that often takes a bit more effort, the best way i can describe it is like passing thoughts back and forth. the other thoughts do not come from you, and its like having a conversation with someone else in your mind. this can be difficult to do without a lot of work, but a good way to start doing this could be asking if anyone has any input on your daily activities and just see if anyone has anything to say! you may get an answer, or you may not, and either way is okay! it takes time to build any form of communication EXTERNAL COMMUNICATION external communication is often easier than internal communication, and is often done in the form of leaving notes for other alters when they front. these notes can be left in a private discord server, in a phone notes app, in a journal, or anywhere likely to be checked by other alters the best advice i have for building external communication is to leave a note in a place that you know other alters would check, and just wait for a reply when you switch. once you have established some form of communication, then you can move the notes to wherever you want to permanently keep them, whether this be a notes app, private server, or wherever else. communicate this to other alters, so they know where to check OTHER ADVICE some alters may not be ready to communicate yet, this is okay. it comes with time. do not force an alter who isnt ready to communicate to communicate with you, as you may not be ready to know what they hold or meet them yet for a number of reasons if you are first meeting the alter(s) you are trying to communicate with, it may help to write some form of introduction where you introduce yourself and ask about them. keep in mind they may not be willing to share information about themselves yet and this is okay once you establish communication, it will take some level of maintaining. it is a consistent effort and not just a one-time thing - grey
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programming things that suck:
programmed migraines
programmed seizures
programmed arousal
flood programs
spin programs
God, everything about being programmed is awful
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I'm having a bit of a normal one tonight so
• shoutout to hc-did systems who don't have a fucking clue what all their programs are or how exactly they work or how they're triggered and may constantly be living like they're walking on eggshells.
• shoutout to hc-did systems who have no fucking idea what the full extent of their trauma is and are terrified to figure out more and/or want to learn everything that happened so badly.
• shoutout to hc-did systems who don't know or understand everything about their innerworld. fuck it shoutout to hc-did systems who just Don't Know in general!
• shoutout to hc-did systems who don't have any "real" or "physical" proof of their ramcoa besides their own memories.
• shoutout to hc-did systems whos perpetrators never got a lick of punishment for what they did to you or others.
• shoutout to hc-did systems who actively want or are trying to get their perpetrators punished for what they did.
• shoutout to hc-did systems who can't have their perpetrators punished for what they did.
• shoutout to hc-did systems who might still be in danger. real or perceived.
this ramcoa shit is so confusing and exhausting and horrible and lonely and fucking (re)traumatizing and it's so hard. i'm tired I just want people to believe me sometimes but how much do I believe other people believe me when I share the sheer horrors that rear their ugly heads in our mind. from alters popping up or a memory just appearing out of nowhere to just whole somatic flashbacks. how much can we take? how much DID we take?
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I love making intros on sp it's so FUNNN
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What are your thoughts on the objectively real ritualistic sex abuse perpetrated by powerful people in israel?
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-856407
People claiming to have experienced the kind of abuse described by the likes of Fritz Springmeier, Svali, Alison Miller, etc. doesn't prove that anything "objectively real" is happening. It suggests that they came across these conspiracy theories, and perhaps someone who used the same kinds of techniques people used to help people "remember" things that never actually happened during the Satanic panic.
Of course this doesn't mean that no sexual abuse or trafficking happened. But we can't say that the ritual abuse stuff they're describing is "objectively real" when we all know full well how the Satanic Panic worked and how easy it was to make people confabulate memories of events that never happened.
Plus we know that this conspiracy theory is knocked down by all six criteria in Debunking Denialism's Six Ways To Debunk Any Conspiracy Theory article. And we know that Project Monarch alter programming mythology is full of pseudoscientific myths about DID and alter formation.
So if we see anyone anywhere claiming they experienced this kind of ritual abuse or mind control, we should not unquestioningly believe them, even if the alleged perpetrators are people we don't like. Especially if the alleged perpetrators are people we don't like.
This post is about mind control conspiracy theories that originated during the Satanic Panic. To learn more about how we know they're conspiracy theories, click here.
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any transprogrammers want to program me?👉👈 im cute and easy to manipulate..!! bonus points if youre an adult map (trans, chono or alter) because im transaam
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Why people are against RAMCOA
If you scroll through posts in the system community you have most likely seen a handful of people posting about RAMCOA being a bad term. Here is why!
Contrary to what many people think when they see these posts; those people are not denying that your trauma is real. When people are saying RAMCOA isn't real, they're talking about what that term actually means. RAMCOA is misused and misunderstood a lot on the internet. How? I'll go into that.
Where it came from
RAMCOA (Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, and Organized Abuse) is a term that used to be used to be called SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse) and is now called OEA (Organized and Extreme Abuse)
These terms were created by the ISSTD (International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation), an organization that studies trauma and dissociation, if the name didn't give that away. Each of these terms were used at different times, replacing one another on the ISSTD's SIG (Special Interest Groups) page. In order, it went: SRA, RAMCOA, OEA
SRA was created during a point in time called the Satanic Panic. The Satanic Panic is still going on today but isn't as talked about anymore. It is/was a moral panic about Satanic cults that had over thousands of victims. The thing is, those cults never had proof of existing. Despite thousands of accusations of murder being made, nothing was ever found to prove this. The Satanic Panic is considered a conspiracy theory.
Over time it became clear to groups such as the FBI, CIA, and general law enforcement that these claims weren't actually true, or at least the stories were twisted. FBI Special Agent, Kenneth V. Lanning stated that "ritual" child abuse was not something people should fear due to that lack of evidence despite 50,000 claims of children falling victims to these cults being made.
Antisemitism
When you look at what RAMCOA means on social media, the words alone, and simple definitions, it's not easy to see the antisemitism behind it. However, looking into what the term describes, is used for, and the history of it allows you to see just how the term is antisemitic.
To understand, we need to first go back to the Satanic Panic and what that was. Moral panic about Satanic cults with no proof behind them. During the Satanic Panic, many people were falsely accused of being members of these cults, sacrificing and abusing children, ECT with no proof behind it. Now, we move on to another topic; Blood Libel.
Blood Libel is an antisemitic conspiracy theory that has existed for a very long time. It is the belief that Jewish people are sacrificing non-Jewish children (typically Christians) to use their blood for rituals during/close to Passover. There have been accusations of these things made on Jewish people with no evidence of them what so ever.
Sound familiar?
This is exactly what was happening during the Satanic Panic. The only difference is that they are not out right saying it was Jewish people. However, take into consideration that hardcore Christians often call anything or anyone that doesn't follow their religion "Satanic" and investigators have noticed that within the SRA/RAMCOA conspiracy theories as well.
The Satanic Panic, SRA/RAMCOA, and Blood Libel all directly connect to one another in terms of belief, theories, and actions even if they don't explicitly state that. Conspiracy theorists don't want you to doubt them for any reason, they want you to share their beliefs. Making their antisemitism less explicit helps them do that.
What's wrong about using it
You can't separate something like this from its origin and meaning. It's a harmful term directly connected to these conspiracy theories rooted in antisemitism. The ISSTD changed SRA to RAMCOA and RAMCOA to OEA but the meanings still stay the same. They still discuss "ritual abuse" and "mind control" in their OEA SIG.
The meanings have always stayed the same despite the names/acronyms changing. Members of the RAMCOA SIG were still a part of the SRA SIG and now moved on to the OEA SIG. They still use the term SRA within the SIG with certain members that have been around since the SRA SIG.
By using these terms you are labeling yourself with outdated/controversial terms (ritual abuse and mind control) that are directly connected to the antisemitic conspiracy theories that hurt Jewish people still. Normalizing the usage of these terms is harmful, it allows the conspiracy theorists to further push people away from associating the term with their wrong doings while they continue to do wrong. Jewish people have expressed their discomfort with this. They have expressed how unsafe they feel in the system community because of this.
You cannot call your blogs, servers, accounts, ECT a safe space for systems if that doesn't include Jewish systems.
Alternatives
Instead of using harmful terms such as RAMCOA or the outdated/controversial terms like ritual abuse and mind control, use the more common and correct terms to describe your abuse.
Institutional abuse
Religious abuse
Phycological abuse
Sexual abuse
Organized abuse (Not OEA)
Sadistic abuse
Cult abuse/survivor
Trafficking (survivor)
Some people have expressed concern that these downplay their experiences. Remind yourself that these terms are not specific to the severity. Any severity of physical abuse is still physical abuse. The term you use will never downplay your experiences. You don't need a term to tell other victims "I had it worse than you."
These terms are just more specific terms for abuse. If it helps you, put "severe" in front of the term you use. It may help you feel less like you're downplaying your experiences. But keep in mind that your experience stays the same no matter what. A term does not change what you went through.
Sources
Sources listed below show proof of connection between the ISSTD and RAMCOA, the things they believe, the psychiatrists from the SRA SIG being involved, Kenneth V. Lannings report on SRA, time lines of the Satanic Panic, and articles showing how Jewish people are being effected/how QAnon is a part of this.
Investigator's Guide to Allegations of "Ritual" Child Abuse
Blood Libel
The Satanic Panic in the Missouri General Assembly
RAMCOA SIG (Web Archive)
Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, & Organized Abuse Special Interest Group (RAMCOA SIG)
Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, & Organized Abuse (RAMCOA) SIG
QAnon, Blood Libel, and the Satanic Panic
America's Satanic Panic Returns - This Time Through QAnon
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What "Counts" as OEA?
I saw a post that disgruntled me enough to want to talk about this, so here we are. There seems to be a heavy amount of misinformation on what "counts" as OEA, often excluding adult victims and non-programmed victims. So, within this post, we'll go over what the terms "OA, MC, and RA" mean, as well as commonly construed myths.
Organized Abuse
all-encompassing.
Organized abuse is a wide term that includes experiences of ritual abuse and mind control but is in no way exclusive to them. Often, only organized child sexual abuse is mentioned, which leaves out a lot of experiences it includes.
The most simple definition of organized abuse is "Abuse that involves a number of people doing something together in a pre-planned and/or structured way, rather than acting alone." In short terms, abuse done by multiple people in a planned way. [1]
All groups under the RAMCOA/OEA label will fall under this category. This includes, but is not limited to, Cults, Trafficking Rings, Labor Camps, "Troubled Teen" Camps, Intra-Familial Organized Abuse, and other experiences that fall under this definition. This includes victims indoctrinated into cults, trafficked, or otherwise abused as adults, as well as children born or brought into it. Location of the abuse (at home, in a church, at school, at a daycare, etc) doesn't matter, and someone does not have to go through ritual abuse or mind control to have experienced organized abuse.
Ritual Abuse
not inherently satanic.
Ritual abuse is a term often confused with SRA, or "Satanic Ritual Abuse," an outdated and often harmful label for forms of organized extreme abuse. Not all forms of organized abuse are ritual abuse.
Ritual abuse can be defined as "Abuse that occurs in a context where symbols or activities have superstitious, supernatural, or religious connotations. It is organised, often involving multiple perpetrators, and the abuse often happens as part of a rite or ceremony." Alternatively, the word 'ritual' refers to "a rite, ceremony or pseudo- religious service which involves a series of actions performed in a fixed order and/or at certain times; something that is done in the same way whenever a particular situation occurs." [1] [2]
Because of this, ritual abuse can be defined while including spiritual themes and non spiritual themes. So, many definitions include other forms of abuse that is ritualized/specifically repeated in nature, such as on a specific day or time or in a specific order.
This type of abuse is most dominated in literature by satanic overtones, once again from the term SRA. However, this is not exclusive to satanic cults. Any group based on a belief system or using other reoccurring themes/abuse can perpetrate ritual abuse. Though ritual abuse is also more commonly linked with mind control and child abuse, programming and age have no impact on if an experience is ritual abuse or not.
Survivors of ritual abuse include things like ritualistic ceremonies, games, symbols, set-ups, abuse on specific days/holidays, abuse in a specific order, etc as common experiences.
Mind Control
programming and beyond
Mind control tends to be the term that receives the most problems, as many people tend to only think of programming when hearing it. However, MC is not exclusive to programming survivors, and many types of MC have been recognized.
A good definition of MC is "Methods of thought reform to force submission or information from enemies and victims, or to indoctrinate and increase cooperation in members and captors," and is a synonym to coersive persuasion, defined as "attempts to force people to change beliefs, ideas, attitudes or behaviors using psychological pressure, undue influence, threats, anxiety, and/or intimidation." [3] [4]
Programming is an example of the far end of mind control, a severe form of conditioning. However, things such as cult and religious indoctrination, psychic driving, terrified submission, etc, are all also forms of MC that can occur within organized abuse. MC is not exclusive to child victims, as most forms of MC can be performed at any age.
Thank you for reading. If you have any questions or additions, feel free to send an ask or reply to this post. A reminder that I am not a professional, I am flawed, and I am just doing my best.
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one thing that is really devastating about being programmed is the self blame and self hatred that it can accompany. I feel like a freak for some of my thoughts and some of my desires, they're disturbing to the degree that the dissociation is there to push it as far away as humanely possible, to convince myself I don't have any such desires. for example, a huge part of me doesn't want to separate from my handlers, or live a normal life. but that can't be right. the things being done to me aren't okay. why am I attracted to them? to pain, abuse? why does it make me feel safe? well I know why, but it's still devastating.
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WHAT IS RAMCOA
TW for discussion of RAMCOA and programming RAMCOA stands for Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, and Organized Abuse. below i will explain what each of these means RITUAL ABUSE is abuse done in a ritualized manner. this can have an ideology behind it but it doesnt always. an example would be abuse occurring at the same time of year (for example, on the individuals birthday, or on a holiday) in the same manner, or abuse occurring at the same time of day each day with a religious ideology behind it MIND CONTROL includes things such as TBMC and programming. TBMC stands for Torture Based Mind Control, it is the intentional implementation of triggers (cues) into a victim to make them behave in specific ways or believe specific things, done through torture. programming is a form of TBMC done with the intent to form dissociative states ORGANIZED ABUSE is abuse done in an organized manner. this involves multiple perpetrators and often multiple victims as well. some examples would be cults and trafficking rings in my opinion, you do not have to experience all of these to be a RAMCOA survivor. they often go together, and are closely linked, but not all OA survivors will be MC survivors, for example, and that doesnt make their experiences any less real - grey
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Me when my programs I'm in denial about go off:

#ramcoa#tbmc survivor#childsoldiers#memes#tbmc#programming survivor#fox#ahhhhh#suffering#cw vent#cw child abuse
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