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armageddon-generation · 2 years

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What The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Could Have Been

(All the deleted scenes, cut concepts and studio notes that could've saved this movie)

(Sequel to this post on TASM deleted scenes)

COMPILED FROM:

deleted scene compilation

Comparison to a rough cut

An analysis of an earlier draft, from the International Business Times

Badass Digest’s look at the earlier script

Kevin Feige’s notes on the movie for Sony

BTS footage of Mary Jane scenes

OPENING

“There are too many story lines and we need to choose which ones we are focusing on and lift out the other ones, ie; could reduce father arc to just Roosevelt?

"Could cut out plane crash and Richard destroying spiders”

Young Peter and Harry play chess at the Parkers’ Wake, mentioned in the director’s commentary:

“Peter was this lonely child in this room of adults, and he snuck off to his Dad’s study, and in walked Harry … They started playing chess, it was kind of a metaphor and I can’t remember the exact dialogue, but it was this lovely moment of these boys connecting and finding each-other. [Before this] Their relationship had been all about going to their fathers’ labs … They turn and there’s this silhouetted man in the beginning of his degenerative disease holding onto his cane.”

Starting the movie in Richard Parker’s study (just like hide and seek in TASM) creates a thematic through-line with the first film

Much stronger setup of Harry and Peter’s friendship

Better setup of the disease and Norman’s shadow over Harry and Peter

Ties into Fiege’s recommendation:

“If you cut Richard from the opening and the plane crash maybe you could instead do Harry coming home and seeing Norman at the top of the movie as a cold open.”

TRUCK CHASE

MJ is waitressing at a café during the opening truck chase

“Don’t start with Spider-Man….let the danger/stakes to NYC build first and then have Spider-Man enter the scene heroically.”

“Tone down Paul Giamatti performance, so he seems a bit more menacing and less cartoonish.”

“There could be a better way to reveal that Peter is missing graduation – maybe when you cut Gwen you cut to the wide shot?”

“Tiny note – don’t think Peter would lie to Gwen about sirens --- maybe he just downplays it…”

“Stan Lee Cameo – maybe need a little more emphasis on Peter here trying to get out of his costume and not be in seen…set up a little more the pressure of the principal getting closer and closer to calling his name.”

“Instead of seeing the ghost of Captain Stacy, can just here the voice in Peter’s head and maybe flash back to the last movie? Don’t think we should add Cap Stacy back into car chase.”

Flash at Graduation

Just a cute little character moment, and more continuity from TASM. Webb does these so well

“There is too much back and forth with Peter and Gwen – can we recut the Dim Sum scene so that it doesn’t feel so repetitive of their break-up in the last movie – Can Peter be more honorable and definitive and less wishy-washy?”

TIME JUMP

“There’s an entire year gap between the high school graduation and most of the rest of the film. This year gap makes Peter’s forlorn attitude towards Gwen cute instead of creepy, and it establishes that they’re college students. Gwen’s application to Oxford make more sense – in the finished film it’s like she decided to go to college at the last minute.”

Max’s Mother

Max is looking after his bed-bound mother, who is emotionally abusive - she doesn’t remember or care about her own son’s birthday

Stronger setup of Max’s isolation, more personal than just his rejection by Spider-Man

His freakout here plays better than the one at Oscorp for ‘disrespecting’ Spider-Man

Links to an important deleted scene later on

Gwen and Max in the elevator

“It must be pretty cool, to have the whole world see you like that. I wish I was like him.”

J Jonah Jameson

Peter, now a student at Empire State University, brings his first Spider-Man pictures to JJJ, who gives him a tour of the Daily Bugle offices in Times Square.

We meet Robbie Robertson and JJJ complains that the internet is killing print media

Electro in the Subway / wandering New York

Electro returns home

He finds his supposedly bedridden mother walking, and cashing in on his death

Much stronger, personal reason for Max’s psychotic break as he heads to Times Square

Extended Times Square Battle

“Spidey and Electro’s first fight send them crashing through the Daily Bugle offices and the printing presses-”

JJJ gets his scoop

This could’ve fed into the city treating Max like a freak

Peter Meets MJ while working on his Electro-proof webbing

MJ and her drunkard father have just moved in next door. She builds motorcycles as a hobby and has a spider tattoo on her wrist; she’s a Spidey fan and has a crush on Peter

Peter and Gwen angst in their rooms after Times Square

Harry tells Peter Oscorp is watching him

Cool introduction of the Goblin suit, and we establish the power plant for the finale

More Felicia. Another moment showing Harry’s disease

“He spent more time watching you than me.”

The boys are united in their quest for answers about their dads

“Surveillance scene should be about following Harry not Peter…no one should be following Peter.”

“Harry story feels like the main plot of the movie – Peter should look into the past b/c of Harry – maybe find some photos of them together as kids…use obsession wall more to set up this part of his past not just what happened to parents.”

Feige seems to want the order to go:

Gwen and Peter angst in their rooms

Surveillance scene (focusing on Harry)

Obsession Wall (focusing on Harry)

Spidey vs Copycat

Just a cute Friendly Neighbourhood scene, this movie did them so well

Spidey Confronts MJ's Father

Something we never got from the Raimi version, fitting for this version of Peter. Another cool Neighbourhood moment

DR RATHA

“[In TASM] Dr. Ratha seems to have been killed in deleted scenes, but the actual movie leaves him alive … He shows up in the script for TASM2, filling the same role as Donald Menken... the Oscorp stooge who engineers Harry’s dismissal from the company.

Nice continuity [from TASM]. All of the basic elements of Ratha’s role are in the finished movie, there’s just a different name attached.”

ALTERNATE GOBLIN SUIT BACKSTORY

“In the original script the Goblin suit isn’t for military use but was specifically built in secret to heal/help Norman Osborn [After] Richard Parker wouldn’t give his blood to Osborn (the Parker DNA still being the key to it all). The suit went into Norman’s boathouse where Harry finds it.”

Harry finding the Boathouse parallels Peter finding Roosevelt

Norman making the Goblin suit emphasizes how Harry is being manipulated by his father from beyond the grave

“Don’t like the idea that May tells Peter his parents were spies b/c two seconds later he finds out they are not.”

Gwen is accepted into Oxford

This is such a brief moment, why didn’t we actually see it?

Gwen Writes a Letter to Peter

Replacing the voicemail she leaves him in the Theatrical cut

After escaping Ravencroft, Max meets Harry at his father’s grave

Max considers killing Harry as revenge for his accident

They consolidate their partnership. Doing this at Norman’s grave foregrounds his influence on Harry

Spreading Max and Harry’s union across two scenes is just better pacing, considering they’ve never met before Max’s escape

Gwen visits Aunt May as she’s leaving for Oxford

Gwen meets MJ:

MJ asks how she can find someone like Peter, all the guys she attracts are “dickheads”. Gwen replies “date a nerd”

Aunt May encourages Peter to go after Gwen

MAY: Peter, what is the matter with you? You love this girl with all your heart and soul. Does she know that? Have you told her?

PETER: No.

MAY: Then give her that. The rest of it’s up to her. And you don’t have forever, none of us ever do.

Great character beat alluding to the loss of Ben, foreshadowing Gwen’s death, and setting up “I love you” on the bridge

Another mirror to TASM, where May encourages Peter to pursue his relationship with Gwen (“If there’s one thing you are, Peter Parker, it’s good.”)

Extended birth of the Goblin/ Harry attacks Oscorp

Love the body-horror here

Pumpkin bomb!

Menken's [or Ratha’s] death. Plus it just gives Harry more to do

Alternate final Electro battle

Spidey cocoons Max in his new webbing.

Instead of blowing up, Max is drained and ends up in the river- I prefer Spider-Man not outright murdering his villains

“Spider-Man needs to feel more directly responsible for preventing the planes from crashing.”

“Don’t show New Yorkers looting.”

Peter nearly kills Harry

Harry is still conscious and laughing after Gwen’s death. Peter beats him and nearly impales him with his own Glider

we hear Uncle Ben's words from the first film. He doesn't kill him and tells Harry the serum did it to him.

“Need to underscore capture of goblin…more sirens as you linger on the clock 1;21, 1:22 am (nice touch)”

Peter asks for forgiveness at Captain Stacy’s grave

Much better expression of Peter’s guilt than the ghost

“Like the idea that May finds out he’s Spider-Man – finds his costume instead of just the rosemary harris wink-wink all the time.”

“Maybe intercut the ending montage and hearing Gwen’s speech with someone going into special projects and revealing more easter eggs and see that the rhino case has been broke into and the suit is missing…great way to transition to rhino ending.”

Other stuff that isn’t better:

Peter gives Harry his blood

Although this makes Peter a better friend, it also makes him directly responsible for the creation of the Goblin

Extended Goblin Fight

Harry keeps chasing Peter as Gwen falls and breaks her neck with his own hands

Gwen’s last words encouraging Peter

I prefer her instantaneous death, also Peter quitting for months immediately after she says this makes him a huge dick

Richard Parker approaches Peter in the graveyard:

I’m torn on this one. On one hand it finally gives closure to the ‘Untold Story’ subplot Webb allegedly originally envisioned finishing in Film 1

“With great power comes great responsibility”

Andrew acts the shit out of this scene

However you’d need to keep the opening plane crash to properly pay this off and the Parker Blood Destiny gimmick is bad

Post-credit scene: Norman’s Head

An extension of the 'Special Projects' Easter-Egg vault, Michael Massee's Gustav Fiers visits Oscorp Vault #3. There we see Norman Osborn's disembodied, frozen head. Fiers ends the scene with "wake up, old friend"

Norman actor Chris Cooper said:

“We shot the scene -- it's so weird -- but it didn't make it into 'Spider-Man 2.' I’m sure it would probably have been one of the opening scenes in 'Spider-Man 3' if they had gone ahead. But he was coming back. It's very bizarre, what they came up with.”

TLDR; We could've got a more cohesive, character-focused film driven by Peter's relationship with Harry. A better-developed Electro, more continuity from TASM to stop the film feeling like a reboot, expansion on Harry's illness and Norman's manipulation. MJ could've been our representation of Spider-Man's 'Friendly Neighbourhood' impact, and the worst of the Super Spy Parents would be gone.

It's just a massive, massive shame, man.

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mcondance · 10 months

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every hyperfixation / special interest i’ve had that i can rmbr in chronological order

michael jackson

power rangers mega force and super mega force

let it shine (disney movie)

tmnt 2012

lab rats

michael jackson again

a white boy i will not be naming

black panther

les twins

bucky barnes

CNCO

prettymuch

bts

twenty øne piløts

dpr ian

genshin impact

andrew garfield + tasm

oscar isaac + moon knight

hamilton

dpr ian and his lore and his music

daniel kaluuya + oj haywood

michael jackson AGAIN (current hyperfix)

hobie brown

they cloned tyrone (half hyperfix)

fontaine + john boyega (half hyperfix)

the bear + carmy (little bit? perhaps like a special interest and not a hyperfix)

matthew lillard (i think? we’ll see)

#₊˚. ☆ diary 📓#[important]

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toournextadventure · 7 months

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I'm trying to do a tasm costume thing but right now the only thing I know for sure is a yes are the web shooters everything else I'm second guessing 😭

I was gonna wear the tasm 1 suit (my fav suit) except in long sleeved compressed shirt form so I basically get to wear the top part without having to unzip myself every time I need to take a piss

And then I was gonna do jeans or sweatpants cause it's like a callback to peter b. plus all those bts of Andrew in sweatpants

I really gotta start ordering everything to see what's working and what isn't. Struggling to find the golden lensed mask from tasm 1 tho

PETER B. The man, the myth, the legend, we LOVE him in this house. But also highkey same, might add some sweats but mainly because I'm only wearing it to work and like... I need SOME form of comfy during the day

But also you're a genius? I was not taking bathroom breaks into consideration? See, you just saved me cause I still have time to readjust and plan, you're a real one

TASM spiderman is just 🤌 like you can't get any better. Good luck with the mask though, you'll find it, you got this ✊️

#answered

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asterias-record-shop · 1 year

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—𓆩[shuffle play]𓆪—

𓆩[main masterlist]𓆪 𓆩[request/ask me something!]𓆪 𓆩[bingo masterlist!]𓆪 𓆩[join the bingo taglist!]𓆪

OMG GUYS GUYS GUYS! I really want to have some fun with some stuff here, and I really want to hear more from you guys! So, let me introduce you something new to my blog (of course inspired by other amazing writers) SHUFFLE PLAY - AKA, Bingo!! For fanfic of course... anyways!

here is the bingo card:

And if you need it, here's twenty-five prompts!

"I've never wanted anyone to fuck me this badly."

"Try to stay quiet, alright darling? We're in public, you can't act up like you do in bed."

A: "You need to behave!" B: "Behave? Baby, you don't like it when I behave."

"I like having you covered in me. Smothered in me, full of me. Want all of you, and you need all of me."

"No, you can't touch me, that's your punishment. You have to sit there and watch."

"Why don't you put that pretty mouth to use for something else, hm?"

"I swear, honey, you look so much better with my cock in your mouth."

"I love you darling, I do, but I fucking love when you get all cock obsessed for me."

"No, no don't do that! I'll be good, I promise!"

"What, does that feel good? Hm? Tell me how good it feels."

"Who said we had to have sex on the bed?"

"Oh my darling girl, I have to mark you -- I need to show everyone who you belong to."

"It's okay to cry, darling, I know it's out of pleasure. Come on, show me how good I make you feel. Cry for me."

"We've been at it for hours, how are you still hard?!"

"I know for a fact you can be a hell of a lot louder than that, darling. Come on, scream for me."

"What? Don't stop on my account, I'm enjoying the show."

"Do you think they heard us?" "Yes. We did."

"Don't you know the hat rule, darling? Take a cowboy's hat, you're in for the ride of your life."

"Don't be gentle. I want it all."

"Please, please- I'll be good, I just need to fuck you."

"You're such a good girl/boy, honey. I think you deserve a treat."

"First one to make a noise loses, and I know how much you hate to lose."

"You know I hate it when you tease me, darling."

"Never knew such a slut would like this so much."

"We're in public, y'know."

EVERYONE I WRITE FOR IS LINKED HERE! DON'T BE SHY TO ASK IF I WRITE FOR A CHARACTER! If requests don’t go well, I will do it on my own, but I really want you guys to interact and have a choice!! Let me know if you have any questions :)

UPDATE (06/14/23) I wanted to make sure that it was clear this will be BLACKOUT bingo! All spaces will be used!!

How to request: Just send in a request starting with: "BINGO: (space name) with (character name) and prompt (#) and a brief overview or description on what you want to happen in the fic! Please remember that fics might take me a while :)

Requests as of 06/09/23 MUST include a please and a thank you!!

Additional characters that I can think of are Ethan Landry, Dave Lizewski and other characters from the fandoms listed in my main masterlist ♡

AGHHHH AS OF JUNE 14TH 2023, WE GOT OUR FIRST BINGO WITH:

'HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEARTS' with Dylan O'Brien 'YANDERE' with Finnick Odair our 'Freespot' 'MOMMY KINK' with Ethan Landry and 'SPOILED RICH READER' with Stiles Stilinski!!!

SECOND BINGO AS OF JUNE 16TH 2023 WITH:

'HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEARTS' with Dylan O'Brien 'OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE' with Ethan Landry 'WEDDING NIGHT' with Andrew Garfield 'SOULMATES' with Finnick Odair and 'SPOILED RICH BOY' with Finnick Odair!!!

All fics are listed in the masterlist!!

THIRD BINGO AS OF JUNE 29TH 2023 WITH:

'FRIENDS TO LOVERS' with TASM! Peter Parker 'SUGAR MOMMY' with Spencer Reid 'HIMBO' with TASM! Peter Parker 'YANDERE' with Finnick Odair and 'FANTASY AU' with Finnick Odair!!!

Taglist: 𓆩[@lem0ns77]𓆪 𓆩[@cecepop15]𓆪 𓆩[@memeorydotcom]𓆪 𓆩[@your-favorite-god]𓆪

Oh, and I think that's it! I hope you enjoy, and please, don't be shy requesting! Please make sure to check reblogs for updates, there's a tab in the notes to see them :)

with love, asteria ♡

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jdopes-recorder · 9 months

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You know that sinking feeling that you get, when you say something you regret? The moment he realises what he just said. The moment he sees the pain and betrayal on your face. The moment he sees the tears glistening in your eyes.

All for what? Why did he say that? To get the upper hand? To have some sick satisfaction in you being hurt more than him?

The moment when he wishes more than anything to be able to turn back time. To turn it back and take away your pain. Take away your tears. Tears that are there because of him. Turn back time and hold you close, kissing your forehead and stroking your hair, whispering his love for you with soft and affectionate tones.

The moment he realises he just broke your trust.

And he doesn't know if he'll ever get it back.

#i think this can be used for anyone so I'll just some #skz angst #skz imagines #skz drabbles #bts angst #bts imagines #ateez angst #ateez imagines #tasm angst #jjk angst #i wont put anymore cuz i think I'll seem like a self righteous bitch if i put more tags

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webslingingslasher · 2 months

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okay so. I pictured frat!peter as mcu pete when I was first introduced to him but then I went back to see the tags cuz that usually indicates which one of them it’s written about and it said tasm!peter and I had to rewire my brain and reread the fic and try to picture him instead 😭😭 and now I can’t see mcu!peter…LMAO

but imma be honest, it’s not even him in the movie—it’s Andrew in the bts of tasm. the vibes are very distinct and different lemme tell you!!!!

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3HSYo8/

like yeah…that’s him. (to me)

yup i see it and i agree.

#thanks anon!

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emma-cantmakeuphermind · 11 months

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Who and What I Write For!!!

If a Fandom/Character is Bolded, that means requests for them are Open. If it is not bolded, they are closed. Thank you!

Movies

Harry Potter

Ron Weasley

Hermione Granger

George Weasley

Fred Weasley

Cedric Diggory

Seamus Finnigan

Draco Malfoy

Oliver Wood

Remus Lupin (Marauders Era)

James Potter (Marauders Era)

Sirius Black (Marauders Era)

Regulus Black (Marauders Era)

Lily Evans (Marauders Era)

Marlene McKinnon (Marauders Era)

Mary MacDonald (Marauders Era)

Fear Street

Simon Kalivoda

Kate Schmidt

Tommy Slater

Nightwing Killer

Ziggy Berman

Nick Goode

Solomon Goode

Mad Thomas

Richie Tozier (young and old)

Bill Denbrough (young and old)

Stanley Uris (young and old)

Ben Hanscom (young and old)

Eddie Kaspbrak (young)

Beverly Marsh (young)

Mike Hanlon (young)

Marvel

Peter Parker (MCU)

Peter Parker (TASM)

^ frat!peter… iykyk

Steve Rogers

Bucky Barnes

Wanda Maximoff

Natasha Romanoff

Sam Wilson

Bruce Banner

Tony Stark

Scott Lang

Scream

Sidney Prescott

Billy Loomis

Stu Macher

Randy Meeks

Dewey Riley

Tatum Riley

Derek Feldman

Mickey Altieri

Roman Bridger

Kirby Reed

Charlie Walker

Tara Carpenter

Wes Hicks

Chad Martin-Meeks

Mindy Martin-Meeks

Richie Kirsch

Amber Freeman

Anika Kayoko

Ethan Landry

Back to the Future

Marty McFly

George Mcfly

The Breakfast Club

Andrew Clark

Brian Johnson

John Bender

Claire Standish

Allison Reynolds

Stand By Me

Teddy Duchamp

Chris Chambers

Dead Poets Society

Neil Perry

Charlie Dalton

Todd Anderson

Knox Overstreet

Steven Meeks

Gerard Pitts

Richard Cameron

Chris Noel

Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure

Bill Preston Esquire

Ted Logan

Billy The Kid

The Hunger Games

Peeta Mellark

Finnick Odair

Johanna Mason

Cato

Marvel

TV Shows

The Walking Dead

Rick Grimes

Daryl Dixon

Carl Grimes

Glenn Rhee

Alden

Negan Smith

Rosita Espinosa

Tara Chambler

Stranger Things

Steve Harrington

Eddie Munson

Mike Wheeler

Dustin Henderson

Lucas Sinclair

Max Mayfield

Robin Buckley

Jonathan Byers

Billy Hargrove

Ginny and Georgia

Marcus Baker

Abby Littman

Hunter Chen

Shameless

Lip Gallagher

Carl Gallagher

Kevin

Svetlana

Jimmy

Video Games

Bully

Jimmy Hopkins

Gary Smith

Petey Kowalski

The Last of Us

Joel Miller

Ellie Williams

Abby Anderson

Jesse

Dina

Red Dead Redemption

Arthur Morgan

John Marston

Durch van der Linde (1899)

Jack Marston (1911 and 1914)

Sean Macguire

Karen Jones

Charles Smith

Javier Escuella

Detroit: Become Human

Connor

Markus

Simon/Daniel/PL600

Rupert/WB200

Life Is Strange

Chloe Price (specifically BTS)

Nathan Prescott

Warren Graham

Sean Diaz

Daniel Diaz (older obvi)

Steph Gingrich

Ryan Lucan

Hogwarts Legacy

Sebastian Sallow

Ominis Gaunt

Gareth Weasley

Leander Prewett

TellTale’s The Walking Dead

Kenny

Clementine

Luke

Javier

Gabe

Mitch

Louis

Marlon

James

Other

Miscellaneous 80s Characters

Edgar Frog

Allen Frog

Sam Emerson

Johnny Cade

Ponyboy Curtis

Sodapop Curtis

Dally Winston

Ferris Bueller

Egon Spengler

Peter Venkman

Alex P. Keaton

Miscellaneous Non-80s Characters

Harley Quinn

Peter Kavinsky

Donnie Darko

Detective David Loki

Homer Hickam

Beck Oliver

Jade West

Rodrick Heffley

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