#the youtube algorithm sucks

[felixcloud6288]

Youtube apparently thinks I'm the only person who likes both ClariS (They made songs for Cells at Work and Puella Magi Madoka Magica) and Myth & Roid (They made songs for Re:Zero and Overlord) cause no matter how much I listen to them, the algorithm refuses to make a mix album with both.

My efforts and experience to get the algorithm to form a link between the two goes:

Play lots of ClariS songs. Now Youtube knows to recommend playlists of their songs

Play lots of Myth & Roid. Now Youtube knows to recommend playlists of their songs

Alternate between them between songs. No integration.

Play more ClariS. Nothing.

Play more Myth & Roid. Playlists start adding a band called Mili (Mili and M&R did a song together one time).

Listen to tons of Mili. Youtube recommends mix tracks of Mili and M&R

Listen to ClariS. Youtube doesn't mix ClariS with anything.

Listen to more M&R. Ender Lillies OST gets recommended (Mili made the soundtrack).

Listen to tons of Ender Lilies. That gets integrated to Mili and M&R

Buy Ender Lilies. Beat it in a month. Remember what I was originally doing.

More ClariS. The playlists now have ClariS, Mili, and Ender Lilies. No M&R.

Play Mili. Start getting Made in Abyss Soundtrack (M&R made some songs for it)

Nier Automata OST randomly shows up one day. I can't find any discernable reason for that happening.

Play more ClariS. Playlist finally shows M&R.

Wait no, it's a playlist of ClariS and Made in Abyss. No non-MiA M&R are here.

Discover at some point M&R removed most of their songs (Likely due to the band leader leaving)

At this point Youtube will make playlists of ClariS, MiA, Ender Lilies, Nier, and Mili; or M&R, MiA, Ender Lilies, Nier, and Mili. Still refuses to mix ClariS and M&R.

New ClariS song comes out. Listen to it nonstop.

Youtube decides the new ClariS song should be associated with M&R and not ClariS.

M&R restores all its songs. Have to start all over.

New band Kokia suddenly appears in playlists.

Listen to tons of Kokia.

ClariS is now willing to associate with M&R but only the songs that weren't previously removed.

M&R still refuses to associate with ClariS though.

This has been a minor pet project for nearly a year now. I have made almost no progress but have found tons of music I love so it's not a total waste.

[futurebird]

The people who do well on the test go to the best schools. That's why we let them in to the best schools.

This is the 3rd time I've seen someone who makes YouTube videos go mad trying to second guess "the algorithm."

YouTube provides creators with a firehose of data: How long people watch, when they stop watching, the distribution of views. YouTube also sometimes selects videos using a secret, unknowable algorithm to be "promoted." For small and medium creators this is a huge deal and the difference between 500 views and 500,000 views.

For self-critical analytical minds it's a toxic combination. Think of it this way: You have all this data to help you improve your videos, if the data meets certain criteria your video gets seen. Your video matters. For those who are trying to make a living making videos it's critical.

But, you don't know what those criteria are. Some of your videos get 100,000s of views some get only 100s. The Algorithm decides. The worst kind of boss or parent is the inconsistent, unpredictable boss who inflicts punishment or anger seemingly at random-- all making you think you ought to be able to figure out why it's happening. You keep struggling to please them, to meet their unspoken formless criteria for success. Improve your thumbnails! (by adding exaggerated faces to them) Avoid these colors. Don't forget to ask people to like and subscribe! (People really are more likely to like a video if you ask. So, you should ask because likes are a factor in the mysterious algorithm, right?)

It reminds me of standardized testing.

Why say "like and subscribe" ? Because the data from YouTube proves that when people ask they get more likes. Having a lots of likes means a video is going to be popular. If YouTube determines that a video "will" be popular then YouTube promotes the video *making* it popular. Ouroboros!

(The people who do well on this test go to the best schools. That's why we let them in to the best schools.)

It's enough to make a person crazy. Once again I'm seeing a creator I like as a person, someone who cares about science get obsessed and maybe a little delusional about little blips and kinks in the watch-time graphs for his videos.

You see suddenly "the algorithm" hasn't been boosting his videos like before. He didn't change anything the views just dropped off. And so he's looking for a reason. He is blaming himself. But... it might not be anything rational. They change the algorithm all the time. My advice is to avoid depending on YouTube (if you have the option.) It's not a good work environment.

I hope that this guy comes out of it. I'm not kidding when I've said it's driven other people mad. Like they had to get therapy because of it... which sounds funny ... until you think about what it would really be like.

Thanks for letting me share about this. It's weighing on me today--

[thepopsicle]

Y’all I’m so fucking tired of people trying to sell us things , it’s all we ever see. sponsored content, ad spon segments on YT, ads below the fucking video, ads above the title, ads IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR VIDEO, unskippable ads, Instagram shop, Facebook market place, tiktok shop, algorithm ads, sims shop IN THE GAME, Pop up ads, paywalled articles, pay walled videos, freemium apps, the “for just 99 cents you can level up” except it’s never JUST 99 cents because they’re targeting the addiction prone, the ads in between every single level of your game.

ADS, ADS , ADS

This capitalistic dystopia is sickening and I’m so tired of people trying to sell things to me.

[guzhufuren]

where are new comebacks.. is everyone enlisted nowadays? ☹️ i haven't listened to music in months

[alfairy]

I hate how youtube will sometimes just randomly recommend you random videos with the most gross horrifying graphic thumbnails of all time

[song-writer-melo-wrath]

You may be mentally ill about BG3, but are you "made a nearly one-and-a-half-hour long video just rambling about BG3" mentally ill?

… Oh, you are?

Me too!

[xxswagcorexx]

thinking about that ashswag testrun ep......

[tarraxahum]

god one of the things I hate the most about today's Internet is the whole. Rage farming thing? Cult of Your Very Important Critical Opinion? Negativity bringing in clicks?

Whatever the fuck is responsible for the fact that I just can't watch a positive video about something I like without being IMMEDIATELY recommended five more of some heads talking about how the thing in question is bad actually

Like uuuugh okay obviously in some way it's just a consequence of being stuck in a proverbial room with all other kinds of people, but like you know what I mean. It's not some guy hating something so much he makes a dedicated page on his website or puts it in his LJ icon or a userbar, it's not a Facebook group of "[BAND NAME] SUCKS" that sometimes floods fans' comments to be annoying, no, it's a fucking content now

People churn out these critical think pieces on any given piece of media endlessly, because it brings them clicks, it brings reactions, it makes them motivated to put that opinion out there even if normally they wouldn't be arsed to care about the subject enough to have an opinion in the first place

Why are all of you fuckers (it's an abstract 'you') so determined to be fucking miserable!!!

[moodr1ng]

is it just me or has the youtube algorithm become absolutely shit at recommending videos...? i feel like a few years ago id go to the front page and within the first few videos thered almost always be something interesting to click on. now ill refresh, scroll down a dozen videos, refresh, scroll, refresh, over and over for minutes on end and its all videos ive already watched, music mixes i never click on and a bunch of videos im not interested in..

[pxme-granate]

this video was hand tailored to be exactly what I want to watch…

[marklikely]

its so weird to me the way people will act like you are trying to murder them if you dare say that you don't like the 6 hour video essay about nothing subgenre. like your preference against overlong substanceless videos is some kind of personal attack against 80% of tumblr users.

[tweedlebean]

I'm once again confused and angry that Amie Waters struggles to get 1k views instead of being someone that's recommended so much that people are sick of her.

[obeliskthetormentorsfeetpics]

Do any of you guys remember when the related videos tab next to youtube videos would show videos related to the one you just watched instead of just showing your recommended feed again? I dont fucking know when that change happened but i hate it so godamn much

[theskeletoninthegarden]

Does my feed not know how much I don't care for videos like "how much this thing sucks, and why!"? Even if I agree with you, a hundred percent, I don't want to take up a half an hour, to two hours, of my free time watching someone bash a piece of media.

[meanderfall]

the way some people frame algorithms as a good thing and the recent idea or push that ao3 should have an algorithm... stop for the love of everything you hold dear please stop

[wowitsverycool]

girl help my 8 year old brother is being radicalized by edgy tiktok memes and family guy and has started spewing transphobic “le only two genders” rhetoric and there’s nothing i can do about it. any disagreement or explanation is met with anger. fuck man i love him so much it hurts to see this happen to him