#to start discourse

[silverechosandblankmasks]

This is def not an attack!! But like;

People who make content/talk specially about Bad Boys and Roomies but don't include Grian really like, confuse me? (Specifically, people who either talk about or make stuff around the dynamics of the series they were in but don't include Grian while still calling them Bad Boys and Roomies)

Don't get me wrong, Grian is not everyone's little guy and I know him being "everywhere" can be a bit tiring for some, and that's so valid!

But like, it's not Bad Boys or Roomies without Grian?? It's Jimmy&Joel and Etho&Cleo then. The reason those are the dynamics and named for those dynamics is because Grian adds to it, he's just not there standing in a corner while they do stuff ya know?

There's nothing wrong with preferring those pairs and being happy these team ups provide them, but you really can't fully remove Grian from these dynamics without destroying how the team is. He was a structural part of Jimmy&Joel's Limited Life experiences, he was a structural part of Etho&Cleo's Secret Life experiences.

I'll refrain from going all analysis on Grian's relationships in the Life Series and the people he teams with for another day, but yee I just wanted to ramble about what iv noticed recently.

[crabussy]

"dolphins are completely evil" I actually don't think we should assign human morality to animals with no concept of law or civilisation with an intelligence roughly equating to that of a toddler

[chromegnomes]

the most frustrating thing about AI Art from a Discourse perspective is that the actual violation involved is pretty nebulous

like, the guys "laundering" specific artists' styles through AI models to mimic them for profit know exactly what they're doing, and it's extremely gross

but we cannot establish "my work was scraped from the public internet and used as part of a dataset for teaching a program what a painting of a tree looks like, without anyone asking or paying me" as, legally, Theft with a capital T. not only is this DMCA Logic which would be a nightmare for 99% of artists if enforced to its conclusion, it's not the right word for what's happening

the actual Violation here is that previously, "I can post my artwork to share with others for free, with minimal risk" was a safe assumption, which created a pretty generous culture of sharing artwork online. most (noteworthy) potential abuses of this digital commons were straightforwardly plagiarism in a way anyone could understand

but the way that generative AI uses its training data is significantly more complicated - there is a clear violation of trust involved, and often malicious intent, but most of the common arguments used to describe this fall short and end up in worse territory

by which I mean, it's hard to put forward an actual moral/legal solution unless you're willing to argue:

Potential sales "lost" count as Theft (so you should in fact stop sharing your Netflix password)

No amount of alteration makes it acceptable to use someone else's art in the production of other art without permission and/or compensation (this would kill entire artistic mediums and benefit nobody but Disney)

Art Styles should be considered Intellectual Property in an enforceable way (impossibly bad, are you kidding me)

it's extremely annoying to talk about, because you'll see people straight up gloating about their Intent To Plagiarize, but it's hard to stick them with any specific crime beyond Generally Scummy Behavior unless you want to create some truly horrible precedents and usher in The Thousand Year Reign of Intellectual Property Law

[puirell]

feels like a good time to bring this back

[breathinginsulfur]

I love not pitting indie animation shows against each other and instead embracing all of them. In the midst of ai slop, corporations always choosing live action/CG over full animation, and the rise in conservatism, we have all these shows that just embrace animation (and usually queerness too). I love TADC, helluva boss, hazbin, lackadaisy, gaslight district, murder drones, all of them, just for what they represent. Animation is not dead and it never will be.

[fandangled-object]

pineapple on pizza this, apple or android that

The real question is:

Have you come into the 'ight of the true faith, or are you still kneel'ing in the halls of the false 'ord?

[hyperions-light]

Abt that unsolicited ‘concrit’ on fanfic thing

My personal opinion is that you should never offer unsolicited critical feedback to people, and you should only offer it publicly at all under specific circumstances. Why?

- Very few people actually know how to give ‘concrit’. They think it just means saying there were surface errors, or they didn’t like how someone was characterized. That’s not concrit. That’s not useful, at all. That’s an amateur review from someone with little to no relevant expertise.

- Especially with fanfiction, you can’t know who you’re speaking to. You can’t moderate tone or intensity of criticism based on their experience and relative skill level. It’s possible that harsh or even moderate critique could make them stop writing forever. Why? What is the point of taking away someone’s joy in that manner? So that the commenter can feel satisfied that they corrected them? That’s cruel and childish.

- Usually fanfiction is published in only one place— maybe three or four, at most. Why should authors be expected to put up with negative criticism in the ONLY place their work is available? Are published authors expected to attach one star Goodreads reviews to their bookjackets?

- If you genuinely wish to help someone improve their writing, you can do so by speaking personally with them and offering your help. The assertion that criticism from a stranger whose opinion they don’t value and whose qualifications are unknown is going to make them better is disingenuous. If someone is sincere in their desire to assist an author in progressing on their writing journey, they should demonstrate that through investing appropriate time and effort. Otherwise, there are many places to complain away from the author’s sight. The only thing accomplished by doing so in front of them is making them feel bad— and if that is someone’s intent, that’s reprehensible.

Anyway. I’ve never gotten useful concrit in my comments or my bookmarks, and I expect I never will.

[tmmyhug]

[midnigtartist]

Finally old man wido(sley)mauk yaoi

[webshood]

not gonna elaborate it rn, but people diminishing Jason's experience with homelessness, malnourishment, childhood abuse and neglect, because he got adopted by a billionaire while also hcning Tim Drake to be abused and starved by his wealthy parents is rooted in racism and classism

[supertaliart]

It’s loving mom!Shaak-ti hours.

[dunyun-rings]

I saw a post that said “Dragon Age discourse walked so that Baldurs Gate 3 discourse could run” and that’s absolutely false. Dragon Age discourse sprinted, foaming at the mouth, so that BG3 discourse could skip happily through a meadow

[that-satireguy]

the idea that 'tma' cis male drag queens experience more misogyny and transphobia than 'tme' trans men (who actually grow up with the systemic disadvantages that being deemed female as you grow up, and are actuallyy yk trans) imo proves a fundamental problem with the tme/tma dichotomy.

In order for this contradiction to exist you either have to say:

-Trans men hold systemic power over certain cis men (straight up untrue)

-Cis male drag queens are not TMA (doesn't work under the established definition of what transmisogyny is, and is contradicted by every major voice in this conversation)

-TMA vs TME doesn't actually work in terms of systemic power dynamics, and only deals with a subset of transphobia, and is not helpful in its current system of use.

[callmecoke]

In the midst of my depression I just want to let everyone know:

If you’re infertile, or simply don’t want children, your fave cod character will love you regardless. Literally any one of them.

I’m tired of seeing so much about domestic breeding kink and blah blah house wife blah blah bare foot and pregnant blah blah. Especially as someone who is chronically terrified of the idea of being pregnant to the point of panic attacks

So for anyone like me, yes, the cod men and women wouldn’t force you to have a child. They’d get it, they’d understand. They probably wouldn’t want kids either. They’re not going to abandon their relationships with you because of you not wanting or not being able to have kids. Because they want you, first and foremost. Anything other than that comes second.

This applies to ALL cod characters. Yes, even Price. Yes, even konig. Yes, even Johnny. Yes, literally all of them.

Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot and probably heavily biased. They also hate child-free people and probably women /j

You’re deserving of love outside of your ability to have a child. You’re deserving of love outside of the EXPECTATION to have a child. You are you, and that’s enough. Both in the real world and in the fictional one.

[scintillyyy]

i do think that despite certain kinds of grittiness occurring in other 90s comics, and even bat comics, 90s bat comics were genuinely pretty firm on the stance that resorting to killing is pretty categorically unacceptable for a bat-character. it's why knightfall is a thesis for "a batman who only cares to stop crime and will kill is not a good batman". it's why when they had characters like huntress and spoiler who were more likely to ask the question of if "maybe some people should die" they consistently got talked down from it as not the right way and would always back down from killing (and why they were allowed to be batfam characters rather than bad guys--the fact that despite the fact they were willing to kill, they chose not to almost every time) (whether or not you agree with the stance that ostensibly was the main stance). like yes. bruce could be a dogmatic asshole about it to people but also. in the words of the batbible itself.

[jjkyaoi]

you can love a content creator and still admit when they’re wrong. i love tommy but i can acknowledge his flaws (he has none) and can hold him accountable for his wrongdoings (he’s never done anything wrong in his life) and call him out for his actions (which are always correct)