#~C: Alice Liddell

[thevalicemultiverse]

Hey guys! I have an amazing game we can play! It's called...

Never. Have. I. EVER!

I even made a little board game of it instead of using our fingers. If you already know the rules, here's just a small reminder. If you haven't done the thing the person says, you move forward, if you have, you stay back. And please be specific, I don't want any confusion going on.

Cuddlepile

Victor: I -- I've actually never played this game, with a board or fingers.

Alice: Neither have I -- comes of missing out on your normal teen years, I presume.

Smiler: I have! Don't worry, it's really easy -- the usual way you play it is that you hold up both of your hands with fingers spread, and everyone takes a turn saying something they've never done. Everyone who has done the thing has to tuck in a finger, and the game keeps going until there's only one person left with any fingers out.

Alice: Oh, all right, that's easy enough. And it sounds like in the board game version, you get to move forward a space if you haven't done the thing, and whoever reaches the end is the winner?

Smiler: That's what I got out of it! [glances at Toonsisters for confirmation]

[ibunyang]

i wanted to put more thought on that modern au doodle i did with both of these gals, Alice M. (mcgee) liddell and Alice C.(caroll) Liddell who met each other in a group therapy session because i thought it would be genius. little rant on the designs i did!! based alice c.'s clothes on the particular copy of the book that i have ! it has a green cover ; this one so more green... blue... the hearts, the clock

i wanted her to seem whimsy more "weird" the orange crocs and stuff were something i found funny, she seems the type to unironically put gibits on them and such... she has a baby doll type dress and pants over it because i just think these would fit a modern alice ? peep the cat on her pants leg hehe, the flamingos and the rose vines on her coat/sleeves are a direct call to the croquet match scene too for her hair, i love making their stark differences prominent. GOD im obsessed with it OTL shes deff a more whimsical/kind bright wonder in direct opposition to alice m's dark and dreary kind of vibe weehee

speaking of her! i really wanted to base her clothes more on the environment that the game puts us in, through the first scene specifically... but i think i kind of diverted form it just a little too much and ended up hyperfixiating on blue butterflies again because of how many times ive seen those things plunging to my death. but anyway, the sort of lace/crochet over coat based on the vale of tears...weepy tear shaped crystals that i think are gorgis. there isnt a direct reason why i placed a spade on her bag other than i really like spades. (also the spade card is somewhat always kind of associated with skulls..i think..) she has a keychain of the ruin baby and the two symbols she has on her apron, gold teeth necklace too i wanted her to seem like a more darker version of alice c. but they're basically the same font different colors type of thing. alice in wonderland has been my favorite book since childhood so UGHH im just a little less than normal about these two. WAHEE okay sorry for the rant i just wanted to point things out and babble a little bit TEEHEE

[marzipanandminutiae]

i'd love to learn just how victorian rational dress reformists would react at contemporary feminine hairstyles!

...in a similar line of thought do we have any records about their opinions on the Practicality of little girls hair or even the 20's bob (if some lived to see it)?

I'm not sure!

One of their biggest beefs with hair in their own time was often with hairpieces: false buns, curls, bangs/fringes, etc. used to augment one's natural hair. I'm not sure if they felt it weighed the head down or the extra pins were uncomfortable or what, but they didn't like it. false hair still exists, but its popularity has vastly waned. so maybe they'd think we had solved some issues- though long hair worn loose all the time would probably be seen as Hampering to women's daily activity

You do see some advocacy for short hair as an easier and sometimes healthier (??) option, but more often I've seen artistic and/or Dress Reform-oriented women with short hair who said nothing about it. You also have men who are...clearly just into ladies with short hair writing long Ye Olde Thinkpieces about how great it is. I mean, no shame there, I guess- everyone has their Thing. And while short hair on women was unusual, the Victwardians didn't seem to regard it with the same massive distrust and hand-wringing as conservative commentators of the 1920s did. Perhaps because it was less widespread?

The idea that little girls not only could have short hair but should was fairly common throughout the 19th century, obviously with variations. Similar reasoning was in play to that you might expect nowadays: that it was easier to care for, and that an active child wouldn't be hindered by it. there was also an idea, similar to that which led some women's hair to be cut off during serious illness, that short hair kept the head cooler and prevented or lowered fevers. I've actually read an admonition to keep children's hair short for just that reason in a book from the 1830s- The Ladies' Medical Oracle, by Elizabeth Mott. obviously this wasn't universal- see also: the original Alice in Wonderland illustrations, although it's worth noting that the real Alice Liddell had a bob as a child

(yes, little girls were expected to be active to a degree- even more if you're reading a book by someone who has experience with Actual Human Children. some doctors fretted that the uterus would be damaged by too much physical activity, but it seems like in practice, parents' were...again, aware of how real children behave. Longfellow's 1860 poem The Children's Hour describes his daughters storming his office to shower him with affection, quite energetically, and it was a smash hit)

as for how they reacted to 1920s bobs...well, most of the adult adopters thereof had at least lived through part of the Long Hair As Default For Women Edwardian era, and their thoughts ranged greatly on the subject. In fact, essays by Irene Castle (believed to be the originator of the trend in her late 20s c. 1913 or 1914, long before it caught on properly) and Mary Pickford (a late adopter at age 36 c. 1928) on why they had vs. hadn't cut their hair are often paired together as a commentary on how the trend was seen, along with others. sometimes these essays are rather strange- one wonders why these women, who must have lived when adult women all wore their hair up every day, describe the alleged oppression of "long, trailing locks." I guess when what you like has some social unacceptability, you might be inclined to phrase things in black and white thus

Dress reformers of the 1920s were more concerned with the deleterious effects of high-heeled shoes and the general idea that young women were encouraged to be too frivolous- and too loose in their sexual morals, as represented by the "short skirts"- actually about calf-length -and low-backed evening gowns of the era. that sounds kind of weird today, in the era of sex positivity, but earlier dress reform had, with a few exceptions, disavowed ideas of sexual freedom as thoroughly as mainstream society did. and I kind of get it- the notion that they advocated "free love" was often used to discredit genuine women's rights groups. still they weren't totally immune to sexual mores of their time, and some likely genuinely believed what they were saying

and that's not even getting into the Coiffure a la Titus trend of the late 18th-early 19th century, which had advocates claiming it was the best thing ever and detractors insisting it would result in women catching colds all the time. it was ever thus

anyway that's a bit of a long-winded answer, but I hope it helps!

[thevalicemultiverse]

Out on the streets of Santa Monica once more, trying to figure out -- what?

Alice starts, blinking, as a woman appears before her, huddled up in one of the alleyways she uses as a shortcut around the city. The other girl is about her age -- and she's looks like she's been through some significant hell lately, sporting a number of rather nasty cuts and bruises. She looks at Alice with big wet eyes, shuddering in her jacket and stammering over her words as she explains the Voermans are after her for some reason. Alice squints at her as she talks. There's something -- vaguely familiar about her face? It doesn't stir any SPECIFIC memories, but she gets the feeling that she should recognize it...

"She'll become familiar to you soon enough," Cheshire tells her, leaning against her leg. "Right now, I'd pay more attention to what's coming out of her face rather than the face itself."

Right, yes. Alice shakes herself out of her little reverie and gives the strange girl a smile. "It's all right," she says, in what she hopes is a soothing tone. "The Voermans aren't anywhere near here right now." She eyes the marks on the woman's skin. "Did -- did they do that to you?" She wouldn't be particularly surprised, given what their personalities are like, but...

out on the streets of santa monica once more .

the newly-turned and recruited camarilla fledgling sits curled up in an oversized jacket , feigning pain as she waits for a certain malkavian to come across her .

it's madeline's mission from the prince and the beloved voermans . become friends with another new vampire , lead her to the ankharan sarcophagus , have her bring it to lacroix , then kill her . simple enough , right ?

cuts and bruises that are self-inflicted litter maddie's pale skin , and she groans performatively to try to get the attention of the other vampire . said vampire , however , is nowhere to be found at the moment .

she sits up straight , cutting the bullshit for a while as she waits for the sound of the other malkavian . she's not sure she can even remember her name . . . alex ? amelia ? no , that's not even close .

she hears footsteps coming down the alleyway she's occupying , and quickly begins her charade once more , this time a bit more convincingly . her eyes drift up to her target , eyes welling with faux tears .

" p-please . . . help me , i-i need your help , " she shudders , wrapping the jacket tighter around her slender frame . " it's the voermans . . . they're after me - ! "

@thevalicemultiverse

[tintyped]

[alice liddell], c. june 25th, 1870, by lewis carroll. photograph: albumen silver print from glass negative.

[littlebvtterfly]

World Building Wednesday for Minty? <3

Thank you, @rose-of-oz! Tagging Descendants moot @dancingsunflowers-ocs!

B A S I C S

full name: Arminta Adelyte Liddell

gender: Female

sexuality: Pansexual

pronouns: She/Her

O T H E R S

family: Alice Liddell (Mother), Abel Liddell (Father), Albert Liddell (Younger Brother)

birthplace: Westminster, London, UK

job: Student

phobias: loss of sanity

guilty pleasures: cigarettes, candy, The Real Housewives of Auradon

M O R A L S

morality alignment?: Neutral Good

sins: lust/greed/gluttony/sloth/pride/envy/wrath

virtues: chastity/charity/diligence/humility/kindness/patience/justice

T H I S - O R - T H A T

introvert/extrovert:

organized/disorganized:

close-minded/open-minded:

calm/anxious:

disagreeable/agreeable:

cautious/reckless:

patient/impatient:

outspoken/reserved:

leader/follower:

empathetic/unemphatic:

optimistic/pessimistic:

traditional/modern:

hard-working/lazy:

R E L A T I O N S H I P S

otp: Minty x Ben!!

ot3: Minty x Ben x Tabitha

brotp: Minty x Tabitha, Minty x Willa, Minty x Carlos, Minty x Falk

notp: Minty x Chad because absolutely notnsw

[hopedflightarc]

𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐓𝐎 𝐊𝐍𝐎𝐖 𝐌𝐄 𝐁𝐄𝐓𝐓𝐄𝐑

𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐀𝐒 / 𝐍𝐀𝐌𝐄: bee / harper

𝐁𝐈𝐑𝐓𝐇𝐃𝐀𝐘: may 1

𝐙𝐎𝐃𝐈𝐀𝐂 𝐒𝐈𝐆𝐍:  taurus

𝐇𝐄𝐈𝐆𝐇𝐓: 5’0"

𝐇𝐎𝐁𝐁𝐈𝐄𝐒:  gaming, reading, sewing / crafting.

𝐅𝐀𝐕𝐎𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐄 𝐂𝐎𝐋𝐎𝐑: yellow!

𝐅𝐀𝐕𝐎𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐄 𝐁𝐎𝐎𝐊: currently the dungeon crawler carl series by matt dinniman; historically it's the enchanted forest chronicles series by patricia c wrede

𝐋𝐀𝐒𝐓 𝐒𝐎𝐍𝐆: joyride by kesha

𝐋𝐀𝐒𝐓 𝐌𝐎𝐕𝐈𝐄 / 𝐒𝐇𝐎𝐖: relative strangers (2006)

𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐄𝐍𝐓 𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐃: just finished "eye of the bedlam bride" by matt dinniman (book 6 of the dungeon crawler carl series). also just started reading "a shore thing" by joanna lowell (queer victorian romance novel with ftm love interest!)

𝐈𝐍𝐒𝐏𝐈𝐑𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍: i could write u essays about the characters that inspired fel's story (biggest ones are anne shirley, wendy darling, alice liddel, and coraline). she is also based off of a character in a dnd campaign i am in!

𝐒𝐓𝐎𝐑𝐘 𝐁𝐄𝐇𝐈𝐍𝐃 𝐘𝐎𝐔𝐑 𝐔𝐑𝐋: eilistraee is associated with the moon, as is lurue. also cleric! she prayed for someone to answer her and the moon did, so she keeps praying.

𝐅𝐔𝐍 𝐅𝐀𝐂𝐓: in the spring i am going back to school (online) to start my master's degree in library science, school not fully decided yet but i have 3 offers!

tagged by: stole it from @maestrojax tagging: yes! :D

[kamil-a]

clover adds pieces to the liddell family puzzle of a) lorina was willing and TRYING to talk to alice about the possibility of leaving home b) alice was AVOIDING the subject while actively preparing to move out because she didn't want to ruin the current Good Times with upsetting her sister (they love it in wonderland when you try to preserve an ephemeral Good Time) and c) lorina also assumed alice moving out=alice married. the way my stomach dropped when she said "no but in the future when you get married and move out-" like AUGHHHH

of course you imagine her physically above you and partaking in the womanly act of embroidery.

[vampyr3wife]

do you have any fun or unusual ideas for halloween costumes? i’m having such a terrible time trying to decide on one this year!

honestly I am still deciding too .. stuck between Alice Liddell and a lamb doll since I already bought the ears .. I always wish I could be a million different things for Halloween though :c !! I would really love dressing up as lady Amalthea ..

[thevalicemultiverse]

Boy with a distant expression (looks to be about 14-15): *crashes headlong into Alice and freaks out* Sorry! I'm sorry! Please don't hit me!

Forgotten Vows

Alice: [starts backward at the crash -- then blinks as the boy freaks out before she can say a word] What -- oh, don't -- it's fine, really! I'm not going to hit you, see? [holds up hands, palm out] It's fine. Please calm down.

[myscalesofjustice]

You know what would be a great name for Riddle's mom? "Lorina". A) It's what the mother and a sister of Alice Liddell were named. B) It's pronounced like Rorina in Japanese, so alliteration remains. C) It means laurel, a symbol of victory and honour. Extremely apt for a results oriented person.

Side note: This is definitely the kind of woman to refuse Mrs. and will only be addressed as Doctor, am I right?

[haze-ships]

Haze • 1993 • She/Her • 🔞 Self-shipping adult, minors dni

This is a space for fandom and my self-ship nonsense. Multifandom, so expect a lot of different topics! I tend to gravitate towards darker media, so please keep in mind that you'll be seeing some amount of blood and guts if you decide to follow. Occasionally nsfw--anything of that sort will be tagged as "#nsfw" and (for anything questionable/suggestive) "#a-bit-spicy". I have a general tag list. (still a wip, check back later!)

I love to share f/os! My fandoms are small, so like… please…if we even just have f/os from the same source, feel free to interact/reach out! I’m desperate for mutuals with similar interests, lmao

My F/Os + tags: ♥ Johnny C from Johnny the Homicidal Maniac - tag: #Cherry-Flavored-Blood-Kisses🔪

♥ Alice Liddell from American Mcgee's Alice - tag: #Curiouser-and-Curiouser🌹

♥ Cybil Bennett from Silent Hill 1 - tag: #Flirting-With-The-Law🚨

♥ Anna (The Huntress) from Dead By Daylight - tag: #Mama-Bear🪓

♥ Daniella Belli from Haunting Ground - tag: #Only-Complete-With-You💜

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[breadnabreadd]

(Posting again because I accidentally deleted the post. Sorry Buddy Anonymous :c)

✦ Oh thank you for asking!

Well, yes. Her full real name is Samantha Liddell and she goes by the nickname Sam. When she's at Wonderland, many people call her as Alice. At first she tried to correct them saying that Alice wasnt her name but for some crazy reason they just keep calling her like that, so, knowing they wouldn't stop, she just accepted being called by Alice in Wonderland.

The two creatures who sometimes call Sam by her real name are the Cheshire Cat and the Jack of Hearts.

✦ And the reason why her clothes changes, well... Let's say she is quite of a Magical Girl and this outfit is her Magical Girl Uniform, y'know? Just like Sailor Moon and others. (Which I really take inspiration on that)

[thevalicemultiverse]

“I -- don’t think you did tell me that, no,” Alice says, genuinely shocked that Bumby wouldn’t tell his own daughter that she survived. Why didn’t he? Did he not know himself -- no, that can’t be it, her survival and subsequent madness was in the papers, she knows that much. . . It’s a mystery, and one she’s not sure how to solve.

But then Adelaide starts talking about Victor and -- “What the hell are you talking about?” Alice asks, putting her hands on her hips. “Chasing? I haven’t done any chasing, I’ve simply made a friend. Who can’t help his family background, and whose wealth isn’t exactly benefiting him at the moment. And so what if he wants to get out of here -- he’s not exactly enjoying his time being told to forget what I feel is a relatively harmless delusion.”

She shakes her head. “I don’t care about his money -- and I don’t care about yours either. And he’s hardly a stranger at this point -- he’s been here a good few months! And has he really? All right, fine, he doesn’t get along well with your father, but other than that. . .” She sighs. “Adelaide, he’s a nice person if you’d just get to know him. And like I said, there’s no ‘chasing’ going on. I’m in no good place to ‘chase’ anyone.”

@thevalicemultiverse

continued from here

adelaide sighs , eyes filled with tears . she quickly wipes them away , before continuing on . " alice , i love you . i've loved you ever since you came back into my life . i don't know if i told you this , but father did not tell me you survived the fire until he notified me of your arrival here at houndsditch . so when i saw you again , for the first time , i felt genuine joy . "

she narrows her eyes , anger filling her heart . " but no . instead of seeing what's right in front of you , you'd prefer to chase after a man , a wealthy man at that , that wants nothing more than to be rid of this place . "

addie takes a breath , steadying herself . " what is it that he has that i don't have , alice ? money ? i'm getting everything from my father when he passes , it's been in his will since i can remember . i can take you away from here , just like he can . the only difference is you know me . you don't know this man , this stranger . ever since he's been here , he's done nothing but cause trouble ! "

[giftgvr]

Thinks about Charlie's Alice in Wonderland motif; falling down the rabbit hole, loss of childhood, both the freedom and horror that comes with it, navigating a crazy world that makes no sense. Alice in Wonderland is also Charlie's favorite fantasy story! Her online username is madmayhare13 in a reference to the story's March Hare, one of her college projects are named Tweedledee & Tweedledum.

There's a very specific meta reason that Charlotte's middle name is Allison and Chuck's is Adelaide, considering what the nickname for both of those names is >:]c

I like to sprinkle in some Alice themed pins on her board too!!

I wouldn't say she's DIRECTLY inspired by works such as Alice: Madness Returns or its Protagonist Alice Liddell, but she's definitely inspired by The Vibe of both. The dark retelling, a world of pure imagination rusting into something more twisted, and trying to survive in and understand such a world. I listen to American McGee's Alice OSTs alot when thinking about Charlie!

( I have to note I haven't finished the OG book or the Game, but I have a decent grasp I think! Apologies if I misunderstood anything! )

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