#AI rant

[ithacasintuition]

AI art has no right being in Helpol/witchy spaces. It's so lifeless. So boring. Your Gods would be disappointed in you. They appreciate your creativity, your imagination, the things you do. They don't care about artistic skill and would be thrilled with whatever you create, as long as it's created with your heart and not a stealing algorithm.

[bieshu]

im sorry but if youre using ai to make art or icons of anyyyy religious figure, deity, spiritual being, etc. i do not respect you.

yeah this might be a little heated but i feel like its so disrespectful not only to the icons, but to every artist throughout the ages stolen from that had pieces of their art mushed together into a gross amalgamation and sorry excuse for worship art.

if you want to use art in our worship, find one of the probably thousands if not billions of pieces of art made for that exact purpose online made by someone real.

and if you want to make art so bad, make it yourself with your own hands. i promise no matter who or what you are worshipping is not going to care about your drawing ability and the quality of your work. your faith and intention is what matters.

scrolling through both christian and pagan tags on here i see it way too often. fuck ai “art”. the gods love you too much to care about your art ability. just love, just worship, just venerate, just pray.

[wolsalwastaken]

Warning, this post contains a rant about ai images and lightly discusses topics like living with a disability. This is not my usual content however I am compelled to make this post as I feel people need to hear it. If you don’t want anti-ai stuff on your feed, just scroll right on past. Thanks <3

(Name censored for anonymity. Don’t go trying to find this person or harass them. I’m pretty sure the original comment was deleted when I went back to check but the post was about using ai as a substitute for art because of the cost of art.)

Again I’m a physically and mentally disabled professional artist who has never once used ai in any capacity for my art or writing. As much as I want to poke fun at this type of mentality it honestly makes me… pretty sad. It makes me fucking sad that people like me are turning to morally despicable alternatives because society and the media has convinced them that they can’t do it.

Your favorite artist might be disabled. A famous artist might be disabled. The artist working their freelance or industry job might be disabled. Believe it or not a very large portion of the art community is disabled people.

You don’t need to extend money on art school or fancy supplies- I started with a pencil and sheets of printed paper bought by the hundreds for a couple bucks and now I’m making money for doing what I love. I’ve never been formally educated. I love art and I love what I do and I will advocate for humanity and disabled artists until the day I die.

Please- whether your disability is physical, mental, or any other sort of impairment, you can do art. Rich or poor, you can do art. You don’t need to steal from those who put in the work.

Reblog or spread this message however you can. I’m sick of disability being used as a cheap scapegoat for this shit. Anyone peddling this mentality should be ashamed of themself. You’re not beyond redemption and you can do better, but you should be ashamed.

Disabled people exist in humanity.

Humanity makes art.

Don’t take the most human thing we have.

Thank you.

[venussaidso]

AI detectors are bullshit because my friend wrote her own work, got flagged for using AI, panicked and paraphrased her own words AGAIN, still got flagged for AI!!

Mind you, she's a decent writer. So she has to dumb herself down and shorten sentences to bypass the AI detectors, for her own writing, which is fucking insane.

I told her to just submit it.

I do the same lmao, idgaf about AI detectors because I know these words are my own.

But it's crazy that human content is getting flagged as AI?? Being a fairly decent writer means you used AI?

Actually insane.

So you have to sound like a fucking prick in your essays to bypass your work getting flagged as 60% AI. Literally getttttttt fuckedddd.

[chopperpirate]

https://copyleaks.com/ai-content-detector

I highly recommend anyone use this for when their RP partner seems sus. Recently saved me from some jerks who used AI to make replies to my hand typed posts.

[fullofmultitudesfullofshit]

i've been thinking about AI a lot lately, and i know a lot of us are, it's only natural considering that it's forced onto us 24/7 by most search engines, pdf readers, & microsoft and apple, but i think what is increasingly making me crazy, as an academic, college teacher, and grad student, is the forcible cramming of it into our everyday lives and social institutions.

no one asked for this technology -- and that's what's so alarming to me.

technology once RESPONDED to the needs and intuitions of a society. but no one needed AI, at least not in the terrifying technocratic data mining atrophying cognitive thought that it's evolving into, and no asked for this paradigm shift to a digital shitty algorithm that we don't understand.

it's different from when the iphone came out and started a revolution where pretty much everyone needed a smartphone. there was an integration -- i remember the first iphone commercial and release news. it wasn't so sudden, but it was probably inevitable given the evolution of the internet and technology that everyone would have a smartphone.

what i know about AI is this: from the first 6 months of ChatGPT's release, they have tried to say it is INEVITABLE.

I walked into my classroom in Fall of 2023 to a room full of 18 year-olds, and suddenly, they were all using it. they claimed it helped them "fill in the gaps" of things they didn't understand about writing. i work with 4th year college students applying to med school -- they use "chat" to help them "come up with sentences they couldn't come up with on their own." i work with a 3rd year pharmacy school student applying to a fellowship who doesn't speak english as a primary language and he's using "AI to sound more American." i receive a text from an ex-boyfriend about how he 'told ChatGPT to write a poem about me.' (it's supposed to be funny. it's not.) i'm at a coffee shop listening to two women talk about how they use ChatGPT to write emails and cut down on the amount of hours they do everyday. i scroll past an AI generated advertisement that could have been made with a graphic designer. i'm watching as a candidate up for the job of the new dean to the college of arts and sciences at my university announces that AI should be the primary goal of humanities departments -- "if you're a faculty member and you're not able to say how you USE AI in your classroom, then you're wasting the university's time and money." i'm at a seminar in DC where colleagues of mine -- fellow teachers and grad students -- are exclaiming excitedly, "I HATE AI don't get me wrong, but it's helpful for sharpening my students' visual analytical skills." i'm watching as US congressional republicans try to pass a law that puts no federal oversight on AI for ten years. i'm watching a YouTube video of a woman talking about Meta's AI data center in her backyard that has basically turned her water pressure to a trickle. i'm reading an article about how OpenAI founder, Sam Altman, claims that ChatGPT can rival someone with a PhD. i'm a year and half away, after a decade of work, from achieving a PhD.

billionaires in silicon valley made us -- and my students -- think that AI is responding to a specific technological dearth: it makes things easier. it helps us understand a language we don't speak. it helps us write better. it helps us make sense of a world we don't understand. it helps us sharpen our skills. it helps us write an email faster. it helps us shorten the labor and make the load lighter. it helps us make art and music and literature.

the alarming thing is -- it is responding to a need, but not the one they think. it's responding to a need that we are overworked. it's responding to a need that the moral knowledge we need to possess is vast, complicated, and unknowable in its entirety. it's responding to a need that emails fucking suck. it's responding to a need that art and music, which the same tech and engineering bros once claimed were pointless ventures, are hard to think about and difficult to create. it's responding to the need that we need TIME, and in capitalism, there is rarely enough for us to create and study art that cannot be sold and bought for the sake of getting someone rich.

AI is not what you think it is -- of course, it is stupid, it is dumb, and i fucking hate it as much as the next guy, but it is a red fucking flag. not even mentioning the climate catastrophe that it's fast tracking, AI tech companies by and large want us to believe that there isn't time, that there isn't a point to doing the things that TAKE time, that there isn't room for figuring out things that are hard and grey and big and complicated. BUT WORTH, FUCKING, DOING.

but there is. THERE ALWAYS IS. don't let them make you think that the work and things you love are NOT worth doing. AI is NOT inevitable and it does NOT have to be the technological revolution that they want us to think it is.

MAKE ART.

ASK QUESTIONS.

STUDY ART.

DO IT BAD; DO IT SHITTY.

FUCK AI FOREVER.

[piplupcola]

Some shameless POS literally used AI to steal my friend's animated film

I usually don't post stuff like this but this shit's insane and downright insulting. I graduated from Ringling College of Art and Design in 2022, a pretty well known animation school in the US, and every animation student on their final year of college has to make an animated film for our final thesis. If you have any idea of the animation making process, you would know that making an entire film by yourself in one year is batshit insane and extremely exhausting, to the point where I'm still feeling the effects of the process on my physical and mental wellbeing 2 years after I graduated. Once more, my friends and I did it during the covid period, which was another level of hell. I was literally watching my grandfather's funeral while working in the labs at 2am because I couldn't fly home to attend it because we had to make this film. This film was our lifeblood, the culmination of 4 years of hell at school which was suppose to be our gateway into the industry. Tldr, it's fucking difficult to do, especially on your own.

So imagine 2 years later and I wake up to a bunch of messages on our alumni chat where a dear friend of mine posted a link to a tiktok video of someone literally stealing her entire film and superimpose it shot by shot and claim it as their own ad for their AI game. As animators, we aren't unaware of people stealing our films and reposting them elsewhere. Heck my own film "The End" was stolen from our school vimeo and posted on tiktok BEFORE IT WAS EVEN OFFICIALLY RELEASED, and that tiktok got hundreds of thousands of views while a year after my own real release my film is still struggling in the thousands.

But this

This is a fucking new low.

Can you imagine? A fresh graduate going through literal blood sweat and tears to make a film on their own that is so important to their future in the industry, to get them a job, with a film that represents a part of themselves to the world, just used as fodder for some stupid tech assholes? It's infuriating. It's insulting. It's literally a big fuck you to the hundreds of students who spent their lives toiling to make these films from the heart who are just desperate to get into the industry.

The animation industry right now is in complete shambles. People are graduating from animation schools with thousands of dollars in dept only to be met with a wasteland of minimum wage and lack of funding and competing for jobs with people who have already been in the industry for years affected by the massive layoffs not only in the movie but also the gaming industries. These films we make for our thesis aren't just films made for fun, they represent our lifeblood, our only opportunity to get a job as a graduate in this sea of hell. If you didn't make a good film, chances are you're never even stepping foot in the industry ever. It's our golden ticket that we would put thousands of hours through, sleepless nights and pushing through no matter the circumstances of sickness and pain it caused us.

And now some dumb fucking AI using dickbags see that and decide it's worth nothing.

Here's a link to my friend's real film. Please go watch it and support her work. I'm not even gonna link the other piece of shit tiktok because I don't want that video to even get a single extra view but here's a recording my friend made so you can see this malarkey side by side.

It's heartbreaking to see my friend's film barely getting any views while the stolen garbage is already in the thousands. I hope the person who stole my friend's work and made that shit dies in a fiery car crash and go straight to hell.

I cannot emphasise how we must not let this shit continue to happen. We're living in a fucking dystopia and unless we do something about it and support those affected by it it's only going to get worse. They're already expanded from stealing people's still art to stealing people's entire films, if we don't stop this nothing we create would ever be safe.

My friend's film:

The shameless fuckheads who stole her film:

[abacus-jpg]

Anyone else not understand why people are moving to cara. Like I understand it’s because ai and shit,, but like. What confuses me is as long as your art is on the internet, aslong as you chose to post your art online anywhere, doesn’t matter where, it is prone to being stolen by ai. To me ai is nothing more then when people trace your art and call it their own. Ofc I don’t want people to do it, but ultimately that will not stop them. I do have a cara account, I was the first to claim abacus. When I tried posting there a few times I’ve been met with an error message, alongside that the app is really buggy and slow. I don’t see why people feel the need to come up with new apps to post art on when you could just use tumblr, but then the argument with tumblr is that there’s no engagement. But if we all flock to tumblr like people are flocking to cara then I don’t see why engagement would be such a big issue. Even then, if engagement is your main concern with your art I feel like you should reevaluate why you are pursuing art in the first place. I had this struggle ages ago where I didn’t feel my art was worth anything because I couldn’t cap 10 likes. But I realized, my art is for me. I’m the one that should be enjoying it, and my reason for posting now is for other people to enjoy it, so if they don’t,, I really don’t care all the much. I understand it is really detouring to post ocs and to have zero engagement, but that’s just the way art is. Unless you are producing fanart consistently of shit that is made into content farms, I really don’t see how you can garner a following just doing ocs. That’s why, doing art for your own sake is more important than trying to please everyone. I can guarantee there’s atleast one stranger on the internet that will fw your stuff the way you want. And the more you post, the more the number will grow. Most of the time it’s gradual, but one goes to two, two goes to three. And maybe you’ll only get one or two. But the important thing is, there’s someone. If you feel like you have no one, remember your art is for yourself. You’ll always have one, even if that is yourself. This might all seem contradictive. But trust, only you matter when it comes to your own artwork.

This “speech”, if you can call it that, isn’t to deter people from drawing and posting their ocs. This is just to say, engagement shouldn’t matter. As long as you’re happy, that’s all the matters. Post and draw what you want aslong as it’s not straight ripping from someone else. Idc.

This whole thing was supposed to be abt Cara but it turned into a uhh,, Ted talk of sorts. I’m not saying people shouldn’t use cara, if it works for them then by all means go for it. But personally I will not be making it my main form of social media. In my opinion, it’ll be like that other art app people were using for a week before they forgot abt it, I forget the name of it but I remember the interface was a light pink, similar to Instagram,, but somehow worse.

IM GONNA SPECIFY THAT I DONT CONDONE AI STEALING PEOPLES ART EITHER,, just putting that out there because some people have a way of misunderstanding or misinterpretating things. Which is okay!! Because some people genuinely get confused and that’s alright. But like please don’t use so first handedly. With that being said, I’m just a nobody on the internet so why would you listen to me,, you won’t. But i uhh,, am gonna put that there anyways

Thanks if you read allat,, idk why you would but that’s anyways I guess😭😭😭

[charcoai-gray]

Anti Ai Rant <3

Yes. I do think I'm better than you for not using ai

If I see you using ai I will report you to the administration. I am not kidding. I just saw 2 people use ai in an entry level college course on a test and reported them. If you don't know the answer just circle C and move on like the rest of us.

An ENTRY LEVEL course!!!!

OUR PROF. CURVES OUR GRADES!!!! YOU CAN GET A 10/30 ON THE TEST AND STILL GET AN 80% FINAL TEST GRADE!!!

YOU DON'T NEED AI!!!

If you have to use ai to cheat you're pathetic and should drop out. Like, get out and let someone intelligent have your wasted spot. You're a pathetic wet sock and I hope that the tree replacing the oxygen you're wasting doesn't get cut down.

Pussy.

[miss-tarja]

How do you feel about people using any AI bots to roleplay? (Like c.ai).

I'm asking because a lot of people seems to care or others don't. In general we know AI steal a lot of content so AI roleplay bot might do the same with fictions and all no ? In the end, I'm just curious.

Hello, nonny!

As for your question, I'm a bit confused at the last part of it, but I'll reply as best as I could understand.

Roleplaying and feeding purposely the AI with fiction from others or your own, to train it or write things for you (disgusting af btw) Are two completely different things.

As far as I know, there's AI's used for specific roles, such as roleplays when you can create a character, a personality for the bot and all that jazz. For example, C.ai, Janitor, Poe, Caveduck, Hi Waifu, etc.

And AI that's is constantly trained and used for academic, literary and now, sadly, creative purposes. Like CHATGPT and others I don't recall at the moment.

What I'm trying to get at is, there's specific functions an AI is created for. Sure both need human intellect to happen (And sure both do leave a climatic impact as well), difference is, one steals your data without consent (Like that A03 scrapping event. Mines got scrapped :/) to" improve the quality of reply and creative works" people ask in the chats and "feel like you're talking to another human" vibe. (Or people know this and truly don't give a flying fuck and still feed it with other's people's work just to "write " or get their own ending from a story they liked.) (Also double fucking disgusting btw.)

And the other one, is trained by yourself to give the answers you expect based on the metric you've input in the bot creation chart.

Roleplaying, in its majority seems harmless. Because you can control what to give, what to share and write, and how your own story goes.

Unless you purposely roleplay your own fictional work to develop a story to then write it. (That'd be like stealing and sabotaging yourself.)

But using generative AI's to write full stories is Not fine and never will. That's for lazy and uncreative people.

Sadly, no data is 100% safe. How to protect it? DON'T USE AI TO WRITE OR IMPROVE THINGS FOR YOU (Even for spellcheck, that's basically giving away your work. Cause every reply you get from the AI, is a stolen idea.)

I hope this answers your question. (Very thought provoking ❤️)

And Fuck Generative AI.

[atlas-jack]

im about to flip my fucking lid, dude. my phone forced an update that has made my ui like an iphone and has force installed a bunch of ai shit i cannot remove. i now have 'bixby' and 'gemini' installed and i cannot remove them, only disable them. and also 'galaxy ai' which has no opt out or anything, its just fucking there in my settings.

if i wanted an iphone i would have bought one. if i wanted ai features i would have bought a device that had the capability. im genuinely considering swapping back to a flip phone and a laptop. stop forcing these things on me!!!!

[futurebird]

Everything made by AI looks like the lobby of the 3rd worst casino. So deeply tacky.

Imagine the guy who hangs up one of those fake AI "schematic" drawings of a fictional spaceship on his wall. From a distance you get a little excited to look at the diagram and see all of the compartments and machine systems.

But, when you look more closely none of it makes sense. It's a fake impression of curiosity, creativity, imagination.

Plastic gold-plated pastiche of "I'm creative & have ideas"

I think the fact that it's tacky explains why it won't go away. Tacky stuff has always been around, there are always people who will tolerate, or even want tacky things.

(And for each of us there is something we like that someone who knows a bit more about that kind of object would find tacky. The concept is relative.)

I guess what's new with AI images is they can only ever be tacky. They can only ever be attempts to imitate something better.

When a person tries to make an image, most of the time the result is bad.

It could be technically incompetent, incomprehensible. AI has technical competence and is comprehensible in a general way. A drawing of a dog looks like a dog. The fur looks like fur. And everyone is so impressed with meeting this low bar because it's hard to do for artists.

But, once you get past that low level it all falls apart. It doesn't have any reason to exist except to exhibit stolen technical competence.

[cyborgartalchemist2]

I am so tired of blocking people who use AI to create a fascimile of media. They're like those scam calls of "your extended warranty..." How dare you pop up on my dashboard with these abominations and call them art...

It's about as sad and disturbing as Frankenstein taking dead body parts, stitching them together, and pronouncing himself a creator of life. No. WRONG. That's necromancy! You didn't create anything! You took bits and pieces from the dead, fused them into a new model and then used a shit ton of electricity to wake it up. It's a monster because it was not born naturally. And making it an adult at birth skips every crucial experience that comes with growing up.

AI is no different! Some dudebro took the work of a bunch of artists, told a program to catalogue and blend, and hit generate. What you get is an image that looks like art, but that uncanny valley feeling is present when you look at it. Reminding you it's a haphazard almagamation of someone elses's work put together and forced into existence.

I really need tha AI users to quite pretending AI vs real artwork is in any way similar to baking a cake from scratch vs using a boxed mix. No. In terms of art. From scratch is akin to traditionally made art while the box mix might be digital art. The cake is still a cake, one just comes with less steps and is faster/easier/more accessible for some. Neither is 'less or more' cake than the other. And where does AI generatiom fit into this metaphor? It's like someone going around a room full of cakes, cutting a small piece from each cake, then gluing them together into a vaguely cake shaped thing. But they would still say, oh yeah I made this cake myself! And it's literally just made up of a dozen slices from the cakes everyone else already made.

It's gross.

It isn't art.

Stop pretending it is. Please.

[leo-a-nb]

I cannot talk about AI and artists without thinking of that south park meme "THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!" making me unable to take something I'm really passionate about seriously

[kiwikiwii]

Very Big and Very Long AI rant.

After the recent OpenAI stuff I'm gonna be here to share my two cents about the whole very realistic AI stuff, from the perspective of a very anxious and very art oriented person who loves techy stuff.

I very much would understand if this isn't your cup of tea so it's all undercut, thank you for your time anyways <3

Now. Onto the AI stuff.

Recently OpenAI has put out some new technology that's showing off some very nearly realistic videos and they're both creepy and very uncanny. About 2 or 3 years ago, the concerns about AI was already rising with deep fakes and the such and is going to start being a lot worse if this technology isn't properly regulated. This is what is prompting my very long and apparently, 927 word rant.

Going to put this in a few parts so it'll be easier to digest I hope.

About the tech.

We are at a point where the lines of AI generated content and real life are starting to blur. It's to a point where a sentence or a prompt could create scenes that look realistic enough that most people wouldn't even suspect that it's AI.

It is such a powerful and interesting technology that's slowly growing out of control. The people who are supposed to regulate the content and lawmakers has no idea what the fuck is going on and how the content is made in the first place, how are they supposed to make a change when they don't even understand what they're supposed to be tackling. The lack of understanding of how AI functions, how it comes to be, where the data was even gotten from in the first place and how it will impact society as a whole will truly be how we'll lose control of it someday. I'm not saying any of this because I want to be a 'hinderance to the future of technology', I'm saying this because the later we try to do something about it, the harder it is to do anything that is useful and effective for safeguarding artists, creators and everyone else who's using the internet. Not to mention the amount of frauds or scams that will skyrocket, children's safety on the internet being compromised, YOUR safety on the internet being compromised, people faking inappropriate images, videos and more will be a nightmare to deal with.

About art.

Many corporate companies unfortunately don't give a fuck about how the art is made and whether it's good or not but how fast it can be made and how much money can be made off of it. In their eyes, the trade off between quantity and quality is worth it. And that to me is extremely frustrating because where the art comes from should also be a part of the story when talking about art. Who the person who made it was like, how they developed a certain style and so on should be cared about and should be appreciated just like the art piece that was created. It shouldn't just be treated as another piece of thing to be fed to the scanner to be spat out as something else.

About creating.

Art is intrinsically a very human thing. People who make the argument "it's letting more people experience how it's like to create art" doesn't understand what it's like to create art. The entire idea of art is the learning, developing and polishing of the skills that you yourself develop. Taking away the steps that it took to get there in the first place diminishes the point of wanting to make art in the first place. It's degrading the time, energy and effort of the people who've already put effort into creating said art to be put out as a cheap and gross mimic of what it came from.

More emotional stuff that doesn't fit in any of the spaces above.

I saw someone use the word 'amalgamation' to describe what AI is today and that about wraps it all up. It's an amalgamation of dots and data skinned off of what there was and chained together to create an image, a video, an audio sample and more without a shred of humanity, love or emotion put into it.

I barely go on twitter nowadays, when I so, I see people sing high praises about the "the amazing advances of AI" and downplay the part of artists that were stolen for to create the technology they love so much in the first place. This whole ordeal makes me sick. It's depressing to see companies laying people off because they're seen as useless or worse than AI. It's disgusting to see the amount of talented people out there stolen from so that people could churn out heartless work at a faster pace to replace you. It's not a stepping stone for humanity, we're stepping over the ledge blindfolded.

I will never stop creating. It's what makes up a big part of me and will continue to be even if AI starts crumbling humanity to ash. One thing they can never take from us is creativity.

To the people who read this far, thank you. Thank you for spending your time to read over my word vomit that has been cooking in my head for the longest time.

To the artist that are still reading this. Remember you are irreplaceable. Without your art, this technology wouldn't have been here in the first place. Your art is invaluable. Never stop creating. Never give up, never give in.

Have a bear <3

[moonwatcher2005]

People who use ai to create "art" are talentless and passionless.

If you don't have the time or skills to learn a craft just say so.

Everyone loves to shit on Artist and how it doesn't make money but still goes on to watch movies listen to music and play video games as if there isn't an artist behind the very creation of the thing we consume. Stop trying to pretend as if artists aren't important. Stop trying to pretend as if their craft is useless when you go and use ai.

You want the glory and attention of it without actually doing anything to deserve it.