#Anti BatCat

[beautyconsumer]

why when having the batfam playing as a nuclear family they use batcat when Talia is right there?

and this is not, by any means, hate towards Selina's character. On the contrary, having Selina play a mom in a nuclear family feels against her character when Talia was literally made to be Batman's love interest, regardless of how she has been written in Morrison's run, (which was retconned)

[littlefankingdom]

"Selina is the batkids' mom."

Selina CANONICALLY wants Bruce to run away with her from Gotham, abandoning his family's legacy (making Gotham better), his mission (fighting crimes + helping people) and his family. She knows it will never happens, because Bruce will not do that, but that's still what she wants. She does not want to play mom with the batfam.

WFA is lying to you.

Let the woman be childfree and live her childfree's life in peace. She is a mother to cats (ANIMALS, NOT HUMANS WEARING CAT EARS), and cats only.

[redwiccanrobin]

So, I don’t have Twitter and I haven’t for a very long time at this point. But, I heard through the grapevine that some Bat/Cat shippers were shit talking Ram V over there because he… doesn’t hate Talia.

I don’t want to hate on Bat/Cat shippers or whatever, at the end of the day I’m fine with the ship. But why is it that whenever Talia gets written in a slightly positive way, they take it as an attack on Selina? Do you know how many comics I’ve read where Selina gets treated fairly? I never act like it’s an attack on Talia unless the writer is outright villainizing Talia to prop up Selina (ex; Tom King).

Bat/Cat consistently wins in both comics and adaptations. It’s not going to set fire to Selina as a character if we get some Brutalia.

I don’t hate Selina by any stretch of the imagination. But I’m tired of Talia being hated on by writers and fandom for her.

[vicontheinternet]

It will never sit right with me the way some of yall treat Talia vs Selena and Barbra vs Kory with Bruce and Dick respectfully in y’all’s fanfic it’s turned me off from those two ships almost completely

[sad-outsider]

I like ships with interesting dynamics, where both characters influence each other, teach each other something and simply complement each other (Darklina, Wonderbat). I may not like shipp for several reasons, such as it being incredibly toxic (Brutalia) or boring (Superwonder). Sometimes both (Batcat). But there are ships that I hate fiercely - those that lack the main thing that, in my humble opinion, is needed to build a relationship (any relationship, not just romantic) - acceptance. I believe that if a person cannot accept you for who you are, then you should do yourself a favor and tell that person to go to hell. It cannot be a choice of “should I be myself” or “should I be with someone”. You can’t build a relationship (any kind) on the foundation of denying your true self (yes, I’m talking about you, Mal, go to hell).

[violet-2084-turkish-warrior]

Batman deserves better than a selfish BDSM-loving thief.

Catwoman can go drink milk or can lick someone else's 'precious' jewelry somewhere else...

I'm not a Talia and Brutalia stan either and imo she and their relationship as toxic as BatCat and Selina Kyle,but i find her and Batman's relationship and conflicts more interesting.

And if the rape incident between them hadn't happened (It's said to be retconned but still), if Talia hadn't been portrayed as a psychopathic killer and if she hadn't been blindly devoted to her father, I actually admit that Batman and Talia's relationship actually would be better, more beautiful and interesting.

Also, Batman urgently needs to stop bootlicking Catwoman and Joker.

[spooky-donut-ghost-house]

Just saying Selina and Talia deserve better than Br*ce

[gritsandbrits]

Hello! I just saw your anti-BatCat posts and as someone who hates and despises Catwoman and her relationship with Batman to death, hats off to you.. I would also like to say that I hope Matt Reeves doesn't ruin the Second Batman movie with this ridiculous relationship.

I never cared about this ship at ALL and i get so tired of people acting like selina is Bruce's one true love just because both like to play dress up, it just results in unfair favoritism/OOC and selina wont stop being a criminal even for love, let's be real. It doesn't even fit with the theming Like when you look at the other Trinity ships you have lois who is a reporter and steve trevor who is a soldier/agent, both are heroes in their own way and add normalcy to their respective love interests. Batman needs someone like that

[batfsm]

Speaking as someone who likes both Talia and Selina -

Your post about Selina is, frankly, a pile of bullshit, and I'd be fine with that (I've got no problem with someone not liking a character I do like), except you put it in the Selina Kyle tag. Someone could just as easily make a similar bad argument tearing down Talia, and I'm guessing you wouldn't be happy about seeing that in her tag. People don't repeat the "don't tag your hate" line as often these days but it's still general courtesy for a reason.

Also, that anon had a point, despite you ridiculing them for it. When you say that a female character who goes back to the earliest days of the franchise and has a rich and complex history "only exists to provide a love interest" and is "basically just a fuckbuddy"... well, you might not actually be a misogynist but you sure sound like one. The only difference between your post and something from an early 2000s dudebro forum thread is the absence of the word "whore". And despite you saying afterwards that "Bruce is a fuckbuddy too!" you never reduced him to just that, nor did you say Bruce is a meaningless and unimportant character because he's "just a fuckbuddy."

(Also, a similar argument could be made in regards to Talia. She was literally created to be a love interest for Bruce, and I have seen people reduce her - incorrectly - to "just Batman's babymama". It's a shit argument, but your reducing Selina to "just a fuckbuddy" is pretty much on the same level.)

I'm not trying to change your mind about Selina - if you don't like her, then that's your call - but I am trying to point out how you were being kind of an asshole.

I just saw this so I apologize for the lateness.

What's wrong with putting it in the damn tag? I'll go back and put anti Selina in it if it annoys you that much but I tag everything or at least try to. (I don't think I need to.)

If someone made an argument on Talia, which they have, I either read it and think about it or I scroll on past. Or I do both, read and scroll by. It's not that hard.

Christ, so because I made an opinion, and called her a fuck buddy I'm still a misogynistic? For Ra's sake! I never reduced Selina to that only.

I literally said this:

is that if you consider Selina a member of the family for basically being a ‘fuck buddy’, which I have read comics and yes, I’m not up to date but still, she is basically there to annoy Bruce and give him a partner other than his kids (from what I have read) and give him a love life, which he doesn’t need one,

Which I am not up to date with the comics but she was there basically to annoy Bruce and give him a love interest. Another one.

Selina's around to give Bruce a love interest, which he doesn't need. I've said it before and I'll say it again, they are over done.

I like Selina. I don't like her and Bruce together. Like Dick/Babs. I like those two by themselves but not together anymore.

Give me the characters by themselves and I'll be happy to read about them. Don't make try to just make them reduced to being 'fuckbuddies' to each other. It turns people off.

I don't think I was being an asshole by stating my opinion but I guess people are to easily hurt these days.

[introspectivememories]

fic: selina kyle/bruce wayne

me:

[strangebedfellows]

i’ve started playing batman telltale again and the scene selina and bruce recognize each other is SO STUPID

i mean let’s say bruce doesn’t know how to put on concealer but why doesn’t selina just cover the scars and risk her identity ITS NOT THAT HARD

also she’s so annoying the whole game. i rejected her everytime but she’s still pushing, hitting on me and acting like i didn’t treat her like shit all the time. plus she’s with harvey and she KNOWS that he is bruce’s best friend

[mangasstuffcomics]

Batcat shippers when Talia stands next to bruce for 5 seconds :

[redwiccanrobin]

I’ve been called a rape apologist and told that I should have terrible things happen to me because I like Talia. So, yeah, I don’t want to hear from Bat/Cat shippers about how “unfair” it is when Brutalia gets a spotlight on it.

[punkeropercyjackson]

DC fans always say male Batfam members have a thing for male kryptonians because of Superbat and Timkon and i agree 100%,so real so true,but i raise you,this is their taste in women:

The Batboys love them some black queens🤲🏼Even Damian would've gotten in on it if it weren't for the N52 aka the racialized misogyny reboot

[corpsedisturbed]

gotta love (sarcasm) the way batcat/bruce/selina stans are so fucking racist towards talia and damian. they really are writing fanfics about selina being damian's mom or even his bio mom. fuck, even dc has done that

i really can't deal with this anymore. the amount of bad parent talia al ghul + good parent selina kyle + good parent bruce wayne fanfics is fucking insane

those "selina teaches damian love for cats/animals" go in par with those "dick teaches damian love for animals". you mean... damian AL GHUL wayne? the boy raised by talia and ra's? riiiight. ra's al ghul whole mission is about preserving nature even if it means killing humans. but ig that reading comics is too much to expect from the crowd that woobifies tim drake, makes jason todd the best brother ever and favorite of the family, makes dick grayson into a manwhore, completely forget about steph cass and duke (and when they do remember is mischaracterized, ableist and racist), either completely demonizes or ignores bruce's bad behaviors, makes damian into an uncivilized stabby beast and still insists talia al ghul is a rapist. honestly fuck yall.

[violet-2084-turkish-warrior]

I'm in love with Robert Pattinson's Batman and Bruce Wayne,ngl. The movie was quite slow paced but I loved and enjoyed it regardless. I loved that Batman wasn't treated like a god and he looked more humane.I hope the second movie will be as great as the first movie. I also sincerely hope that the second movie isn't ruined by the BatCat bullshit and they feature more unused villains (I have nothing against the late Heath Ledger and Barry Keoghan, but they need to retire the Joker now, as well as the BatCat bullshit ,both of them were overused and different things should be included now,imo.)