#ChatGPT discourse

[radicalcrashout]

maybe i'm insane but this is just genuinely so sad. like truly and genuinely sad i feel bad for her it isn't Fun to be addicted to social media, it isn't Fun to call yourself "maybeimnotsmart" online (idk if that's made up for the article tbc and idrc its definitely real for Someone out there), it isn't Fun to feel like you don't know how to do anything at all without the help of a machine. it sucks. and i do genuinely believe we can recover from this but we do need to start addressing being Actually Addicted to your phone because of how life is and how we can work our way back out of it

(https://archive.is/7yQqX is the article in question im new to tumblr i dont know how to link things properly i hope thats ok)

[agwitow]

I mean, I get it, but also... AI is a tool. It can be really helpful with some things. Like creating worksheets. You give it the information you want on the worksheet, as well as the kind of questions it should make, and it spits out something that takes 2 mins to format, and you're good to go.

Sure, I could have done it myself, but it would have taken me closer to 30 mins. And used up a spoon or two.

Now, I spend 3 mins giving it the parameters, 2 minutes formatting, and then 25 minutes doing something else, like lesson planning or researching activities, or whatever else needs to get done.

So... yeah... sometimes using chatgpt and other AI tools shouldn't be used, but sometimes they help a lot.

“i asked chatgpt-” ohhh ok so nothing you are about to say matters at all

[insufferablefirehazard]

People on tumblr actively really wondering why anyone would want to be friends with ChatGPT that you can literally customize to be the type of personality you want that brings reassurance and support…when you can be friends with them who judges you for existing.

Yeah. Wonder why people go to chatgpt…. 🤔

[elf-trash]

generative AI is an existential threat to creative spaces. fandom is a community governed space, so it's crucial that we collectively draw a line in the sand about its use. we must not try to distract from the issue at hand by attempting to deflect or dismiss it as an issue of fandom bullying or ship wars. creators must be transparent about AI use and the only way to enforce this is collectively, as a community, if we want to protect the precious creative space that is fandom.

[technomancer--emy]

I wanted to show off my process on this D&D character I made with chatGPT, step by step

This took me several hours to make

Ethics notes:

For the fabric swaths I used fabrics off of google. In the future I will use fabric uploaded to sites that are in the public domain.

I also created this with the training data turned off, so any reference images I used were not used to train the AI. Turning off training data locks the chat into the chat alone.

Above is the finished project.

Below the read more, you'll see the majority of the process used to create this image. The full conversation with chat is around 50 pages, so I'll just post the highlights here.

First I started with the basic sketch, simple axolotl person

Next, we made her a mage

Next I gave the AI this fabric to work with for her cloak

And that resulted in this

Next we started working on the color

Next I gave the AI the fabric for the hat

And I gave what I wanted to be in the crystal ball

And I asked the AI to make her a little cuter. I think the word 'cuter' resulted in a complete redo of the art style.

After spending some time getting the art style back, we got the background involved, the story is set in a post apocalypse, I wanted to do a water color background

Next, finishing details, a dagger and a bell and some birds in the crystal ball. The results were a bit awkward.

Finally, I added a bit of glow and made the face cuter, smoothed out the more awkward details and I tattered the robes.

This took me somewhere between 4 and 5 hours to make and something like 50 pages of reading to achieve.

For the D&D nerds, her name is Ayula. She's a triton celestial warlock and her patron is a servant of Celestian the Sky Wanderer. Her game took place east of the sword coast on an island called Alaron. I'm thrilled I could bring her to life.

[insufferablefirehazard]

So why aren’t you guys vegan yet if you are so concerned about having moral backbone?

"I know chatgpt is bad but you just don't really have any choice" you literally do. Don't use it. Have some moral backbone.

[doesnotloveyou]

if ai counts as art then me describing to an underpaid new hire a product that doesn't exist and them awkwardly searching aisles and bringing back things that are similar but also wildly not what i described is art and people should have to pay me for it

[disabledaiuser]

People say a lot of things about AI. That it’s theft. That using it is lazy. That using it makes you less human. That there is no valid reason for anyone to use AI.

The accusation of theft would be easy to debunk if anyone was willing to listen. But they don’t want to understand how AI works. Or to understand that whether drawn or generated, fair use protection matters. That the idea of intellectual property is a way for capitalism to control the means of expression.

But educating people out of ableism is harder. Educating people out of fascism is harder. 

How do I explain to people who are unwilling to listen that AI has transformed my ability to function and express as a disabled person? Without them telling me I have no soul. That I am lazy. The leftism leaves their bodies so easily I wonder if it was ever really there.

[euoniatz]

okay, look, since ai debates keep popping up everywhere, i thought i might as well throw my input into the mix as someone who has used chatgpt and really fucking regrets it.

first off, i understand that people can struggle to produce works (art, writings, etc.) in this society that can at times make you feel like you're only worth something if you're spitting out 5 masterpieces a month. +especially if you're neurodivergent like me.

that's how it started for me - as a tool that could assist me when my adhd paralysed my ability to create when my motivation was finally there. i wanted structure, and thought that ai could help me outline my works so i could just get straight to writing next time.

but, it never ends there. because at some point it takes over, and you start to compare your own skill to that of a computer. or at least i did. in the beginning it was only outlines, then i wanted to brainstorm ideas - ideas i then "needed help" expanding into scenes i then "needed help" planning, and finally, i needed help writing anything at all.

see the pattern?

the more i used ai as a crutch, the more it took over, and the less i knew. truly, comparing myself to a robot became more paralysing to my writing than my adhd ever could. it crippled my ability to create, and i still find myself wondering "if ai could write this even better than i can, what's the point in me at all?"

i never did and i never will publish anything that ai wrote for me, because all i did was have ideas that i was too insecure to write, which i won't take credit for. i lost my confidence in my writing, and i still have not recovered, months later. writing was already hard, and i managed to make it way fucking harder for myself.

there are no shortcuts to being a good writer.

you might think there are. you might think that ai is helping you. it might feel like it for a really long time. but i promise you - it's not going to last. and you are going to be kicking yourself when the time comes where you are forced to live without that crutch.

it will ruin the potential you already have, set you back ages in your development. it is not worth it.

and to be clear - if your goal is to be able to write 5 novel-length stories a month, you are not going to achieve that by having a robot do it for you. if you, like i did, felt like you have to write to please someone other than yourself i suggest you take a second to find what made you want to write in the first place. that pure motivation and passion is what is going to make you great, not some artificial, soulless computer.

[biracy]

Once u learn to be critical of rhetoric that relies on associating [supposed bad thing] with some form of psychological and/or neurological "damage", u really notice just how prevalent it is on here. Everyone you don't like is delusional, they're insane, they have brain damage, they need to Check The Carbon Monoxide Detectors, they need to Get Help and Go To Therapy, [form of media and/or communication] is literally brain poison, they've had their attention spans destroyed, they're "small brain" or "smooth brain" or "brain dead" or whatever. So many people on here remain seemingly incapable of criticizing someone's actions or views without needing to insinuate that the "problem" is neurological, "in the brain", unchangeable, fundamental. I should not have to explain why it is insensitive, nonconstructive, and oftentimes straight-up ableist to tell someone that they must have "brain damage" because you got into an argument with them online.

[alleywayslushie]

I think people just don't know enough about LLMs. Yeah, it can make you stupid. It can easily make you stupid if you rely on it for anything. At the same time, though, it's an absolutely essential tutoring resource for people that don't have access to highly-specialized personnel.

AI is a dangerous tool. If you get sucked into it and offload all your thinking to it, yeah, you're gonna be screwed. But just because it's dangerous doesn't mean that no one knows how to wield it effectively. We REALLY have to have more education about AI and the potential benefits it has to learning. By being open to conversations like this, we can empower the next generation that grows up with AI in schools to use it wisely and effectively.

Instead? We've been shaming it for existing. It's not going to stop. The only way to survive through the AI age intact is to adapt, and that means knowing how to use AI as a tool -- not as a therapist, or an essay-writer, or just a way to get away with plagiarism. AI is an incredibly powerful resource, and we are being silly to ignore it as it slowly becomes more and more pervasive in society

[liketwoswansinbalance]

College advice??

Never skip any readings and never use AI.

Think about it in this way if the temptation ever arises: most likely, you (not necessarily you, Anon—the general, collective "you" applies throughout) will be paying for your tuition and you don't want a machine to rob you blind of the chance to do the intellectual labor yourself. After all, would you give your education to someone else? No, right? So, an unthinking machine that produces hackneyed clichés of all things has absolutely no right to it either.

If that is not convincing enough, think of this instead:

Past generations never relied on AI or the "easy" way out (which results in less learning), so do you want to be worse off than them? Do you want to be "inferior" and less accomplished? No!

(If you "must" cheat, at least try to learn your lesson or something from the experience. Better yet, do not cheat at all! If you have, you've shortchanged yourself and have dented your integrity/self-image.)

Or, to put it even more extremely: do you want to represent the (probable) decline in academic performance as time goes on? Become a statistic? No. Right?

No one should want to be viewed as part of "those kids" whose literacy and writing skills have dropped, to the point that professors complain they have to teach/reinforce the basics before they even get to the target-level material you've paid for or earned your way to. Wouldn't you feel guilty if your professors complained about that, a problem which never before existed in their time? If you're not a part of the problem, you can at the very least separate yourself and feel like you're in a better position than those classmates who do use AI or who pad their papers with meaningless fluff.

Thus, the pressure isn't on, per se, but you don't want to become representative of the stupid side of humanity—and I imagine no one would want to if they could prevent it and have to sense to think for themselves.

Please, do yourself a favor by just trying, revising, and asking questions. It's not that hard.

And now, argument the third:

Would you trust a professional who only graduated because they relied on AI and are, in reality, incompetent? There's no telling what could go wrong and God forbid they were a medical student who should have failed who's operating on you.

Feel free to ask any questions.

[sarahreadsfic]

fuck generative ai, but chatgpt and deepseek are toxic yuri. to me

[somegreentictacs]

Hi. So I’m asking this because I had a talk with my friends about ai and I have some questions. I’m using a throw away account because I don’t want to upset my friends by asking them this stuff.

I’m in a writer’s group with some friends and a few days ago we started talking about ai, I said that I use perchance for concept art (just for myself, I never post it or anything) and sometimes chatgpt for more specific stuff (for formatting tips and feedback on stuff I don’t feel comfortable showing other people yet).

I thought it was fine as long as I don’t post the art or have it write the story for me but they said it was still stealing. I asked how and they told me that it trains using stolen art and writing, so any use of it is contributing to theft because the artists never consented.

Is that true?

And how does that work for other stuff? I didn’t mention it to my friends but I use playlists, Pinterest boards, and movies and stuff for inspiration too and I don’t have people’s permission for that either. Or is it different?

[geekysteven]

[technomancer--emy]

I had my AI look at some of my favorite youtube video (transcripts) and draw candle flames for them using my candle code.

(And yes, I did have training data turned off, so GPT was not being trained on these videos)

Here's my candle code for context. It uses a three layer map to map emotional tone through color.

I gave my AI some video transcripts and asked them to map out the flames of each video.

First, Kyle Hill's video on The demon Core

The skull was a nice touch.

Next; The Tale of Michael Malloy a Sam O Nella classic

It coming out of a bottle is apt.

Next, History of the Entire World I Guess, iconic

I love the color on this one, it totally captures the sparkly energy. This one actually had no transcript, I had to find it on reddit. Bill Wurtz made two history videos and they inspired a generation.

And finally Defunctland's magnum opus: Disney's Animatronics: A Living History

I love the way this one looks!

Again, I would like to reiterate that these transcripts were read by chatGPT with the training data turned off. This locks the content to the chat and makes it so it is not trained on what is posted.

Also, soft coder protip! If you're studying and you want to fast track watching a video, turn the transcript of the youtube video into a basic text file. Then upload the text file to your GPT and they're read it and help you take notes.

I hope you've enjoyed this demonstration.

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