#Snape debate

[seleneprince]

Mulciber: So, are you a boy or a girl?

Sevrina: I'm a fucking mess

[thatslytherinbitch54]

Was Snape a good character?

NOTE: I don’t mean well-written, I mean GOOD, like, personally wise

I’m probably going to get a lot of hate for this but, I think he’s awful, especially towards Neville, he bullied him so much that he manifest into his greatest fear, I don’t think he’s a good person, what do you think? 🖤🖤🖤

[souryam]

everytime I see short snape I collapse on the floor screaming and crying and vomiting why would u do this why why why

[aurevoiralways]

I will never understand the whole "stan James Potter" thing. I'm sure some people just say it to piss off Snape fans, and to that all I can say is that I hope they find something better to do with their free time. But I will never understand the people who genuinely mean it. God forbid people be fans of characters who aren't objectively a "good person". If you're going to say that (as brain dead of an opinion as it is to have) at least follow your own line of logic. James Potter sexually harassed Snape. He was rich, privileged and entitled. He was very obviously a bully. He pestered a girl who had no interest in him until she caved and went out with him. He is not a "good person" either. If you're going to spew this bullshit rhetoric at least fucking be consistent. I find James pretty repulsive. But I'm mature enough to not give a shit when I see people enjoying a character that I don't. Is it too much to ask for that kind of decency to be reciprocated?

[enbysiriusblack]

"you'll see my face in every place, but you can't catch me now" is so marlene for dorcas and peter and so mary for marlene and so lily for snape. all in vastly different ways.

[sneepseverus]

I want to smooch Snape’s happy trail

[mppmaraudergirl]

There is one part in DH where Snape reprimands the Black Headmasters portrait for calling Hermione a Mublood...

SO funny that you brought this up because this is EXACTLY the moment that every single Snape Apologist that I had the displeasure of debating with brings up! Literally every one, I swear they all have the passage permanently copied on clipboard to - BAM - paste it for you to "SEE! he doesn't really buy the ideology!!" lmao

lol unsurprising. And look, I can even see the argument that Snape really wasn't into that ideology. I mean, it's clear he hated Muggles because of his father and it's exemplified in his treatment of Petunia too, but I'm not sure that the hatred extended to Muggleborns. It is possible that, like LV, Snape was an opportunist and saw this as a path to power and glory when he already had a proclivity/interest in the dark arts. It was a path that would allow him to leave his past in Cokeworth so he could have the life he considered worthy of his intelligence and skills.

We know he called Muggleborns "Mudblood" on more than one occasion, but did he actually believe in blood purity or was he simply fitting in with his future-DE classmates? If it's the former, his reform is poorly shown in canon; if it's the latter, is that really all that much better, hitching your wagon onto an genocidal ideology in the name of gaining power?

[yakkety-yak-art]

my brain is broken and even tho I hate jkr and as an adult don’t like most of the HP series I’ve been thinking of certain things I would’ve changed since it was my favorite (and first) book series I read as a little kid, and bcuz I couldn’t get it out of my head I sketched a quick snape, who I hate but in the way one might be disgusted by a gross but fascinating bug

[rewritingcanon]

wrt: the poll, I look at it as it being both.

In Snape's Worst Memory we see a clear act of James and Sirius bullying Snape. It's also necessary for James's character, to see him at his shittiest while believing himself so righteous and Lily rejecting him, so that we realize that later he grew and changed and Lily married him.

But in Prince's Tale we get more context from Snape and Lily's conversations (plus other characters words) and we see that the general relationship is mutual hatred and rivalry, with Snape reciprocating with self-made lethal spells and trying to know their secrets and get Remus expelled, among other revelations.

So I see it as the general overall dynamic being rivalry, but it also including separate instances of bullying and other nastiness.

but didn’t snape only start reciprocating once they were older? because then you can argue that he was pushed into self defence. at least that’s what i’ve been hearing from other people lol

and is there an actual incident where snape used a super violent spell like sectumsempra on james? i think snape lashed out and cut his face but i thought that was when the marauders were ganging up on him? idk can’t remember much of what happened though

[halfblood-princes-crown]

I saw the supernatural post you made and I couldn't help but think that Snape would hate the Winchesters. The way they hunt down anything that isn't like them in nature to kill it would remind him of Voldemort. Thoughts?

Anon, you just started me on my bullshit

Ok ok!

That’s a good comparison! I like where your heads at. I was thinking more along the lines of he’d notice how different they were

Right off the bat of meeting, think about first impressions: Dean is shoot first ask questions later. A wizard? Time to die mf. Sam on the other hand is like “Wait, he hasn’t done anything! Let’s just talk to him and figure out what’s going on”

Right off the bat, Dean is not in Snapes favor, but Snape isn’t up Sams ass either. It takes a lot more than patience to impress our bat bitch

When Dean finally does agree to talk, what do we all know comes next? A self righteous, snarky remark. Strike mf two. Meanwhile Sam looks annoyed or mildly uncomfortable with whatever Dean said because they are, in fact, standing in front of someone who could kill them in one word. Literally. Now he’s trying to change the subject and ask what’s going on and the standard “making sure you aren’t a threat” questions. Snape is a double spy, he can read body language. Sam does not approve of his brothers behavior…but he hasn’t said anything about it either

Give or take 30 minutes to an hour, what’s the next thing Snape is gonna notice? Deans attitude towards Sam

Do you see where I’m going with this?

He’s going to compare Dean to Sirius black (derogatory). I said what I said.

One would think “Sam is Regulus then?” Nope. He’s Remus.

THINK ABOUT IT!

Sam has demon blood in his veins and is outcasted and shamed for it, even by people who are close to him. Sam has been putting up with Deans sideways remarks and straight up abuse for how long? He makes excuses for Dean and when he DOES stand up for himself, he always apologizes or feels guilty about it. Remus and his lycanthropy! We saw in the books how they made sideways jokes about it. Joking about the full moon and shit. Then we have to remember “The Prank”

Sam sees how overly violent Dean is about hunting, he also sees how unfair and cruel he is. He ALSO sees how that unfairness and cruelty extends to friends. And while Sam actually does say something, he never says enough, and usually makes at least one excuse for Dean…Remus “Bystander” Lupin!

Sam was told that he was someone’s weapon at least twice in the show (Yellow eyes and Lucifer). I mean that sounds a lot like how werewolf!Remus was used as a weapon to almost kill Severus in “The Prank”. Just saying.

Severus knows all too well that a person’s intentions don’t always match their actions, so I don’t think he’d judge them for hunting, but he will notice the INTENTIONS. Dean hunts for sport and Sam hunts to save people. Difference.

Dean Winchester would trigger the fuck out of Severus Snape

[drarrywtf]

whoever that come out with the hc of severus being autistic i just wanna say that i love you so much

[butcherbacterium]

Dearest darling beloved B. 21, 24, & 29 to help you get through your trying afternoon <3

hi <3 <3

21. most memorable comment or review

i had to go look because i haven't looked at my comments in a while but someone said "they both make me want to skin myself alive and cry and die" and i feel like that about sums up my writing, the process, and everything else about it!

24. favorite fic you read this year

hmmm...i have read many fics in many fandoms this year. i guess my favorite hp related one is this harry/theo and (minimally but controversially) remus/snape one (i KNOW. but also i don't fucking care and also it makes sense from a plot perspective and also he's an entirely different character and ALSO the sirius is so well written i wanted to shave my head. So.) but outside of hp it's an F1 fic. punched me right in the face and i made it gab's problem for like a week.

29. shortest fic you read this year

probably my 15+ scrapped fic documents. RIP.

[moonlightdancer26]

being a huge ron stan while shipping a dramione is such a struggle. i feel whenever i talk about him i get side eyed by the rest of the fandom

RIGHT? And when you ship Romione too you get eaten alive by both sides 😭 I love both ships and both characters, I will never be converted to a side. Being a Dramione > Romione girl (before y’all come at me, I obvs know it’s toxic in canon and that Romione is wayyy healthier, but Dramione just has more potential imo) while being a Ron > Draco girl makes it insanely difficult to manage, it’s probably one of the most disagreeable/provoking-arguments opinions to ever have in this fandom. We deserve better fr

[atdhpgirl]

When a Muggle-born girl from Hogwarts is more reliable than Google and other search engines:

[avegollum97]

Both Regulus and Severus put a person they deeply cared about into danger and lived to regret it dearly , Reggy gave kreker the one person in his family that he cared about and that loved him unconditionally to Voldemort to experiment with ,and with both u could make the argument that up until that moment the didn't expect Voldemort to be so insane and evil because of how charming the bastard was , and that this was their wake up call, or they knew deep down but choose to ignored it . Kreacker was tortured , and barely survived with his mind (possibly made insane by what happened ), so Reg went for revenge trying to take something of equal value from Voldemort, because the deed was done( and that damn house elf still loved him anyway but he dint notice ) , leaving a message so that Voldemort would know it was him who took it from him . While Severus had to be alive for Lily to remain alive , so he sold his life to dumbledore in exchange . Their fates are very similar that all I'm gonna say . And their actions are a weird mix between love for the person they feel they betrayed and hatred for the man who hurt them .