asbestos-11 · 2 years ago
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the matat ft. sans mpreg and kurama
trans:
"you're gay!" arrow points to the gay
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our-demian-experience · 7 months ago
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Hey there! I have a question!
So! My partner (and bestie) is demirose (doesn't label himself personally but he also doesn't mind being called that). As a gift, I got him a white aro ring and a black ace ring. He told me that he loved the rings but he couldn't wear them. I asked him why. He said, and I quote, "I'm neither aromantic nor asexual. By wearing this, I'd be invading."
Onto my question. Are the black and white rings for anyone on the a-spec or just for people who are 100% aromantic and/or 100% asexual. I feel like demirose and grayrose people often get ignored within the aro/ace community or worse yet, they get alienated. I've seen so much gatekeeping recently that I just want to make my partner feel good about who he is. Nobody deserves to feel isolated, especially within their own community.
well I can't speak on the intentions of who started the black/white ring thing, I don't think it was intended to only be used by those who are exclusively ace or aro, nor does it exactly matter since the entire thing has been completely separated from the person/people who came up with it. they're for asexuals and aromantics, which in their definitions is little to none. people largely consider demisexuals and demiromantics under the ace/aro umbrellas, so by definition yes. people who are ace-spec and/or aro-spec are allowed to wear the rings
I'm demisexual and largely consider myself asexual, but not aromantic, since I experience romantic attraction more easily and frequently and have identified as asexual for some time beforehand. that is my personal experience that I use the ace flag and identify myself under asexual, but don't feel like aro its me, despite also being demiromantic. if he truly doesn't think of himself as under those labels and that wearing the rings wouldn't be accurate to him, then he doesn't have to. but he certainly is not invading if he does
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ihateliterature · 2 years ago
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I'm really sad. Let me tell you why I'm sad
So this whole debate is going on over on twt about wlw content and I see a lot of people giving their experiences with the wlw fandom and it's really disheartening. And from what I see the problem is not that the rest of the queer fandom is overwhelmingly mysoginistic or lesbophobic, it's that the wlw fandom is unbearable
No, really, there are so many people talking about how they've tried joining the wlw fandom but it was too toxic or they were afraid of doing it in the first place because they've seen people who had to deal with them. And the people saying this are not only gay men and transmascs, they are overwhelmingly other queer women
And I understand this, hell, I am one of those ppl afraid of the wlw fandom. That's because every time I've witnessed it they were harassing and dogpilling people for the most minor of things. I can still remember one particular occasion when the author of Percy Jackson tweeted that he sees Artemis as ace and qrts were full of people borderline threatening him and being aphobic until he backed down on it
And this is not the only time. I've seen people getting threats for headcanoning a character as bi or pan, shipped a character with a man or headcanoned a character as ace/aro. I still remember how it was in the SU fandom with Peridot
I wish it wasn't like this. I know for a fact there are nice and civil wlw fans, but a large number of people, myself included, can barely fucking find them behind all the assholes
The explanation, which I gathered from queer women active in the fandom or who used to be part of it, is that the wlw fandom is INFESTED with radfems top to bottom. Which created a hostile environment for EVERYONE including some queer women, especially bi women. All of it leading to a space dominated by radfem ideas, exclusionism and antis. And also to a very stifling creating environment, as many queer women with experience in the fandom I've seen talking about it have said that anything straying from wholesome is heavily policed
And I find it horrible, because so many queer women felt the need to distance themselves from a fandom that is FOR them, because of how toxic it is, depriving themselves of what should have been a wonderful fandom experience alongside other people that can understand and relate to them on that level. I hate it how radfems have infested every corner of the community, warping it and creating conflict. To a point where many of us get red flags when seeing someone with a lesbian pfp because of past experience. It should not be like this. I don't like doing it this, doubting my own family, but I feel like I have to, for my peace of mind at least. And yes, I mean family, because as hard as lesbian separatists tried to drive us away from each other, to make lesbians as insular as possible, to paint transmascs and bi women as traitors to womanhood, lesbians are still my family, just like any other queer out there, and it breaks my heart seeing them becoming the boogie man of online queer spaces and a shield for TERFs
Idk where I am going with this anymore it's just that. . . I'm sad, I wish it wasn't like this
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leucoratia · 2 years ago
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My take on Jojo characters’ sexuality (Part 2)
See part 1 here. I had to make a part 2 because I couln’t fit in all of my tags.
-From part 4 to 5 because I haven’t seen Stone Ocean and the rest yet. But there’s a lotta characters in part 4 and 5 so ey
Tw: mentions of sex, not proofred we die like men.
PART 4: DIAMOND IS UNBREAKABLE
Josule Higashikata: bisexual demiromantic
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Idk. Not really sure about that one so up to be debated. I feel josuke would fuck anyone but romance? Nah you gotta go 45-steps with this man. Takes slowburn to a whole other level.
Okuyasu Nijimura: pure bisexual
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Yea he’s bi. Gay for Josuke but bi still. He will za hando and za finger probably anyone. The one and only true bisexual. 
Gets no bitches tho sorry Okuyasu you deserved better but you have no game
Koichi, Kira and Yukako: extremely straight
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Like have you seen their vibes they’re straight as hell. As for Kira I raise: he literally simps for the Mona Lisa and collects female hands don’t tell me there’s repressed homosexuality here my man is so unhinged if he was gay he would make himself a realistic dildo collection by collecting mumified penises. Kira is STRAIGHT.
(Sorry David Bowie you deserved so much better you queer icon)
Kishibe Rohan: aromantic pansexual
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Rohan fucks SEVERELY. At least in theory because we know he got no game  he’s 10000% a virgin. Like. Every gender gets our man going in bed but he’s got 0 action bcs have you seen him he might be extremely hot but he’s so damn awkward. His vibes are all over the place. He would probably eat one of your toenails for “art and accuracy”. Hence no one wants to get within a 20-foot radius of Rohan Kishibe. I’d let him hit tho. Then he’ll finally know what sex is like.
Aromantic. Got no time for all that “romance” bs. Literally cringes watching romcoms and seeing couples in the street. People may think it’s because he’s jaleous (no game, remember?) but really he’s just grossed out.
PART 5: GOLDEN WIND
Giorno Giovana: aro-ace king
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Our King is declared ARO/ACE. Giorno knows what sex is but doesn’t fuck. He got more important things to deal with, like idk running the fucking italian mafia. His one true love is justice and equality makes him hard. He’s too pure for all of you wretched souls out there. He’d be happy to bromance you though.
Bruno Bucciarati: bi
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My sweet prince is also cursed with bisexuality but contrary to other bis such as Polnareff he FUCKS. His tongue game is too insane for him to get no bitches I’m sorry (when did this become a “who has game” tierlist-). Anyways yes Certified Freak Bruno likes everyone his heart and legs are open for all. I don’t feel like he would have a preference for a particular gender but feel free to argue with me in the comments. I wish I had more to write about my blorbo but. Well. No thoughts head empty rn.
Leone Abbacchio: omni
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Our man is a proud omnisexual/omniromantic! Plus the flag fits his aesthetic very well so slay king for having the sexuality that goes with your vibe. Honestly yes this label fits. He’s omni. He’s too dead inside to care about gender but keeps it in the back of his mind. 
Married to Bruno (canon doesn’t exist sorry) and will def gossip about other ppl with his husband.
Guido Mista: female-leaning bisexual
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Tbh Mista doesn’t seem to be the type of person to bother with labels. He just fucks. So here have bisexuality. He would be more into women because of his tendency to bromance every male he encouters but he wouldn’t pass up the opportunity to explore the matters of the flesh with other guys. Slay.
Panacotta Fugo: aro-ace
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Our favourite calm and collected guyTM is certified aroace! I have absolutely NO DOUBTS. HE IS AROACE. (sex-repulsed also bcs well trauma and he also legit thinks it’s a disgusting waste of time). May he and Giogio create the perfect aroace mafioso team. Cleanse Italy from all of the wretched and perverted souls like Diavolo and Bucciarati children, gooo.
Narancia Ghirga: polyamorous
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I have murdered my brain and soul trying to find a queer orientation for our soft bean Narancia and tbh only polyamorous seems to fit. He want to share the love yk. About his gender preferences? I gave up. I simply cannot concieve Narancia being in a relationship/having sex. No. Too young. Too pure. What do you mean he’s 17 hence older than Fugo/Giorno as well as only two years younger than me? Nope. He’s 12. I don’t give a shit. I will not think about Narancia’s private business ever. He’s just poly take it or leave it.
Diavolo/Doppio: pan
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Male Thot Enemy of the State Diavolo and Unhinged Pure Bean Doppio are both PAN! Difference being Diavolo fucks while Doppio gets fucked. Diavolo my blorbo is kind of Dio-like in his attraction. Because he’s a hot dilf he always gets what he wants. Doppio would be more reserved tbh.
Diavolo is secretly a huge sub tho. I rest my case the evidence is in the show.
Trish Una: Lesbian
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Bro it’s soooo obvious she’s literally gay as hell I have nothing more to say except that Trish likes GIRLS.
Risotto Nero and Melone: pan as well
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Many pansexuals out there and these two are going on the team. Melone in a unhinged way specifically. Risotto wouln’t necessarly label himself, he’d probably be down for everything. Also is there a freak-ass bitch flag? Because these two need it fr. Melone probably has a Christian Grey lookin ass sex dungeon for sure. Melone is a playful switch. Ris a soft switch who secretly likes to bottom. I rest my case once again.
Ghiaccio: gay
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Had to make a separate one for Ghiaccio because I cannot imagine this man being into women and generaly female-passing mfs. He’s soooo into men. Extremely homosexual.
I won’t be making headcanons for everyone in La Squadra because I simply do not give a fuck about most of them.
Loving how there is not a single heterosexual in Golden wind. Perfect. Truly the best Jojo part.
Part 3 of this post coming whenever I’ll get up to date on Stone Ocean/SBR/Jojolion Ig. Ask box open as always kids. Please send me headcanons or prompts I’m so fucking bored-
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lex-n-weegie · 2 years ago
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🏳️‍🌈Romantic and Queerplatonic/Squish F/O pride headcanons (plus neurodivergent HCs)🏳️‍🌈
Romo F/Os
Luigi: Bisexual, Non-binary and ghostgender (projection go brrr). Also autistic
Waluigi: Pansexual, also somewhere on the aroace spectrum but he hasn't found anything that fits him so that's just. There.
Filbo: Autistic, bisexual, and demiromanic. I'm correct and awesome
Toy Bonnie: Gender non-conforming as fuck. Bi as well and bigender. Boy, girl? Yes!
King DDD: Pansexual and demi aroace. Everyone is hot but also there's a buffet and that looks more enticing right now
Girlfriend: ADHD, Autistic, and bisexual because 1. Matches with BF and 2. I'm awesome
Papyrus: Demi aroace and autistic. He is sooo autistic and is somewhere on the aroace spectrum you can not convince me otherwise. Also pan and a demiboy.
Berdly: Trans (ftm) and bisexual. The ultimate gamer (also see a pattern here for the sexualities?)
Monty: Bisexual and Non-binary. He cares not for gender and I'll bite it and chew it up
King Dice: Bi as hell. You can't tell me that dice isn't a little fruity. He likes men and women, what do you think all the purple means?
QP/Squish f/os
Sunnydrop/Moondrop: They actually don't have any labels, and don't really want any! They don't have a specific gender, pronouns, for sexuality! They like who they like, and don't mind what anyone calls them! They're just Sun and Moon :) also 100% neurodivergent
Peridot: Aroace and autistic!!! She's so autistic!!! We're both autistic!!! Also lesbian
Orbulon: Also aroace + NB. Have you seen their human disguise? Also their colors can make up the QP flag that just proves my point
Marina: Oh so autistic. Also probably gay in some form (like bi or lesbian) but doesn't care for a label for it right now
Princess Peach: Pan and aromantic! Pan Peach has a nice ring to it, plus she gives off those vibes. She's also aro because that's cannon
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westiec · 3 years ago
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June 17: Chengxian 💜🖤💕
childhood friends to lovers/QPPs, ace Jiang Cheng, bi & aro Wei Wuxian, modern AU
(A/N: If you're wondering about a certain other someone, he will have a wonderful, full life of his own in Suzhou in this AU but is not in this story. 💙 There are some brief mentions of offscreen ace-antagonism, not by anyone we know.)
Read on ao3
Jiang Cheng had been Wei Ying's best friend in the whole world for his entire life.
Okay. Well, not quite his entire life, but certainly since Wei Ying’s parents moved to California when he was little little, which was about as far back as Wei Ying could remember anyway. Wei Ying’s baba and Jiang Cheng’s baba had grown up in Wuhan together and been best friends when they were kids, so naturally, when Wei Ying’s family moved into the same neighborhood as the Jiangs, it made perfect sense for Wei Ying and Jiang Cheng to become best friends too.
It was Jiang Cheng who had taught Wei Ying that he didn't have to be afraid of dogs, by introducing him to Princess, Jasmine, and Lil' Love. Lil' Love lived up to her name, coming and quietly sitting in all her fluffy glory on Wei Ying’s lap every time he went over to play.
It was also Jiang Cheng who Wei Ying got drunk with for the first time. They snuck booze from the cabinet where Wei Ying’s parents kept it and laughed at the faces each other made with every shot until they stopped tasting the harsh burn, and then laughing more just because.
(Wei Ying’s mom had not laughed, not at the time, when the two teens had been sick as anything the next morning, but instead made them a gloriously greasy late breakfast and gave them lots of advice about proper hydration.
Then she told Jiang Cheng’s mom and let her scold them.)
It was Jiang Cheng who came out first, their first semester in college, when he told Wei Ying he didn't think he wanted to have sex with anyone, ever, and asked if Wei Ying thought that meant no one would ever want to date him. Wei Ying hugged him tight and told him he didn't know about everyone out there, but he knew Jiang Cheng was the best guy in the world and would be an awesome boyfriend, and he'd fight anyone who said differently.
Jiang Cheng found a group on campus for third culture LBGT kids, and Wei Ying went with him, as a supportive ally.
Which was how Wei Ying figured out that he was not just a supportive ally.
In listening to the others talk about orientation and identity and attraction and cultural expectations, Wei Ying realized that what he'd always assumed was normal—finding all kinds of people physically attractive, regardless of their gender—was actually his bisexuality. So that was kind of cool.
"So yeah, now we can be queer together!" Wei Ying said, when he excitedly shared his newfound realization with Jiang Cheng.
Jiang Cheng snorted. "Yeah, 'all' and 'nothing,'" he joked.
It was Jiang Cheng who'd helped him practice what to say to his parents when he wanted to change his major at the end of sophomore year, and Jiang Cheng who reminded him to eat and sleep and "take a fucking break, Wei Ying," those next couple semesters when he took way too many hours so he wouldn't have to rack up a whole extra year's worth of student loans to finish his new degree plan.
It was Jiang Cheng who graduated first, on a gorgeous blue-skyed sunny day in May, and Jiang Cheng who suggested Wei Ying keep living with him at his new apartment, so he wouldn't have to try to find a one-semester lease until he finished in December.
(They renewed the lease together every time.)
Jiang Cheng ribbed him playfully each time Wei Ying met someone new, but he was always there each times things fizzled out after a few months for reasons that never quite made sense to Wei Ying.
Jiang Cheng occasionally dated too, and Wei Ying was glad he never did have to fight anybody—though he did drive Jiang Cheng to the emergency room the time he came home with split knuckles from punching a guy who, "seemed to think I didn't know my own mind about certain things."
But dating sucked for everybody, right? It wasn't like Wei Ying or Jiang Cheng were in any hurry to settle down and do the whole spouse and kids thing or whatever. Wei Ying tried to imagine it and just... couldn't, though the image of Jiang Cheng with a baby was admittedly pretty cute.
~
It was not Jiang Cheng, but Jiang Yanli, a few months after she proposed to her girlfriend and they started planning their wedding, who Wei Ying finally asked, "Yanli-jie, how does a person decide someone else is their person?"
Jiang Yanli looked across the room to where Jiang Cheng was showing her soon-to-be-wife how to put side spin on a billiards ball and smiled. "I think you just know," she said. "You meet someone and you get to know them, spend time together, then one day you realize you love them and want to build the rest of your life with them."
Wei Ying wrinkled his nose. "I dunno if it works that way for me. Just some random person? I've never met anyone I can imagine wanting to live with all the time. Well, besides—huh..." he cut off suddenly and darted a look over at Jiang Yanli, who just calmly sipped her drink.
"Have you ever told him that?" she asked, after a moment where Wei Ying reassessed his entire life and dating history. "I think he might appreciate hearing it."
"I... huh. Yanli-jie, you're kinda blowing my mind here," he complained.
"I gathered," she said wryly, before fixing him with a smile that made all the hair on the back of his neck stand up. "Of course, I trust," she told him, "that I do not need to explain to you of all people how very dearly I hold my didi's happiness and well-being."
He swallowed and raised three fingers in the salute he'd used ever since the summer that—hah—he and Jiang Cheng had decided as kids that they would make their own oath of brotherhood like the heroes of their favorite show. "I, Wei Ying, swear to you that I would kick my own ass before I did anything to hurt him."
Jiang Yanli leaned over to knock her shoulder against his and nodded. "That's what I thought."
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Turned out, dating Jiang Cheng didn't suck at all.
It felt easy in a way Wei Ying’s past dates never had, less like trying to keep up with a game whose rules everybody knew except him, more like... well, like spending time with his best friend in the whole world, but on purpose. There was also a tension in the back of Wei Ying’s mind that seemed to have lifted, though he couldn't quite pinpoint what it was that had gone.
It was Jiang Cheng who helped him figure it out.
"I think it's that now I'm able to count on this. On us," he said, when Wei Ying brought it up. "Before, whenever you went out with someone new, I wondered if this would be the time you'd find someone to fall in love with and leave me behind."
"Aww, Chengcheng! I would never!"
Jiang Cheng huffed and rolled his eyes, but his cheeks were pink. "Well, I know that now," he said, a pleased little smile breaking through his attempts at a scowl.
"As long as you're sure—" Wei Ying began, still getting used to thinking about himself with the word "aromantic." Still a so very sure that Jiang Cheng deserved to be fallen in love with.
"Hey!" Jiang Cheng cut him off. "None of that. I know you. And I know you don't see it this way, but I personally think it's pretty damn romantic that you choose to love me, on purpose."
"I simply have exquisite taste in life partners," Wei Ying sniffed, embarassed the way he always got when Jiang Cheng declared something he'd done "romantic."
"You do," Jiang Cheng agreed. "Someone told me a long time ago I was the best guy in the world and would make an awesome boyfriend, and that he would fight anyone who said differently."
Wei Ying laughed. "That's you and your sister I've promised to kick my own ass if I ever break your heart, then. Guess I'll just have to keep you forever."
"Damn right, you will," Jiang Cheng agreed, grinning smug and happy and breathtakingly beautiful. Wei Ying leaned across the couch to give him a sweet, closed-mouth kiss—the kind Jiang Cheng had shyly admitted he actually did like, a lot—and smiled too, at how lucky he'd gotten to be with his best friend in the whole world for his entire life.
🖤💜
Today's (extremely long!) thread was inspired by this WONDERFUL art of ace Jiang Cheng and bi & aro Wei Ying! Go give Midori some love on Twitter!
I spent a nonzero amount of time googling to double check when various terms and flags came into vogue, so if you're wondering, WWX & JC were in college in the early 2000s, before the ace and aro flags were designed. By the time they get themselves figured out, they can get their cute wristbands.
...which, yes, means these dingdongs spent about a solid decade living together before realizing that was what they wanted to do forever. 😉
This also means Jiang Yanli and her unnamed wife here are getting married between when California started recognizing same-sex marriages in 2008 and the Obergefell v. Hodges ruling in 2015! THIS SHIT'S RECENT!!!
Happy Pride, thank you for reading, check out more LGBTQIA+ sweetness on my #PrideMonthSnippets Masterpost!
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aroacenita · 3 years ago
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Why I think Byron was accidentaly Aro-Coded
An essay by a very desperate Aro
(Also blame @poyogwem for Encouraging this on my headcanons blog)
But first let me clarify some stuff. This post is half serious and half joking.
Half joking beacause I doubt that a company so popular and big like Supercell would risk having a canonically Aromantic character, or even hint at it, as a big part of their fanbase would be against this due to amatonormativity. Beacause 1. They are cishets that can't fathom anyone not being like them, or 2. They are other allo queer people that just apperently feel that their ships (Or their own allo queer headcanons) are more important than our representation.
Yes im talking about some of you who only headcanon the non humans as Aro-spec, you are Arophobic and need to work on why you see us as not human
But it's half serious beacause, well, it's all there. At plain sight. And part of me thinks that it's just my desperation for even a crumb of representation.
But the other part of me want's it so bad, that it's willing to make the other part shut up
Well that got serious
Anyways!
1. His color palete
A simple yet telling sign, the colors are the exact same as the ones on out beautiful flag. And to prove it, I've taken to colors form him to make the aro flag
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Way
Too similar
Plus, most of his design is based around the color green, wich has pretty much been claimed by the Aromantic community as one of our symbols
2. The white ring
This
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Is an Aromantic ring. Another symbol (And sing) of our community. It's a white ring usually used one the heart finger.
And would ya look at that
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This bitch is wearing mutliple of them
And it also fits his character pretty well, just like the color palete. Byron is really extra but still likes to be "Subtle", so straight up dressing like his pride flag and having multiple rings could be a sneaky reference to some, and a slap in the face while screaming "IM AROMANTIC" to others
(Like me)
3. His relationship with animals
Im just going to say it, this is the most far fetched of them all, but it's still worth mentionimg. As we all know, everything about Byron's design resembles snakes, from his clothes to his beard, all of somehow looks like that reptile. Hell, he even accentuates the "S" when he talks, and has voicelines mentioning snakes and reptiles
And guess to what animals are reptiles close to?
Frogs!
And frogs are also a big symbol for the aro community!
...
I told you this one was far fetched. But let's be honest he probably likes those incredibly venomous frogs that live in the rainforests, with their vivid colors and powerfull venoms
4. His lifestyle
I researched a bit about the lifestyle of old timey scammers like him, and apart from finding out that Snake Oil is an actual remedy that works and was demonized due to white people taking advantage of chinese inmigrants, I found that their lifes where... Almost ideal tbh
Most of them traveled the world alone or with their pets, onlu finding human company in the villages that they would visit (That they would leave sooner than later cuz, well, they were scammers). Most of them never had any partners or family. It was just them and their pets
Does that sound Allo to you?
Short answer, no. Specially for the standarts of that (And our) time where everyone had to get married/have a partner.
And from what we know Byron's life was exactly like that before he entered Starr Park, and he really seemed happy with it!
Hell, his friends are a robot and "The most beautifull girl in town" that mind you Supercell never showed him wanting to court her, when they have made so many of the Masc characters do!
They even made Crow try and "get" her for fucks sake
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Your comphet (And compallo) is showing guys 😒
In conclusion:
Theres no way this asshat is Alloro. There is too much proof for him to be at least somewhere in the Aro-spectrum
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nonbinaryresource · 4 years ago
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hi. i wanted to ask whether or not it’s ok to take comfort in a person that has not officially come out as trans but has included many forms of gender expression in their work? i’m trans and when i listened to this artist’s work (harry styles - she & fine line) i connected with the songs immediately? i found a lot of people in the community who too connected to the songs and interpreted the lyrics as a struggle with one’s gender identity. at first i was against calling harry trans because i thought it was wrong, but then after reading master posts i discovered that he constantly portrays gender in his work (using the trans flag on his album cover; being ok with his friends referring to him with she/her, miss, ‘sue’ instead of ‘harry’, and sis; his obsession with babies and especially wanting to get pregnant; relating himself only to female artists; etc.) and now i’m really confused. it feels comforting as a fan to relate to him and i, and a lot of other fans from the community, sometimes refer to him with he/she/they instead of he/him (he never said his pronouns are he/him). is that wrong? every time my (trans) friends and i refer to him with pronouns other than he/him or tell people not to assume he’s cis as he never specified that, other (usually cis. a trans fan called me transphobic and told me to stop seeking validation from cis white men.) fans will start calling us transphobic and delusional and attacking us to the point we had anxiety attacks over it? i’m just really confused right now. i don’t want to misgender anyone but i don’t understand why relating to someone who, from their actions, could be part of the community is wrong. i’m not out to anyone irl and sometimes i wish people caught on to the little things i do and recognise that i am part of the community. i don’t understand why people keep shutting down the idea the harry could be trans when he never said he was cis and was ok being referred to as she.
he has previously said that there are no lines between what's masculine and what's feminine for him anymore. i'm sorry this is so long and thank you
(You also sent in the song lyrics - thanks for the easy reference! - but I’m clipping those for length reasons.)
Disclaimer before I dig in: I am not a Harry Styles stan, I know very little about him, most of what I am going to say specifically about him is stuff I researched about specifically to answer this ask. I want to speak mostly generally to your question.
Okay, so you posed a pretty succinct, straight forward question. “i wanted to ask whether or not it’s ok to take comfort in a person that has not officially come out as trans but has included many forms of gender expression in their work?“ However, there’s also a lot of context to this ask that makes things not so straight forward, and there are several distinct issues touched upon here I want to delve into. But it seems a good a starting place as any to start with the direct question you asked.
Yes, of course it’s okay to find your own meaning in art and role models and relate to art your way from your perspective based on your experience. In fact, that’s nearly the entire purpose of art! And it makes sense too, that we as social creatures would look up to and be inspired by celebrities, artists, mentors, role models, etc. Feeling connected to and less alone because someone in the spotlight plays with gender presentation like you might or want to makes a lot of sense!
However, we have to remember that A) sometimes art is just art, and B) someone being in the spotlight doesn’t mean we actually know or understand them or are/should act familiar with them.
As an example, a couple years back, Will Jay released a song called “Never Been in Love” that pretty much exploded with aros and aces and became a bit of an anthem for a lot of us. Many wondered if he was aspec himself and there was a lot of queries about it (and I saw quite a few blogs reminding folk that they were allowed to relate to the song even if it meant something different to Will Jay or he wasn’t actually aspec). Earlier this year, he released the song “Lies” where he admits that he was writing songs he thought people would relate to and he actually had been in love even before writing “Never Been In Love”. That should do nothing to diminish how meaningful the song was to people, though! If we related to the song, we related to the song, and if it was meaningful and made us feel seen and understood, that’s great! A lot of times, art is personal, but sometimes art is just an exploration.
This concept applies even more to people themselves. It is soooo easy to idolize and romanticize people you’ve never actually met and really only see the persona they want you to see. Yes, they share personal information with the world and they experience a general lack of privacy that makes you feel like yeah, you really know who they are. But how can you really, personally, intimately know someone without interacting with them, chatting with them, getting to know them one on one? It’s fine to have role models and feel represented by and relate to a celebrity - just do not lose sight of the fact that what you’re feeling is personal feeling on your own end. It’s not something that this celebrity has actually built with you.
To put this another way: it is fine to headcanon fictional characters, but it’s not okay to headcanon real people.
Now, what I’m building up to here is that there are a lot of assumptions I am seeing - from both sides - that we cannot truly know because all we know is what Harry [or anyone] chooses to share with us. I’d like to break this down by going through some specific points.
at first i was against calling harry trans because i thought it was wrong
Okay, there are two sides to this.
1) It is wrong to apply a gender label/descriptor to someone without their permission.
2) In a cisnormative society, “cis” is the default gender label/descriptor to apply to everyone, and that’s equally wrong, so I get why it feels like a rebellion of the system to go “well, there are Reasons they could be trans, so I’m just going to go ahead and call them trans”.
We should get away from automatically labeling everyone as “cis”. However, the way we fix this isn’t to just decide we get to apply whatever label/descriptor to someone we want.
If someone hasn’t clarified or specified their gender (and you can’t/it isn’t a good or safe idea to ask them), it’s the safest bet to go by what they seem to be majority being called or what you can find of them referring to themself as.
In some cases, when someone seems to be specifically avoiding labeling themselves or uncomfortable with labeling themselves, it may be most comfortable for you to also avoid labeling them just as much as possible.
being ok with his friends referring to him with she/her, miss, ‘sue’ instead of ‘harry’, and sis; his obsession with babies and especially wanting to get pregnant; relating himself only to female artists; etc.)
It’s worth considering - is this something for friends only? Or is it open to fans and other public sectors?
Usually if something is for friends only, it’ll be kept out of public eye, but if only friends are doing this, is this something that is only being shared with you or is it something you’re entitled to as well?
Aaaaaaaaalso, it has to be pointed out that it’s binarist and cisnormative in it’s own way to equate different names/pronouns automatically with being trans or being a specific trans identity. Wanting to get pregnant? Do you know how many cis women I’ve heard go on and on about wanting a penis so they can pee standing up (like... all of them anytime we’re outside or camping)? Plenty of cis people use pronouns you might not expect! You don’t have to be trans/nonbinary to use multiple or ‘atypical’ pronouns. Cis people are allowed to use other pronouns as well! They’re allowed to have names typically associated with other genders! Not all gender nonconforming or genderqueer people/people queering gender are trans! Not everybody exploring their gender nor gender presentation is trans!
not to assume he’s cis as he never specified that
It’s great to not assume someone is cis! But that doesn’t automatically make them trans.
i don’t want to misgender anyone but i don’t understand why relating to someone who, from their actions, could be part of the community is wrong.
Do you specifically, absolutely need to gender someone in order to relate to them?
i don’t understand why people keep shutting down the idea the harry could be trans when he never said he was cis and was ok being referred to as she.
I’ve only recently seen a tiny bit of this ‘discourse’ around on twitter, but what I see is a few issues/points:
A) It’s not up to us to claim someone as trans if they have not come out as trans. Coming out is an extremely personal choice and should be up to each individual. “Claiming” them is basically dragging them into something that very well may be not theirs. And if it is theirs, why would you want to steal that moment of getting to determine and declare that away from them?
B) We are all so done with cis, able-bodied white folk being prioritized above the rest of the queer community!!! There are actual, legitimate, out trans people that can be your trans role models and they’re being shoved to the back of the closet in favor of a privileged, white Schrödinger’s Trans. Let’s uplift our actual community instead of getting stuck on someone who may or may not be a part of community - and may not even want to be a part of it!
All that being said, I do want to say something really quickly on Harry himself because it ties back into the assumptions we’ve been talking about. Harry’s sexuality has long been a question on fans and journalists minds, and Harry has pretty consistently made it clear that he’s not really interested in labels or boxes. Harry’s gender is not something that has been asked about, talked about, or answered on much. And his comment on masculinity and femininity? Let’s remember that, like pronouns, masculinity and femininity don’t automatically or inherently relate to one specific gender or not. And, quite frankly, it is faucet of toxic masculinity and cissexism to equate a gnc man/man in a dress with being trans. Men are allowed to wear dresses and makeup and heels! Men are allowed to be soft and nurturing and to cry! Cis or trans, men are allowed to be these things, and arguing that they’re trans simply for doing or being any of these does continue to enforce dangerous and strict views of the gender binary.
Okay, it feels like I kinda put you through the wringer, so I want to go back and reiterate: it is 100% valid to relate to and feel connected to/inspired by someone on the basis of their presentation and gender exploration. It is not valid to claim ownership over their identity because of this. It is possible for two people to experience same or similar things and yet come to different conclusions about themselves!
If Harry Styles as an icon is important to you, I’m glad you can have that! But not everyone will or has to share your connection, and the only one actually qualified to speak on Harry’s gender is Harry himself. Harry could be trans, but it’s his right and his right only to claim that label. Any assuming we do is just that: an assumption. And I want you to be careful with your own feelings getting too attached to the image of Harry you’ve built up in your own head only to potentially have them shattered if Harry decides to speak on things and it turns out his feelings don’t mean what you thought.
Your identity is valid regardless of how Harry Styles feels or identifies. You feeling validated and seen and represented by Harry’s actions is valid regardless of how Harry Styles feels or identifies. It’s great to have role models and be inspired by people, but remember that at the end of the day, you need to be able to rely on yourself to keep up your ego and determine your sense of self.
~Pluto
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laf-outloud · 3 years ago
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I’m the anon whose cousin is a destiel shipper.
Thank you so much for answering. Wow, this situation is way more complicated than I thought. It’s terrible that people have received hate because of it. And I honestly don’t mind people who ship as long as they are respectful about it - As a matter of fact, my cousin ship Kara and Lena on Supergirl, but she has never been this agitated about it and has never tried to make me ship it too.
So if I understand you right, destiel is not real - Dean is not in love with Cas - but Cas is thought to be in love with Dean because the actor said so? Has anyone on the show commented on Cas’s sexuality? Because it’s strange that one actor can claim something like that if it isn’t true. I will look into Misha Collins’s behavior because my cousin follows him on twitter, and if what you say is true I don’t want her to blindly listen to him.
And to answer your question about my cousin and I; we’re not super close but she 16 and looks up to me, so I feel responsible when she’s upset, especially if it’s about her sexuality. I just wanted to know if I was the one who misunderstood something and destiel is real. I won’t say that she is wrong, but I will try and make her understand that it’s okay to interpret things differently and she should respect other people’s opinions. And that her time is better spent on LGBTQIA+ right issues in other media or off screen.
I would also like for her to stay out of that side of tumblr and twitter since it seems like a toxic “echo chamber” but I feel like it’s not really for me to say - I have to talk to my aunt about this, should be fun. So much fuss for a tv show…
You're welcome! I am also fine with people shipping Destiel in fanon, but like you said, respectfully.
And yes, you read that right. Destiel is not real. The only person involved in the show pushing that narrative is Misha and he's doing it in a way that he can claim deniability if pressed. None of the writers/producers/other actors/or anyone else involved in the show have ever confirmed it's existence. x Hellers often point to subtextual clues that only they can see... micro expressions in the actor's faces, the color of Dean's shirt in a scene with Cas that equates to the colors of the Bisexual flag, or, one of my new favorites, the way Dean laid down on a table to relax. x
As for the rest of Misha's behavior, I'm going to refer you to this master blog post with many examples of how problematic he is x. It does not include his most recent troubling behavior on TikTok x (a site populated with young teenagers). I know it's a lot, but hopefully some of it will help your Aunt guide your cousin to some more age appropriate alternatives.
I'm glad to hear that your a mentor to your cousin. It's a great role to have! I'm not very involved in the LGBTQ+ community, though some would say I'm Ace or Aro (I think that's right). I've sent out a post asking other bloggers if there are LGBTQ+ blogs that would be good for her to follow.
Echo chamber!!! That's the word I was looking for! And yes, the Destiheller side is very much an echo chamber. If you want to send me a direct message (DM - little smiley face comment icon on the upper-right), there are a few twitter accounts I would recommend that your aunt block for your cousin using parental controls. These are the extreme of the extreme hellers and can be damaging to young minds.
Now, I know all of this drama seems odd for a tv show, I'll agree, it is. I think part of the problem is that fans were able to attend conventions and had much greater access to the show's creators and actors so they felt a part of it. Then, the term SPNFamily was coined and the fandom became a family, of sorts (including all the Thanksgiving Day drama). That's not to say there aren't great people in the SPN Fandom. I would say 95% of them are, otherwise we wouldn't be here, but it's important to ensure content is consumed in a responsible manner and communication with others who disagree with you is respectful.
Anyway, if you want to DM me, I can get you those Twitter Accounts as well as any recommended Tumblr blogs. I'll keep your information private.
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theriverpersonshadow · 3 years ago
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Lamia Drama Part 8
WELL THAT GOT LONGER THAN I INTENDED. But I guess that’s what happens when you have a majority of the people in one place XD
I hope this chapter went well... It felt kinda rambly, but it was fun seeing people play off each other. It was hard to get the same level of depth with characters as previous chapters with so many, but hey, interactions are fun too! Hope you guys enjoy.
As always, the species of lamia in this fic belong to @vex-bittys
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           Keith and the rest found Alex pretty easily. And a few other lamia that were either allowed free roam or had just slipped out. She didn’t seem to notice the onlookers, more caught up in petting Oozy… who wasn’t technically in his hammock. Maybe it’s best he didn’t make that bet with Hux earlier. Sure, Oozy’s close to the hammock, but Hux would absolutely rules lawyer him and demand snacks because he’s not in the hammock. Hux was a rule stickler… when and only when it helped him in some way. Eh, Keith could roll with it though (even if his dice sometimes couldn’t, but that’s what a DM screen is for).
           Keith was hesitant to break up the cute moment between the two – Oozy was apparently having the time of his life, and Alex seemed pretty wrapped up in it herself, humming some tune or another while stroking him. Keith listened, trying to place it, but…
           She was repeating it, huh? Was that the only part of the song she knew? Then again, it seemed like the good part, whatever it was. Easy enough to pick up too. Keith started humming along.
Hux rolled his eyes, mumbling something that sounded suspiciously like “great, two of them” and slithered over, “Yo. Girl person. Ya coming or what?”
Alex looked up, “I mean, yeah, I think? Coming where?”
“nooooooooo…” Oozy said, taking her hand and putting it back on his head. “Sorry guys. I’m stealing her. She’s my personal petter now. That’s the rules.”
“Since when?!” Hux said.
Oozy looked a moment, then licked her hand. “I licked her, she’s mine.”
Keith stared at him in shock, not sure whether to laugh or slap him. “Dude.”
Nikolai gave a heavy sigh, rubbing the bridge of his nose, “Don’t lick party members. Or people in general.”
           “How does that work anyways? You’re a skeleton,” Alex said.
           “Maaaagic,” Keith said, wiggling his fingers in emphasis. “In other words, uh… Monster biology is weird. Or half monster biology. Whatever the fuck we are.”
           Nikolai nodded, “More or less, yes. I can explain it in more detail later, if you’d prefer.” He started coming forward and Alex inched away. Keith hissed before he could catch himself, but Nikolai didn’t seem offended. Instead, he lowered himself in a bow, “And I’d like to apologize for how I acted earlier… I’ll admit I, erm… Overreacted. But we’ve had issues in the past of people coming in to steal babies or eggs, one of the fools tried to snag a mamba egg and got himself killed. I just get a bit jumpy about strangers around them.”
           Alex nodded, relaxing a little, but still staring off at a clock instead of Nikolai. Her hand continued to run across Oozy as she said, “I get it. They’re just little dudes, too freaking small. And some are venomous. Not like you knew me.”
           “Still, I should’ve given you more of a chance or at least asked you politely to leave before turning to threat displays,” Nikolai said.
           “Eh… It was my fault,” Keith said. “I should’ve warned ya I was bringing someone in. Anyways, let’s try this again. Alex, this is Nikolai. He could probably fuck you up, but he’s everyone’s mom.”
           Nikolai made no move to deny it.
           “Hux here is the grumpy snake. He’ll warm up to ya.”
           “No I won’t.”
           Keith rolled his eyes, “He’s just a grump.”
           Hux mumbled to himself.
           “I think you’ve met Oozy pretty well by now.”
           “Sup,” Oozy said, making absolutely zero movement.
           “And, erm… Nikolai, you’ve got Trousle, right.”
           “Hello human! I’m Trousle! Please let me say hi.” Said Trousle’s little speaker. He was poking out from Nikolai’s sleeve, apparently wrapped around his arm.
           “He’s mute, but he’s pretty fast at typing. Got his own phone and everything,” Keith said, watching this girl intently. Apparent soulmate or not, if she was dick about Trousle, she was out of here. She might’ve earned Oozy’s enthusiastic (well… enthusiastic by his standards, dude looked like a kid in a candy store, but the world’s laziest kid) approval, but he wasn’t going to let an asshole mess with the little dude. Hux would warm up, that was more him being a bit of an ass than her, but he’d get over it… probably.
           “Oh that’s cool! Do you have a phone number? Honestly I think my fingers work better than my mouth sometimes, but I guess talking out loud doesn’t really have a backspace key? But yeah! C’mere… Wait, I can hold him, right? Snakes are just, like, noodle puppies.” She paused, looking at everyone in the room. “I’d offer to hold you guys, but I am literally the second smallest person in here. I mean, guess we can try, but I don’t think it’ll go well?”
           Keith snorted. Gosh, she was something, huh? A little awkward, but who wouldn’t be super awkward in this situation?
           Nikolai brought Trousle over and she draped him around her neck. He nuzzled her cheek, giving her little scratches behind the ear.
           … should someone tell him that she’s not a dog?
           …
           Naaaaaaaaaah. She didn’t seem to mind anyways,
           Hux made a fake-gagging gesture at the two and Keith rolled his eyes, whispering at them, “Oh let’em have this. It’s cute.”
           “I’m getting diabetes. Like, right now. They’re just beaming diabetes across the room.”
           “Be nice,” Nikolai said, “It’s not going to kill you to have to actually smile at a human once in a while.”
           “Yes it will. It’s, like, a terminal thing. If I smile at a human, I will instantly turn to dust.”
           No such condition had ever existed and likely never would.
           Keith’s first instinct was to back up Nikolai, but it was almost an in-joke that he’d at least try to defend Hux no matter how clearly in the wrong the guy was. Admittedly, it was as often as not either due to boredom or just feeling bad for the guy…
           It’s not like Hux didn’t have a point – a point that he had iterated in frustrated, sometimes tear-filled tirades at least a few dozen times. He didn’t want to be treated like a pet, he’s allowed to not want to be a pet. Sure, not every adopter is like that. Some might’ve been looking for pets, yeah, but just as many want a kid or a friend, especially with full sized lamia. It could be more or less just like adopting any other monster, save for needing a good deal more raw meat. But Hux didn’t see it that way… Not that Keith ever blamed him. There wasn’t a huge market for full-sized Corals, their reputation as being stubborn, a bit lazy, and tsundere as hell was cute in something you could pick up and snuggle as it chirped indignantly and secretly enjoyed it – like an extra intelligent, reptilian cat – but less so when it was just as big as you and probably stronger. Everyone wanted a housecat, no one wanted a mountain lion. Or those that did need something to growl and hiss would probably pick Kings or Mambas.
           Nikolai gave a long-suffering sigh, “You will not turn to dust if you’re forced to be nice every now and then.”
           “Yeah I will. It’ll, like, strangle my soul or some shit. Keith, back me up here. Tell ‘im.”
           Nikolai had the distinct impression of a haggard mom trying to reason with an unruly kid. He just looked so done. Dude could handle customers, angry mamba moms, being a jungle gym for babies, and training employees who may or may not have believed he knew he what he was doing, but Hux was his breaking point.
           Keith stifled a chuckle, stuffing his hands in his pockets as his mind worked over what to do… He didn’t want to just abandon Hux – Nikolai would know it was just him being a loyal bro – but Alex wouldn’t. She might not’ve been looking at them, but he caught the way she kept glancing over…
           “Welp, ya heard him. He’s sick. I prescribe ten CC’s of coffee with extra sugar and bribery with shiny objects.”
           Hux’s head popped up, body at attention. “I’m listening… How many shiny objects are we talking.”
           “… we’re not bribing him.”
           “I’ve got extra dice?” Alex said hesitantly. Trousle was looking at her in concern, patting her face. She said, “I mean, I kinda like having all my dice, but I guess I don’t need seven sets… I’m keeping the black ones though, they’re good for fight scenes. And the orange ones, they were my first set ever and are not for sale. Also, the green and purple ones are just a fae vibe, I’m keeping them. They’re just average, but I like them.” Pause. “And the lesbian dice are mine. They won’t like you anyways, you’re a boy.”
           All of them nodded understandingly. You could only play DnD so long and not get irrationally attached to the colorful little click clack rocks of fate.
           “That counts as one shiny object,” Hux said.
           “There are seven in each set!” Pause. “Well, more or less. I’ve lost some over the years.”
           “You’ve got a point… More dice for the dice dragon! Mwahahahah!” Hux said, hamming it up.
           Keith’s mouth twitched into a grin as he shook his head at the goof. How was he this cute? Just… goober. His friend is a total goof sometimes.
           “Can I try the lesbian dice?” Trousle asked, holding himself at an awkward position to type.
           “I… I guess? Just give them back after…” Alex said. She ran a finger across Trousle’s head, smiling as he let out little breathy attempts to “Nyeh.”
           “Why are they lesbians anyways? Do they only work for girls?” Nikolai said.
           “Here, lemme show you.” She unzipped one of the pouches on her bag and brought out a baggy full of dice that were lesbian flag colored. “My friend got them for me for Christmas.”
           “That’s amazing. I want twelve,” Keith said.
           “You’re not a lesbian… or a girl! I think… I mean, if there’s something you want to tell us, that’s fine, but I was under the impression you weren’t even interested in relationships,” Nikolai said.
           “Maybe I could get, like… Dice that are for people who are just no.”
           “Ace and aro. Probably,” Alex said.
           “Oh cool. Words for it. Nice!”
           “Give me words for friends with everyone! I want a flag too!”
           “I… I don’t know if there’s a flag for that? Maybe we could put a dog on a flag? It’d be hard to make dice with dogs on them though,” Alex said.
           “Ya could put a little dog face on every side and interpret the roll based on how much they’re a Good Boy,” Keith said.
           “That would only roll Nat 20’s,” Alex said, deadpan.
           “… good point. It could be the luckiest dice,” Keith said, grinning.
           “I AM THE GOODEST BOY. Give me dog dice.” Trousle said, tucking the phone away to throw his little fists in the air, a gleam in his eye as he sat on Alex’s head.
           Keith laughed. “Oh my gosh. I mean, that sounds adorable, but, uh… I think that miiiiight be a little too game breaking, even for me.”
           “Give me dog dice.” He slithered back down to around Alex’s neck, holding himself out towards Keith the best he could and giving some mix between a glare and a pout.
           “Trousle no.”
           “Trousle YES,” Alex said.
           Troulse nodded enthusiastically, bouncing in place so hard that he fell off and Alex yelped as she caught him.
“Are you alright?!”
           Trousle gave a thumbs up, coiling around her arm.
           Oozy had apparently fallen asleep on the floor, so Hux poked him with a stick, making Oozy whine. “Soooooo… Are we gonna get Glitterass, or are we just shadow banning him from this? I mean, I wouldn’t say no if we are…”
           “We should probably go get him, yeah,” Keith said. “Ya ready Alex? Liam’s a mamba, and one of his eyes don’t work. Try to stay on his good side, literally. Metaphorically too if you want, but he doesn’t like having people where he can’t see or hear them well.” Not that anyone would like that, just courtesy really, but maybe not something you’d think of immediately.
           Alex nodded, “Alright, let’s go!”
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joycrispy · 4 years ago
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caduceus and/or beau for the character ask game?
Sure! I’ll do both.
CADUCEUS first.
Sexuality Headcanon: I’m NEARLY CERTAIN he’s some flavor of ace, but I waffle on whether he’s straight up aro-ace or ace and homo-romantic. 
Because it’s not quite accurate to say he never notices sexual things at all --he’s definitely heterophobic on main (and I love him for it), but he also makes a point to comment on handsome male npcs (particularly if they’re beefy, but not always. He thinks The Gentlemen is VERY attractive, for example), something which he never does for women. It feels pointed, from an RP standpoint. So I suppose there’s also a chance he’s just kind of a chill/shy gay dude.
It’s possible Caduceus himself isn’t sure, much in the same way he couldn’t answer if he was a good man or a bad man (”I don’t think I have enough experience to say” is what he said, and. Well.). 
Either way there’s basically a 0% chance in my mind that this firbolg is straight.
Gender Headcanon: He’s a man by way of indifference. If Molly’s answer to the gender question was, “Yes!!!” then Cad’s answer is, “...Sure.”
I think he just likes what he likes and feels what he feels and doesn’t ascribe gender to any of it (sharp contrast to Fjord, who only just recently learned that you’re allowed to be a man and be soft, mostly by watching Cad).
A ship I have with said character: Fjorclay, but my perception of it as a “cute” ship has taken some hits. It’s gotten a little fucked up, lately.
A BROTP I have with said character: TEAM CLERIC but I also love his relationship with Yasha. They are very good gentle giants together. And I like how Beau just kind of *gets* him in a way the others don’t.
A NOTP I have with said character: I genuinely don’t understand any ship that puts him with a woman. Also I don’t like Cl*ysol, personally.
A random headcanon: Outside of shipping I’m not much of a headcanon person. I’m a canon-compliant sort of fan.
Ummm...I kind of imagine his relationship with Colton to be an angrier version of Nani and Lilo’s relationship in the first half of Lilo & Stitch. Just. This guy who has absolutely Had It with his weirdo little brother.
General Opinion over said character: He’s the best and I love him.
BEAU
Sexuality Headcanon: I mean. There’s not much room for headcanons here. Beau is a huge lesbian.
Gender Headcanon: Beau is what happens when the “I’m not like other girls”-girl grows up and gets her head on straight. She’s tough and promiscuous and crude and absolutely none of that is ‘masculine’ or contradictory to her status as a sexy ass lady. Gender be like that sometimes.
A ship I have with said character: Hnnngh. Okay. I started with Beauyasha. Then the in-game confession happened and I veered to Beaujester. Then the playlist and the recent in-game stuff happened so I’m back to Beauyasha, but I also still like Beaujester? Then Jester looked sad when she thought Beau and Yasha had sex, and also the dimension door JUST happened, so I guess what I’ve landed on is Bashter OT3.
A BROTP I have with said character: Beau and Fjord are such beautiful idiots together, honestly.
A NOTP I have with said character: Do Not Ship Beau With Men.
A random headcanon: She seems to be the most hyper-aware of power-imbalances in relationships (she was the one who first articulated what a massive red-flag Artagan pretending to be a little boy was), so I tend to think that she would take the role of Protective Older Sibling in matters of love, for any member of the Nein. 
General Opinion over said character: Probably tied with Fjord for “has changed the most” over the course of the campaign so far, and seeing how far she’s come makes me so damn happy. Love her.
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anyarally · 3 years ago
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Defective Robot
Sanders Sides Fanfiction Virgil X Logan (Analogical), Virgil X Roman (Prinxiety), Logan has Hanahaki for Virgil 4,812 Words   Ao3 Link
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Logan Connaissance and Virgil Angoisse had been best friends since seventh grade, but they started to drift apart in freshman year. Why? Because Virgil started dating the only guy who managed to be a theatre kid and a jock, Roman Prince. Roman was nice to Virgil, but he and Logan absolutely hated each other. They disagreed on just about everything, the only thing they had in common was the jelly brand they enjoyed.
Logan Connaissance and Virgil Angoisse had been best friends since seventh grade, but they started to drift apart in sophomore year. Why? Because Virgil started dating the only guy who managed to be a theatre kid and a jock, Roman Prince.
Roman was nice to Virgil, but he and Logan absolutely hated each other. They disagreed on just about everything, the only thing they had in common was the jelly brand they enjoyed.
The longer Roman and Virgil dated, the more confused Logan became about his feelings. He thought he had never felt love, but the research he was doing led him to believe he was feeling it currently towards Virgil. He had no idea if this love was platonic or romantic, but one thing he knew for sure was that he was going to ignore it.
One day in sophomore year, Logan and Virgil were going through the lunch line together, as they always did, when Virgil piped up, “Hey, Lo?”
“Yes, Virgil?”
“Do you think we could maybe sit with Roman today? I know it messes up your routine and is probably annoying and frustrating but I-”
“Virgil,” Logan made eye contact and stopped walking, “you’re spiraling. I would greatly enjoy spending lunch with you as well as Roman.” Logan knew he shouldn’t lie, but this was the only way.
Virgil let out a breath of relief, “Oh thank god. Awesome, his usual table is this way.”
They walked to the table and the conversation going on was about sexuality and LGBTQ+, and they were sharing their identities.
Virgil sat down next to Roman, Roman snaking an arm around his waist. Virgil blushed but did nothing to stop it.
Since they were already sharing, they decided to go around the table and say their names too.
“Roman, gay. Duh.”
“Virgil, asexual and gay-romantic”
“Virgil, it’s homoromantic.”
“I know, but gay-romantic is better.”
Logan sighed, “Logan, asexual and panromantic.”
“Patton, pan!” Patton grabbed his backpack and pointed to a button on it with a picture of a frying pan. Logan stared at him for a moment before sighing.
“Janus, gay.”
“Remus! Roman’s aro-ace brother!” Remus cackled as everyone gagged at his inside out eyelids, excluding Logan.
Janus groaned, “It’s not like we’re eating or anything!
Roman pushed Remus so he fell off the bench, laughing the whole way down. “Hey, I’ve got an idea! Once we’re done eating we should help draw pride flags on each other’s hands!”
As lunch went on, Logan was able to participate (sometimes with Virgil’s help), keep up with the conversation, and even laugh! He’s always had trouble making friends, Virgil had been the best thing that had ever happened to him. He had trouble keeping up with conversations because he usually found them uninteresting and zoned out, reading, writing, or just thinking if he couldn’t do those. He actually couldn’t remember the last time he laughed about anything other than something he learned or something Virgil told him.
Only as he was walking home, ace flag on one hand and pan flag on the other, did Logan’s smile fall for good. He had just split off from Virgil, walking down the street to his house.
He opened the door, calmly stating, “I’m home. What would you like for dinner?”
“Oh honey, you don-”
“Shut up! Don’t you know what kids are for? Especially fucking defective ones like him!” Logan just stared as his father gestured to him with a beer bottle. “Fucking robot. Go make us some spaghetti. You don’t get any tonight.”
Logan’s mother just sadly watched, too frightened to intervene.
“Yes, sir.” Logan nodded at his father. As soon as the giant burly man flopped back down on the couch to drink and flip channels, Logan quickly but calmly went into the kitchen and started boiling the water.
His mother eventually came in and sat down, adjusting her taped-together glasses as she softly said, “I’m so sorry, Logan.”
“I know, mother.”
“I’m so sorry for everything, I just don’t know what to do, I just-”
Logan went over and gently touched his mother’s shoulders, “Mother, it’s alright. Next year, I’ll be able to get a job and-”
“But you shouldn’t have to! I should be able to speak up to my husband and get us out of here but I can’t !” She broke down sobbing, muttering “I can’t” over and over again under her breath.
Logan awkwardly rubbed her back for a few minutes before sighing and going back to making dinner.
At the dinner table, while Logan was dishing out the food, his father noticed something. Before Logan could sit down, his father yanked his hand towards him, already bruising Logan’s wrists.
“What the hell is this, Lo-bot? You some kind of fancy fag?!”
“I-I apologize, sir, it was for a project, they don’t mean anything-”
“No, no, no, I recognize these from those fucking inclusivity,” his father used air quotes, “posts on Facebook and those buttons on kids’ backpacks! You are a fag! I thought you didn’t have the capability for emotions, much less love! Not that it matters,” he stood up, dragging Logan by his wrists with him, “all you teens are just making it all up anyway!”
Logan barely resisted the multiple ‘um, actually’ moments as to not anger his father further, wrist bruises were already hard enough to hide.
“Nothing to say now, huh? Typical.” He slammed Logan’s head on the counter, Logan’s mother’s sobbing increasing volume in the background.
Logan’s eyesight was getting fuzzier and fuzzier, but he could tell his glasses were cracked. “Father, please, I-I have a t-test tomorrow, I can’t call in s-s-sick…”
Logan’s father gave a hardy laugh as he increased pressure on Logan, “Classic Lo-bot, only focused on school,” he lets his son go and pushes him in the general direction of his room, “Whatever, asshole. Go fix yourself up for your precious school !” he laughed and sat down to eat his spaghetti.
Logan staggered to his room, once inside getting his mirror and first aid kit out to assess the damage. He had a black eye, split lip, bruised wrists, a giant bruise on his jaw, and his suspicions were confirmed about his glasses, one lens almost entirely shattered.
He carefully took off his glasses, getting the tweezers and trying to pick out a few tiny pieces of glass with blurred vision. Thankfully, none of them got in his eye, but he was almost sure he had a concussion. He sighed and treated his wounds the best he could. Afterward, he got out another pair of glasses, ignoring the sting and splitting headache he got from looking at his laptop and researching makeup techniques to use tomorrow morning.
The six of them were at lunch when Virgil noticed something.
Everyone (excluding Logan) was talking about vampires.
Virgil initiated the conversation by saying, “Okay, okay, but who’s everyone’s favorite vampire?”
“Like, from all of fiction?”
“Yeah. I’ll go first, Angel from Buffy.”
Roman spoke up next, “The gayest and bestest vampire of them all, Marshall Lee the Vampire King!”
Virgil was already slightly suspicious when Logan didn’t correct Roman’s ‘bestest’ but was immediately distracted by Patton’s answer, “The guy from Sesame Street!”
“He doesn’t count!”
“Oh, I assure you he does.”
Virgil laughed, but then he noticed Logan’s expression. He was barely picking at his school lunch and his eye looked… red? Virgil had never seen Logan cry before, especially not at school, and even then it wouldn’t really make sense for him to have been crying and then just one eye be red. He gently tapped on the nerd’s hand, causing him to jolt and look up, “Hey, are you okay? Do you wanna come over for a bit today?”
“I, erm, I’m not sure. My parents won’t be… pleased.”
“Dude, they’re never pleased. I’m having Roman over for a sleepover this weekend anyway, my parents definitely won’t mind.”
“I…. suppose that could be alright. I will notify them that I won’t be home.”
Virgil gently chuckled, “Alright Lo. Just come to our normal spot, the three of us can walk together.” Virgil hooked his hand on Roman’s elbow.
At Roman’s questioning look, Virgil stated, “Logan’s gonna join our sleepover tonight. That ok?”
“Ah, yes! Any good prince knows how to compromise and improvise!”
Virgil laughed and Logan forced a smile. The rest of lunch passed normally, other than Logan still not participating much in the conversation. Patton wanted to ask, but felt it wasn’t his place since he hadn’t known him very long.
That evening, they walked home together as planned. Logan had been looking at his phone and putting it away again all night, however, and Virgil was getting suspicious. When Logan went to brush his teeth, he caught a quick glance at his phone, seeing at least fifty notifications from messages, all from contacts titled either ‘Father’ or ‘Mother’. All the texts from ‘Father’ were in all caps, but that’s all the information Virgil got just by looking at the lit-up screen while Logan brushed his teeth.
Virgil had his suspicions, but decided to keep quiet for now. He’d talk to Logan about it tomorrow, besides Virgil had known Logan long enough to know he needed as much sleep as he could get.
That night, they all set up sleeping bags (Logan used one of Virgil’s parents’s) since Virgil only had a twin bed and no one wanted to be sleeping in different places. The three teens had also gone around Virgil’s house and gathered all the extra pillows and blankets they could find and Virgil grabbed his weighted blanket.
They ended up sleeping with Virgil in the middle, which would’ve normally made him anxious, but with the combination of the weighted blanket and his love for those around him, he could sleep easily.
It’s really too bad that it took him so long to fall asleep.
As soon as Virgil felt Logan’s breathing even out, he tapped Roman’s shoulder, who eagerly stopped pretending and opened his eyes. Virgil climbed on top of Roman, eagerly making out with him. Maybe, if they hadn’t been so distracted, they could’ve noticed the hitched breaths of the form next to them.
Logan, knowing all too well how Virgil always waits until everyone else is asleep to sleep himself, pretended to be sleeping beside him. He had done this many times, both with Virgil and at home, his father was less likely to, ahem, bother Logan if he was asleep. What Logan didn’t expect was the telltale sounds of kissing next to him. He didn’t think they were at that stage yet, why didn’t Virgil tell him? By the sound of it, this is far from the first time. Why did that make him feel… angry? jealous? He wasn’t sure, but he thought they told each other everything.
He felt a tickle in his throat and covered his mouth, liquid coming out of his mouth onto his hand, if the lights had been on he’d have known that liquid was blood. Thankfully, Logan had a fair amount of experience when it came to suppressing coughs and staying silent, so he was able to make any movements seem like normal stirs.
The longer he held them in, the more they hurt, and the more nauseated he became. It seemed as if the more he heard Roman and Virgil the worse it became. After about fifteen solid minutes (Logan was counting) of making out, Roman and Virgil settled down. At that point, once they cuddled up and moved the warmth even farther away from Logan,
Logan expertly waited until Roman and Virgil’s breathing evened out and quietly and efficiently rushed to the bathroom to cough into the toilet, clumsily putting on his glasses as he went. He closed the door and took a slight risk by turning the light on, but was glad he did. He coughed into the toilet, feeling as if his throat was being torn apart from the inside out. When his coughs finally subsided and he looked into the now pink-tinged water he saw blood-soaked purple orchid petals.
Logan shivered as he remembered that purple orchids were Virgil’s favorite flower .
Memories came back to him in a flash.
“What the fuck are these flowers doing here? Do you love someone else?”
“No, baby! I love you, you know that!”
“These say something else, bitch. Who. Are. They. For.”
“No! I won’t tell you!”
Eight-year-old Logan flinched in bed as he heard a slap.
“WHO?!” A punch. “WHO?!” A kick. “WHO?!”  A crash and a loud cry.
“Okay! I’m sorry! It was… Remy. The man at the coffee shop I stop at on the way to work. I’m so sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry…”
Logan remembered the man at the coffee shop, he liked his NASA shirt and gave him a free cake pop. The blackberry and pomegranate one dyed blue. Remy said he requested it from the owner of the bakery himself.
“Oh I’ll get that little dick for you baby, and then I’ll remove your flowers personally.”
Logan sobbed, thankfully being masked by his mother’s own sobs and the slamming of a door.
Logan didn’t know what to do. He couldn’t tell his parents, even if he did father wouldn’t pay for surgery and mother couldn’t. Father would only make fun of him and it’d only make mother sad.
Logan allowed himself a few silent tears before flushing the toilet and washing the blood off at the same time in order to not drag out the sound.
He turned off the light, opened the door, and walked back to the sleeping bags, disheartened and almost needing to go back when he saw Roman and Virgil cuddling, sleeping peacefully.
That whole weekend was hell for Logan. The more he saw Roman and Virgil doing couple-y things the more accelerated the Hanahaki coughs became.
That Saturday though, Logan was pleasantly surprised. Roman had brought them to a coffee shop closer to his house (the other side of town from Virgil and Logan) and Logan immediately recognized the barista.
“Remy? Is that you?”
“Lo-Lo! Omg girl I haven’t seen you in for ever !” Rent came out from behind the counter and hugged Logan.
“Uh, L? Who’s this?”
“Oh, my apologies, this is my old friend Remy. We haven’t seen each other in years but my mother used to go by his bakery every morning on the way to work. I hadn’t realized the location had moved.”
“Yeah, about that, do you wanna maybe catch up in the back? I can ask Emile to take over the front for a bit, he’ll understand.”
Logan nodded, and Remy brought him behind the counter and a man with a pink tie and a yellow apron came out to help Virgil and Roman order.
“Wonder what that’s about…”
“Yeah, no offense to him but I thought you were his only friend before he met the group.”
Meanwhile, in the back of the shop, Remy and Logan were catching up.
“Remy, I thought you were dead. Did my father do something?”
“Jumpin’ right in, aren’t we? Fuck yeah, your father did something, that’s why I have this,” Remy pulled up his shirt to show a deep scar on his abdomen.
Logan gasped, “I’m so sorry-”
“Don’t apologize for him, he’s an asshole, it doesn’t mean you are. You were seven, man.”
Logan sighed and looked down, “I know.”
“Anyway he never actually said why? He mentioned your mom, but just kinda went for it.”
“Wait, you don’t know?”
“He didn’t exactly stop and tell me, babe, he just waited for me to get off work and jumped me. Must not’ve known much about human bodies though because he never checked to see if I was dead, just left me bleeding out there. Thank god I was able to call Emile in time.”
“My mother, she had Hanahaki… for you,” Remy raised an eyebrow, “When my father found out he forced her to tell him who it was for and, well you’re aware of what happened next.”
“Oh wow. Well, I’m gay so it being unrequited tracks. I guess when she thought I was dead it went away?”
“I suppose so. May I ask why you didn’t report it to the authorities?”
“Well, Emile was a doctor before opening the bakery so he knew enough to patch me up, and your father was wearing a mask so I didn’t get his face. We were planning on changing locations anyway, so we just kinda didn’t? Why, would you have wanted me to? I won’t hesitate to stab a bitch back for you, hun.”
“No, that won’t be necessary, I was simply curious.”
“Although, now that I think about it, the day of and the month after Emile said he didn’t see her at all, why did your mom stop coming? Did she know?”
“Father made her quit her job, she had no reason to come anymore.”
Remy was looking at Logan in shocked silence, amazed at how calmly Logan stated such a horrible thing.
“Lo-Lo, is your father… abusive? To you or your mother?”
“No! What made you think that?!”
“Calm down, Lo, it’s alright, I believe you.”
Logan sat back down, when had he stood up? He took a deep breath.
“Logan, let me give you my number,” Remy gently held his hand out.
Logan relented, opening his phone to create a new contact and handing it over. When he got it back, it had tons of emojis after the name, but Logan could edit it later. He chuckled and put his phone away, “Well Remy, I’m glad we got to talk. I genuinely thought you were dead. It’s a… relief, to know you’re alright.” Logan finished with a soft smile.
“You too, kid,” Remy chuckled as he ruffled Logan’s hair.
When they came out, Roman and Virgil were already sitting at a table, three drinks on it with them. Logan smiled as he knew Virgil got him exactly what he wanted.
“Oh, Lo, before I forget! Meet Emile, my husband.”
“So this is the Logan I’ve heard so much about?” Emile held his hand out to Logan, “Emile Picani, do you how do?.”
Logan’s face flushed and it took him a second to process that what he said had to be a reference, but he shook Emile’s hand and put two and two together in his head, “Wait, Picani? You wouldn’t happen to know a Patton, would you?”
“Oh, yes! Patton is our son,” Emile wrapped his arms around Remy’s waist, “Are you and him friends at school?”
“Yes sir, we sit together at lunch, Virgil and Roman sit with us too,” Logan gestured to Virgil and Roman, who were already not-so-subtly listening to the conversation.
Emile repressed the urge to cringe at ‘sir’ before he looked at Roman and Virgil, “Hi there!” he gestured to Remy and himself, “We’re Patton’s parents! And Remy here is an old friend of Logan’s, his mom visited here often before we changed locations.”
“Oh cool, nice to meet you!” Roman excitedly stood up and shook Emile’s hand.
Emile and Remy both chuckled before Virgil added, “‘Sup.” with a two-fingered salute.
Logan wanted to stay and enjoy the moment, but he felt a familiar tickle in his throat when he saw Roman and Virgil were sharing a shake and he couldn’t take it any longer. “Excuse me,” he rushed to the bathroom, ignoring the questioning looks.
He threw open the door and rushed into a stall, hastily locking the door behind him. He started to cough into the toilet, the smell of iron permeating his senses. He could feel the spikes from the orchid’s stem in his throat jerking around as he coughs up as much as his body will allow.
Once his coughs finally subside, he looks into the dark pink-tinged water, surprised to see an entire flower floating in the water. Logan gulps as he remembered a quote from an article he read when his mother had Hanahaki.
Once the patient inflicted coughs up an entire flower, that individual has from three days to a week to get it removed, or the patient will die. The next and final stage after a flower is another flower, this time attached to a stem, usually roots as well.
Logan sat kneeled by the toilet and contemplated. He wasn’t ready to die. He was so excited to become an adult and do all the things he ever dreamed of. Going to college, getting his Ph.D., getting a cat, actually being diagnosed for the autism he was sure he had, learning even more about the world and what lies beyond it… He… didn’t know what to do. Where should he go from here? He knew he should look into an agency or something to help him, there almost certainly is one, but would he have to go to the hospital? Would they have to know who his parents are? He couldn’t risk that. He didn’t want his father to hurt him or his mother, much less his friends. Not after what happened to Remy.
Logan stood up and washed his hands, knowing what he had to do.
He had it all planned out, he couldn’t be at home when it happened. He had his letters in his bag at all times and coughed as little as possible when at home. Luckily for Logan, the coughing fits didn’t get triggered as often at home, at least not severe enough to cause suspicion.
He walked to the bus stop alone, again. Roman had a car that didn’t have a backseat so he could take one person places but not more, so Virgil had been riding with him instead of walking with Logan more and more.
When Logan got to school, he had quite a surprise waiting for him. When he opened his locker, shaving cream fell out of it and got all over his outfit. He heard some kids laughing behind him and just by their laughter could tell it was Luke and Maddie, a couple who had bullied him since elementary school. He sighed, wiping the shaving cream off his shirt. When he picked up his books, it looked like they had put something else in his locker, making the pages of his books and journals sticky and wrinkled up. From the smell, it was probably Sprite.
He just sighed again and shoved his books in his bag. There’s not long left until this is all over, Logan, keep your cool .
His day went about as well as it could after that, but lunch was what finalized his plan. After getting his food, he looked at his table only to see someone else in his spot. Some girl with half of her hair pink and shoulder-length while the other half was brown and shaved to a buzz cut.
Logan lost it. He never went over to the table, he never even ate his lunch. Maybe if he had he’d have known that she had just got there, she was flirting with Roman and about to be turned down (for many reasons), but sadly he did not.
He dropped his lunch tray and ran to the bathroom, getting Virgil’s(and everyone in the cafeteria’s) attention, and Virgil and Roman both ran after him.
When Logan got to the bathroom, he was already sobbing, clumsily opening the wheelchair-friendly stall door and slumped down in the corner after locking the door.
He was still sobbing horribly, everything finally getting to him. His bullies, his disease, his parents, his classmates, Remy, Roman, Virgil, everything .
He opened up his phone and went to Roman’s Instagram account, scrolling through all the pictures of him and Virgil looking so happy together, knowing it would speed up the process and trigger coughing fits.
“Logan! L what’s wrong?!” Virgil banged on the stall door, only getting more sobs in response, “L please open the door I only want to help!”
“Me too!”
“Roman, I think it’d be best if you left, sorry. Logan and I need to talk alone.”
“Oh, uh, okay…” Roman hesitantly leaves the bathroom and sits outside.
“Logan? Please talk to me? It’s just us, I checked all the stalls.”
Virgil was shocked and scared to hear the horrible hacking coughs coming from Logan’s throat.
Eventually, the coughing stopped. Virgil yelled and yelled his name, and eventually Roman came back inside, “Virgil? What’s wrong?”
“He’s not responding anymore! Go get the nurse! Or anyone who can open this stall door!”
Eventually, they were able to get the door open, but what Virgil saw would forever be burned into the back of his eyes. The dead body of Logan, blood all over him, staining his tie and his books which had fallen from his bag. Blood-soaked purple orchid petals surrounding him and in the toilet, even some entire flowers in his lap. Virgil’s heart shattered when he thought about how his favorite flowers were purple orchids… not anymore, though.
Virgil saw a paper sized orange folder, just the corner stained with blood, labeled
Friends
Family
Inside, he found five envelopes, labeled Mother and Father , Remy, Emile, and Patton , Janus and Remus , Roman , and Virgil .
Later that night, after giving the other letters to the rightful owners(or in Logan’s parents’s case, putting the letter on their doorstep, ringing the doorbell, and then running away), he snuggled into his bed to read his.
Virgil,
As I’m sure you’ve figured out by now, you were my unrequited love. I hadn’t had a word to put to my feelings toward you until you started dating Roman, which triggered the Hanahaki disease in my system. You deserve the world, the sun, the moon, and all the stars, and I’m sorry you only got me. I’m sorry I’ll be gone, but I know you’ll make it through high school with or without me. You’re an incredibly smart, kind, vigilant, clever, handsome, and helpful individual, I’m so glad I had the privilege of being alive at the same time as you.
Logan
Janus and Remus,
I wish I had the opportunity to get to know the two of you better. You were always kind to me and welcomed me to your group with open arms. Thank you for bringing a smile to my days, even if school is a figurative hellhole. Just so you’re aware, I had Hanahaki for Virgil. I wish I could write out in detail how it feels for you, Remus, but I find thinking about it usually triggers a coughing fit, and I do not want to go to my home.
Logan
Remy, Emile, and Patton,
Patton, I’m sorry I never got to know you better, but you were always kind to me despite me being new and you not really knowing me. While most of your puns made me “cringe”, I did actually enjoy some of them, so thank you for bringing joy to my life.
Emile and Remy, I don’t know whether or not the two of you will be informed, but I had Hanahaki. Specifically for Virgil, but that’s not really important. I wish my father wasn’t so cruel to you, especially since you never did anything purposely against him. Again, I apologize for his behavior. I wish mother and I could’ve had a normal relationship with you, instead of her being so sheltered she fell for the first guy to treat her like a person before my father.
Logan
Mother,
Thank you for trying your best to help me. My childhood wasn’t great, but the fondest memories I have of it are the times it was just you and me. I had Hanahaki, just like you. I knew you couldn’t afford the surgery and father wouldn’t allow me to have it, seeing as I had the disease for a boy, so I never brought it up. I didn’t want to drag out the sadness any more for you. I’m so sorry I couldn’t stay alive to be old enough to get a job and help us out of here, I hope you can forgive me.
Logan
Roman,
I am going to be entirely honest with you. When I first met you, I did not like you. And when you and Virgil became romantically involved, I began to hate you. But after all the sleepovers and lunches, I have learned that you are a good person. A person that I respect, whether I like you or not. Therefore, I entrust you with the most important job I can give; please look after Virgil for me. I do not care if you two continue to date, whatever happens, just please make sure he gets through life well enough. Help him mourn, be there for him when he cries, be there for him because I no longer can. Thank you.
Logan
Hope you enjoyed! Or cried, whatever Prompt: Hiding an Illness
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Logic | Logan Sanders Angst
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Autistic Logic | Logan Sanders
Implied/Referenced Child Abuse
Child Abuse
Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism
Verbal Abuse
Slurs
Hanahaki Disease
Angst
Fluff and Angst
Alternate Universe - High School
Logic | Logan Sanders is Bad at Feelings
Blood
Mild Blood
Implied/Referenced Abuse
Bullying
Suicidal Thoughts
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i-miss-balthazar · 5 years ago
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Pride
Warnings: Idk, swearing?
Rating: General audiences
Pairings:  Jody x Donna (I don’t know their ship name), DreamHunter, background Destiel
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The phone rang twice, before Dean picked up. 
“Hello?” The hunter asked cheerfully. Hearing him brought a smile to Jody’s face. 
“Hey Dean, how you doing?” She greeted. 
“Everything’s pretty good over here. Just got back on a shopping trip.” Dean hummed. 
“What are you doing tomorrow afternoon?” Jody asked, eyeing the circle on the calendar in front of her, marking tomorrow’s date in bright pink. 
“Nothing I can think of, how come?” Dean responded. 
“Well the pride parade in Sioux Falls is tomorrow, and I’m sure the girls would love having you guys there. Plus it’ll be good to catch up.” 
“Pride parade? We’re in!” Gabriel’s muffled voice called from the other line, making Jody chuckle softly.
“Well I guess my mind is made up.” Dean laughed. “Text me the information, we’ll be there.” 
“Wonderful, Dean…”
“Alright, I’ve gotta let you go so I can unpack the groceries. We’ll see you tomorrow, Jody!”
“See you tomorrow.” 
~|~
“Claire, give me back my makeup!” Alex scowled. 
“I just need to borrow the pink, Alex, calm your tits.” Claire retorted. 
“It isn’t my fault the only colour you have is blacker than your soul!” Alex crossed her arms. 
“Girls! Quit fighting.” Jody sighed. “Alex, she can use your makeup for now.” Claire gave Alex a smug look. “But next time she will ask, right Claire?” Jody asked expectantly, crossing her arms. Claire rolled her eyes. 
“I only took it because I knew she’d say no.” She huffed. 
“Share, girls.” Jody sighed, turning to Donna as she exited the bathroom, a her hair done up nicely and makeup equally as beautiful, with a shirt coloured in the pink yellow and blue of the pansexual flag. She gave a gesture of ‘ta da’, smiling brightly, and Jody’s heart melted. “You look beautiful, Donna…” She praised, stealing a kiss. Jody didn’t get as dressed up as everyone else. She wore plain jeans, and flannel over a shirt that said ‘we’re all human’, the letters of ‘human’ styled with various pride flags. Though, she did intend to buy a demisexual flag while they were there. 
“I’m ready.” Patience informed, sitting down on the couch. She was wearing a black and white quarter sleeve shirt reading ‘my sexuality is nope’ in the ace colours, and holding a small aro flag. 
“You look great, sweetie.” Donna smiled. 
“We’re leaving in five minutes!” Jody called to the other girls.
“I’m almost ready!” Alex shouted. Claire strutted out, her signature leather jacket on over a black shirt with a rainbow, with ‘kiss whoever the fuck you want’ scrawled above the flag. She also had her makeup done in the colours of the lesbian flag, and displayed an assortment of pins on her jacket. Alex slipped out after her.
“I would’ve been ready sooner if someone hadn’t stolen my makeup.” She glared at Claire. 
“Hey. No fighting, you two.” Jody warned, pointing a finger at them sternly. 
“Yes mom.” Claire sighed. 
“Can we go now?” Alex grinned. Jody smiled, ushering them to the car. 
~|~
It was about half way through the day when Jody rounded the girls up. Each of them had an assortment of wristbands from all the activities, and Claire was covered in glitter. Patience’s cheek was painted with black white grey and purple, and Alex was draped in a bisexual flag, beaded necklaces around her neck. They’re each glowing with joy, and Jody smiled fondly.
“The boys are here, we’re going to meet them at where the sidewalk painting is going to happen in…” she checks her watch. “Ten minutes, so let’s head over there.” Jody hummed, leading her girls in the right direction, catching Donna’s hand as they walked. 
Jack noticed them first, his whole expression lighting up with joy. He had pink white and blue painted on his cheek, and a shirt that said ‘trans pride’ with a pink white and blue unicorn. 
“Hello!” He beamed, waving to them. 
“Hey you guys!” Dean smiled, approaching them and hugging Jody, then Donna. Sam followed his lead. Dean was sporting a bisexual shirt - a pun on the N’Sync song ‘Bye Bye Bye’, and also had some light makeup on, while Sam had a demisexual flag draped over his shoulders. After hugging the girls, Dean retreated to Castiel’s side, who merely had a rainbow flag, stealing a kiss. Gabriel was shirtless, body glitter decorating his torso in a rainbow of colours, while the pansexual flag hung around his shoulders like a cape, and the glitter was probably the only reason he wasn’t trying to get a piggy back ride from Sam. 
“You guys look great.” Jody praised. 
“Thank you, I designed it!” Gabriel boasted. “Pretty much all of it. I went shopping and got them to wear as much as possible.” He glared at Sam and Cas. “Some were picky.” 
“It’s fine, it don’t matter what you’re wearing, long as you have a good time.” Donna assured. 
“Crosswalk painting will start in five minutes! Everyone get your brushes!” A voice called through a megaphone, and well, how could any of them resist?
~|~
They stayed for a long time, until the sun faded from the sky. Jody sent a group text, telling them where to meet for the fireworks, and Claire was making her way there. Unfortunately, she got swept away by the crowd, and now found herself on the outskirts. With an angry huff, she pulled out her phone, trying to get a GPS. Head down as she walked, she did her best to avoid crashing into anyone, but as she crossed a corner she collided with someone, knocking them both down. 
“Sorry…” she mumbled, shaking her head. “Stupid phone.” She picked the device up, rising and offering the girl her hand. When the other girl took her hand, her brain completely short circuited. 
“It’s okay.” She murmured, taking Claire’s hand to pull herself up. Claire would recognize that face anywhere. Kaia Nieves, they had math together in third block all semester, and bio last block the semester before. And Claire was madly in love with her. “You’re Claire, right? From math class?” She asked. Claire forgot how to use English. 
“I...uh...yeah. That’s me.” She smiled, her eyes catching on the lesbian pride button adorning her sweater. Good to know. 
“Didn’t think I’d see anyone from school here, they’re all kind of…” Kaia trailed off. 
“Ignorant douchebags?” Claire guessed. Kaia gave a guilty smile. “Most of them are.” Claire chuckled. “But uh… you’re pretty cool.” She offered a smile.
“Thanks.” Kaia smiled back. Now or never, Claire…
“Hey, uh… you wanna watch the fireworks together?” Claire asked quickly, before she could abort. Kaia blinked, blushing softly. 
“...okay.” She agreed softly. Claire’s smile brightened, and she took Kaia’s hand, leading her off. It was a night to remember. 
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Author’s Note: This one’s especially for Sheya! She gave me the prompt. If I had any art skills, I’d definitely draw them all for you guys, but alas. Also full disclosure, I have never been to pride, but I asked around and consulted google, so I hope it’s okay!
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lemonadelyric · 4 years ago
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ALL.THE QUESTIONS FOR THAT ASK MEME
1. What do you identify as and what are your pronouns? I use he/him pronouns, please! And I have a lot of identities so uh, be warned. I'm nonbinary! Not really sure on gender, or any specifics. I'm pretty fluid between andro/masc/fem so??? It's a big Question Mark. I'm polyamorous! I'm in a handful of relationships but they're all important to me. I'm also pretty open about loving and appreciating my friends too! I'm pansexual! I'm also panromantic and nebularomantic! I know people debate on pansexual/polysexual/bisexual all the time, and honestly I just go with pan cause I like the flag colors xD But also, it's basically me saying I feel attraction not based on gender/presentation! 2. How did you discover your sexuality, tell your story? Oh oof okay so. I noticed it since I was YOUNG. I always thought girls were cute?? I'm AFAB, for the record. But I always figured that was something everyone was into. Then some people were talking about lesbians and such, and I was like "Well yeah, I'd kiss a girl" SO YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW WELL THAT WENT OVER. People asked me if I was gay, and I didn't think I was? I liked boys too! Wasn't until probably high school that I finally settled on "Yeah, I'm bi." and then discovered the whole gender spectrum and being nonbinary and so much just fell into place 3. Have you experienced being misgendered? What happened and how did you overcome it? So I present pretty andro, I think! I don't try to fit a masc/fem scale but like, in person I don't really make a big deal out of it. There was a stretch of time where I went by she/her still, even as a nonbinary. But I switched to he/him about a year ago and it's just GOOD for me. Well.... Someone I really don't like joined the chat where I first decided to go by he/him. They joined, and they bitched to the mods about not liking me, but they called me "she/her" EVEN WITH he/him being in my intro. The mods were friends of mine and corrected them and were DEFINITELY on edge and asked me if I ever went by she/her or if they were purposefully misgendering me. 4. Who was the first person you told, how did they react? I'm pretty sure it was my boyfriend, Eric! They didn't give a shit HAHA, and have been all respectful and everything. 5. Describe what it was like coming out, what did you feel? So I don't actually remember when I told them? But it wasn't a big deal actually. 6. If you’re out, how did your parents/guardians/friends react? Oof so, I don't think I ever straight up told my mom. But I don't really care what she thinks anyways LOL I did have to tell Eric's parents, though! When we were poly and dating our qpp Reina. (Didn't want to explain those details and shit to them). But telling them that meant telling them I'm gay haha. They totally didn't care and have been so welcoming and accepting, i love them so much ;;w;; 7. What is one question you hate people asking about your sexuality? "Why do you need to be polyamorous do you not love your partners does that just mean you want to sleep around you're just using it as an excuse to cheat on your partners" All said from people who don't know shit about being poly. 8. Describe the style of clothing that you most often wear. Oh god this is so boring. I just wear jeans and tshirts xD Nothing special or SUPER GAY. 9. Who are your favourite lgbt+ ships? ROSE/PEARL FROM STEVEN UNIVERSE I don't consume a lot of lgbt media apparently, huh. 10. What does makeup mean to you? Do you wear any? Sometimes! Usually no, though. I like eyeliner most of the time. 11. Do you experience dysphoria? If so, how does that affect you? YES. So with my chest it's more frequent, I also just don't like being as fat as I am. SO that's half my body problems. Bottom stuff is less frequent but usually during That Time Of The Month (Which, I actually haven't had for YEARS, but I started getting again recently, I hate it.) 12. What is the stupidest thing you’ve heard said about the lgbt+ community? "Oh yeah I'm inclusive of ace/aro people in the LGBT community!! You have a chemical imbalance in your brain which makes you just like us!!!" Like.. what the fuck. 13. What’s your favourite thing about the lgbt+ community? I love how we're all THERE for each other! You join a chat, go "Hey I'm gay" and we're like "GAY??? GAY???? GAY???? GAY????" we're like dogs LMAO 14. What’s your least favourite thing about the lgbt+ community? Sick of transmeds and terfs and ace/aro exclusionists and shit, fuck off my blog. Also??? Can we stop making jokes about MOGAI identities and shit??? "Lmao this gender is based on being a special snowflake" cool shut up, let people live damn, it's not that hard to just respect people. 15. Have you ever been to your cities pride event? Why or why not? Nope :c Everywhere I've lived either 1. there wasn't any close to me/I wasn't out, or 2. ITS TOO DANGEROUS TO GO, or 3. I don't have a car lmao. 16. Who is your favourite lgbt+ Icon/Advocate/Celebrity? Lil Nas X, hands down. He's a great dude. 17. Have you been in a relationship and how did you meet? I'm in three right now!! So the first is Eric, we met on an online rp chat website thingy! Second is Chander, we met through a mutual friend and we knew each other like a year then within the span of like two months we started dating and now we live together, 2.5 years later xD Third is Jay! I met him through a kin Discord, we've been friends over a year but it took a few months before we started dating! 18. What is your favourite lgbt+ book? Y'know I don't think I've ever read one. Uhhh... I mean the Black Dagger Brotherhood has a gay couple??? Does that count??? xD 19. Have you ever faced discrimination? What happened? Slightly! Most of mine is about being polyamorous. I have people tell me "That's not enough to be lgbt" paying 0 attention to me also being nonbinary and pansexual. Also had people tell me I'm not trans enough to be nonbinary because I don't want to transition. 20. Your Favorite lgbt+ movie or show? One Day At A Time? That's about the only one I can think of LOL 21. Who are some of your favourite lgbt+ bloggers? Uuhhh I don't really follow bloggers. 22. Which lgbt+ slur do you want to reclaim? QUEER and gay itself. People act like "gay" was never used against the lgbt community like, bitch, if Hillary fuckin' Duff has to tell some stupid teens in a PSA to not use "gay" like that, then I'm reclaiming it, shut up. 23. Have you ever gone to a gay bar, or a drag show, how was it? Nope and nope. 24. How do you self-identify your gender, and what does that mean to you? I'm nonbinary! I use he/him pronouns and it pretty much just means I don't wanna be a boy or a girl. I don't mind being called like "You're a good guy" or whatever. 25. Are you interested in having children? Why or why not? Not really? I'm very selfish and self-centered, I don't think I could handle having a child xD 26. What identity advice would you give your younger self? "You don't have to figure this all out right now! You have time! Also, make friends with gay people. They're not some closed community where if you join and you're wrong they abandon you." 27. What do you think of gender roles in relationships? Eh, nah. Like I'm a big "Yeah sure I'll do laundry and dishes" or whatever. But I'd rather share responsibilities! 28. Anything else you want to share about your experience with gender? I've been questioning and trying to identify my gender a lot more and get more specific, but I'm in no rush. 29. What is something you wish people know about being lgbt+? We're just people, man. That's it. That's all there it to it. You don't have to have the same feelings as us, but just give us the right to love and marry who we want, or not do that, or have our relationships look however we want. 30. Why are proud to be lgbt+? I'm proud to be LGBT because it means I'm in a community of people who are accepting and caring. It's like a family wherever you go.
Thank you for the asks <3
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leucoratia · 2 years ago
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My take on JJBA characters’ sexuality (Part 1)
These headcanons are livng in my head rent free anyone feel free to disagree
Includes :Jojos, Jobros and jovillains from part 1 to 3
Part 2 here with part 4 to 5
Please enjoy.
TW: mentions of sex and male masturbation, swearing, not proofred we die like men
PART 1: PHANTOM BLOOD
Jonathan Joestar: Repressed Bisexual/Biromantic
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Just. Yes. My man was born in the fucking 19th century what did you expect. Desperately tries to convince himself that he is very much heterosexual and that pussy is the only thing he likes. Unfortunately Dio exists. And Speedwagon. And maybe Blueford- 
DIO Brando: Pansexual/Panromantic
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I examine canon and elevate it to a higher plane. See: Pucci. Dio fucked this one through and thorough and he very much gives me nonbinary vibes. I’m also convinced his castle in part 1 was just a giant sex dungeon.
 I raise you: DIO does not give a rat’s ass about gender he just wants to shag. He’s interested in ALL boobs. Inclusivity bitch.
Robert.O. Speedwagon: Straight
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I won’t elaborate he’s just fucking straight man.
(A/N: after an enlightening discussion in the comments, I am requalifiying Speedwagon my boy as GAY AS FUCK. Apologies to Jonawagon shippers I did not see the light, but I repent. Keeping the initial headcanon as a memento, but here. Change and growth is real folks).
PART 2: BATTLE TENDENCY
Joseph Joestar: Bi-curious
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Also works for oldseph. He’s actually bisexual but identifies himself as bicurious so we will respect my man’s labels. Slay. Joseph likes men and women and is unaware of the existence of other genders. Don’t worry he learns. 
Caesar is def the one who made him realize that he might like men. Or maybe...one man....rest in rocks Ceasarino
Caesar Zeppeli: Male-leaning bisexual/homoromantic
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We all know Caesar fucks hard. But if gay marriage was legal in 1940 you bet this man would have an italian husband named fucking Luigi or shit and twelve foster kids. He’ll eat pussy sure but the man course is always dick in Italy. He wanted that Joestarussy but rocks caught up to him :((
Suzie Q and Lisa-Lisa: lesbians
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2 in 1 post because I make the rules. They like WOMEN and only got married bcs they’re either repressed (Suzie) or were really just bored (Lisa-Lisa). Anyways slay.
The Pillarmen: GAY
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All three (4 if you count Santana but I forgot about him and am too lazy to re-edit the pic) love MEN. Kars is the king of pillar gays bcs seriously he massacred his entire race and only let men survive instead of perpetuating the species with pillarwomen. Hence he’s officially gay as FUCK and gay married with Esidisi.
PART 3: STARDUST CRUSADERS
Jotaro Kujo: aro/ace
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Ik I ship Jotakak but in my personnal little brain Jotaro is AROACE. This man is immune to the matters of the flesh and generally puzzled by human interraction so I don’t expect him to be interested in romance ever. Wdym he has a wife and daughter? Compulsory heterosexuality!! He wanted a calm and quiet life after the fucking trauma-inducing nightmare that was part 3 and thought that settling down was the way to go but uh. Sorry man. Didn’t work out.
I HC him as sex-indifferent bcs well. I mean I do have to integrate Jolyne in my canon so there. But yeah he would enjoy sex I think but wouln’t ever initiate. He’d just go with the flow. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t jack off enough to break both wrists tho. He hides the sex-drive in his hat.
Noriaki Kakyoin: gay
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Listen. Listen. I know I enjoy all the Kakyoin MILFhunter memes immensely but look at him. He’s a twink. He likes men. I will simply erase this moment with Holly from my mind.
He’s a power gay though (I’m SO tired of ppl hc-ing kakyoin as pissy-baby uwu soft weak boy nah my man breaks BACKS and spits in yo mouth). Anyways yes Kakyoin is a refined homosex enjoyer. Prefers the rainbow flag because it fits his vibe better than the blue one.
Jean-Pierre Polnareff: female-leaning bisexual biromantic
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Polnareff is cursed with bisexuality but gets absolutely NO GAME I’m sorry but it’s facts to me. He gets NO BITCHES, absolutely ZERO PLAY. He may be a flirt but no one wants him (Except Muhhamad-). Likes women more but will not pass on the opportunity to flirt with a cute guy. 
Muhammad Avdol: Demiromantic/demisexual gay
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Muhammad does NOT hit me as the type to fall in love/feel sexual attraction out of the blue. He needs his time. Plus i don’t think he thinks about it all that often. Destiny will do the job yadayada. Only attracted to men though. Women work in ways too mysterious for him to handle. He would start to feel something after like. A year or two of knowing intimately the person (go Jean-Jean we believe in you-). This king will probably ask his tarot before making any moves tho (shhhh he just wants to be sure)
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petoskeystones · 5 years ago
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the good place + coming out
because i just watched all of the good place
takes place while they’re on a Soul Squad mission
“Yeah” Chidi sighs, sitting back in the van Michael rented. “I guess I’m just not really the romance type.” He’s been talking about Simone. Tahani nods from the passenger seat, Michael is driving. 
“Yes, after Larry, and everything, I guess I’ve made up my mind. I’m a lesbian. I’ve always been a lesbian, I guess, but my mom always thought if I found the right man I’d grow out of it. And I am not going to grow out of it. Women really are better in every aspect. No offense, Chidi. MIchael.”
“What does that word mean,” Michael asks idly. “Lesbian.”
Tahani and Chidi are surprised. “Well,” the former begins carefully, “It means that I’m attracted to women. You also could say I’m gay? Or the more science-y term is homosexual. And there are other labels, you know. Like bisexual, pansexual, asexual.”
“Yeah, Michael. Like I say that I’m asexual,” Chidi adds,, watching MIchael’s face in the mirror. 
“Well, up there-” Michael jerks his head up to mean The PLaces, “Some people get into relationships. Romantic, sexual. I just never was really interested.”
“You could label yourself as aroace,” Chidi says. “NO romantic or sexual attraction.”
Michael seems really happy at this. “These are new human terms?”
“Well, newer. In the grand scheme of it all, yes, they’re fairly new.”
“Aro-ace. Michael, the aroace architect. I’m from... Arizona? No. Michael the architect, I’m aroace and I’m from Boston.” He smiles, a little look-at-my-new-human-thing-I-just-learned smile. Tahani grabs her phone. 
“And there are flags you can use, like here’s the asexual flag, here’s the aromantic flag. here’s Eleanor’s bi flag. This is the lesbian flag I use, which is gorgeous,” and Michael is lost in the colors and meanings and when he finally figures out Amazon, he orders flags for the house and for his friends.  
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“And then,” Eleanor finishes her story, “Ro said that they didn’t even like pineapples! We had fought that old lady for nothing!”
“You refer to your friend Ro as ‘they’. Why is that?” Janet asked, She was in the backseat, Eleanor was driving, Jason was spinning a fidget spinner next to Eleanor.
“Ro’s nonbinary. Not a guy, not a girl either.” Eleanor said it casually. 
“Do you have many friends like that?” 
“Well, the gay kids in school kinds clumped up. I say gay, but I mean the gays, the lesbians, the bi kids like me, the trans students. You know.”
“Oh! Like, some of my friends in Jacksonville, they were sometimes girls and sometimes guys? And I had a friend who was dating one of the other dudes in my dance group, but then they broke up and they both quit because they thought it was too awkward. And I like girls but I also liked a few guys, and sometimes I like people who aren’t guys or girls.” Eleanor and Janet looked at im for a second. 
“I do not know, Eleanor, but I will take your word for it. I have heard of being nonbinary but never really investigated more. Would you consider me nonbinary?”
“Yeah, actually, Janet, You would be nonbinary. You can go by she or they as your pronouns, or even he. That is, if you want.” Eleanor looked at Janet, narrowly missing a small sedan on the highway with the truck Jason had insisted on. “You don’t have to label yourself.”
“No. I like it. It helps make me seem more human. But you can still call me Janet and still refer to me as ‘she’.” Janet smiled pleasantly, giving a thumbs up. A tiny pin appears on her lapel, the nonbinary pride flag. Eleanor smiled and high fives Janet, almost crashed, and decided to keep her eyes on the road. 
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