#am i using the eclipse to make lore?

[canadian-tire-real]

Hey, I'm back.

The eclipse was really cool and I liked it!

After the fact, though, I noticed something... strange.

My hair is back to normal apparently?

A photo:

I mean, I'm not complaining about it, but it was still very blue before the eclipse and I'm pretty sure that this is not normal.

Does anyone know what's going on?

Hey, I'm going to watch the eclipse.

I'll tell you guys how it goes!

[yourstrulynobody]

Official designs for my DCA mermay AU :3! Comic here if you're interested :D (Getting sidetracted bc sams+eaps lore + writing the Eclipse's Eclipse Twins AU but shhh.....)

(info + w/out effects ver under cut :3)

I may or may not have just used "buwan" (moon) and "araw" (sun) to make their species names... (I do that a LOT, so uhh... Yeah :D)

Also, I was struggling SO BADLY with Moon's nightcap/hat because I had no clue how it should look?? So I just based it off an Anglerfish and called it a day (it is a common design choice after all soo ye :3) + their eyes are like that, yes! Since when I gave them normal eyes, it looked weird on them (Ｔ▽Ｔ)

Though not related, Sun and Moon will be referred to as brothers in this AU :)!

Eclipse's design will be revealed after I post the second part to the comic :)

(I am half asleep as I type this draft out + made the art, so if theres any grammar mistakes... uh, wdym they were never there.... hahahahaha.... im going insane. /silly)

[gh0stvi0lets]

𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘏𝘶𝘯𝘵,

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𝘴𝘶𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘳𝘺. You gave him the break he needed.

𝘱𝘢𝘪𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨. Sam Winchester x reader

𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴. +18 smut, explicit sex (mdni).

𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵. 653

The motel room smelled like aged wood, whiskey, and salt rounds — the usual trappings of a Winchester stakeout. You sat cross-legged on the foot of the bed, flipping through a local lore book while Sam paced behind you, his long fingers tapping anxiously against the edge of the dresser.

“This thing doesn’t match any wendigo patterns,” he muttered, eyes scanning the screen of his laptop. “But the burn marks on the victims—it’s too controlled to be a demon.”

You didn’t respond at first, too busy staring at the curve of his back beneath that flannel. Even stressed, Sam was devastating. Broad shoulders, furrowed brow, hair falling into his eyes—he looked like a Greek statue cursed with a savior complex.

“You’re staring,” he said, not looking up.

You smirked. “So are you.”

He finally turned to face you. “I’m trying to figure out what this thing is, y/n. And you sitting there in your tiny shorts isn’t helping.”

“Well, if I am a distraction,” you said, closing your book, “maybe you need a break.”

There was a beat of silence. The tension that had been bubbling under the surface since you’d arrived in town finally snapped taut. Sam stepped forward slowly, letting the laptop fall shut. His voice was lower now. Rougher.

“You want me to take a break, sweetheart?”

You nodded. “I think you need one.”

Sam was on you in two strides, hands gripping your waist as he pulled you up into a kiss that was all teeth and heat. You moaned against his mouth, fingers sliding under his shirt to feel that toned stomach you’d been imagining since Kansas.

He walked you back against the wall, grinding into you as he pinned your wrists above your head.

“I’ve been patient all week,” he murmured, lips brushing your jaw. “And you’ve been teasing me since we left the bunker.”

“Wasn’t teasing,” you breathed. “I was waiting for you to make a move.”

He chuckled darkly, his large hand keeping your wrists firmly pinned while the other roamed your waist. His mouth was at your neck now, biting and kissing in rhythm with your racing pulse.

“You always say the right thing,” he muttered, freeing your wrists long enough to slide your shirt up and over your head. His hands returned to you instantly — one bracing your hip, the other tracing a path down your stomach.

His mouth followed the trail, kissing lower, slower, until he was on his knees in front of you, looking up with those smoldering eyes.

“You always taste so fucking good when you’re desperate,” he said, and before you could reply, his tongue was between your thighs.

You whimpered, legs trembling, the cool wall behind you contrasting the inferno between your legs. Sam didn’t let up. He licked and sucked with maddening precision, using his fingers to spread you open and tongue you until your knees gave out.

“Please,” you moaned, desperate for his touch.

He rose smoothly, one hand wrapping around your throat — not tight, just possessive.

“You gonna come for me?” he whispered.

“Y-Yes, Sam, please—”

And with a few more strokes of his fingers, you shattered against him, crying out as pleasure crashed through your core. Sam kissed you again, hungry and demanding.

Then he picked you up, carried you to the bed like you weighed nothing, and unbuckled his belt.

“You think that was intense?” he said, voice hoarse with need. “I’m just getting started.”

A Few Hours Later…

Your legs still trembled when you tried to stand. Sam was sitting at the edge of the bed, shirtless, laptop back in place on his thighs.

“I figured it out,” he said nonchalantly. “It’s a fire wraith. Only comes out during lunar eclipses.”

You stared at him, utterly spent. “You figured that out after three rounds of mind-blowing sex?”

He smiled, smug and soft at once. “Told you I needed a break.”

୨ৎ tags: @bowbowrry @mostlymarvelgirl @littleladydemon

[hellequinist]

ok had some proper time to digest whatever the fuck happened in the world of ghost so. yapping/rambling session because perpetua and copia already foil each other so much just solely based on designs and im losing my marbles

ive seen some miscellaneous thoughts floating around so some of them may be echoed here but. yeah

im especially going insane over the potential sun/moon dynamic shenanigans we can get here… copia’s colors are blue and gold (apologies, i don’t know specific colors) whereas perpetua appears to be purple and silver. now, gold and silver have obvious relevance, both being metals commonly used for jewelry and whatnot. blue and purple, however, are more interesting choices. typically, sun + moon shenanigans are represented w/ blue and yellow, so having purple instead is a Choice. yet, it fits — especially given the shades they’re wearing, purple can represent the night sky whereas the blue can represent the daytime sky. combine that with the metals, you get the sun/blue sky and the moon/night sky. a lot of copia's little designs on his outfit resemble stars as well.

and this especially comes into play w the eclipse shown during the rhrn montage when imperator sees her life flash before her eyes. i saw a comment somewhere suggest that this could represent perpetua eclipsing copia, or surpassing him.

and then in addition, we have perpetua’s cool ass metal gloves + metal looking mask too. like yeah its a half mask bc its toblerone but also like. having a mask on skull paint which already should be kinda masking half ur face is. An Interesting Concept and i definitely think theres more to be said about it... almost like double masking in a sense??

a lot of the glittery stuff on copia also feels equally distributed across the entire design, whereas w perpetua it's really concentrated on his specific accessories/jewelry. like copia's entire outfit is Sparkly As Fuck...

shoutout to my friend (@galaxy-of-me) for pointing this out but even their face paint differs in the balance between black and white. copia’s facepaint is mostly all white, with the black being used to distinguish the little jaw bones or lack of them in skeletons. however, perpetua’s black skullpaint has the opposite effect. it highlights kinda the “main” parts of his face (and helps to highlight the mask).

also the design of their clothes is interesting. like, copia's reads w more circles/curves whereas perpetua's feels more rigid and sharp. something something shape language. it also stands out to me how copia's has like. a solid blue that's divided on the front of his chausible by black whereas perpetua's is just solid black solely divided in the middle by purple. this is also seen w the mitres...

ok and. back designs from that really quick camera shot we got. idk what colors it's gonna Specifically be but you can already see some kinda lace thingies on perpetua which is cool... like i'm not sure if this is a cape of sorts (since copia's is more of a cape) so idk if it's fair to draw Exact Comparisons here... but on another note the lappets/ribbons from the mitre are also diff. copia has star looking things (again) whereas perpetua's are more rounded/oval shaped (sun and moon content AAAAUUGHHHHHHHH).

and then in regards to lore like. if we assume that satanized really is perpetua's backstory (I HOPE IT IS!!) it would make their backstories like. Very Opposite. i think it's commonly believed that copia grew up in the clergy or wtv under sister, but then this would mean perpetua possibly grew up in the catholic church or in an abbey of sorts. so, already they grew up in different environments and thus have different viewpoints on a Lot of things. i am SO excited to see how this is gonna play out oh my days

[immortaledd]

ASKS FIXED / OPEN!

I might’ve forgotten to turn my asks on when creating a new blog.

Excuse my idiocy.

If you have previous questions I haven’t answered but still want to see, feel free to flood my inbox and I will get your requests out when I can!

Additionally

#Eclipse’s Maintenance -> The tag I’ll be using to make fixes on my blogs, updates on where I am, or any problems I’m struggling with technology wise that interfere with my blog!

#Ruin’s Announcements -> The tag I’ll be using to make any announcements about myself or other issues that interfere with me!

I read EVERY SINGLE ASK, even if they’re not answered! I typically won’t answer sweet greetings (because I’m terrified of being shadowbanned…AGAIN.) but I’ll try to get to all questions about lore, rants, my thoughts, etc!!

[raven-at-the-writing-desk]

⭕️👋Hi I’m new, I really like your character analysis, world lore analysis etc,…I think they’re very accurate and provide more insight into the twisted wonderland world,

do you think NRC gets enough funding cause they’ve been losing to RSA for like almost 100 years now and the Magift incident where the recruiter’s and scouts probably didn’t really pay attention to most of the players cause of Malleus .I know they probably get funding and tuition and stuff from affluent parents who care about the quality of education & environment of their children but is that really enough? Is Crowley secret Stressed about funding cause of their losing streak to RSA???

I just wondered what your thoughts were on the matter

Hello and thank you very much ^^ It always warms my heart to hear that people enjoy my more analytical writings!

Now to answer your question, I don’t think NRC is hurting for money. Like, at all.

You did bring up a fair point about NRC’s almost a 100 year loss streak to RSA + the lack of interested Spelldrive/Magical Shift scouts in book 2, but that’s not enough of the big picture. RSA is only one rival magic school out of several. Just because NRC is not doing well against one other school doesn’t mean that NRC is suddenly deemed “lesser”—NRC is still considered a top arcane academy and eclipses other magical institutions like Noble Bell College.

In regards to the pro recruiters, I don’t think it has a huge impact?? Sports is only one sector at NRC; they’re still doing relatively well outside of it, such as in academics, extracurriculars, and connections for internships in the grand scheme of things. (Vargas actually does state in Vargas Camp that NRC is still an "athletic powerhouse" and has been "rocketing up the ranks in our division". This indicates to me that NRC is dominating against other arcane academies, but just falters with RSA specifically.)

Update: Trein states in his vignettes that NRC is falling behind RSA in academics, which isn’t great news—but again, RSA is but one school for comparison. NRC still ranks above several other magic schools. Things like not winning VDC and not being noticed by scouts seems to only really impact the career prospects of students who were interested in the entertainment/sports industries (and even then, I still think there would be recruiters interested since NRC is still a top performer, just perhaps not THE top performer); I doubt that this would seriously hurt whatever funding NRC is receiving.

Night Raven College is a private school, so they are most likely receiving money from tuition and not the government. Though tuition is not explicitly mentioned in TWST (at least not that I am aware of), if we assume the average cost for one student to attend a British boarding school—for which NRC is modeled after—that means 25,000 pounds per person, PER YEAR. Let us assume that NRC had only 800 students (this is the rough estimate TWST provides us). That means, from one year’s worth of tuition alone, the school is raking in 20,000,000 pounds or 4,058,310,000 madol. Note that this is just money in, not yet factoring for expenditures, taxes, etc.

The school also receives 10% of Mostro Lounge’s proceeds, and while we cannot put an exact number to that, we do know that most menu items range from 600 to 1500 madol. The lounge must also make significant enough money to pay for its ingredients, nice silverware (something which Azul stresses to give customers a high class experience), and even provide pay to workers (Ruggie would not be doing labor for free and refers to his time at Mostro Lounge as “a job”; see: his Ceremonial Robes vignettes). While this doesn’t make up a large part of NRC’s money, it’s still a nice little bonus to account for.

NRC also has many, MANY wealthy students, including literal celebrities and royalty. In fact, the upper middle class to flat-out rich make up the majority of the main cast (close to like 70-75%). If this is also the case for the regular mob students, then there are many other ways for the school to get huge donations. In the main story alone, two significant donations are mentioned: Kalim's dad gave enough money for NRC to completely renovate Scarabia and the Shroud parents paid for all the damages caused to the school's buildings. Additionally, Crowley says that the Shrouds made "substantial contributions toward expanding [NRC's] facilities."

Please note that this is just donations from current students’ families. Think about potential donations coming from NRC alumni too!!

It should be noted that NRC has the financial power to spend liberally, and no one really says that this will put the school in a touch spot. For example, all students are provided free uniforms (school, dorm, PE, robes, labwear, etc.; even the birthday outfits are said to be provided by the school), but they have to pay for replacements if they fuck up their first one(s). Crowley literally buys up Sam's entire stock of goods during Ghost Marriage... and if you know anything about Sam, it's that he can magically keep things "IN STOCK NOW!!" Crowley even indicates in one of his voice lines that he is in constant competitions to buy out Sam's stock and has scarcely managed to one-up him--so the fact that Crowley does buy out Sam during an event is meaningful and speaks to how much of the school's money he is throwing to save it. He also tells Sam to bill the school for the cost of the fairy dust in Fairy Gala.

Both times, Crowley complains about how he would rather not spend money, but he does so anyway. This in of itself does NOT prove that NRC is in need of money, this is just proof of Crowley's cheapness. (We see many other examples of this greed and stinginess of his; he guilts Yuu for spending money on them, constantly tries to get free food and souvenirs from his students, and cuts costs for Halloween candy.) If NRC were truly hurting financially though, then they would not be able to throw lavish events or donate back to the community, both of which still happen multiple times. For example, NRC holds a huge Halloween event every year in which they open their campus to outsiders. This event is entirely free and involves a budget large enough for each dorm to create intricate decorations and costumes for 800ish students. There is also enough money to throw a celebration party for the students at the end of it—and let’s remember, NRC has the money to afford five star ghost chefs to regularly cater, serve in the cafeteria, AND teach their Culinary Crucibles/Master Chef courses.

While explaining the nature of the Halloween events, Crewel cites that NRC has survived this long in part due to the "While explaining the nature of the Halloween events, Crewel cites that NRC has survived this long in part due to the "understanding, cooperation, and subsistence of Sage's Island locals." This implies that the immediate community on the island also supports NRC in some ways. Perhaps it isn't financially, but it's clear that NRC still has social capital and a good reputation in spite of its losses to RSA.

In Port Fest, Crowley states that setup, food supplies, and all other expenses will be covered by the school. Half of the proceeds will then be donated to charity and the other half will be granted to the students to celebrate their hard work. Again, would NRC be giving away this money if they really needed it for the institution itself? They're not obligated to give money to the students, yet Crowley easily agreed when Azul asked for an incentive.

And let's not forget the school cultural festival, which was largely open for the public to attend. If they choose to spend on additional things (such as food and drink or VDC tickets, which are a "hot commodity"), that's on the individual. The school itself is hosting the event for free.

Yuu is offered a large sum of money (if the NRC tribe wins VDC)... and Ramshackle renovations (from Crowley) in book 5 in exchange for letting the boys host their training camp in their dorm. Look at how old and run-down Ramshackle is; there is no doubt that such repairs would be pretty expensive—but Crowley doesn't complain about the cost, he's not above bribing someone to make himself and his school look good.

Crowley caring about his reputation isn't new either, it's a pattern. We see him getting upset at NRC's loss in book 5 and lamenting bad publicity/being excited about good publicity in numerous events (Ghost Marriage, Wish Upon a Star, etc.) The school has been under his care for a long time, so naturally he will feel proud and/or slighted whenever NRC is involved.

This leads me to the conclusion that Crowley, the figurehead and headmaster of NRC, and his own personality quirks are being misconstrued as an indication that NRC is in a bad financial spot. His own fixation on triumphing over their rival school, acquiring and maintaining material goods for himself, and wanting positive attention do not reflect the state of the school. Notice how no one but Crowley whines about the financials and how while Crowley still complains about spending money, he has no qualms with spending lavishly himself on school events and holidays. This means NRC has money to spare, but Crowley is just stingy about how those funds are allocated.

[pixelchills]

Chill's ramblings about the DCA fandom and personal feelings and issues towards TSAMS (both positive an negative):

(I'm writing this like an essay but treating it like a diary, so if I jump from subject to another, it is because I am just typing as the thoughts hit my head. Sorry for being so wordy.)

I simply feel like I need to write my thoughts down, so why not share them with you. Maybe you can validate my feelings or something, I don't know.

Intro:

So, oof, I got a fic rec from @thedenofravenpuff and I'm loving it so much I really wanna draw fan art for it...

But the problem is that it's a TSAMS fanfic and I've sworn to my name I'll never draw anything related to the show because that will make me engage with a part of the fandom I'm not comfortable with.

My biggest issue with TSAMS:

I have such complicated feelings towards the show and its fanbase and I do not wish to make my life and work more difficult because of it as it already is.

My own work and characters are already constantly being compared to TSAMS. When I first introduced Solar to my fic, he was constantly being referred to Eclipse from TSAMS. Now that the show had a character with THE SAME NAME, it has been even worse.

Dolldrop Moon has been compared to Lunar. Even though the dolldrops existed before the youtube channel was even created (and Lunar made his debut much later).

The biggest issue I've had has always been the fanbase, that takes the show as the canon for Sun and Moon from FNAF and uses it as an excuse to harass shippers like me because they think Sun and Moon are brothers.

I've first handedly seen the damage the fanbase has done to some of my friends who draw, or have previously drawn art for the show besides their own AUs and personal headcanons of Sun and Moon as lovers. I'm sorry to tag you, but @kriimhild and @fablekitty : I've seen how the immature side of the show's fans have treated you, I am so terribly sorry you've had to defend yourselves over and over again for things that were not meant to be mixed up.

I have posted some ideas of a possible Animutant Moon and Sun forming a polyamorous relationship with Solar in the future of "My Dear Daffodil" on my personal/adult Twitter account. Someone kept commenting on my posts that I was glorifying incest, because Sun and Moon were brothers and Solar was their cousin.

The post had "Animutant" in it. Not "TSAMS". These comments came from a person saying they were 19 in their profile. So it's not just kids who can't tell not every fanwork is about TSAMS. It's starting to be some adults too.

Vice versa I've had another person comment on my very clearly SFW Twitter how they're following me because I am an adult artist who draws TSAMS incest. I have never drawn TSAMS art. I ship Sun and Moon, but they're never related with family bond, because I love presenting them as lovers.

Why I ship Sun and Moon:

Because I am a hopeless romantic. I love romantic love. Every single story I write is always about love.

The only exception to this is the Poppy Playtime comic I am doing. But even then, I was originally planning for a romantic love between Dogday and the Player. Yet, I decided to leave it, and keep the relationship open for any type of representation the reader themselves will prefer.

I used to watch The Sun and Moon Show when it first started airing. I loved their playthroughs. I had a big distaste for them calling each other brothers, as well as some of the first "lore" videos they had. My biggest issue at the time was how Moon treated Sun, though. As someone who grew up with an abusive sibling, it sometimes just hit a bit too hard at home.

But it got better after Eclipse and Lunar appeared. Moon was more caring, and I started to really like his character development. There was one episode where Sun explained to Lunar that he and Moon had simply just "decided" to be brothers, despite not having a canonical relationship.

This actually made me really happy. Because the Old Moon was aroace, the love he felt was simply never meant to be romantic, but platonic. And by making Sun his brother by choice clearly indicated that Sun was always the one he loved the most - in a way that was suitable for aromantic person like him.

And it really made me enjoy the show for a while. Sun is my favourite character, and despite not always liking the way the show presents him, I always feel so much love for him, no matter the AU he is in. So I loved that Moon loved him more than anything, even if it was just platonic. Because I've always been under the impression that the canon Moon loves Sun, and is only under a virus to protect him. For me, the best part of any Sun and Moon AU is to know that Sun is the most important thing to Moon.

Why I stopped watching TSAMS:

And then that Moon I had really started to like, who loved Sun more than anyone else but just platonically, died.

It hurt so much I simply stopped watching the show. I've watched a few episodes here and there after that, but I am having a hard time liking the show the same as I did before.

Partially it's because of the fanbase. Partially it's because I don't find the lore very interesting and some of the stuff a bit repetitive. Partially it's because I am scared to see Sun eventually crumble up into madness, because he has been through so much.

I like the New Moon. He is funny and nice, what I've seen. His relationship with Solar has been interesting, and I genuinely hoped they would've been able to take the romantic route after Moon said he wasn't sure if he was aroace anymore. But as I said, I've only watched a few episodes after the old Moon died, so I don't know either of their characters that much to form any strong opinions about them. I just listen to the Monty and Puppet podcast once in a while and get a little inside to some of the lore that has been happening.

But hey, at least there's fanfics. Which is why I am rambling here today.

Fanfics:

It is a rare treat to find Sun x Moon fanfics that aren't simply just porn, or do not include reader inserts. So since my romance-filled brain needed something to fill the void, I've started reading some TSAMS fics with romance (that wasn't between Sun & Moon) and plot in them.

I know Solar was settled to be a "cousin" to the weird family tree of TSAMS. But I simply crave for Solar and New Moon to be at least queerplatonic. Solar is not from their dimension, no matter how much they decide they're 'cousins' it doesn't make him their real cousin or relative because they're not from the same world.

Sun and Moon are brothers but they technically gave birth to Eclipse, who then created Lunar so Eclipse is technically Lunar's parent and then brother and Lunar is Sun and Moon's brother and... do you see what I'm trying to say?

The family tree is so complicated that I don't think I'm a horrible person for shipping Moon and Solar and reading fics about them. Tell me if I am wrong though.

The FIC that is making me question everything:

So Puffy recommended this fic by @theinfamousdoctorf , "Eclipse Meets His Match".

I'm currently on chapter 40, and I am genuinely surprised how much I am liking this fic so far. It got everything; redemption and character growth, the representation of Sun as the good, glowing angel he is in my mind (for canon, and every AU. He is always perfect in my eyes I love him can you tell lol), slow-burn romance, drama, excitment, plot, jokes and funny moments... even if there are a lot of mentions of sex and sexual pleasure, it doesn't feel out of the place as there is so much more to it too.

Eclipse's redemption to become better and realising he is in love with Sun has been so interesting to follow. Sun deserves the love. I love when Sun is getting loved. I literally ship him with every other animatronic in the games and love it when people ship him with their self-inserts and OCs. Because I love him so much I want him to be loved in every possible universe he is in.

Even bigger bonus to this fic is the second pairing, Solar and Moon, which I already opened up about above. I don't know how much the fic is truthful to the canon lore of the show, but I wish to pretend this fic is the canon now /hj.

I love the characters and how they're written. I love the descriptions of their flaws and hopes and dreams. How vulnerable they can get. How closely they stick together. And as an appreciation for making me tearful and excited about fanfiction in such a long time, I would hope to be able to gift the author some fan art for their fic.

But I've sworn to not draw anything for the show. For my own good. I've got too many awful comments already from the fans of the show despite never doing any art for it. I am just scared it will turn things worse.

End words:

I don't know if creating a new alias would be the right choice. So my main name/account would be spared from the confusion that the show's fans seem to stirr into, where one tsams artwork turns all of the artist' work into tsams.

I don't care if the art style would be recognisible. The artist would be me, but not PixelChills. Just so I could gift something to the author of this fic that is currently saving me from the boredom of being unable to write my own.

Thank you.

(This text has been typed on my phone, so pardon for any typos).

-Chill

[foundmars]

Alright time for another dca theory rant at early am... bc im tired of the community sleeping on the dca lore implications and not talking about it.

So today I was playing Security Breach, I recently finished my first run and working on getting afton ending and/princess ending. And being the completionist as i am, i go to all the areas to get all the gifts and bags with notes. But some caught my interest.

I was going underneath the backstage tunnels (the ones where you see the "Freddy you're supposed to be on lockdown" scene with Vanessa) and i found a little ally you need Montys claws for, as i do, i open them and to find a small room filled with twisted looking trees and branches with a projector in the middle of the room to a large screen upon orange tarp covering circular objects. I find it more strange because it first reminded me of the Dredbear games in Help Wanted vr games, then it reminded me of Fall Fest but also of the theater room in the pizzaplex. Weird right? Well the present on top of the projector was a Sun figurine.

Does that count as Sun being more connected with Fall Fest? Far fetch for something of a vague room but it was just odd to put something like that in there.

Then as I got lost adventured along the hallways, I found the area were you get chased by Monty, Chica, and Roxy in those misty hallways near those same tunnels. Well. I found another Monty claw access room where it looked familiar. It was the same or VERY similar layout as the frankinstine mini game in Help Wanted VR where you put the bot pieces together. It was literally the same room. tvs, conveyerbelts and all. And thats where I found the Moon figurine.

And typically you find these character figurines in related areas, like alot of chica stuff will be in the kitchen or her bakery, Roxy stuff in raceway or near any chase sequences. Stuff like that, its relevant, it makes sense. So why put Sun and Moon, one of the most vaguest characters (that has collectable items mind you, i dont see any vanny or music man plushies anywhere) in spots that reference completely something else but also familiar to the player/fanbase?

Also, now knowing what we know now about fall fest? We have seen a lot of references to it at this point and who is the recurring character to show for it? Sun and Moon.

Moon (physically) in carousel games in Help Wanted 2

Sun (as a voice) in first carousel game as announcer in Help Wanted 2

Jack-o-moon in carousel on fire in Help Wanted 2

Jack-o-moon in secret level of Foxy's ride in Help Wanted 2 (and i point this out as like a maybe thing, I know this was in the Plex but i can also see this as a carnival game, but also, why Jack-o-moon? his clothing and look is so vintage, it would be more accurate if it was just moon because he was chasing us through the plex, not this jack-o character)

BB World arcade. It takes place in a carnival as well. And as one of the few playable minigames thats even tucked away and hidden that takes alot of effort to get to, has to mean something. You have the Sun and Moon in the background starting with Sun happy, then goes to Moon whos mischievous and evil looking, then back to Sun who looks mad and so on. Thats also where we make our first impression on Eclipse. Well maybe not so much its Eclipse...

When you follow the glitch line in the BB world minigame, what happens at the end? We found that the creepy looking sun/moon replacement covers the screen and prompts in purple "good night". We deemed this sprite Eclipse. Which fair. Thats what we knew at the time. Look at it again. Please. It does not look like Eclipse. It looks like Jack-o-Moon better. It has the correct coloring compared and even has an odd mouth coloring like who we see in Help Wanted 2 than to the Eclipse we see in Ruined. So the "Eclipse" we see in not Eclipse, it is Jack-o-Moon. Which makes sense because that may the dca was at the time of Fall Fest was.

Everytime we see Fall Fest, its Jack-o-Moon (vise versa).

I hope this made some slight sense or you saw where I was going with this because Im actually loosing my mind.

[llamaisllama777]

Femnaf theory: Eleanor's secret/what Fazbear wants with Eleanor?

So, y'all know Eleanor? This lady?

In case you don't, Eleanor was introduced in Femme nights at Freddy's as a replacement for Roxanne since Roxanne is now Roxas, but she's more of a security bot less of a mascot more of a spy/monitor

Now, at first, I didn't know/remember who Eleanor was. I thought she was an original character they made for the show, but it turns out Eleanor isn't a original character. We've seen her before.

If you're deep in regular fnaf lore you'll know Eleanor by a different nickname perhaps and where we've seen her before

GIRAFFE BABY!

From the Fnaf story: To be beautiful

A brief recap:

In the story, Eleanor/Giraffe Baby is found in a junkyard by a little girl named Sarah. Sarah takes Eleanor home and cleans her off, and turns her on. Eleanor and Sarah quickly become fast friends, and all is good... for a while.

Till Sarah makes the mistake of telling Eleanor that she wishes she was more beautiful and Eleanor says she can help.

Eleanor gives Sarah a necklace and says it will make her beautiful.

As the years go by, it seems that the necklace does its thing, making Sarah look more beautiful as she ages changing parts of her. She dislikes, making her more beautiful.

But once Sarah hits high school, something causes her necklace to fall off, and it turns out the necklace wasn't making her beautiful it was just hiding the truth...

(I am so sorry for the terrible quality. This is LITERALLY the only image of this I could find on Google)

Sarah was becoming more beautiful because Eleanor had been replacing parts of her while she slept over the years.

By the end of the story, Sarah completely falls apart on the way home, trying to get to Eleanor. Eleanor takes the necklace from Sarah's now broken trash body and takes Sarah's form!

Becoming her!

Then, she tosses the real Sarah in the trash, leaving her to be forgotten like how Eleanor was.

Messed up, right?! But now you're probably wondering what this has to do with Femnaf's Eleanor? Surely, these two Eleanors aren't the same right?

...

Right?

Theory: Eleanor has a darkside!

Now, I'm not saying Eleanor is evil, I don't think she is, she done too much for everyone at this point to actually be evil.

I'm thinking she may have a Jekyll and Hyde situation like Sun with Eclipse

Eleanor is natural a good person and wants to be good, but she has a dark side she may not even remember nor know she has or has a small idea she has something wrong with her.

Reasons I believe this?

1. Eleanor mentions in the episode "Moonie's lost love" Eleanor mentions that she's been recycled a few times and has actually been around the block longer than the others think.

2. In today's episode "Fazbear hunts Chico and Roxas" Eleanor mentions that she has plans in case the worst thing happens to her.

What worst thing, Eleanor? What could possibly be so bad you need to plan like you're Batman for the worst-case scenario???

3. Them sticking Eleanor in the security room is such an odd thing? She looks like she's designed to be out there with the other animatronics. She was made to replace Roxas, so why stick her in security? It's a little odd to give her roller skates when she's never meant to leave the room?

(Maybe to get to cameras faster but still)

4. Why would Fazbear take Eleanor at the end of today's episode?

Why not take Freddie or Sunny or Clypse/Cylpso? Someone who would have actually seen and be around Roxas the most? Why take Eleanor?

My theory: Fazbear knows that Eleanor has this dark side and Eleanor doesn't really know!

She has an idea something is wrong with her but she's not sure what.

That's how Roxas caught that virus, that's who attacked Cylpsy, that's why they shoved Eleanor in the cameras, that's who's mean shoving hidden cameras everywhere.

It's Eleanor's dark side.

Fazbear is using Eleanor as a sleeper agent to keep taps on the animatronics/keep them in line, but she's gotten too close to these animatronics, so now they're gonna trigger her evil side to help them find Roxas and Chico

Tl;Dr Eleanor is a sleeper agent for Fazbear, and she knows something is wrong with her, but she isn't sure what Fazbear is using her to keep the animatronics in line.

But hey, that's just a theory...

A FEMNAF THEORY!!!

Thanks for reading!

[daka-d3monb0y]

Monty Redesigns

I can't pose to save my life

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More below:

🐊 Prior Designs 🐊

Most Lore talk at the bottom

I didn't even plan to get them new snouts, I was just laying here bored and decided to experiment. I love them so much.

I made each of them have a different eye color, because I thought it'd be cool.

I'm doing the same thing to other designs. LaES Earth has green eyes instead of Terra's blue eyes, Lunar has yellow, you get it.

Monty (SaMS) / Old Design

Monty doesn't have two male and female bodies they switch between, they just have this one. Because I am far too emotionally unstable to spend hours attempting to create extremely canon Glamrocks.

(Especially when I have a rule in Gacha where I can only use one character model. Because I do actually want to make videos, tho I haven't in probably years by now.)

I like my *stylized* animatronics I'm doing rn. It doesn't feel like copying the source material but being inspired by it and creating my own world around it.

Older designs I've done the Mohawk differently, but I wanted it to be more like the female form's hair because it's cool and I'm leaning more towards genderfluid.

Monica (EaPS) / Old Design

Can't remember why I gave her a ponytail. Probably just so I have more hairstyle options to write something like Ballora braids her girlfriend's hair, because that sounds adorable.

My bestie chose the purple boots this time, I think they make her pop more, I love them.

Molly (FFNaFS) / Old Design

Molly, you're probably the design I have the least to say about. I gave you those things you see on cowgirl boots for some reason and that's kinda cool.

I don't know what to do with Molly in my AU. I'll come up with something.

LaES Monty / Old Design

Matty?

I forgot to change the purple shade on this design but I don't wanna go back. I'll fix it later :'D

I want something a bit more genderfluid name for this one, but idk. If anyone has name ideas lemme know in the comments or reblogs.

I went for a totally original outfit for this new Monty. (The others' outfits are directly inspired by outfits Monty wears in show)

My original plan was to make them look more depressing but I still wanted the bright colors so that didn't work out. Idk what their vibe is but I love it.

I decided to add pink into their hair to make it more rockstar/popstar like, but didn't do a really big hairstyle like the others because I want to show this Monty having less energy.

I tried to make their teeth different, like that they had two larger teeth in front then the others. But I couldn't find a way to make that look good. I also tried giving them a missing tooth but I didn't like that.

⭐ Lore:

My AU LaES is in another dimension, but the rest all take place in the same dimension.

Other dimensions haven't been as investigated in my AU as much as they are in canon. Not enough for Eclipse to feel safe / secure enough to live in one. They're mostly a mystery.

Fazbear owns the rights to every animatronic in the pizzaplex, so they have many variants of each. But they want each location to have different variants of animatronics so they can sell more merch. People will want to buy more because they're like collectables and each is different.

They own the rights to other animatronics like Cosmos and Eclipse, even though Fazbear didn't originally create them. (I don't like using the name Cosmos but I feel like I have to now 😅)

I don't believe we know what happened to Sun and Moon yet, but I am going to assume it was homicide code. It made them insane and they had to be decommissioned because they were a threat to others. So in my plot, they aren't exactly gone, but we'll see a ruined SunMoon who's been corrupted and fused into a sorta Total Eclipse personality.

{ Matty(?) was really close with SunMoon, their best friend. So losing them hit Matty(?) pretty hard, and sent them into a depression. They didn't get a chance to grieve before Lunar and Earth came to replace them. Matty(?) is upset. [All the Glamrocks are.] They've distanced themselves from the others and just come off as rude and short tempered. I haven't watched a lot of new LaES but that's what I'm understanding. }

[autemka]

MY ECLIPSE older brother

By my Lore Eclipse was the first try of making Sundrop and Moondrop animatronics, he also could be called as Prototype. He wasn’t released for a long time because Fazber Entertainment got rid of him and left in a trash tubes. Vanessa found him and made as her personal animatronic, sadistic, mad, maniac killing machine, as he wasn’t aware and learned how to treat children. He was like that , until he met Autem and realised that Vanessa was using him for her personal toy and slave, he gave up and joined Sun, Moon and Autem even after how he treated them…badly.

Autem was able to fix him with some help of Fazber IT, and I rewrite his code to make him similar to Daycare Attendants. I kept his personality and now I am his official holder. Adding to that, Eclipse is a Glitch Patrol Animatronic. He was broken and somehow got a virus that was able to hack any devise in Pizza Plex, like; if he really wanted he could turn off the light and energy in whole building.

As for the Sun and Moon? Eclipse relates them more like an older Brother, smart, serious, protective older brother. They all getting along slowly, but ended up in good family and PALS relationship, guess who has more friendly and playful fights?~

[ohno-the-sun]

Spoiler heavy fnaf ruin dlc rant up ahead

I am so fucking proud of steal wool they really took every criticism from the original game and fixed it and even added more

Like Cassie actually acts like a human being?? And like her knowledge of the original characters and cute little comments on every item are so endearing there is so much detail going into this.

The fact that they expanded on one of the fan faves Roxanne and giving her a great arc I’m in love I’m so happy

They honestly gave more depth to all the animatronics too like we finally see Bonnie’s design and get and get a taste as to what happened, also that poster Freddy gifted him I’m crying they are so cute and gay I love them

😭😭😭

Also the whole dark ride section with Monty is so fascinating like is that narrative kind of true or is it just fabricated by fazbear inc to cover up the decommissioning of Bonnie

Why replace Bonnie with Monty?? Why not make a new Bonnie model?? With the prototype label on Freddy it may be confirmed that they make multiple models (well we already kinda knew that with Freddies comments but oh well)

Also Freddy?? Like is that our Freddy or a different one?? They very clearly highlighted the prototype label so they want to emphasize it, but then the head is still missing like in the princess quest ending so what is the truth??

Feel bad for chica fans tho she really was sidelined hard

Aaaaa and my baby boys!!! There’s 3 now aaahaga

I was really not expecting eclipse to be the way they were, very… normal? Is that the right word?? Like obviously a little delusional on when the daycare is gonna open again, but in the right mindset of like this child needs to leave this place is not safe. It is interesting to me that both he and Roxy thought that it was Cassie’s birthday, maybe that was the last day before she left the plex? Or maybe that was the day the plex caught fire? Or maybe most depressingly we are playing on Cassie’s birthday so the animatronics have it in their systems what her birthday is and wish her a happy one (if they are in the right state of mind lol)

Some peeps are upset moon is a little too villainous

I think you can still say it was mainly the virus but I would argue even if it’s not the virus I feel like moon is kinda justified here. Like sun has been shutting him away for a long time before this (if the books are to be believed but also in general) so when he finally gets a chance to roam free of course he’s gonna take it. And idk about u but if my alternate personality was constantly trying to shut me out and I finally got control, I probably too would try and keep my control for as long as possible. Also from what I have seen so far, not even moon is all that aggressive? Like he grabs you at the beginning, but I think that’s just his very ineffective way to get kids to sleep and other than that he just kinda stays away

Poor sunny baby is stuck in the ar world 🥺🥺 I didn’t notice at first but yeah everytime you talk to him it’s only in the ar world. And the end part where you switch them out for eclipse if you do that in the ar world, he says not for me it’s for moon.

I will say though I noticed the voice acting for them changed a little this game, like both have a higher pitch and are more goofy sounding? Like more gremlin energy than evil villainy. I wonder if that was on purpose? Both of them sounded more like the other so maybe that was the reason? Interest interest

Also their mouth moves?? Sort of?? That’s so silly to me they have a whole working mouth system and their face mask doesn’t work with at all 😭

Does give me lore intrigue tho cause like why do their mouths move but not anymore?? Did something happen?? Are they just not maintained enough?? They also move outward instead of up and down (at least from what I saw) so is the mechanism different?

Also the way that sun and moon talk about eachother is so interesting. Like moon says the light hurts “us” and sun says “no the other me” like they seem to almost consider eachother more connected than we first thought, like they’re not just coworkers or strangers they are almost like two sides of the same person. It’s very interesting and I wonder where people will take this.

Overall great job I’m so excited to comb through the game and find every little secret (especially regarding the dca) aaaa

Ok ok update moon does have a jump scare but it’s ridiculously hard to get and I’d still argue he’s not as vicious as he was base game. I mention in another post but eclipse being as kind as he is and being (presumably) a combination of both AIs, gives even more evidence moon is supposed to be kind and caring like his posters suggest but something went wrong. Also Cassie’s comments on their plushes show that there were kids who truly liked the daycare.

[pollux-starsz]

introduced my mama to @wyervan's slasher au, guess what

Shes insane for it just as i am (we're so swag) and EEEESSSHHH she is crushing on sun!!! Adores your art sososo much, said she eat it if it were cookies!!

Check the au out!!💗💓 stuff under the cut :3

Was doing a lot of whiteboarding lately! A ton of Kalamela stuff and whatnot, i love her sosos much.

Plus a fun art I did with @su-gu3 with their Slasher OC, Kilonova! I drew the two hanging out together and we're friends so we obviously had to make them be besties😆 they're hanging out while Kilonova crushes over Sun :3c

Yes I did have a vision of the slashy boys fighting over who gets the first dance, more on that below the art😋

Before the dance stuff, the last art piece is actually a much more like- i guess lore like piece hdodndod

The masks that Sun and Moon use plus the blood represents the killings. The heart represents Ethan, because she deep down adores that child.

(Even if she struggles to show it sometimes)

I have a feeewww other versions but they're not finished yet💔😅

Okay dance time! So Crystal Cove holds this little event every few months to raise money for charity ( the owners being a cute old couple aaugghhhh <3)

And Kalamela and basically all the other staff normally work that night to avoid any issues and also to raise support as well. She often doesn't dress up since she doesn't feel like it, that and also theres a few customers who are creeps- im actually writing about that and purposely making her beat their asses- and tries to just avoid the overall commotion and craziness! But the boys wont take no for an answer because she always spoils them so why not give her a night to have some fun eh?

More rambles below :3c

- I was thinking about this a lot but I think at some point she'd have to ask if Sun and Moon could let Ethan stay with them so he won't be witnessing a bunch of bullshit from his father, who sometimes comes over to her place just to start problems. I like to imagine she'll call them at least 30 minutes before he arrives and drives him over to their place to stay for a few hours until things calm down because she knows they'll take care of him!

- Kalamela isn't the type for romance movies, unless it's the Titanic, but I dont even know if that would be out in the very specific year the au takes place in considering it was released in 1997!! Either way😙 She often prefers horror movies and I think she'd really enjoy watching them with Sun, maybe its just so she has an excuse to cuddle up against him or just the thrill of watching some action! Who knowssss~

- She often lets Moon take Mango home for the night, he loves that parrot so much. Which usually gets an "Again?" from Sun because he always watches her whenever he gets the smallest chance.

- She definitely goes absolutely CRAZY on presents for holidays like Valentine's or Christmas for these two. I have a feeling she'd notice that they clearly didn't have the best childhood or ways growing up, and being in a similar situation because her family is extremely religious and she never had any freedom until she moved away, she often tries to make them happy and gets them as many gifts as possible. She spent all her money on them at on point and her only explanation was "I care for you guys a bit too much."

- cough wyervan ever since you mentioned that throwing a rock situation to get it through their heads that Kalamela loves them more than friends I can't help but imagine that she'd ask her friends about how to talk to them and her two friends, (Sprite and Eclipse, both guys, married gay men. They are extremely supportive. Would be great to have a beer with btw.) offer to help her, and eclipse throws a rock at both of them with a note attached to it while she just stands there in absolute shock that he actually aimed for their head. Oh and Sprite had to help Moon hold Sun back from beating his ass. Good times.

- I feel like at some point she would accidentally come across them killing someone and it results in this huge "oh shiiiitttt" moment from Sun and Moon as they drag her away into a more secluded area and then beg her not to tell anyone. (Even though her and Moon already talk about the killings, he still freaked) She doesn't rat them out because she is NOT getting slashed today, but often finds herself contemplating whether she should move and cut contact with them, despite the fact she loves them oh-so dearly!

[duskstarskies]

Hii! Top 5 purple duo moments for the ask game ^_^

HI!!! and YES YES YES GES YES okay i love this sm. this question also gives me a chance to talk about season 3 more. i feel like s4 purples is more established and it’s kinda hard to rlly get them there bc its them in face of conflict, they are relying on their bond built up from former seasons and u can’t rlly evaluate them without knowing that relationship. I really do enjoy the rifts in their relationship tho it rlly confronts them with their flaws and stuff they Dont Really Talk About Ever. (bc they are so ok with just letting things be unsaid. kills them kills them kills them)

also this is not in order if i had to sort this out idk if i would be able to lol…

1 - walking on air in survival minecraft

This very well could be vitalasy’s personal “peak” on lifesteal (talking content not lore) and it’s awesome how much this derails him later on. This is where i think their relationship rlly starts to strengthen and develop, they literally huddle together to comfort each other to prepare to fight the revengers. It’s their first big-stakes plan working together, vitalasy had his dripstone (which subz helped with) but its both of them here since they both died to the revengers. i just rlly loved this video and i rlly loved purpleduo in here.

Also its vitalasy’s baby steps working with bending minecraft rules :3 it makes so much sense for him to escalate the glitches for s4, and why wouldn't it work out, s3 was such a success! 

During s4 deliverance, vitalasy makes an offhand comment about how “we rlly are walking on air” when theyre walking on barrier blocks to the final eclipse base. That's a callback to this. I love callbacks. how much times have changed since then…

2 - s3 deliverance

I kinda chose s3 deliverance bc i dont rlly talk about it ever and a lot of things have been said about s4’s already. And without s3 deliverance we would not have gotten s4’s. so it’s the blueprint!

It’s also very telling of subz and his thing for the past like every single action he does in lifesteal is so influenced by past events. and okay, like duh everything we do is based on past things that happened to us but it’s rlly the most apparent in him bc he directly references back to shit ALL THE DAMN TIME. u can tell how s3 influenced subz to plan s4’s deliverance bc he passes the goal of saving the server to vitalasy…

(in s3 vitalasy’s got this hero thing going on reviving everyone whos been banned, defeating clownpierce. So after he sacrifices all his hearts to revive everyone, he asks subz to ban him, to finish off clownpierece, his original last goal) 

since there’s very little footage and general canon stuff i rlly am out here making shit up. and i LOVE IT!!!!!

also subz fights with vi’s sword instead of deliverance in the final battles of s3 which is. Gugghhhhhhgghhggg.

3 - karaoke

one of my favorite vitalasy quirks is that he’s a singerrrrrrr it’s very endearing to me. and alot of the times subz kinda lets him do his thing yk (vi going, “just the two of usss, we could make it if we tried!” and subz going mhm mhm likeeee). there’s this karaoke stream that only exists in clips and its honestly such a ??? experience bc subz audio is delayed or something and he thinks hes so nonchalant #smh. i like that it was probably 100% vitalasy’s idea and subz just sounds like he wants to die. but he goes along with it anyway. very fun awesome purpleduo dynamic

there’s a canonical lifesteal boyband and vitalasy was lead… that’s also important to mention. there’s also this moment where vitalasy is singing the “l is for the way you look at me” song and he waits for subz to finish the line (the v and e part), subz doesn’t know it so there’s like an awkward silence and vitalasy gets mad at him it’s funny. right after [this clip] (context: zam and mapicc kill him again so hes on 5 hearts) vitalasy starts to sing cupid by fifty-fifty and subz just endures. he’s singing “i gave a second chance to cupidddd, now im left here feeling stupiddddd” with such solemnity it’s like wow… vitalasy you are so teenage girl. and subz is his best friend who can not rly gaf but shes stuck on the phone with him anyway.

and best believe if purples actually sang baby it’s cold outside for the lifesteal christmas album i would not be normal about that AT ALL.

i don’t know if this was a true “moment” it’s kind of a collection of them, i think it’s fun and it’s all the same idea so im counting it :3

4 - the meeting

I was going to make a whole separate post about this scene bc it freaks me up and also it IS THE FIRST TIME SUBZ DOESN’T AGREE TO HELP VITALASY WITH HIS PLANS OUTRIGHT… and he is so so so so scared about it, hes scared of vitalasy, hes scared for zam… I LOVE IT SO MUCH. and one of my favorite screenshots of them ever:

They’re looking at that moon from two completely different perspectives. Vitalasy thinks this is a chance for a “classical team up” while subz is at war in his mind and has the spotlight (moonlight) on him now. I love this scene so much it completely makes subz confront his undying loyalty towards vi and love for zam. which ultimately tears him apart. And him denying to help vitalasy on trapping zam in that box forevers while meekishly going “but u can… if it makes you happy” / “ur not like mad or upset i don’t want to...” / “i feel like if i say no im betraying him” ……………

This is honestly such an awesome awkward conversation between purpleduo and it highlights their differences soooo well u barely ever see purpleduo at odds LIKE THIS EVER i love it

“justice, revenge… they’re very different.” / “i could visit him!” ………Vitalasy.

5 - meow? meow meow meow! kitty4kitty. and also oomf uzukali’s art that i love forever ever ever ever evers

honorable mentions:

“if vitalasy jumps off a bridge im jumping after him” - the reason why i started posting clips of them tbh. like he said that shit so casually and it’s not meant to be that deep but it is. it means SO MUCH!!!!!!! fuck u fuck u fuck u fuck u i hate you itzsubz. (said with adoration)

S4 end fight ^__^ subz knew vi was going to give ro and mapicc the hearts, he was still on his side even tho everyone else thought he betrayed for personal gains. WATCH THIS CLIP RIGHT NEOW. which honestly makes the rest of s4 so damaging bc this kinda shows vitalasy’s goodwill… n how it all turns on him later on. love it so much <3 vitalasy and his big fat stupid heart. also i just love s4 endfight in general, dualities sweeeep (also one of the best ls videos but u didnt hear that from me) (coming from a ls video enjoyer)

Ending minecraft’s deadliest assasin when vitalasy goes “i couldn’t even get myself to trust my best friend…” and its vitalasy asking if subz would betray him. Probably staged but it gets turned around in my head a lot… s3 where they’ve been through a lot already. But this was when nothing seemed hopeful. And they haven’t been through anything that could really tear them apart yet. It’s the doubt that lingers bc they’re still relatively new to each other… big big fan of that video in general.

(edit) oh my god i forgot about reunion. initiation of eclipse… vitalasy coming back after apo/dupe war… ough. and they kiss.

whenever they match each other’s freak. They are not normal about each other

[corals-corner]

I’m going to fucking crash out over today’s episode like WHAT WAS THAT?????????

I’m not surprised Afton had some control over Solar Flare. We didn’t see them fight but I know damn well something happened. Flare was touched by Agony during that battle so Afton having some come control over them but I’m happy he’s was able to fight it on enough to not reveal anything. Sad it made him hurt Nonty and himself, it was so sad seeing him bang his head on the wall and knowing had to shut himself off to stop

Like genuinely when I saw this my heart dropped and I was so scared for them. I want Flare to be safe for once in his damn life

Also, I love Eclipse, everyone knows this.

I need to snap that twinks back like a twig oh my god he’s so fucking stupid I just

I cannot with him rn

This all could have been avoided. Had he killed Mimic, had he killed Eklipse, hell, had he took more measures to make sure Afton was away from others, this could have all been avoided.

Like, I am genuinely pissed at him bc I feel like there were many things that he could have done to avoid him. He’s smart, probably the smartest guy on the planet after Ruin, but his feelings impede him from doing good. He doesn’t know how do real with feelings, so he let what Charlie says get to him. I don’t blame her, she’s like 10(forgot her actual age). Eclipse is smart and he should’ve known that killing Eklipse would be the better choice.

And Mimic. Where do I even start. As soon as I saw that Eclipse was letting him live I knew this was going to bite him in the ass. I know he wanted to torture him but there has been none of that and has only caused more problems for himself and everyone else. I genuinely feel like he’s at fault for most of this.

I’m sorry but Eclipse should have seen this coming, I’m scared for the kids, each of them mean so much to eclipse and if anything happens to them, or even if Afton just says something happened, he would stop thinking logically. He’d be digging his own grave even deeper than he already has

Not to mention that Eclipse has been touched by agony before. Twice in the same hour. It wasn’t him, it was Mimic, but it was Eclipses body. This means Afton could likely have some control over them. This is gonna be really bad. Tomorrow’s the anniversary of the channel(MGAF in general, not EAPS) so we’ll probably find out more about this then.

Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Davis and Flora make us wait another day for a lore update

[patchwork-crow-writes]

Thoughts on the "Kris and Ralsei wielding a sword together" concept art

I know I am like two years late to this party but guys I only learned of this like a month ago let me react to the content ok

This art is fascinating to me, for a couple of reasons.

Long post below the read more!

Firstly, it speaks to the strange connection that Kris and Ralsei seem to share. Between the theories that Ralsei is Kris's old headband, his resemblance to a Dreemurr, and the enormous pedestal he places Kris upon, this is another thread that links these two in an intrinsic way, and suggests they will both have something important to contribute to the story as a whole.

Secondly, what it says about their relationship at the point this might happen. Their equal wielding of the sword seems indicative of an equality between them, which is striking due to the fact that in the lore Ralsei provides, Darkners exist only to serve Lightners, and Ralsei's entire character so far seems bent towards serving his friends any way he can. So the fact that both him and Kris get equal billing here suggests there will come a point in the story where he comes to view himself as equal, rather than subservient, to his friends, and particularly to Kris who he venerates above all others.

Thirdly, what this says about the nature of balance between light and dark. Somewhat related to the above, we can think of Kris and Ralsei as stand-ins for the concepts of Light and Darkness respectively. Typically these concepts are framed in a master-servant dynamic, with dark(ners) serving the light(ners) - or otherwise in an adversarial manner, particularly with the Roaring and the mention of "shadows subsuming the light". But here, there is true equality, and true balance between the two forces. This suggest that light and dark have united to combat a foe that far eclipses the scope and threat of either, whether that is the Roaring, the Angel's Heaven, or something else entirely.

Fourthly, the fact that this is not a happy occasion. Both of their faces are solemn (although Ralsei does look like he's pulling the o_O face a little here) - there are no smiles, this is not a moment of triumph. Something really important is going down, and both of them are ready to do whatever needs to be done here.

Fifthly, the implications for Ralsei's character and the philosophy of Deltarune. Kris wields a sword in combat, but they only use it to FIGHT. We know that the sword can change shape to become a shield, which would fit Ralsei's more pacifistic nature better - however, here he seems ready to FIGHT. Perhaps because he has run out of other options, or because their foe is so great, so powerful, that there is no way to parlay with them as equals.

And sixthly, and most importantly, the direction they are facing, and the object of their focus. Rather than facing rightwards as in a typical enemy encounter, or away from the screen where a larger threat would typically emerge (think GIGA Queen or perhaps even the Dark Fountains), they are facing towards the camera. Further, look at their gaze, how they are staring directly at the screen. Directly towards us, the players.

And so, unless I have failed to consider something, or there's some hidden element we're not currently aware of, I believe this is depicting the moment where Ralsei and Kris have decided to take up arms against the destiny that binds them, to fight against the very concept of control that a player typically exerts over a game's characters. We are too powerful, too alien, to negotiate with - no ACT will satiate our desire to continue playing Deltarune, to push these puppets forwards to see what happens at the very end. And so, these two have no other option but to try and FIGHT us, to overthrow our control and oversight by force.

This is the point, I feel, where Deltarune stops being a game, and we will have a choice to make - to let them win, and assert control over their own destinies once-and-for-all, or to FIGHT back, cement our power over these characters and make them dance to our tune to the story's bitter conclusion.

A bit of a stretch, perhaps, deriving all of that for a crudely-drawn piece of concept art. But those are just my thoughts. I'd be curious to see what conclusions anyone else has drawn from this curious piece of art!