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interstellarsystem · 1 month ago
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You Could Be Median!
We've seen some posts lately where people are saying they feel too plural to be a singlet and too singlet to be plural, or that they feel certain plural-ish ways about their kintypes... And, well, we have news for you--there's (possibly) a word for that!
See, while a lot of people see "multiple system" and "plural system" as interchangable, they actually have nuance to their meanings. And there's a third term, "median system", that might actually apply to you!
Some descriptions of the terms, for reference!
This won't be the only term list in this post, but to avoid dumping a ton of terms at the start without context, they'll show up where relevant. For now, though, here's a few.
Singlet:
The state of being one singular person/identity in one body. Synonym for non-plural.
Plural:
More than one entity, self, identity or consciousness in a single body. Simply, being more-than-one in some way. This is more of an umbrella term for multiple and median.
Multiple:
Having more than one distinct identities or people within a body.
Median:
The state of being somewhere between "singlet" and "multiple" on the plural spectrum.
Now, that's pretty vague, especially if this is a new concept to you! What does "inbetween" of multiple and singlet even really look like? The answer is, well... Anything, almost! But that's also vague and unhelpful. So...
Some examples of what being a median system could feel like...
You're like a metaphorical hydra--all part of one dragon, but there's different heads. You might feel parts of yourself arguing or thinking different thoughts, and some might be more in charge at times than others, but in the end, you're all a part of one unit anyway.
You're like a metaphorical coin--you're all one single thing, but there's different faces. Depending on what angle someone looks at you from, they could see something completely different.
You're like a gemstone cut for a ring--all one stone, but there's facets of you that reflect light just a little differently.
You speak to your subconscious, but because that subconscious is you, you feel like you're an inbetween of being just one person and two people. (This can also include things like daemonism!)
You feel like your identity itself is a shapeshifter (not in a kintype way--your identity as a whole).
You're otherkin/fictionkin/etc, and your kintypes have juuuust a little too much separation from you to feel like they're still you, but they're you enough that they're not separate people. They're not entirely distinct from you, but they're also not entirely wholly you, either. (More on this one later!)
You feel too much like a singlet to be plural, but too much like a system to be a singlet.
You age or pet regress, and feel like your regressed self is a different version of you. Sure, they're still you! But they're just different enough that they fall in a grey area of being "you" vs "not you".
You feel like "you" are, in whole, a person wearing a lot of different masks. The masks might make you act a little different, or look a little to-the-left of your normal appearance. All the masks are a part of you, as much as you're a part of them.
You feel like you sometimes have a different "filter" put over you, like a photo being digitally edited. You're still the same base thing, but sometimes there's an extra layer on top that makes you a little different.
You don't feel singlet or multiple, but feel like a secret third thing that's in any way inbetween.
You feel like you're almost a system.
Now, that's nowhere near an exhaustive list, but it's a bunch of stuff we've experienced and/or heard from others in the community. That gemstone comparison is actually common enough for the median version of the term "headmate" to be a sort of reference to how it feels!
Headmate (also alter, system member):
An entity/person that is a part of a system.
Facet:
A type of headmate that is a part of a median system.
There's also a term for identities that blur the line between "fictive" and "fictionkin", because the experience of being median while having identities that feel like fictives and fictotypes simultaneously is so common! (There's now a factbased identity term for the experience too!)
Fableing:
A type of facet in a median system that shares experiences of both fictionkin and fictives, making them an inbetween, adjacent to both experiences, or both at the same time.
Factling:
A type of facet in a median system that shares experiences of both factkin and factives, making them an inbetween, adjacent to both experiences, or both at the same time.
Otherkinity and Median Systems
In particular though, we see a lot of otherkin who say a lot of very plural-y things about their kintypes. While not everyone who says these things is 100% plural and maybe just one or two of these points to nothing plurality related at all... These are things we think are pretty good indicators you should at least consider looking into median systems, even if you've looked into being multiple before.
Your kintypes can speak or communicate to you, disagree with you or each other, or interact with things separate from you. This doesn't need to include written or spoken language, either! Sometimes internal instincts clashing can feel a lot like median facets disagreeing.
Shifting causes you to experience memory loss, amnesia, or anything similar.
Shifting causes a complete gender change, even if previously and after the shift you disagree.
Shifting causes you to act "out of character" compared to your usual self.
Shifting causes a complete sexuality change, even if previously and after the shift you disagree.
Shifting causes you to want to change your name, even if previously and after the shift you disagree.
You don't feel like you're yourself while shifted.
You get thoughts that you don't feel belong to you, and feel like they belong more to your kintype.
You don't feel too much like you are your kintype, unless you're in a shift. (Also check out fictionflickering/otherflickering!)
Your kintypes do things that you're unaware of while you're shifted.
You commonly dissociate during or before shifting.
Your kintypes change your likes and dislikes (for example, while shifted you might hate apples while when not in a shift you love them).
You'd call your kintypes headmates or you feel like they'd be classified as headmates if you had DID/OSDD (spoiler alert, you don't need those to be a system!)
Your shifts cause a full or very strong personality change--especially if other people notice.
You feel disconnected from your body or lose control of your body while shifting.
You come out of a shift and are confused, distressed, or surprised at how you acted during it.
Like I said, not all of these point toward being median if there's just one or two--but, if you have the time to look into it, I'd recommend giving it some thought!
Misc FAQs
Do I have to call myself a median system if I fit a lot of/all of this?
Nope! Your identity is yours to label, and this post isn't meant to shove people into boxes. This is simply meant to inform people of what a median system is, and let people come to informed decisions themselves.
Can you be both multiple and median?
Absolutely! There's plenty of ways this can be a thing, too. Some examples:
Multiple system with median subsystems.
Median system with multiple subsystems.
A system that fluctuates between median and multiple.
A system with a bunch of headmates who are median or multiple (regardless of subsystems).
You could be both at once, which we've seen called "mediple"!
Can you have a CDD (like DID and OSDD) and be median?
Yep! It's commonly believed that most (not all!) OSDD systems often fall under the median umbrella, even! A system of any structure or origin can also have median members within it, regardless of other parts of how it functions.
Can you choose to be median?
As with plurality in general--yes, probably! We haven't seen any guides to specifically form a median system, but we're sure it's possible. Daemonism, for example, is usually counted as a nonplural experience by their community, as daemons are "you" in another font--for lack of better phrasing. But a lot of people do consider this to be a type of median plurality in their own experiences!
Is this an endo system thing?
No. Endogenic and traumagenic systems alike can both experience median plurality, and can also be disordered or nondisordered. The term didn't even originate in endogenic-specific spaces, nor did it originate recently either. "Midcontinuum" was presented as a term in around 1996-1997, and "median" was created in 2002. Some early plural communtiy mentions of the terms:
Us and Being Median:
This was co-written by a median subsystem (Dagger of Decay) and one of said subsystem’s QPPs in-system (Shrapnel). While we don’t reflect the entirety of our experience of having median plurality within our system, we can share what we personally know of our own life in the hopes that it resonates with others in a helpful way.
Being a median subsystem to me (Dagger of Decay), feels like I’m separate sides of the same metaphorical coin. (At least, that was an accurate descriptor until I discovered more facets than just the two.) You look at this coin, and one side might have a picture of one thing on it, while the other has something completely different–but you’d be wrong if you said that this was two separate coins just because it’s different depending on how you see it or how you hold it. You’d also be wrong in saying that the coin only had one uniform side–I mean, it clearly has different pictures on each side, they’re clearly different!
The faces of the coin are the fableings that make up me as a person. If I really wanted to, I could probably label myself as one person with very strong kintype shifts, but that doesn’t feel like it covers the full scope of my identity. I can’t talk to my facets, I also can hardly ever disagree with them because we’re so close to the singlet end of the spectrum. But even still, when I’m Tomura Shigaraki, I’m not really the other facets of myself anymore–it’s like you’ve spun that coin around and they’re the ones who are face down, hidden from sight for that moment. The same is true for when any other one is in control. The coin just sort of flips itself occasionally and oops! I’m the same base guy, but in a different font. A little bit to the left maybe.
The amount of separatedness between us fluctuates–sometimes I say “I” to refer to all of me, other times we say “we”. That’s one of the more noticeable fluctuations between my facets, but there’s plenty of other things that shift and change too–how distinct we feel, how much we can disagree with each other, how much we feel connected to other identities we hold
 But in the end, we’re solidly sat in the grey area between “one singular guy with no extras” and “multiple guys in one head”--and it took our system a while to get a hold of what that can mean and feel like, so I hope some people who are questioning or struggling with their identity can get a little bit of something out of this post.
For further reading:
The Dragonheart Collective's "Am I plural" guide.
Allium House's "what is the self?" essay.
Endogenic Hub's "Medians" page.
Otherkin Wiki's Plurality page (section on median plurality included).
Beepbird's "Median is More than People With Parts".
Beepbird's "For Medians: Fronting and Switching Control".
Beepbird's entire median plurality links section, honestly.
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deltoradecay · 1 month ago
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hi :) idk if I saw my tags but i saw your post about being a median and it genuinly made me cry
I've never heard of the term before and it is exactly how i feel, not plural but not single, and I'm genuinly gonna cry thank you so much (positive)
AUHG I'm glad it helped someone! Welcome to the median system club!
If you need more info on it let me know, but if I'm remembering right, the "#magicallymedian" and "#median system" tags are some of the most active tags for median systems on here. (Though I'm not sure if I'm only remembering #magicallymedian from like 2017-18 ish.)
Best of luck, congrats on finding a label that fits!
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agentukelele · 11 months ago
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Willogenic Median Systems?
I've been trying to look in willogenic areas to find resources on how to get started, but theres no willo medians. Is anyone out there willomedian? Even subsystems.
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the-indigo-symphony · 2 years ago
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In the style of tags such as #actuallyplural (actually plural) and #magicallymedian (magically median), I think the factive tag on here should be #factuallyfactive (factually factive). It just flows so well!
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endogenichaven · 3 years ago
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Genuine question: If endogenic systems don't form from trauma, then how they do?
(sorry if I sound judging, I learned about this recently and try to understand endogenics)
You're fine! There are many different origins floating about, but from what we've found many of them can be condensed into a few general categories: Spirituality: Some systems come into being through spiritual means- another entity (like a spirit or soulbond) might enter a person's mind or headspace, and take up residence there or learn how to front and control the body.
Created: Some systems are created by a host or original member, or grow through purposeful or accidental creation. A person might put focus into creating a character or entity, and over time that entity develops sentience and becomes a fully-fledged headmate. Born: Some systems believe they were born plural or developed in a manner that led to them becoming plural early in life. This would occur without trauma necessarily causing them to initially split or develop headmates.
Though they're listed here as separate categories, there are many systems that lack a singular formation and it is common to see systems with a mix of origin types, sometimes even for the same headmate. Hopefully this helps!
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recordsystem · 3 years ago
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yo im making a system survey just sorta for funsies and cause im curious to see the results, are there any important questions people would like to see in the survey?
(reblogs appreciated so more people can see this! gonna tag @queerautism​ / @uniquely-plural in case it’d like to reblog this :>)
note this survey will be open to all kinds of systems regardless of origin.
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adorable-abomination · 3 years ago
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obscuregenic: a plural origin that feels strong, stable, and prominent when left undefined, but becomes distorted, unstable, non-existent, and/or changing when attempting to define it.
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eeveecraft · 4 years ago
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Hey, if you can't bring yourself to believe that you're real...
I think you're real. Here you are, reading this message, taking in what I'm saying. To me, that makes you real: you're able to experience the world around you and think about the nature of it.
Just know that if you can't believe you're real, I will for you.
10-15-2021
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fact-anonymous · 4 years ago
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Systems who are bodily "old" - be it senior citizens, or simply above 18, 25, 30, or whatever this site thinks is "too old" - deserve support.
Systems don’t just stop having problems and become selves-sufficient past a certain bodily age. Like singlets and younger-bodied systems, they still need friends, help, and a supportive, safe space.
And people don’t turn into predators the moment they’re 18, 21, 25, 30, or whatever arbitrary age you assign “old” to. That’s not how it works. Predatory behavior is about abuse, about power. Not age. A lot of older-bodied systems are good people.
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Systems who are bodily young - be it under 25, 21, or 18 - deserve respect.
Just because a system is in a young body, doesn’t mean they don’t know anything. They may have less experience or knowledge, true, but they are still worth listening to. Someone’s lack of know-how doesn’t make them less valuable.
And you know, some young-bodied systems are knowledgeable. They want to learn, research, and listen to othersïżœïżœ experiences, they are respectful. Not all of them are misinformed exclusionists/sysmeds who are stubborn and harass/abuse people in the community. That should be appreciated.
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This post and this blog are inclusive of ALL systems, including non-traumagenic, non-disordered, non-diagnosed, and self-diagnosed systems.
- Mod December
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pokemania · 4 years ago
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đŸ‘„ Semi-(System/Plural/Multiple) :: A person who feels like they are “on the cusp” between being multiple and singlet, or feel like they’re only half-multiple/half-singlet/something similar. This is primarily for median/osdd systems that feel like they’re closer to being a singlet than multiple (or vise versa, being a multiple system closer to being a singlet), or people who have trouble distinguishing between being multiple and being a singlet due to other disorders/disabilities, but everyone is who thinks it would apply to them can use it.
✕ Disclaimer :: This definition of semi-multiple was coined by me, but I’m definitely not the first to use semi-multiple! This is also just a term to describe my particular experience with being a disordered multiple system, and other people are not obligated to use it. This is just how I define my experience. This term also has no flag (because I can’t think of anything) but if anyone wants to make one they can.
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interstellarsystem · 7 days ago
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The Median Experiences Tool
We've gone ahead and created a little resource for median systems! Feel free to use this and fill it out in any way you'd like.
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This is also archived in a PDF version on our website here, with the links on the last page being clickable.
The version we (the Dagger of Decay subsystem) filled out for ourselves under the cut as an example!
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deltoradecay · 1 day ago
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We redid our pinned post because we've disovered more facets since last edit but oh my god the tone of the pinned post was so SERIOUS. Which one of us wrote that??? Hello???
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plurelicfiction · 2 years ago
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Now it's my turn to paint
On the canvas we share
My hand is unsteady,
But I'm willing to learn
How to paint a skyline.
Who knew that something
So beautiful
Could come from something
So simple
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osdd-1bitch · 4 years ago
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shoutout to median systems! 
shoutout to median systems who dont like differenting themselves!
shoutout to median systems who are different ages!
shoutout to median systems who are different genders!
shoutout to median systems who doubt themselves because of their medianhood!
shoutout to median subsystems!
shoutout to median systems with amneisia!
shoutout to -1a median systems!
shoutout to median systems who dont fit a medical dx!
shoutout to median subsystems in multiple systems!
shoutout to median systems, yall get ignored far too much.
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the-indigo-symphony · 2 years ago
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I do not begrudge anyone for this because it's a phenomenon that comes from a lack of information, not any kind of malice. But guys, so many of the problems I read about y'all having (including the ones y'all specifically come to me with) are just like "my system is XYZ and does ABC which is unlike all of the other systems we see and idk why and it makes me feel fake" and my buds my friends my fellows that's because you're describing a median system you're a fucking median system comparing yourself to multiple systems no wonder you feel different your system is literally structured differently than the systems you think you have to be like. Please. I'm begging you all. Consider the possibility you may be less separate than other systems and that's okay. You can have headmates that feel like different forms of the same person, and headmates that feel individual but have a shared core identity, and headmates that don't feel like entirely separate beings but rather several different flavors of you. That's okay that's normal welcome to the median gang have some popcorn and chocolate chip cookies.
Again, I don't begrudge any of you for this. You're struggling with something and you have my full sympathy. But your headmates don't need to be completely separate for you to be a system – you can just be median. Please look into median systems.
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xenodelic · 4 years ago
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Thinking about trying out semiplural pronouns due to being apart of a median subsystem. This is a slightly mixed and matched version of some semiplural pronouns we’ve seen!
Ei / Ei'm / Mei / Muir / Muirs / Muirself
(”ay, aim, may, mure [rhymes with ‘pure’], mures, mureself”)
Ei think that sounds really cool!
Ei'm taking my rain jacket with mei to work today.
That's muir favorite candy!
Yes, that rain jacket is muirs, thank you!
Ei handmade that gift muirself! 
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