#mentions of incest

[aromantic-enjolras]

Grantaire is the kind of person who would answer to a "you're like a brother to me" rejection with "there are entire uPorn sections about that, you know" and you can't convince me otherwise.

[danpuff-ao3]

A Minor Problem

At the age of 11, I discovered fanfiction.

It was wholly accidental. 11 year old Danni didn't know what fanfiction was. I was using my allotted 30 minutes of internet time wisely: Googling random Harry Potter stuff (obsessed fangirl that I was.) I joined a fairly innocent roleplay site during one such search. But my innocent roleplaying soon ended when I clicked on an explicit Drarry fanfic.

Where were my parents? Good question. In fairness, around this time my mom was pregnant and we were gearing up to move states. (Which is how I remember what time period this took place in; not sure I'd have recalled my age otherwise.)

Did they ever find out what I spent my time reading and writing? Maybe! My personal fanfiction was saved to the family computer. And in my earliest days I didn't know how to, or think to, delete my search history.

What is important to note, though, is this: my parents never hid my siblings or myself from any media.

I grew up watching horror films. All manner of horror films. (Violence, gore, nudity, sex.) We listened to all sorts of music. (Profanity, sex, violence.) I was also an avid reader from a young age. I inhaled books in a frenzy. My mom gave me Flowers of the Attic (child neglect and abuse, underage sex, incest, murder) before I discovered fanfic. As a preteen, my grandmother gave me a book called She's Come Undone (domestic abuse, mental illness, rape, eating disorders, abortion.) I read Lolita in junior high. I probably don't need to explain that one.

Explicit slash fiction wasn't so different as to shock or horrify me, but it was a unique experience. It opened my eyes in many ways.

I was always a creative person. (No one ask me about the spy novels I wrote at ages 7 and 8.) I was always deeply invested in stories. (Harry Potter, my longtime love.) That I found find more Harry Potter stories!! That I could create my own, even??? There was a whole world to explore!

I might also mention that I was born and raised in the Bible Belt in the good ole U.S. of A. Sex education was barely there. Hardly an education at all. I'd learned more from sex scenes in horror films and hundreds of smut fics. (I don't actually recommend using fanfic as a guidebook, but it can be a good starting point for what to research and explore.)

I learned about the LGBT community. I'd never even heard of gay people before fanfiction. I learned about kinks. I saw many topics explored in deeper, more meaningful ways than any traditional media. Self harm, abuse, homophobia, rape, etcetera.

You can argue, if you want, that minors shouldn't be exposed to some things.

But I'll tell you what my mother told me, when reflecting upon our childhood: "I didn't want to shield you from anything. The world is a big, scary place. At least I could be with you, and talk to you."

She never gave us overt lessons. But I didn't need a lecture after Texas Chainsaw Massacre to know murder was wrong. I knew that monsters weren't real, but danger was. I learned there were specific words only adults could use, that I could say when I was older. And that sex was for grown ups, too.

I never drank, I never did drugs. I never skipped school, or sneaked out of my house. I didn't steal. I didn't cheat on tests, or boyfriends. I was a good kid. And I've been a fairly tame adult, as far as real life and real actions go.

You can argue, if you want, that minors shouldn't be exposed to some things. And I'm not saying everyone should raise their kids the way I was raised. But it was hardly awful, what I went through.

It was never fiction that hurt me.

It was real people, in real life, and the real actions they took against me that hurt me.

Through fandom, I read and wrote fanfiction for Harry Potter. I was involved in online roleplays for Twilight. I made friends all over the world.

I saw a post yesterday complaining about "kids today." How the internet ruined us. How no one should have so much access to information. I disagree.

I thrived.

Who would I be today without my experiences? Not so open-minded, I think, nor so knowledgeable. Lacking awareness of other people, other cultures, other ways of living and loving. Without seeing how much joy and pleasure could exist in this world, or how much darkness and cruelty. My mind turned a thousand different ways. There was so much variety in the fandom world. And so much potential for me to unravel my own thoughts and feelings. To further push the bounds of my imagination and abilities.

My world is all the richer, and all the brighter, for these past nineteen years in fandom.

I learned.

I learned not only about others, but about myself. I learned what sorts of content I enjoyed reading. What sorts of content I enjoyed writing (which, funnily enough, can be different things.) I learned basic coding. I learned about Microsoft. I learned how to troubleshoot computer issues, and internet issues. I eventually learned how to clear a browser history. I learned how to fine-tune engine searches. I learned how to back away from content I didn't like, and how to recover from content that bothered me.

I fell down research rabbit holes related to stories I read. Is this a real town? Is that a real item? I learned bits of Latin, and the importance of lube. I learned about safewords. And polyamory. I figured out what was possible, and what wasn't. The different ways people could think, and feel.

In my early to mid twenties I read a fic with a demisexual character. I did my research. I joined Facebook groups. I interacted with others. I spent years listening and learning and sitting with myself, and embracing my asexual identity.

My Best Friend had a different upbringing than I did. Her parents shielded her from the world. They were deeply religious. They were very strict. Her parents never gave her the sex talk. She learned about sex for the first time in our small town, conservative high school. Her first experience with gay people was her twin coming out of the closet in junior high. She believed in Santa Claus until high school, from our peers discussing the subject in class. She learned about asexuality from me, in our twenties, and from our conversations, learned more about herself.

In our early years, her parents called me a bad influence. I wore short skirts and I made crude jokes. I was watching Saw when she couldn't watch PG-13 films at 13.

Best Friend is one of the kindest people I know. She's deeply compassionate, and very open-minded. She is primed to learn from others, and willing to have her mind changed. She is one of the best people I know.

Being protected from media never protected her, though. Because there are still real people out there, who really hurt her.

We're 30 now. There are still topics to this day I'm surprised to find Best Friend has never heard of. I'll mention a subject in conversation. She asks me questions.

We're 30 now, and despite different upbringings, we're in similar places. We don't party. Neither of us had a "wild" stage. We both have stable jobs and stable relationships. We've been best friends for eighteen years. She indulges in very heterosexual, very vanilla smut. I read all manner of darkfic, whumping, and dead dove.

She doesn't judge me for it.

She never did.

She's known since we were 13, when I boldly and enthusiastically informed our friend group of my fandom world. I told them all about my deep love of Snarry. I won't say they weren't surprised, and that they didn't lowkey judge me, but they loved and accepted me all the same.

Best Friend shares none of my fandom preferences. We're not in the same fandom. We don't ship the same ships. We don't read the same types of stories. Her stomach would roil if she were forced to read the stories I read.

But no one's forcing her.

I tell her about my projects, and about my accomplishments, and she's happy for me. She's supportive.

No amount of "problematic" content turned me into a monster. None of Best Friend's shelter protected her from monsters.

No one and nothing will protect you from the world. We can't expect it. Life is big and wild and strange. And beautiful. And horrible. It is the responsibility of our guardians to guide us. And our responsibility to learn and grow. To study and explore.

But if all you know is how to hate and hunt, well...you have a lot left to learn.

[pollsnatural]

To get $100, you must spend two hours discussing Supernatural with another person (spin the wheel).

[underswap-brittle-beam]

tw: body horror(skin where skin shouldn't be), mentions of incest.

If you clicked the read-more expecting something less graphic and more in-line with how I was portraying him before on the @undertalebrittle blog, I apologize. I've decided to bring more out of the notes, and I gotta say, I have no idea how obvious any of this was. Hope you're not too blindsided.

Jabot and Krill are children of incest, let's get that out in the open.

Jabot is 23. No matter what end he gets, good or bad, he will not live to see 30.

Most of his medications actually harm him more than they help him.

He is aware of you.

Society.

If you have any other questions, he might answer them.

[intheholler]

what joke are you really tryin to tell when you make fun of appalachia and the greater south?

even when you "just" mock our accents (you and i both know what you're really implying when you take on the drawl), the punchline of your joke there is poverty.

those who prefer a more overt route over backhanded implication: when you laugh at our education, or lack thereof, the punchline of your joke is still poverty. systemically underfunded schools packed with underprivileged children who aren't getting the same standards of education as the rest of the country is a real knee slapper boy i tell you what

when you mock our dental health and start quipping about toothless hillbillies, you're still laughin at poverty. appalachia is disproportionately uninsured compared to the rest of the nation. fellas most of us can't afford the privilege of regular, preventative dental visits and checkups, let alone the cost of huge procedures when things finally get dire. beyond that, our poverty is generational. from the get go we inherit bad teeth from family who couldn't afford that shit neither.

in the same vein, when you make fatphobic comments about said disproportionately-uninsured region--one with few jobs available to begin with, let alone work that pays enough to afford wholesome, unprocessed foods that don't rot yer teeth for supper--the butt of your joke is,, u guessed it,, ✨ poverty ✨

but to me the real kicker is the cousin fucker jokes. how can you not see that when you snark about inbreeding, when you piss yourself over that infamous billboard and oh, how could anyone possibly need to be told that?!, your punchline is not only poverty and a lack of education enough to develop critical thinking skills and the ability to build safe support networks, but you're also usually guffawing at incestuous rape and vulnerable children on top of it. peak comedy.

really though, how is any of that funny?

what happens to everyone's class consciousness the moment we start talkin about the hollers n the deep south?

why does health insurance, quality education, and food security for all suddenly go from issues worth fighting for to punishments, and ones we deserve to be humiliated for on top of it?

i know im just a dumb ol hillbilly n all, but i reckon i just don't get what we're supposed to be laughin at here

[phoenixyfriend]

Something something Dooku survives the Clone Wars, the Imperial Era, and even a few years past the OT...

And Luke finds him while looking for More Jedi to help him teach.

Chewie recognizes the decrepit old bastard, and there is yelling, but being A Hundred And Nine has mellowed Dooku out in his own dusty hermit hut, on the other side of the galaxy from Ben and Yoda's hermit huts.

All the Jedi ghosts are unhappy with this but Dooku is… not REFORMED, technically, but he's old and tired, even if the Force keeps him a bit more healthy and energized than the average Old Guy, and humans routinely live to pretty unreal old ages in the gffa anyway so really 109 for them is probably like 85 for us.

But yeah. Old mountain hermit (to contrast the desert and the swamp) who's been in hiding from That Dick Sidious since he lost both hands to babyface Vader in 19BBY.

@jebiknights (Sammie) said:

Dooku finds out Luke was also trained by Yoda and is like "oh Yoda finally gave me a younger brother like I always wanted"

Alternately he could probably get Luke to call him Great-Great-Grandfather.

Sammie: Funniest option is he's both which makes Luke even more confused lmao Ghost Obi wan in the background like "stop fucking using non Jedi terms to describe Jedi relationships it doesn't fucking work"

Luke calls him, irreverently, Gramps, but also. Leia definitely recognizes him as a Recent Historic Political Figure, but not until AFTER Luke has already integrated Dooku into his new Jedi school.

"Why did Chewie let him do that?" He thought it was funny. (And/or if you like Chewku, you can make this some sordid exes thing.)

"Why did R2 let him do that?" Best keep evil man in electrical prodding range.

Sammie: Leia comes to the school for her biweekly Jedi lessons and sees the newest teacher was a traitor to the Republic 😭

Best if they can find Quin or Ventress out in the black. Partly because like. Does this make Ventress their step-grandma (Quinlan's on-off something) or their great-great-aunt (Dooku's 4th apprentice)?

Sammie: Both and also Luke's niece. Luke has a migraine by the end of it and Leia is ready to disown herself. Ventress: I didn't realize the Jedi were so incestuous Luke: war flashbacks to before he realized Leia was his sister

Ahsoka in the corner with Spacebucks, five years late "Y'all suck. Hey, Quin."

Sammie: I know you likely didn't bring up Quinlan thinking of QuinObi but now I'm imagining Quinlan declaring himself their grandpa when he meets the twins bc 1) he loves to cause chaos 2) he does/did consider Anakin his kid even if not in neat non Jedi terms and 3) Obi-Wan thought being considered Anakin's father made him sound old, and Quinlan needs to harass him beyond the grave

Dooku must have a cane that the ghosts heckle him about because He Clearly Wants To Be Just Like Yoda.

@lyntergalactic (Lyn) said:

I feel like evil gramps could really bring out Ahsoka's snark once she shows up and that would be highly entertaining Ahsoka is simultaneously his most and least favorite grandchild

She's the most experienced as a Jedi (Ventress went full Sith, not just leaving the Order but following the tenets like Ahsoka, and Quinlan isn't in the lineage), has never Fallen unless you count that thing on Mortis.

Also she WILL bitch Dooku out at this age, and honestly he kind of appreciates the brutal honesty.

Ahsoka: I'm not a Jedi. All the old people: Lies

She brings up the Hondo incident since nobody else is putting in the effort. Anakin and Obi-Wan COULD as ghosts but nooooooo she has to do everything around here.

Sammie: Oh but it sets them off so hard they can barely get the story off from laughing NGL I think the twins did not understand how truly annoying Obi-Wan and Anakin could be together until the Hondo story gets told.

They are The Worst.

[skumhuu]

Proshipper = you're against censorship and harassment over fiction & curate your experience on the internet to have a healthy distance from things that make you uncomfortable

Antishipper = you're okay and even encourage harassment towards "freaks" and "weirdos" society deems acceptable to hurt

[tinkaqueer]

I feel sorry for antis being so paranoid all the time lmao

Like for example whenever they write a fanfic including siblings it's like there's an unwritten rule that they must insist over and over in the tags that 'this is NOT A SHIP' and 'NOT A SHIPFIC THAT WOULD BE WEIRD EW' and it's not even remotely smutty or romantic in premise to begin with.

Like dude I wasn't walking up to your fic looking for incest and I wasn't thinking there was gonna be incest but now that you've brought it to my attention I'm going to look at you funny. Just imagine if I came over and brought delicious homemade burgers but before you even unwrap a single one I keep clarifying 'there is absolutely NO BEAR MEAT in these burgers I promise I would never cook that'. Like you wouldn't be the least bit suspicious once you heard that?

[pollsnatural]

Spin the wheel and get an spn pairing (tw it has incest ships).

[danandfuckingjonlmao]

so five and lila being a thing is going right next to allison literally sexually assaulting luther in the box of things we are absolutely under no circumstances accepting as part of canon right

[incognitopolls]

We ask your questions so you don’t have to! Submit your questions to have them posted anonymously as polls.

[5typesoftrash]

if you are pro-censorship, you are not my ally. Not in feminism, not in queerness, not in anti-racism. Bad actors aren't going to just censor the things you don't like; they won't stop. Sure, they'll sweep over the explicit incest and pedophilia, but then, just like the fancop teenagers have, they will start stretching those definitions to include everything that they dislike. Calling queer people pedophiles is a textbook example of queer oppression; you don't think conservatives are gonna use that as an excuse to burn books about trans joy and wlw/mlm experiences? Because they will.

If you are pro-censorship, you are not my ally.

[l-in-the-light]

Luffy's and Law's similarities

Because people always talk only about their differences, time to do the uno reverse! You might be surprised how many there are, actually.

Snapping at exactly same thing.

Snapping at same stuff again, because sometimes they share exactly the same brain cell. Even their face expressions are exactly the same in both examples lol.

Whenever Law actually loosens his guard, he reacts in exact same ways as Luffy does.

They both have a very similar experience with their mentors sacrificing themselves for them and same selfblaming reaction. This serves mostly as a prologue because we will compare how child Law and child Luffy behaved.

Both were reckless brats with very wrong self-harming ideas to get what they want.

They hate "dirty tricks" and being lied to. And easily lash out.

Their initial reaction to making fun of someone tripping/being pushed on the floor or making fun of anyone. Also standing there in exact same pose with their fists clenched.

"I will go find a real role model", same vibes here honestly.

"You will pay for this" mentality. They were also both literally thrown which endagered their lives and they both can't believe it's actually happening, that anyone would do something like that. Also bonus points for swearing child Luffy haha.

Both consider some people to be just total scums that deserve punching. Bad guys should be taught a lesson. Law at least managed to land a stab, so 1:0 for him.

This is intriguing. This is the last time Law asks someone for help. And last time Luffy asks someone to help him. Both seem to be convinced "asking for help" caused their loved ones to get hurt, so you will never hear them do it again. The only difference here is Law is asking to help Corazon, while Luffy is the one who needs the help.

Later on Luffy is taught to ask for help by Vivi in Drum Kingdom, but he isn't asking for himself, but to help Nami. Meanwhile Law never again uses the polite words. The most he is capable of is to ask Cavendish "tanomu" which is more like "I'm counting on you".

Both sit in same pose whenever Law isn't trying to impersonate Corazon's style (yes, Law mimicks Cora a lot, also in the way he walks). At least once he slipped and sat in the way he found naturally comfortable instead and it was exactly same way as Luffy's preferred sitting position. What a curious coincidence.

Another funny thing about them is that they both like to wear exactly same type of shoes they used to wear as a child, Luffy the sandals, and Law his dark boots. It's not really that common thing in the manga, for example, Nami and Zoro didn't stick to same type of shoes they used to wear when they were kids.

They also sleep in exactly same position, the infamous T-pose. For comparison, the rest of the Strawhats all have their own different sleeping positions (first from the right is Usopp ofc lol).

They also match each other's pace pretty well. "Let's go, Torao!" and "Ike!" as Law's answer which literally means just "Go!", because Traffy is ready too, no need to stall back.

And finally my favourite:

If Law wasn't under Corazon's "calm" spell, would his laugh sound familiar? Perhaps would it be "shishishi" we know so well? Of course that's the last time Law laughs like that, so we can't compare him laughing when he's an adult. Families in One Piece often share similar laughs, it seems. Unless you're a devil fruit user, that also changes your laughter apparently hm.

There's probably even more similarities between their behaviour, thinking patterns and expressions than I managed to find. I find it suspicious considering those two did not grow up together, so why are they so similar when they're both children?

I dunno if whole D. clan is an actual family, but I think Law and Luffy definitely had a shared ancestor and probably not that far in the past. Very curious since they're from East Blue and North Blue, the two seas mentioned to be the hardest to travel from one another.

Many people speculated Dragon isn't related to Garp or Luffy because they don't really look that much alike, but if you compare Monkey, Trafalgar and Gol family members together you can start to see some pattern emerging: they all have naturally black ruffled hair Potter-family style (you're welcome for that comparison you never wanted to notice and now you can't unsee haha). I wonder if Joyboy will also be revealed of sporting similar style of hair.

[txttletale]

How can you advocate family abolition and then go to bat for incest kink? It's literally based around familial abuse.

it's so funny (a word which here means 'bleak') that saying "i think it's bad when trans women get put in the death panopticon for their private sexual behaviour" means i'm "going to bat" for anything

this post:

[saintmelangell]

and at its core longlegs is an incest narrative, in the sense that every mother was once a daughter. the violation of every mother is also a violation of her daughter and when a daughter is violated her mother is also. dolls in the effigies of children are presented in veils as if they are brides. longleg's intent, to prey on young girls and make victims of both them and their mothers (at the hands of men, specifically their fathers and husbands) begins with making a girl-child in his own image, forming her out of clay. longlegs may worship the devil but it is the christian God, unseen and creative, who renders unspeakable violence on his own daughters through the hands of human men.