#the antis in a nutshell

[fuji09]

We need to bring kindness back to fandom.

We need to stop judging people based on who they ship or who they stan.

We need to stop treating others like they're stupid and exasperating for bringing up "old news" when they are new to the fandom and for them it's all new.

We need to go back to ship and let ship. It never should have come to proship and anti. People didn't used to harass and judge others for who they shipped.

We need to go back to quietly filtering the tags we don't want to see, not scroll through the content we hate and then attack people who love that content.

We need to stop accusing people of being a pedophile because of who they ship. The only thing tha makes you a pedo, is being an adult who is attracted to prepubescent children. Adults attracted to teenagers (post pubescent) are hebephiles. Stop calling hebephilia, pedophilia. It does more harm than good and waters down the severity of the words.

We need to stop being ageist. The amount of ageism in fandom now is disgraceful. Teens and young adults constantly judging older adults and trying to push them out of fandom is so wrong. Who do you think gives y'all the most content? Adults. Stop acting like 30 years old is ancient. One day you'll be 30, it's not that old, seriously.

We need to stop acting like minors and adults can't be friends because "they have nothing in common and it's creepy." Their shared interest is fandom! Fandom elders used to be treated as the coolest people in the fandom, and now they are treated like they are intruding on the spaces they made.

We need to stop with minors openly engaging with NSFW content. Stop following people who have "no minors" on their page. Stop openly engaging with adult content because you may not get in trouble, but the adult could.

We need to stop ignoring fandom etiquette. It's there for a reason. Going into tags of what you hate isn't healthy for you and it's annoying to the people who like those tags. Making a post about hating a certain ship? Don't tag that ship, use "anti [insert ship name here]".

We need to stop demonizing DDDNE (dead dove do not eat). Whether it's there to warn about triggering content or there to emphasize that you're getting exactly what was said you'll get, it's there to not only protect the author, but the reader as well.

We need to stop accusing people of things they are clearly not. Accusations of racism, especially towards poc, is not only hurtful, but it's constantly used for when someone doesn't like a character that is a poc because other reasons to not like a character is just apparently not thought of anymore.

We need to stop judging other people's headcanons. Headcanons are there for us to enjoy.

We need to stop insulting each other and each other's art and writing in fandom. Don't like don't read. Move along and check out something you do like.

We need to stop with making everything about a ship or character you hate and spreading said hate throughout the fandom. It really isn't cool to have pages dedicated to hating characters and ships. It's not edgy, it's sad.

We need to stop trying to control how people perceived what they read and watch. We are all different, we all won't see things exactly the same due to our life experiences and how our minds work.

Fandom is supposed to be an escape from the world, to have fun, and to meet others who are interested in the same things.

All this hate and discourse makes everything unpleasant. End the cycle that started less than a decade ago. Fandom can go back to being just being fun and not a morality contest.

[beauty-funny-trippy]

If any other person in history had incited a violent insurrection against the United States, they'd have been labeled a traitor, thrown in prison, and have absolutely no chance of a political career. But when Trump does it, Republicans make him their candidate for president.

Somewhere along the line, Republican politicians took a hard right turn, straight into insanity —found Republican voters already there waiting for them— and decided that batshit crazy is now their brand.

[itsemsie]

Astruc writting Chloe in Season 1: A regular school bully, pretty much harmless.

Astruc writting Chloe in Season 6 probably: Chloe Bourgeois is actually the one who broke the peacock miraculous in the first place and is thus the reason why Emilie died, I mean got sick and thus caused Gabriel to siral and become Hawkmoth which of cause causedd the entire series to happen and eventually lead to Gabriel sacrificing himself to bring bakc Natalie and forced Marinette to lie to Adrien and so Chloe is actually the reason why they haven't had the reveal yet. Don't you hate her enough? Did you also know she's the reason why Juleka and Rose haven't gotten together yet, or why Rose has her illness which he can't say. Did you know that Chloe actually broke-

[charliewrites99]

[nando161mando]

Capitalism in a nutshell

[halenhusky309]

Twitter dumb homophobic + transphobic cunts with anime avatars and the cross think calling Megop suck would stop us from shipping them...

Like go pray to God and "enjoy" characters that look like they haven't passed second grade...

[70yearoldmanpussy]

The whole "Beast x Ancient ships are problematic" debate in the Cookie Run Kingdom fandom annoys me so much because 60-80% of the people saying it are hypocrites who go "oh but except SM and PV!" When it inevitably comes around to a ship they actually like.

Burning Spice x Golden Cheese is problematic because he tried to murder her and aspired to destroy everything she loves because destruction is the only thing that brings him joy at all. None of this matters but, sure, I get WHY you'd think that. Obviously if they were in a relationship it'd be abusive. Mystic Flour x Dark Cacao is problematic because she essentially murdered his friends/soldiers, leaving him alone so it'd be easier to manipulate him, almost convinced him into believing nothing truly matters so she could steal his Soul Jam and use its powers for her own purposes, showed him a vision of a reality where he died because of her, in which his son took his throne and nobody really missed him all that much to further prove her point. Yeah, that's mighty fucked up!

...but Shadow Milk and Pure Vanilla? Oh they're just two goofy goobers who've had a couple bad moments from time to time but it doesn't define them or anything. They still love each other so much! There's nothing abusive here! I once saw someone say (essentially, not word-for-word) "All SM did was turn his friends into cards and fuck with them a bit, that's not abuse!" And... buddy... pal... amigo... Shadow Milk psychologically tortured Pure Vanilla, threatened his friends lives as if they were toys, altered *his own memories* in which he was supposedly watching him throughout his entire life to make him believe everything he knew was lie, that no matter what he did he could never escape his presence, and broke him down so badly all in an attempt to take his Soul Jam. THAT IS ABUSE!!!! Does "abuse" just mean psychical violence to y'all?? Of course it doesn't, because MF also psychologically abused and manipulated DC, and you can recognize that, but when it's a ship you actually like? Oh nothing wrong here! That abuse *totally* didn't happen, and if it did, it's not a big deal anyway because it wasn't even THAT bad! Do you not see how this sounds?

This is what I mean when I say "antis are antis until it's a fucked up ship they like" and that "'problematic ship' really just means rarepair." Ships they don't like are problematic (because they know calling a ship "problematic" is a buzzword that instantly makes them win the argument even if it's untrue), but ships they do like, even if they're also problematic, conveniently have a thousand excuses for why they totally aren't bad but the Other ship is, even if it involves entirely erasing/ignoring integral parts of the story and the characters actions. Rarepairs (BS x GC, MF x DC) are easier to attack because hardly anyone will defend it, but popular ships (SM x PV) never get criticized, because if you try to, you suddenly have a bounty on your head, even if that ship is literally by their own definition problematic (sometimes even more than the looked down upon rarepair!).

Shadow Milk x Pure Vanilla is a "problematic ship". It is abusive, it is abuser x victim, NOT in the "uwu quirky toxic yaoi (they were mean to each other like one time)" way, and no amount of you woobifying Shadow Milk and blatantly lying about what happens to spread your narrative that it isn't will change that. This is not an opinion, or an agree-to-disagree situation, it is an objective fact. This isn't being said to scare or insult you if you're an antishipper that likes Shadownilla, my point isn't that "SHADOWNILLA FANS ARE PROSHITTERS!!" It's that none of this matters at all because it's just ships. You're not supporting *real life* abusive relationships just because you find an unhealthy relationship in fiction hot (which you can't even control). Accept it and move on

[pitchblackespresso]

I have seen this topic making the rounds on my dash, and even though I'm not personally a writer, I am a reader, so I am curious

[wannabewriterlol]

Rhysand says women deserve rights, as if it’s not a statement of his values or beliefs. It’s kinda like he’s taking a buzz feed quiz on wether or not he’s a hot male character and is just clicking the answers that give him the answer he wants. And women deserve rights is just another question to further his goals.

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

Block this motherfucker right here↑, she is a harasser because, she calls someones who criticizes them puritans, no stupid, puritans doesn't are anti sex or wharever you proshitters think, you and silentshit1992 are really offending a religion, and it's concerning and wrong fr, in conclusion, do not support her, she is a religion offender and proshitter stan. I wasn't harassing that person in question, I was just showing that proshitters like to pick fights, and they come to talk about self-reflection, so go fuck then.

[ant1quar1an]

I love you to death, but I will be the one holding the bloody knife.

[answrs]

"oh no, what horrible Take™ is getting dragged for filth on my dashboard this time? this mutual usually skips those, must be pretty serious and/or hilarious then."

*clicks*

"ah, nevermind. just a generic shitpost with a dumbfuck tagging it. on your way, then."

[TO BE CLEAR: THE OP TAGGED THE OG POST THAT WAY, NOT MUTUAL]

[fromtheseventhhell]

what do you think about the affc 2003 old script release? sansa fans are claiming because it says “take north” it means actually retake the north instead of heading north

It's interesting to look at George's notes and try to line them up with the plotlines we already have, but it's hard to make predictions on future ones because of how fragmented they are. The only reason it's being used as proof is because Stansas have already decided that's how her story will play out; It's just confirmation bias.

Regarding Sansa's portion, I think it lines up with what we've already gotten from her AFFC + TWOW chapters. Her final AFFC chapter includes LF outlining his "plan", which is supposed to culminate in her revealing her identity, gaining the support of the Vale, and retaking the North...hence the "take the north" in the outline. The fact that it predates the Tourney on the list, introduced afterward in her TWOW sample, seems to line up. LF's "prizes" of returning her identity and Winterfell give us her motivations + reasoning for why she is, for now, willing to follow his plan. The only actual new point seems to be "Kill the Mouse".

It's hard to theorize on any of these because they could all be subject to change/revision but to me, this outline shows that George has an entire arc in the Vale planned out of her. The Tourney hasn't even begun yet, we have Myranda potentially realizing Sansa's identity, Sansa hasn't even begun allying with the knights of the Vale, an engagement to Harry hasn't been secured, SW's health is up in the air, I doubt that the Mad Mouse will be killed off anytime soon, etc. She has a lot of story left to play out where she is and nothing actually indicates that she will be physically heading North anytime soon. The issue is that people keep trying to align her book arc with the show. Ultimately we won't ever really know until George releases TWOW, but it is funny to me that this is taken as ultimate proof when there's so much from George that they ignore. They'll rally around a few fragmented thoughts from 10 years ago, but then they ignore it when he outright says he has no idea what D&D are doing with Sansa and that things will be very different in the books 🤷🏾‍♀️

[susanoos-wife]

Having weird or taboo fetishes is fine in and of itself, but at the same time, if you have weird or taboo fetishes, especially involving stuff that's almost universally viewed as disgusting, like rape, pedophilia, etc., you can't act surprised when other people find it unpleasant. That doesn't mean that anyone deserves harassment for shipping, writing fanfic, or engaging with/enjoying any other fandom related stuff, and yelling at other people for creating or enjoying fiction is and always will be a waste of time. It does mean that you have to be okay with other people not sharing your fetishes or kinks though and if you're going to complain about other people being prudes or basic boring bitches for having different tastes than you, consider that fandom is not the ideal hobby for you.

[cruelestpoetryever]

yeah as a goth, maybe goth haven't being nice to you cause you're not nice to us?????? idk just a crazy idea. maybe people dont like being called "man stealers", "mean" and shit like that for just listening to goth music lmao

Well maybe if they don't want that they shouldn't be mean or steal my boyfriend. It literally should not be that hard to just be a decent human and treat others with respect

[lostinwoods]

Sasusaku has no trope subversion—

‘Cold man/warm woman’?

No, please! Sasuke is not cold, he is just indifferent towards Sakura, there is a difference. He is hot enough for Naruto.

Sakura is not a warm hearted person. She is a selfish, insensitive bitch. And that is okay if ‘Sasuke’s love’ was not the other part of her personality.

‘Unrequited/Requited’?

What is that? The only unrequited feelings I am looking at is Sakura’s. Sasuke does requite ‘feelings’ but somehow it seems to be directed at Naruto.

‘Team mates to lovers’?

Sakura was a team mate? When did that happen?

‘Hate to love’?

Are you sure Sasuke even had any feelings towards her? He surely looked and acted pretty indifferent. And why was he running off to Naruto?

‘Unhealthy/toxic’ ?

You do need a relationship for that. There was none.

Ooh and my absolute favourite

Mutual Pining ?

Sure, there was a lot of it. Like the entire series is a mutual pining tagged fiction. But guess between who!

Closing verdict...

Sasuke’s only interested in revenge and getting physical with Naruto. I will never give SasuSaku a try, and neither should you if tropes is a thing for you.