#topic: syscourse

[editblr-confessions]

editblr needs to calm the fuck down about endos. "if i find out any of my followers are even endo neu im gonna be so mean to them idc that its harrassment" do you realize how crazy you sound rn? calm the fuck down. take a deep breath. go outside. there are bigger hills to die on or whatever

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[deityofproendos]

By the way, PTSD flashbacks aren't always "suddenly you're in the moment again". They can be of course but emotional flashbacks are a kind of flashback too (remembering the event and suddenly feeling the emotions you felt in the event) just in case someone needed to hear it

[thefluxsystem]

Most people in my day-to-day life have no idea that I have DID. The ones that do know, I told them.

Nobody has ever come to the conclusion on their own (aside from professionals) that I have DID, because frankly most people know nothing about it outside of the name.

My peers see me as a high-functioning hermit. I do what needs to be done (career-wise, socially, etc) then disappear to recharge. I’m labeled as a little odd, eccentric, quirky— all kind ways of saying “we can tell there’s something wrong with you, we just don’t know what”.

I’ve lost friends because of my DID, except they didn’t know that’s what it was. In their eyes I was unreliable, forgetful (interpreted as uncaring by them), I changed my mind too often, I never knew what I wanted. All symptoms of DID and yet never taken as such.

My point is, I feel like the ideas of overt versus covert DID are misconstrued in online system spaces. It’s not necessarily overt means people know you have DID and covert means they don’t. A lot of it is overt means the DID symptoms are noticeable (from the outside looking in), covert means they’re not so noticeable.

[cavityinmybrain]

i am once again reminding syscourse that “anti recovery” means literally nothing because recovery is a personal experience for everyone. saying someone engages in “anti recovery behaviors” is just using buzzwords against them and also moralizing recovery.

recovery has no moral attachment. recovery is not the same for everyone. what helps one person might hurt another

[anomalymon]

[oopsallsyscourse]

People really assume the bare minimum when they hear self diagnosis. Like how do you know the person hasn't done a ton of research over the course of years? How do you know someone using the term self diagnosis isn't using it as a synonym for "highly suspected but no confirmed." You're making a lot of assumptions of a word.

[ratbastardz]

TW FOR RELIGIOUS THEMES ON THIS POST

RULER OF DAMNATION SYS ROLE )

Ruler Of Damnation : a system role which describes an alter who is that of a satanic presence among their headmates. What this means is that the alter will watch over other headmates quietly, studying them, "damn" those who "sin" (cause the system, body, or others outside of the collective harm in some way) by not allowing them to front, keeping them locked away, etc. A ruler of damnation can be a protector, a persecutor, a gatekeeper, any role really. A ruler of damnation usually does not have bad intentions, however they may come off as cruel or inhumane in their ways of working with the collective.

Alternative names for this role could be Lucitor or Infernalmate if desired~

A system/alter does not have to be religious or have religious trauma to use this role btw

Requested by : no one

Coined by : The Cardmaster

Tagging : @radiomogai

Inbox : 02 (responses slow, requests open)

If this already exists, consider it an alt flag/term.

[godly-rambles]

this isnt what i normally post but it's important to me that i say this

before you block me, please just hear me out

it scares me how much of alterhuman tumblr (and alterhumans in general) support(s) endogenic systems

systems are people who experienced severe repeated trauma before the age of nine. by removing the trauma factor its impossible to form alters.

before you turn nine, every emotion is a different state of self. (thank you @/quoigenicfromhell for helping me to understand this bit better) essentially you are a different person when you're hungry, happy, sad, scared, etc. when you experience such severe trauma that your body decides it's unsafe for your personalities to merge, THATS when you become a system.

Severe Repeated Childhood Trauma.

that is how systems form, thats literally how it works. the trauma factor is what makes the system a system

i wouldnt say im anti-endogenic, more like i'm endogenic cautious.

again i am all for hearing people out, please tell me your thoughts in the reblogs or comments, but this is just my personal take on it.

i wish no harm to people who identify as endogenic, live however you want to live.

this is how I've interpreted the topic as someone who isn't really qualified to have a take on it, i just wanted to share some of my thoughts.

UPDATE: I've read through the reblogs and comments on my take, and I still dont fully understand the identity itself, but it makes more sense now. Thank you to everyone who helped to explain it, I appreciate your help

I see everyone in the reblogs/comments talking about how being an endogenic system doubles as being alterhuman, but I really don't understand how that could be the case. If anyone's willing to explain it further please do

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

No, not everyone has an inner child/worksona/etc that is literally a different person (or at all). There is no universal hard line between singlethood and plurality, it is all a single spectrum, and plurality is vastly more common than is, ahem, commonly accepted, but some people actually do not have experiences you might think as universal and that goes in both directions. I have literally been plural-questioning for years and I know for a fact that my experiences are much more singular than those of many who are not sure if they are plural.

[editblr-confessions]

its so damn hard finding graphics and shit as an endo, everywhere I go, it seems like everyone is anti endo...

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[thecircularsystem]

[zootzbootz]

oh boy... I have a LOT to say today. so. buckle up.

telling systems that locking away dangerous/abusive/problematic alters under any circumstances is "bad and wrong" is... quite honestly abuser apologia and puts the well-being over a single headmate- the ABUSIVE one mind you- over their actual victims. over the rest of the system.

now I don't advocate for this extreme case scenario in every situation. locking away a headmate should only ever be used in the most dire and last resort situation. if the alter in question is shown to have no desire the change and all their presence causes is legitimate harm to the rest of the system (or even people outside of it) locking them up shouldn't be off the table.

"but but but - locking them away is cruel and unnecessary!!11! 1! 1! 1!! 🥺🥺" you know what else is cruel and unnecessary?? forcing an abusers victims to be around said abuser nearly 24 fucking 7. and within a system- locking that abuser away may be their only option. they can't always "hash things out" because, and some of y'all really need to get this through y'alls heads- not every abusive alter is like that because they're "hurting and misunderstood" some are just LEGITIMATELY BAD PEOPLE.

while on that note, actually. I honestly HATE the narrative that all abusive/problematic/harmful alters in systems are just "misunderstood and hurting 🥺🥺"

like- yes, absolutely, that is the case at times.

But it isn't like that in every single scenario.

people need to realize that bad people exist as in. legitimately bad people. people who know their behaviour is wrong and do not care and continue to act like that anyway and no amount of "talking it out" is going to make them change their minds.

and people like this aren't limited to singlets either.

like bro consequences have actions.

in the OW- if someone does something horribly fucked up. you know what happens to them? they get locked away in PRISON. (which yes the system as it's issues. that isn't really the point tho. the point is if you are a danger to other people. you're obviously going to be removed from being able to interact with other people in mass.)

I don't think seperating a genuinely dangerous and problematic alter is all that different. it's protecting the rest of the system from somebody who WOULD unequivocally harm them had they been allowed to roam free otherwise.

[cavityinmybrain]

i wanted to try to get some positivity going in the syscourse tags today because it is a headache to look at (as usual).

whats something you’ve accomplished recently that makes you feel proud? it can be as big or as small as you need it to be, even just waking up today is an accomplishment to be proud of!!

i’ll start: i’ve recently been able to talk about experiences within my system to people other than my therapist without Gatekeeper shutting it down by triggering a fear response! this is a really big accomplishment for me given two years ago i couldn’t talk about it at all with anyone :)

[thestarseersystem]

Okay I came across this stupid ass opinion not too long ago about someone saying "you have to work towards fusion" and it can't happen "accidentally", this is something I want anyone to answer if they have experience with it. Is that true? Do you agree or disagree? And why?

In my experience, fusion will happen if an alter is unstable and cannot handle being alone/their own part, often right after they leave dormancy, or to integrate memories of some kind. It can kind of happen naturally for those reasons. But I don't think any of us have actively worked towards fusion within therapy (mostly because we have to raw dog trauma processing on our own, and therapy's expensive).

Let me know your experiences and how true any of that is, and let me know if you're a polyfragmented system, if fusions kind of just happened on their own.

[sophieinwonderland]

A plural future does not, in fact, have to be inclusive of anti-endos.

A plural future will ultimately benefit all plurals because all will find acceptance for their plurality, but hate and intolerance shouldn't be accepted, even from other systems.

[oopsallsyscourse]

On the topic of typing quirks, we actually have an alter who has one. It's just a small one where they have to type with perfect spelling or grammar (well as perfect as we can manage lol) including capitalization and punctuation. If they consciously try to break this, it causes them a large amount of distressed until the text is corrected.

When I see people talk about how they can't control their typing quirks, I think it's probably a similar situation. While they can in theory type "normally" it may cause them distress and this probably isn't too high on the list of things that immediately need addressing.