#tva quote

[uthseikoashx-goingmyway]

that boy was onto something i fear

The Vampire Armand, Anne Rice, 1998. p. 389

[dubblebubbleibuprofen]

This is how I’m coping ok. It’s ok.

[mischievous-thunder]

One of the most important revelations from S2 E4 has to be the fact that Mobius loves to download and play unauthorised games that have the potential to corrupt system files. The way he denied repeating his mistake is extremely suspicious. It's impossible not to love this man.

[loki-stuff]

Loki: You’ve got to learn to love yourself.

Mobius: But don't you hate yourself.

Loki: Yeah, but this is about you. Stay focused.

[fandomnerd9602]

the TVA arrest Jamie Howlett and Y/N-Pool leading them to a TVA agent…

Agent: Jamie Howlett, please sign this statement that this is everything you’ve ever said. Although I think there might be a mistake.

Jamie: how?

Agent: well there’s several pages of just…oh god oh god oh god yes oh god yes

Jamie; care to explain why, honey?

Y/N: I could but then this incorrect quote would be hit with a mature content label

Jamie; yep

Agent:

[teabag-of-mischief]

I feel like if ex- Shield agent Clint Barton and ex-TVA agent Mobius ever met, they would have an interesting conversation about how it feels to have Loki inside you.

And when does Mobius realise that Clint means inside one’s mind

[violation72089]

do y’all think Mobius was ever by himself thinking about Loki and just whispered “wow” under his breath??? pls weigh in on this headcanon

[1luna1lovegood1]

Mobuis: When you said 'Magic in Bed', I wasn't

expecting this...

Loki : *pulls out card from deck* Now, was this your card?

Mobuis: Holy shit-

[90sgreggaraki]

do you get deja vu when he's with you?

[hekateinhell]

Remembering when Armand was dying in TVA and Marius spoke about how beautiful his corpse would be... 🫢🥹

"It's not my time," I said. "I know it. And such a statement cannot be undone by a mere handful of hours. Smash the ticking clock. They meant, by a soul's incarnate life, it wasn't time. Some destiny carved in my infant hand will not be so soon fulfilled or easily defeated."

"I can tip the odds, my child," he said. This time his lips moved. The pale sweet coral brightened in his face, and his eyes grew wide and unguarded, the old self I knew and cherished. "I can so easily take the last strength left in you." He leant over me. I saw the tiny variegations in the pupils of his eyes, the bright deep-pointed stars behind the darkening irises. His lips, so wondrously decorated with all the tiny lines of human lips, were rosy as if a human kiss resided there. "I can so easily take one last fatal drink of your child's blood, one last quaff of all the freshness I so love, and in my arms I'll hold a corpse so rich in beauty that all who see it will weep, and that corpse will tell me nothing."

I think a lot of the time it gets lost in the sauce how much TVA was explicitly intended to be a monsterfucking story, and I really, really love when those uncanny valley moments creep through. And to Armand — it's incredibly erotic! And for me the eerie, other factor is amplified by the fact that it is not eerie to Armand. He doesn't have the prey response that he should in reaction to something that his consciousness clearly recognizes is an imitation of a human.

Lips rosy as if a human's kiss still resided there! Child's blood! A corpse rich in beauty! Marius can tip the odds in death's favor!

There's so many peak Gothic Horror elements in TVA that I think get overlooked when in actuality it's such an evocative tale that leans into a lot of the classic vampire tropes — amongst others.

[uthseikoashx-goingmyway]

the vampire armand really is such a good book — and occasionally hilarious on top of that; it's remarkable how it depicts armand's religious struggles and paints such a compelling portrait

anyway, two quotes two pages apart which encapsulate the humour, the lestat petty (and tragic) obsession, the existential despair, the raw drive to tell one's own story, and on top of that, beautiful writing

Anne Rice, The Vampire Armand, chp 16

i've read it in the library today & just wanted to share

[monstersinthecosmos]

Hi, completely agree with what you said here but it makes me very sad to think about it. As someone who imprinted on Armand at 12, Marius/Armand was my first ship in VC but I find it hard to ship them post Venice era, even though Blood Communion seems to suggest some positive developments in their relationship (Marius standing behind Armand during his argument with Benedict supporting Armand being his own person iirc?). Idk I want them to work their shit out but it’s still hard to imagine them putting their differences aside sans an apocalyptic scenario like in QotD.

And sometimes idk if Marius loves Armand enough to work on it. I know that the corner of tumblr that loves Marius (And I certainly understand the appeal of a complicated and polarizing character like him. Kudos to Anne for creating Marius!) likes to push the idea that the turning of Benji and Sybelle was mostly out of love (and to a varying extent depending on the person’s pov, due to Marius’ mental health issues) but how much was that love and how much was it ‘my pet needs to have pets so that he stays alive for ME’. Not saying these 2 motivations are mutually exclusive but I’m genuinely curious about your views.

I’m rambling but guess what I’m trying to say is, how much do you think Marius’ love for Armand is unselfish, whether in Venice, at the end of TVA or after Blood Communion?

Asdghjakl yeah I have really similar feelings about them as a ship! Like the Venice era is my favorite time period in the VC but modern/present-day Marius/Armand doesn’t really hit the same way for me because it’s just such a motherfuckin mess lol.

What I do want to say, though, is that we’re kind of dancing around a topic here that involves the inhumanity and inherent monstrosity of Marius, and while I tend to think “THEY’RE VAMPIRES” is a lazy approach to analysis, there’s a deeper version of it that’s relevant here.

What I mean is that Marius can love Armand truthfully, sincerely, unselfishly and STILL cause harm, and still love him imperfectly, and still cause problems. I think when we really wanna start dissecting Marius/Armand as a ship, and the Venice era as a whole, and whatever trauma it left on Armand vs Marius’s motivations/intentions/character morals, it’s important to remember that Marius was not human. 

I think a lot about like, when we say that Armand is a “pet”, or that Denis, Daniel, Benji, and Sybelle are Armand’s pets, there’s sort of a connotation or shorthand to TLDR that it’s their cute little human. But I think about like, for example!, my fucking cats! Like, when I think about ACTUAL pets IRL, um, I would fuckin die for my cats? They’re my lil babies? I love them so fully and with my entire fucking soul but they’re dumb little animals that live in my house and I take care of them and I don’t think they have a single thought in their fucking skulls. 

So when you think about like, a 1500 year old immortal night creature adopting a little human, he can love Armand with his ENTIRE being, and I believe he really really did, and it’s still “aww the cute lil human that I feed”. And Marius is unique amongst the vampires for how hard he tries to stay connected to the human world, and it’s still never enough, he’s still never quite there, so I have always believed he had the right intentions even if he fumbled it or did things that could cause harm. It’s not like, he’s a ~MONSTER~ in a scary way, but literally, he’s so removed from humanity that he doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing. 

(Don’t let me get into a side essay here but it reminds me so much of like, imperfect boomer parenting, like looking at different generations’ parenting styles and realizing how much harm they caused, but most people aren’t intending to harm their children and just don’t know any better. Every generation will likely experience a form of this as we learn and grow and try to be better, but I find this really interesting for Marius specifically because of the age of the author!)

He was fifteen hundred years old when he met Armand. I think in a lot of ways he acted with good intentions that wound up causing a lot of harm. But it does a disservice to the story and to him as a character to only look at the outcome, without considering the universe he’s operating in. 

And idk like, where is the line between selfish and selfless love? Like, Marius is clearly a fucking mess at the beginning of TVA and didn’t take the news of Armand’s suicide very well. Is it selfish to do something drastic because he’s worried that Armand is still suicidal? Where does one end and the other begin? Especially with immortals like, is your own death a gift? Is it an act of kindness to save someone’s life instead of allowing them to check out? Idk idk! Grief is fucking messy, it can be both, but I don’t think it’s fair to characterize it as purely for himself. He even immediately fucks off to Norway in shame afterwards. I think I prefer to think he just wanted Armand to be happy and safe. By the end of the book they're still struggling to communicate with each other about religion, and in some ways I think Marius doesn't think Armand truly wanted to die, vs seeing a religious fit for what it is. So I'm not sure he sees Armand's suicide attempt as sincere, either, and maybe doesn't feel the need to respect his wish for death.  

I think a lot about the conversation Marius has with Armand after he turns Benji & Sybelle and realizes how bad he fucked up. 

"You loved them selflessly," he whispered. "For all their strange faults, and wild evil, they were not compromised for you. You loved them perhaps more respectfully than I... than I ever loved you." He seemed so amazed. I could only nod. I wasn't so sure he was right. My need for them had never been tested, but I didn't want to tell him so.

Even at 500 years old, Marius still doesn’t entirely understand Armand as a complete person. He doesn’t completely understand Armand’s needs, or the person he wants to be, or what his human companions were to him. I think it even starts when Armand is still alive, how Marius treats him like a silly little pet, like, Armand’s piety is a cute little quirk that Marius humors without ever truly respecting. It doesn’t occur to him that Benji & Sybelle aren’t just pets. And I think Marius being stuck in his trauma means he’s just perpetually trying to believe in himself and control everything around him, while Armand stuck in trauma means he’s constantly trying on different roles and figuring out who he is. 

(But FUCK ME, christ, “I wasn't so sure he was right. My need for them had never been tested, but I didn't want to tell him so.” this really fucks me up so bad, we have to keep talking about this another time because like, these two can NOT communicate with each other! They are useless with the barrier between them maybe they need to drink from each other more often and iron this out.)

Someone can do their best, and mean well, and still cause harm. Humans do this, too. I’m sure we’ve all been there. And Marius is a great example of vampires being stuck in the trauma of their turning—it doesn’t matter how wise he tries to be, he always comes back to the same trauma, over and over. Even the way he treats Armand in Venice is a direct result of Marius trying to fix his own trauma. And like, would therapy even work on a vampire, or are their brains stuck forever where they were? How much of their “changing” is just learning behavior, and learning to mask?

Because I think Marius 100% could do that for Armand. He loves Armand. Armand is his child. He was the first fledgling Marius ever made of his own will, after 1500 years! But I think canon left us off in a place where neither of them are quite there yet. Marius is in decent shape at the end of the series, I think—it feels like he’s made some huge strides in accepting himself and his nature, so I think there’s some potential! Armand also has to learn how to use his fuckin words a little bit better, which he’s never been good at, but I think the way he goes off on Lestat after keeping that inside for 200 years is a really great sign! 

I go back and forth about “does therapy even work on vampires” all the time, like, do they have neuroplasticity, are they capable of change, have we uncovered something in the PL Trilogy that could be a key to them functioning better and learning to change. I don’t really have an answer because canon doesn’t, it’s just a fun thing to think about, but it’s the best way that I can reconcile Marius’s intentions vs his actions, and how he somehow continues to make the same mistakes and never learns! 

Basically, I think it’s not helpful to ask if Marius loves him enough. He does! But loving someone doesn’t mean we magically know how to behave, and the qualities in Marius that cause him to behave selfishly are so deeply tied to his trauma, his control issues, his use of ego as a defense mechanism. And even in real life we can have boundaries and hold people accountable when they hurt us, even if it’s because of mental illness. We can have empathy and still have boundaries, and we can be hurt and still know when something wasn't personal. That feels kinda IRL and serious to frame vampire meta but like, Marius can love people and still fuck up, because he can’t help it, and I don’t think it’s a fair reading of the text to insist he’s a diabolical abuser because it just doesn’t really match his characterization otherwise. 

I hope he gets better! 

[mischievous-thunder]

Loki: I don't like how I have to wear dull and boring outfits here at the TVA.

Mobius: That's a good thing. You won't pose as a distraction.

Casey: But everyone says that you look exceptionally attractive no matter what you're wearing.

Loki: So, Mobius, your plan isn't working.

Mobius, pretending to read a file: I presume so.

[trasho-pando2011]

[fandomnerd9602]

Can you do one with Sylvie please.

Sylvie comes home after a shift at McDs…

Sylvie: baby I’m home

A TVA portal opens and Y/N walks in…

Y/N: hi baby how was work?

Sylvie: dreadful. How’s the TVA?

Y/N: had another Deadpool flirt with me

Sylvie wraps Y/N in a hug and kisses them…

Sylvie: well don’t forget that you’re all mine

Y/N: that’s all I want to be

[ihaventcomeupwthanameforaheroyet]

Another thing I've never noticed until last week.

Pandora:

Armand:

That can I say? Marius has a type. 😆😆😆

(It's also funny that Lestat turned out to be better at keeping his promises. His version of "never" lasted for two centuries. That's a lot.)