#debunking rumors

[hawkins-batman]

Can we finally put “the cast hates Noah” “they’re being forced to hang out with/work with him” rumors to rest now? Yeah? Can we block and discredit people who spread those rumors for their own self promotion?

Because it was never true to begin with but there should be no doubt now. They very much love him.

[hologramcowboy]

The person who sent the ask that was misconstrued as the "mistress letter" has come forward and sent me the ask they originally sent in. This ask was used by a few people as pretext to harass Erin on social media. By reading it, you will discover that it was in no way meant to perpetuate the mistress rumors but rather debunk them. In no way did the author pose as or claim to be a "mistress", they were merely acting as a concerned fan.

[tiredandoptimistic]

I want you all to know that I recently made a TSC slideshow to present to my friends, and this was one of the slides

[twopoppies]

https://x.com/aleestyles91/status/1867252903758405903?s=46

What when???!!😆😆

TBH, I’ve never seen proof of this, so I can’t tell you if it actually happened. @voxina any memories of this one?

x

[mikami1992]

You know what…

Celebrities are followed by the Paparazzi

and Bruce Wayne is a celebrity.

so… in a stroke of luck a paparazzi manages to take a photo of Bruce Wayne aged 50 or more with a muscular and strong body that is also covered in numerous scars…

and this was just a month after the "leak" of a photograph of Bruce Wayne where he looked like a normal body according to his age and where the use of Photoshop to "improve" the image was debated for days…

now we don't know what to think…

[sliceoflove]

I don’t remember if i ever shared this here, but just a reminder Craig and Lauren did this redesign

[homosexualslug]

nia sondaya saying losing mari will be akilah's breaking point, I know that's right (x)

transcript below:

nia: I really do, I do love their friendship. And I'm so sad for Akilah she lost a lot in that season finale

interviewer (kaitlyn): yeah, I was going to say how do you think akilah will react to mari's death?

nia: I think she's going to be devastated but I do... Personally, as the actor, I mean, I don't know anything yet, so this is just me saying. But I do think, I think that could be a straw that breaks the camel's back for akilah. I feel like akilah's been through a lot this season. and I do feel like losing mari is going to have a bit of a strong effect on her.

[sergle]

also the way that person with the pink tags was so immediately ready to infantalize darshen and eager to go ohhh yes Responsible Heterosexual Man takes care of his Childlike Frail Homosexual Friend. like that was somehow more palatable of an interpretation than them just being together

[chaoscheebs]

Sometimes I wonder just how much knowledge of things the average Japanese teenager would never dream of knowing Yugi has thanks to stories from his grandpa and said grandpa's poker buddies.

Considering apparently knowledge of Russian vodka is somewhere in Yugi's metaphorical memory banks and, let's face it, manga!Sugoroku has a bit of a sleezy side, it is probably A Lot and Yugi will accidentally, metaphorically slap people in the face with facts someone that small and cute should not know, what the hell, Yugi.

[mybrainproblems]

hello, i'm finales georg...

i don't want to further clutter up the notes on this post while responding to the tags below but the persistence of the "finale is short/scenes are missing/extra ad break” conspiracies drives me absolutely bananas when i've watched the finale ten times and have posted about this A LOT trying to clear things up. (disclaimer that yes, i'm a goddamn destiel shipper but i care about Facts above all.)

ok but this is weird because i'd swear the episode was shorter (11 missing scenes!) but okay. maybe we all mandela effected ourselves into #beleving that. because it felt shorter. but i will die on the hill that it had another ad break. i understand this person has the thing #recorded with ads so i am thinking maybe different ad breaks in different idk time zones??? #because the finale did air an hour earlier in canada so maybe idk i am reaching here but maybe different states or whatever had different #ad breaks??? as for the last minute changes - wasn't the cover band asked for permission to use their version of carry on like a week before #the thing aired??? so even if the episode was 42 minutes and had no additional ad break - which i am side eying but lets say all was normal #i will always say they were changing thing until the absolute last minute (carry on my wayward son X 2 #the crew on the bridge which is not only giant 4th wall breaking but also wow they really got all those people in one place in times of #covid???) #anyway. tinfoil hat stays on sorry guys :/ (via @officialmisha)

short and snarky: there are plenty of real and sourced examples of network homophobia and scripted/directed destiel scenes being cut to point to. we don’t need to make this stuff up just bc the finale wasn’t what we wanted. so it’s not the mandela effect — it’s ppl repeating a conspiracy/rumor bc it supports their narrative and it’s easier and more fun to repeat something that supports a narrative they already believe (misha or something destiel was cut) vs the boring act of fact checking.

longer circumspect answer with links bc like many ppl i am in my debunking era and i rewatched "roblox_oof" last night.

like i said. i've watched the finale ten times. i’ve gone over the episode with a fine toothed comb and posted a detailed breakdown of timing marks on my blog. it’s actually extremely obvious where the ad breaks are once you know roughly where to look for them (they have a longer fade to black instead of a quick cut scene change). there’s no room for extra ad breaks and i think this conspiracy/rumor persists in part bc the episode feels so sparse in terms of cast and the fact that the episode’s momentum hits a barn post (and rebar) less than 20min into an hour-long programming block.

also i’m begging ppl to actually look at that timing mark post. it’s very straightforward and i spent a lot of time on it. i don’t care if ppl plagiarize it at this point if it means this conspiracy stops. i've got almost every second accounted for.

the "eleven missing scenes" that you're thinking of are probably from the finale script of questionable authenticity that @spnscripthunt acquired back in 2021 which can be found here. it's dated as the “final draft” from 11 sep 2020 and filming on 15x20 wrapped on 10 sep 2020. as noted at the bottom of this superwiki page "[the] script came from someone claiming to have been the person who did the closed captions for the show in Russia. There are some indications that it possibly may not be authentic, but this has not been confirmed."

if we go with the possibility that this was a transcript meant for subtitles, the "omitted" scenes were probably written but never filmed since it's the "final draft" and not a color revision (blue, green, yellow, etc). unfortunately, i’ve lost track of where i read it and a preliminary duckduckgo search isn’t bringing it up bc there's a program for script writing called final draft, but iirc the “final draft” version of a script is a transcript of what was filmed (e.g. there are parts of that 15x20 script that ended up being deleted scenes on the DVD). spnscripthunt also has an example of a confirmed final draft for 09x02 (funnily enough, also a dabb-penned ep). if anyone can confirm with a source that i have the purpose of the “final draft” version designation wrong, please let me know! i love being proven wrong with Facts.

i do want to acknowledge that the two “final drafts” do look different from each other and the 15x20 one doesn't look like a “real” final draft script since it lacks the revision/versioning dates that a script would normally have on the cover page. it could be that it was intended for subtitles; there's the chance it's been re-typed to anonymize it if there was anything indicating who the "owner" was, tho that seems a wee bit cloak and dagger to me. and again: it's considered of questionable authenticity. there are some things that don't quite line up but oh dear god i don't want to get even further out into the weeds than i already am.

i won't disagree that it's weird as hell that neoni only got asked about using their cover seven days prior to the episode airing (tiktok here). my personal theory is that they were hoping to get a more expensive song (maybe a zepp song, idk) and didn't manage to secure the rights in the end. again: this is pure conjecture on my part! but i could absolutely see someone working on the show hearing neoni’s cover and liking it and then maybe they were using it as a placeholder until it got down to the wire and they had to make a call/send the ep to networks. because yes, it is baffling they played a song and then a cover of it with only a 40 second break between. (i do actually really like the neoni cover! the placement is just weird and i think it could have worked if they had the kansas version at the beginning and closed with neoni's full cover.)

as to the 4th wall break COVID stuff: robert singer talked with variety magazine about filming the last two episodes and the logistics of filming during a pandemic. whether they should have been filming during a pandemic is a separate discussion but their use of office vs set pods, strict quarantining and daily testing meant that they had zero positive tests in the month they were filming (18 aug to 10 sep). so given all that, i personally don’t think it’s totally out of pocket to have everyone standing outdoors on a bridge for maybe an hour to get a drone shot of them together. (i won’t get into incubation periods and viral load, but if everyone tested negative that day and every day for a month prior, it was a fairly low risk scene to film outdoors and for all we know everyone was masked until the last possible second. there were plenty of outdoor masked protests in 2020 that weren't superspreader events.)

and before anyone brings up “but misha was in vancouver!” i know someone who looked into it and they said no dice, nothing matched up between the backgrounds in those pics and places in vancouver. his statements about “us” going back to set over the summer were pretty generic in hindsight and “we”/"us" could be him or the spn crew generally. unfortunately i’m not able to find those tweets but the use of “we” was likely so as not to give away he wouldn’t be returning to set. (bc we were absolutely casbaited!) and bc it comes up a lot: the "onion field pic" was from when they were filming 15x17 and was not taken while filming 15x19 and 15x20.

besides, it would be ridiculous to go through the financial and logistical headaches of bringing someone into the country to film during a pandemic, only to cut their scenes in the end! honestly, the script is pretty tight when the scenes are given so much breathing room! the only thing i could see being further cut down is The Monologue and even then, i don’t think there was any intent to cut it down given it was filmed in fairly long takes.

i’ve said it many times before, but i believe the finale was fucked long before they returned to set. walker got the green light in sep 2019 and it was being marketed heavily as a “follow on” show to spn given jared’s involvement. the demo they were courting for walker has little to no overlap with the demo for destiel fans — why would they want a finale that catered to a demo they weren't interested in courting? we just went through a historic double strike that exposed so much of the rot of business interests overriding creative vision. this isn't completely unfounded conjecture.

i will not apologize for the length of this bc i wanted to be thorough, but i do want to give context that i think the reason these conspiracies and rumors grind my gears so much is because anyone can fact check all of this. the truth is out there and absolutely none of it is that hard to find. the most time consuming/difficult part of this was finding someone who had a DVR’d copy of the finale from when it aired live and they actually found me themselves after i’d been low key asking around for a year!

and like. i get it. conspiracies are fun. but there are so many sourced instances of network homophobia and destiel being cut that it's like. why is this something folks are hanging onto? the cw is notorious for having upper level meddling with finales bc there's a follow-on show they want to shuffle fans along to and spn is no exception.

[lordkingsmith]

It would be deeply funny and interesting to me if we made a series where someone traveling, maybe a messenger or a highwayman or whatever picks up some penniless traveler “going to the house of his sister” in Ancient Greece and through context clues find out it’s a mortal!Ares. And the main character, the messenger/highwayman, was compelled by the god you worship. Who given the occcupations…is Hermes. He Owes Thanatos.

And the sister in question is Hebe. Ares is letting her know he’s alive (with proof-hard to argue against someone alive and well talking to you) so she and Heracles can wage war on the Olympians.

[hologramcowboy]

https://www.tumblr.com/hologramcowboy/728284613744754688/debunking-fandom-rumors-erin-and-jensen?source=share

Hi I may be late to the party on this but I want to thank you for this post. I was made aware of the rumor about Jensen & Erin last week. So I did my own research and found it to be total bs and not true. Nothing the person said makes any sense and can easily be debunked. I know you debunked some but I would like to add a few more for people reading your blog if that is okay.

-The Erin heading to Austin IG post now I am not totally 100% sure. But I think the pic used for the post was a pic Erin posted as a IG story. The post looked suspiciously photoshopped. The date of the post and the date on the pic do not match. So I think they used what she posted to IG story and made it a IG post.

**side note for everyone: there are sites that will allow you to fake IG and other social media posts. People need to keep that in mind incase a screenshot of a post doesn’t look right.**

-The quickie on set is definitely bs. Both Jensen & Erin are professional actors. They are not going to be wreck less to do something that will get them both fired. Plus like you said that would have spread like wildfire yet that person is the only one that knows. Besides only time we have seen anything of Erin & Jensen on set is the video where several of them was doing the light as a feather thing with Laz goofing around.

-The 2 IG story photos one that was supposedly wine with a card that said loved Jensen & one of them supposedly in bed together they don’t exist. It doesn’t matter if the IG story is up 30 seconds or less someone is going to see it and it would be everywhere in a matter of seconds.

-The necklace Erin has one in her IG post from September 4th they claimed was a gift from Jensen. That a friend whose husband works on the set of The Boys said it came from Jensen. If you look through Erin’s IG she sometimes wears 2 necklaces. But the gold one that she has on in her September 4th post you see pics of her wearing it in 2020. The Boys season 3 didn’t start filming till 2021 cause the world was on lockdown 2020. So how can he give her a necklace she is wearing way before meeting him.

There is so much more but I don’t want to take over your blog with it. But everything said can be easily debunked. I believe this person originally said it was Karen & Jensen that hooked up cause of pics of them together at official events for The Boys. But when Karen posted several posts with her long time love they switched to Erin. I see that Erin’s IG comments are basically limited now. This person harassed her so much she had to take that step. I know Jensen isn’t a lot of people’s favorite person but he doesn’t deserve to have rumors like that started about him. Erin doesn’t deserve to be dragged into it cause this person has som weird agenda. No one deserves it and I hope this person gets help and stop making up false rumors that has no truth to it.

Thank you so much for taking the time to break down more of the stories that person was spreading. My apologies for posting this only now but I've been fairly busy and so I tried to get in some down time. You weren't late in any way and your input is much appreciated. I wish people would take the time to gain more awareness about what happens online. I once got an SM message from someone claiming to be Jensen's manager and they were claiming Jensen really appreciated my comments and wanted to speak to me. Because I know my fair share about the industry and I also know what the online environment entails to a great degree, I absolutely did not fall for that but I did think that really young, inexperienced or perhaps naive people possibly could. That is just one example, there's also scamming, phishing, impersonation and so much more going on online that we really need to be very careful and set healthy boundaries. There are, for example, a lot of men posting as Misha or whatever and asking money from unsuspecting women. My point is, some do crazy things online and while I have not been fully able to identify the reason behind this person's manipulative stories about Erin and Jensen (aside from a huge obsession with both clearly), impersonation and then lack of responsibility, they clearly did not have the best of intentions and I never want to see people on the other end of buying into such stories. Thank you for helping us all stay safe online by communicating with clarity and informing about important truths.

[voxina]

[highendphsrs]

you know what i think we might get? i think we might get a trailer. didn't dylan say at some point that this entry was going to be a full feature length movie (and thus the end of the series itself)?

personally, i'm thinking around the end of the month... we might get a full on trailer connected to the teaser we saw on dylans channel. all this talk about a "film coming up in the near future" in the comments under the twigs short film (good film btw, you should check it out when you get the time) really points me to it. but idk, i could be wrong. maybe it's something completely different entirely ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[twopoppies]

https://x.com/andreaaminnella/status/1887044481284821447?t=ROPjJ61kO8JX7v-aL6i3_g&s=19

It's literally Alessandro, as we've been saying 🙄

People who met harry kept also saying that the only brunette he was with was Alessandro, but no there HAS to be a woman next to Harry!!

I mean… isn’t anyone rise tired of these idiotic rumors that people spread? Aren’t you guys tired of freaking out every time there’s an unsubstantiated rumor? JFC.

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[albertserra]

Some people on here should be banned from saying shit publicly like give them a notebook and a corner to sit and write in so they can leave the rest of us the fuck alone. Or a fucking noose