#plurisexual

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Multi- Lesbian Pride Flag

Multi or pluri-: attracted to more than one gender; attraction to multiple genders; umbrella term for identities such as bi, pan, omni, trixen-, tri-, and ply/poly-.

Lesbian: homo attraction to women; gay wlw/nlw; nonman loving nonmen (NMLNM); or being queer for fems/women (QLF/Q4F or QLW/WLQ).

[genderveld]

Multifluid Pride Flag

Since the end of Bisexual Visibility Month is quickly approaching I wanted to make sure this coining post came out on time! So here it is!

Multifluid - a orientation in which one is fluid between different mspec orientations (ex. someone who is fluid between bi and pan or fluid between bi, pan and omni). People who are multifluid may not necessarily be fluid exclusively between mspec orientations but identify as such to put emphasis on their mspec identity. It can be considered a form of abrosexuality that always encompasses more than one mspec orientation. 

This is an opt-in label for those who find the distinction useful, and shouldn't be applied to abros prescriptively without their permission. Always respect the self-identification of other people over what definitions they might fall into.

[ID: The multifluid flag. A pride flag consisting of 5 horizontal stripes. The stripes from top to bottom are wine purple, cornflower blue, spring green, lemon yellow and hot pink. 

ID end.]

Design Concept

The bottom four stripes are two sets of complimentary colors 60 degrees apart in hue to symbolize shifting between different orientations. The top stripe is the same hue as the bottom stripe but darker to connect the top and bottom of the design.

[slayter-kinney]

if you selected any of these answers, then this is your sign to spend some time this pride month reading “Bi” by Dr. Julia Shaw to learn more about bisexual identities, our history, the science behind bisexuality, current issues facing the bi community (such as the ever present biphobia and bi-erasure that unfortunately comes from within the queer community, including hesitancy to use the term bisexual because of negative stereotypes or misconceptions about what bisexual attraction is, and notions that bisexuals are just half homosexual and half heterosexual and therefore don’t have a place in the gay community) and more!

anyways, the book is less than 200 pages, is surprisingly easy to read for a non-fiction book, and takes a fantastic intersectional approach to bisexuality

[fandompridehcs]

Carl Fredrickson from Up is bisexual

[posi-pan]

do you have a multisexual history timeline? for the term itself (or related, such as plurisexual and non-monosexual)

i have this post, which has like ten sources for multisexual from the '70s to early 2000s. definitely nowhere near my pan timeline, but it's something. i'll eventually do more digging to hopefully add to it.

[stfudiscoinfernoed]

There’s basically 4 different viewpoints of the pan vs bi debate:

1) Semi-integrative: pansexuality and bisexuality are under an umbrella term (multisexuality, plurisexuality, etc); they are similar but separate sexualities

2) Integrative: pansexuality is under the bi umbrella, so all pansexuals are considered bisexual but not all bisexuals are pansexual (bi+ model)

3) Replacement: pansexuality is the more progressive, trans-inclusive version of bisexuality and should replace bisexuality

4) Resistance: bisexuality is the only term that needs to exist because it covers the diverse range of experiences others try to divide out into pansexuality and omnisexuality (you may have seen the term battle axe bisexual or bi separatist to refer to this stance before)

[heloflor]

Have a doc filled with Mario headcanons and wanted to share the sexualities part because fuck it, it’s still pride month.

Disclaimer since it’s relevant to this post : I headcanon that Peach, Daisy, Wario and Waluigi are all creatures from the world of the Mushroom Kingdom who look the way they do due to magic gems (those blue and green gems that Peach and Daisy have respectively). Peach is a Toad, Daisy is a Dino-Rhino (unless those flower people from Mario Bros acid trip Wonder are from her Kingdom, then again I like Daisy being a giant cool Dino, plus the trailer for Wonder showed several other big animals), not sure for Wario and Waluigi but they’re not humans. The Super Crown works the way it does because there’s one of those gems in it.

Also, since it’s briefly mentioned, what I call the “main” continent is made out of the Mushroom, Koopa, Bomb-omb, Thwomp, and Goomba kingdoms. Sarasaland (retconned into Flower Kingdom now ?) and other kingdoms are on other continents (yes I know in Superstar Saga the Beanbean kingdom is neighbors with the Mushroom. But since they never appear in other games, I’ve chosen to ignore that detail).

Anyways, onto the headcanons :

- Mario : Transmasc Aromantic Heterosexual ; he realized he’s aro after finding out Peach is a Toad and losing sexual interest in her (felt bad about it at first because he thought he fell out of love upon discovering Peach at her most vulnerable, Bowser made it worse for him by accusing him of liking her only due to her human form) ; him being transmasc is why he’s named Mario Mario (he thought it would be funny)

- Luigi : Cis Bisexual ; had a fling with Peasley + loves Daisy ; he’s gender non-conforming and sometimes shares clothes with Peach, he also trains his voice to be higher-pitched for the heck of it (+ it can help in case he has to take Peach’s place for a kidnapping)

- Peach : Demiromantic Pansexual ; is cis-passing in human form but is technically transfem due to being a Toad

- Bowser : Omnisexual ; Cis tho I like the idea of him being transmasc and birthing Junior’s egg

- Yoshi and Birdetta are T4T + poly (hence Birdetta flirting with others) ; Birdetta’s eggs aren’t actually eggs (insert joke about her “eggs” being white) ; not sure if “all Yoshis that lay eggs are female” but at least all those that lay eggs that can be fertilized are female (and on that note YOSHI MIGHT BE CANONICALLY TRANSMASC ???!!!) ; Yoshi is straight while Birdetta is plurisexual (bi/pan/omni etc)

- Daisy : Straight + intersex + transfem (imagine if Prince Haru from the 1986 movie was her appearance pre-transition, but remove the whole “Peach’s fiancé” part of the plot, or the plot as a whole since the events of this movie didn’t happen here, just keep Haru’s design as “Daisy before transitioning”)

- Big fan of the headcanon that Kamek is gay ; he doesn’t date because 1. He’s busy 2. He’s getting too old for this 3. He’s devoted to his son and grandchildren which takes all his free time

- Depending on which creature he is Wario would be cishet though I could also see him be plurisexual (bi/pan/omni/other label that has to do with dating more than one gender ; I like putting diversity in queer headcanons but I’m not the most knowledgeable on labels past the most common ones)

- Not sure for Rosalina, either aroace or she’s allo but just stays single due to her life situation ; probably non-binary (she/it, could also be a play on the fact that some see her as some kind of goddess)

- Pauline is Cis Lesbian and her and Mario parted on good terms after he came out as trans on top of other reasons (basically they still care a lot about each other but realized they were better off as friends, the whole “unknown aro + transmasc with lesbian” simply gave them an easier excuse to break up)

- Really not sure for Bowser's kids, the only ideas that are "set in stone" are that Ludwig is gay, Wendy is attracted to boys (doesn't meant she can't like girls), Lemmy is demi-boy (they/him) and Morton is attracted to girls (like Wendy it doesn't close the door for liking men).

Not sure for the rest, though I could see Iggy using he/neopronouns (likely xe/xem) and at least one of them being interesex. Btw the older kids say they don’t date because they’re busy with royal duties but the truth is they are just incredibly awkward + they can’t ask their dad for advice since he’s a romantic disaster

- I could see Toadsworth be aroace, since even in his younger years he cared more about raising his surrogate daughter than dating + he never pressures Peach into marrying ? In general he doesn’t seem to care about romance ? ; he’s also transmasc because Toad

- After seeing Bowser’s Inside Story and the beginning of Dream Team, Starlow is a lesbian crushing on Peach (is very buddy-buddy with Peach despite barely knowing her, makes a big deal out of Peach being kept safe, calls her “Peach” instead of “Princess” from the get go, at times seems to see Peach as the best person in the room)

- Toads and Goombas are naturally agender because mushrooms ; some choose to express a specific gender (ex Toadsworth, Toadette, Peach, the Toads and Goombas from the first two Paper Mario) ; some may use gendered pronouns even if their presentation doesn’t display any specific gender (ex Captain Toad using he/him despite looking like any other Toad) ; basically every Toad/Goomba that use gendered pronouns (or neopronouns) is technically trans and/or non-binary ; cisgender Toads/Goombas go by they/it ; the Super Crown gem gives the shape the Toad see themselves as but it doesn’t have to be cis-passing or even gender conforming, can be androgyne (Daisy took a while to figure herself out, hence her gem giving her Haru’s look at first ; she's not from an agender species but the way the gems work still applies to hers, hence mentioning how her being trans worked on that front)

- That previous point implies either all Toads have the same metabolism and thus all grow facial hair (Peach having to shave tho) or they have mushrooms that serves as HRT for those who want more “masculine” or “feminine” traits (hair/facial hair and tone of voice) ; the color of their hats has nothing to do with gender for Toads (ignore Nintendo’s weird obsession with making every female character in the Mario franchise pink)

- Sexual dimorphism in general is very rare/limited in this world (only the Beanbean kingdom has it ?), in “main” continent, Koopas are the ones where it’s the most present and even then it’s very minimal (genitals, who can lay eggs, possibly size but even then not really since Pom Pom is the only one smaller than her male counterpart, Wendy and other female Koopas aren’t particularly small)

- Toads (and other species) experimenting with gender could be due to seeing Koopas make the distinction between “male” and “female” and finding the idea of changing your appearance based on how you feel to be fun (even though you have the concept of male and female Koopas, there’s no transphobia in Bowser’s kingdom) ; by that point it’s common for Toads to change however they feel and go by any pronouns they want, just because they’re aware of the concepts of masculinity and femininity doesn’t mean they have to follow it to the letter with their pronouns unless they want to

- On that note, I could see Toadette as genderfluid, though she most often goes by she/her ; I could also see one or several of the other main Toads (Ala Gold, Bucken Berry, Captain Toad, "The" Red ToadTM) be bi-gender

- Not sure what’s going on with Waluigi but he’s definitely queer

[eroticcannibal]

Re men calling themselves queer - I was actually reading a study on how different demographics use queer, and a thing I found interesting is that cis queer women are more likely to be m-spec (phrased in the study as plurisexual) but cis queer men are closer to being 50/50 on being m-spec or mono, although the majority reported only having dated men.

Idk! I just thought it was kinda neat? The different ways our community uses terminology is kinda cool

Thats really interesting!

[epiceneandroid]

question for my followers:

is there any name, either for a broader term romantic orientation or even a more specific one, for someone who is attracted to all genders but binary men? it’s not like i don’t feel comfortable around binary men, it’s more like...i can foresee myself having romantic attraction to almost everyone BUT binary men. even nonbinary men i can see myself having attraction to, even nonbinary men who aren’t partially women, but binary men are not romantically someone i’d be attracted to. i’m sexually attracted to all genders, sure, so i figure sexual orientation wise i’m pansexual, but romantic orientation wise i don’t think i’d be quite that.

i hope this makes sense, but i feel like i have the romantic potential to be attracted to every gender EXCEPT binary men. i even feel uncomfortable with the concept of someone dating me being a binary man. what would you call this? i have attraction to binary women, nonbinary women, unaligned nonbinary people, multigender (bigender, pangender, polygender, etc spectrum) nonbinary people including partial men, xenine people, genderfluid people, people of one of my main genders (epicene),  kenochoric people, nonbinary men, androgyne-spectrum or femache spectrum people...really anyone except binary men. it’s not because of trauma, either; all of my crushes on binary men are either more on the nonromantic attraction side of things, they were on nonbinary men, or i was close enough friends with them for it to be an exception. what would this be? i use the label quoiromantic, and two different alters who use this blog respectively use “pan oriented quoisexual” and “lesbian” respectively (though my lesbian alter isn’t really into men period), but i can’t figure out what i am aside from some form of varioriented, definitely mspec, and MAYBE aspec but i’m not sure. any of my followers who know any lgbt or mogai terms can help? even a broad label like bisexual, polysexual, or (i’m fairly attracted to this specific label) plurisexual would be a help. i also use the term abrosexual (sexually fluid), as a result of being a system, and i figure i could just use that but i just need a good label to use in case i go to an irl lgbt club or meetup and my orientation needs a little too much wordy explaining. thank you!

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Femarsic Pride Flag

Femarsic, femmarsic, femmascic, masfemaric, femasric, or mascfemaric: an umbrella term for those attracted to men and women; being both mascic and femaric (either fluidly or simultaneously).

This includes those who are, for example: ambisexual/ambiromantic, abrosexual/abroromantic or otherwise m-spec; womasexual maromantic or masexual womaromantic; centriorientation and multiorientation of gyne- and andro-.

The flag was designed by duwang-flags-inc. The term was coined by me. Not to be confused with femascic or marsic.

[ooccoo]

it is 100% true that it is often other plurisexual identities that critique bisexuals for being exclusionary though. like i might not go so far as to say the label pansexual itself has biphobic origins but bc of its history and usage to this point (always self-defined in relation to bisexuality, often being touted as more inclusive than bisexuality) it is deeply biphobic and i am often wary of ppl who use it

[asearrochile]

Volvemos con el #MartesDeTestimonio! Hay quienes dicen que existen demasiadas etiquetas; Annie explica muy bien porqué a nosotres nos parecen una herramienta válida: pueden traer consuelo, respuestas a nuestros sentires y, si queremos, también comunidad. ¿Se es muy joven para decirse ase (y/o gay/lesbiana, plurisexual o incluso hetero, la verdad)? Si la persona tiene la edad suficiente para cuestionarse y pensar su orientación, tiene edad para ponerle nombre. ¿Y si es "una fase"? Da igual. ¿Qué pasa si luego ya no te identifica cierta etiqueta y/o si descubrimos/sentimos que otra (o no usar ninguna) nos acomoda mejor? Nada, es parte del autodescubrimiento (que bien puede ser algo constante) y cada quien es libre de usar los términos que apliquen y le ayuden a su experiencia por el tiempo que le sea necesario. Permitamos y respetemos los procesos ajenos, y en vez de imponer nuestra visión, percepción y prejuicios a otres, dispongámonos a escuchar e intentemos entender. Entendamos que no existen experiencias universales, y que las personas somos seres complejos ✨. #AseArroChile #Testimonio #Aspec #EspectroAsearro #Acespec #EspectroAsexual #Asexualidad #Grisexualidad #Demisexualidad #Demisexual #LGBT+ #LGBTQIA+ #Queer

[posi-pan]

Do you think the use of the phrase mspec is very popular? I feel like I see more people use just bi or maybe sometimes bi/pan. But I wonder, if the term mspec is popular if people purposely aren’t using it… like I’ll see a post that’s all about bi and lesbian solidarity and half the time I’ll go to OPs blog and it turns out they’re a panphobe. I wonder if people are purposely saying BI and lesbian solidarity as a big fuck you to any other mspec identity but maybe that’s just me overthinking it.

i feel like it's popular among non-bi mspec people and that's it. bi people who aren't exclusionists tend to use bi as the umbrella, and so do organizations. polysexual and plurisexual are used in more academic contexts, in addition to bisexual, as the umbrella term.

i think it's just a relatively new term. even i didn't use it at first. i used multi. so i think most people don't know about it. that's not to say there aren't people who purposely don't use it. i've had people defend not using it by saying bi is better as the umbrella because it's more known. but like....using it will it help it become more known????

as for people saying "bi and lesbian" sometimes it's because the person doesn't support other mspecs (or aspecs/other queers), sometimes it's well meaning or using bi as an umbrella, and sometimes it's genuinely because only bi and lesbian is being discussed.

so the only way to really know why someone is using a certain term or phrase over a different one is to check their blog/acc or gather context from the rest of the post. it's not as cut and dry as "everyone who doesn't use mspec hates non-bi mspec people" ya know?

anyways i feel like i got rambly and off topic lmao sorry

[stfudiscoinfernoed]

Your views are not as radical as you think. Accepting rampant individualism and the view individual identity labels cannot be wrong is not radical.

An integrative view of pansexuality (and omnisexuality) that seeks to overlook how these terms perpetuate fundamental misunderstandings of bisexuality and attraction to trans/nonbinary people in order to put these terms under some sort of umbrella (bi+, multisexuality, plurisexuality, etc) is not radical. It’s is a moderate and appeasing viewpoint.

It allows the continued misconception of bisexuality (and lesbianism and gayity) as trans exclusive and the misconception one needs a specific sexuality to be attracted to trans/nonbinary people. It allows the continued sidelining of intersex people by investing in the “binary sex vs gender spectrum” model.

It denies the ability to effectively combat biphobia by presenting biphobia as separate from “panphobia” or “omniphobia.” It denies the ability for a community to define itself by investing in the belief that a term can never rise above its etymology.

Investment in pansexuality is not radically affirming. It is harmfully regressive.

[imoga-pride]

Hewwo! Sorry for asking a question that is probably obvious/been answered before in advanced. Is there an 'm-spec' pride flag? I think I've seen something else that's the same--plural something maybe? Thanks for any help!

There are multi- flags but not specifically for multi- spectrum (mspec). But I can make one if you request.

A plurian flag

And a pluralian one