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I keep hearing one of the outworlders (07 I believe) complain that you lot don’t like him much - Is there a reason why?
Outworlder 007? Which one is that again?
Oh. That one. He's... I don't hate him as much as the high keepers do. But if he keeps messing with dark magic I may.
The problem is I don't think he even knows that the forces he's dealing with are evil. He just believes we limit him because we don't want him growing powerful. True– the High Keepers are scared, don't let that not be taken into account.
But beyond just the corruption, these methods he keeps using? They're unbalanced– not just in the unfair advantage they give him, but in the fundamental fabric of this Realm.
He already lost himself once, to the corruption. Power is twice as enticing and half as difficult to fall to. Outworlder 007 is lucky the High Keepers didn't just seal him away as they did the first four.
#transcribed by keeper 5002#side note: keeper 2812 REALLY doesn't like Outworlder 007#its actually funny to watch. 2812 is usually disgustingly saccharine#but the second 007 (or any outworlders#all rumors of course#sometimes I wonder if all it takes to become a candidate for High Keeper is being gullible#anyway. to be super clear#I myself don't mind Outworlder 007#he's kinda funny sometimes#but the High Keepers are TERRIFIED of his original realm#which I don't know much about#probably fearmongering again#//#trsmp#the realm smp#keepers of the realm#pangi
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Tbh as someone who lived their teen years through the Trump presidency this feels like a nightmare
#very much literally. the exact same vibes as a nightmare#sorry to my international mutuals for americaposting 🇺🇸 *eagle noises*#but i am a merican#the thought of all of those asenine tweets. the snl skits. blatant idiocy and fearmongering. i dont know if i can do this again#anyways with republican majorities in congress im probably going to get a passport. just in case i have to leave quickly.#i am not being metaphorical this feels like a dream. i thought we were past this. i thought he was a felon. how is this allowed#mine
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the absolute mentality of the U.S right now should be studied. I can't believe how accurate that saying about democrats snapping defeat from the jaws of victory is.
the old man was up against TRUMP. A convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, accused pedophile, misogynist racist fascist. All the buzzwords rolled into one extremist mental patient. Dems still pushed for Biden to resign because of his age. You know what the stats are for presidents to get a second term? Much higher than convicted felons being sworn in. Sure, Biden isn't ideal, but he is one of the very few qualified candidates who could beat the maga hordes right now.
Ok fine, he resigned. Might've been the selfless move, best for him personally. Dunno how good it is for the nation, probably pretty bad. What now, though?
Well, surely Harris will take up the mantle. V.P, experienced prosecutor, young, charismatic, not to mention extremely progressive to meet all the quotes of democrats. Nah, that would make too much sense. I've already been seeing people argue against her. "Biden's failures are hers too", literally parroting conservatives but switching up the issues, so that instead of said "failures" angering conservatives, they anger dems.
"Careful what you wish for, a black president is how we got trump". literally arguing against diversity and progress out of fear of retaliation. not to mention, its not because obama was black that everyone's a fascist now. Its because he was a convenient scapegoat for corrupt billionaire-controlled media to use for fearmongering and angering the swing voters into maga arms. They used him to radicalize their base and the democrat voters weren't keeping up. lazy voters is how we got trump. I say we, even though im not american, because trump is definitely a global disaster.
Stop your defeatist, pessimist bullshit. stop repeating conservative talking points and stirring up controversy for now reason. stop infighting and disagreeing over candidates and just fucking settle for anyone who's not trump. you're handing this election to the guy who'll end elections. don't be a lazy voter, dont let 2016 happen again. vote blue.
#196#r/196#196 campfire#text post#wolrithposting#long post#rant#serious post#us politics#biden#trump#joe biden#kamala harris#democrats#please vote#vote blue#project 2025
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Midnight Pals: Dark Days Coming
King: hey guys sorry i'm late King: i just could not get up this morning King: feels like I've been sleeping for days King: what did i miss? King: how did the election go? Lovecraft: not too bad King: King: oh no King: oh no oh no oh no
Lovecraft: don't worry steve it won't be so bad Lovecraft: I've heard assurances from the new regime that they only want the trade unionists King: King: King:
Lovecraft: i mean really steve Lovecraft: how bad could it be? [meanwhile] Donald Trump: we're gonna have the biggliest boot stamping on a human face forever Trump: we love the boot stamping on the human face forever, don't we folks? Trump: more and more people are saying they love the boot
Lovecraft: you're overreacting steve Lovecraft: what's trump even going to do? King: well i'm glad you asked King: [unrolls comically long scroll] Lovecraft: oh is this going to be a song
King: well for starters King: decimate reproductive rights King: LGBTQ rights King: labor rights King: civil rights King: accelerate climate change Lovecraft: [sweats] this is making me feel bad steve Lovecraft: i can't wait for trump to outlaw you telling me this stuff!
King: use the military to brutalize americans King: abandon Ukraine King: and as for gaza George Romero: in all honesty steve Romero: that probably won't change much King: oh look! an optimist!
Lovecraft: ok but Lovecraft: has he actually SAID he's going to do any of that? King: yes Lovecraft: oh he was probably just lying Lovecraft: he lies a lot Poe: he does lie a lot
Lovecraft: i think you're overreacting, he's probably not gonna do all the stuff he says he's gonna do King: so you don't believe him? Lovecraft: nope! King: king: then what's his appeal? Lovecraft: well he's just so honest
Lovecraft: a real straight shooter Lovecraft: tells it like it is Lovecraft: says what he means King: King:
King: howard please tell me you didn't vote for trump did you? Lovecraft: [sweats] steve! please! Lovecraft: i'm only a loveable archie bunker style racist Lovecraft: i'm still 100% yang gang King: King: King: i picked a bad day to quit cocaine
King: i really need some cocaine King: edgar you know where i can get some cocaine don't you Poe: steve stay strong Poe: you don't need cocaine King: just one bump King: to get me through the next four years King: i mean few days King: no i mean four years
King: how about a beer? i was an alcoholic too you know King: maybe i'll take that up again King: this is good drinking weather Poe: steve no Poe: dean help me hold him back King: don't try to stop me! Poe: no steve! you've got so much to live for! King: yeah? like what? Poe: well Poe: you've got a loving family King: Joe is pretty great Koontz: and owen! King: King: yeah and owen is alright too i guess
King: yeah he's pretty good King: what the heck, i can say it King: i love owen too! Koontz: and there's naomi too King: whoa wait a second, i have THREE kids?? King: this just keeps getting better!
King: thanks guys i do feel a little better Poe: good, hold onto that Poe: cuz it's going to be a long four years Lovecraft: only four years? i thought we weren't gonna have to vote anymore! Poe: Poe: good drinking weather, huh?
Joyce Carol Oates: huh, i really don't see why the electorate would hate trans people unless they were persuaded by hate speech and fearmongering JK Rowling: well well well look at the fancccy pantsss rich author Rowling: with her out of touch fancccy ideasss about a pluralissstic sssociety! Rowling: with her fancccy german automobile! Oates: this car was made in Guatemala
Rowling: you're clearly too rich to underssstand the feelingsss of the common man Rowling: unlike me, a true daughter of the proletariat Rowling: i know all about the material needsss of the underclassss Rowling: anyway i'm going to insulate my Scottish castle with big bags of money
#midnight pals#the midnight society#midnight society#stephen king#edgar allan poe#hp lovecraft#dean koontz#jk rowling#joyce carol oates#george romero
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Plainly expressing what is currently happening to the world, drawing conclusions about where these processes lead, using common sense and the lessons history teaches us time and time again, calling a spade a spade - it's not "defeatism" or "fearmongering." False hope based on ignoring reality, an ungrounded sense of calmness, is much more dangerous than a sober view of things.
All that to say... there is a high probability that we're fucked. It doesn't mean nothing can be changed. It doesn't mean people hold no power. It doesn't mean the worst-case scenario is the only one possible. But denying reality isn't helping.
Stop with the "oh, trump is just saying these things, look at his actions, not the words." Well, you know, putin was saying a lot of things too - before invading. Very similar things.
They are hiding their intentions in plain view, and still, some of you are like "hmmm, what does he mean?"
If he says he wants to invade sovereign countries, he probably - probably - means it. And no, he isn't scared of your posters and signs.
#pls don't come at me with hate#it's just a response to some of your comments/additions to my posts that grind my gears too much.#again i say it - i will be happy to be wrong. i want to be wrong.#politics
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So because apparently both parties in my country oppose trans healthcare to some extent I want to make it very clear to cis people what healthcare they're opposing.
There's a lot of fearmongering about children undergoing medical transition. So I'm gonna walk you through what might happen to a child who is transgender and wants to go the full medical route. Let's say our hypothetical transgender child, I'll make him a him because I'm a him and I'll call him Rat because he named himself when he was 6.
So Rat would probably, unless he experienced precocious puberty, go on hormone blockers at age 9 or 10, a year or two before he would start experiencing puberty just to make sure he doesn't experience any female puberty symptoms. Then at about 13 or 14 he would have an appointment with his doctor and they would decide that he has been sure that he was a boy for many years now and he's at an appropriate age to start puberty, at which point he would be taken off the hormone blockers and put onto a dosage of testosterone that is typically of what his perisex camab peers produce naturally. Because he never produced estrogen he would not have grown breasts and not need top surgery. He would develop exactly how his camab peers develop.
Now I want to put an interlude here that literally all of this is reversible. At any point Rat could change his name back and go off the testosterone jabs and his ovaries would start functioning again and they would produce the appropriate estrogen to give him breasts and hips. He could take the same vocal training classes that trans women take, he could get laser hair removal on the places where appropriate, and it would be as if he'd never been on the hormones at all.
But he doesn't want to do that. He wants a penis so let's move onto that.
As far as surgery goes, he would not be able to have either metoidioplasty or phalloplasty until he was on hormones long enough to experience the necessary bottom growth to occur, which takes a couple of years. (At least that was what I was told in 2016 please lmk if standards have changed since then). So at this point we're already about 16 years old before surgery even comes up as an option at the doctor's office. And Rat, if he is particularly gung ho about getting a penis and his parents can afford it/insurance will pay for it, probably gets put on a waiting list for a consultation with a specialist in genital reconstruction. Let's say at that consult which probably takes a few months minimum to get into, he opts for the most similar to perisex male genitalia: phalloplasty with testicular implants. Right there we're looking at at least three different surgeries and not all of them are going to happen at the same time. He's 17 before he's ever even on the operation table and he's been consistently identified as male since elementary school. This is the fastest possible bottom surgery route I'm laying out for you here and he still not slanging it until senior prom when he'll give it an ill advised test run in the back of his parents Subaru with Kelly from the anime club. All of that is assuming there's a doctor who will do it for him that can fit him in. Some people wait years for surgery.
Now some people get top surgery younger, but guess what, breast implants both exist and can be removed. If a 14 year old gets a double mastectomy and regrets it when they're 23 they can get implants. If a 16 year old gets breast implants and regrets it when they're 20 they can get those taken out. Top surgery is not complicated and I've heard from guys who truely would not have made it if they hadn't gotten theirs done.
I know this won't convince anyone who opposes trans healthcare but I hope it at least explains transition to cis allies who support trans people getting healthcare but still might think minors not being allowed to have surgery is a moderate position. I invite any trans person to add onto this with a MTF perspective or how their surgeries helped them.
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as an intersex woman- it'd be real nice if these people stopped throwing around the word "mutilation" and ignoring IGM (which is still practiced en mass even in "first world" countries) and our lack of bodily autonomy. a trans person (or even a cis person getting elective reconstructive surgery for a myriad of reasons, including IGM) getting bottom surgery is in no way comparable to actual mutilation against your will and it's such a slap in the face to see these people bitch about it while ignoring us. our medical records are literally hidden, destroyed, and altered for the sake of non-intersex people never having to contend with the reality of sex variations.
I bet they'd probably look at the stats on Intersex human rights and try to justify it away though, they sound like the types who want Intersex people to fit into their two perfect sex and gender boxes and never complain! thank you for not backing down, muddying the waters on mutilation- while the intersex community is still trying to fight to get IGM recognized and banned- harms IGM victims worldwide and disgusts me to my core.
Not to mention how many recent american bills banning or limiting elective trans surgeries conveniently still allow for IGM and the pushing of hormones on intersex children and adults who don't need them (again for the comfort of non-intersex people and the assumption we must be "fixed"...) very convenient for these people to ignore!
all of this! these people will act like the “western world” was totally against genital mutilation practices until the big bad trans people came along, when in reality it’s been happening right here at home the whole time.
the only reason they don’t see it (or at least act like they don’t see it) is because of intersexism and racism — intersexism that tells them that whatever’s being done to intersex people must be beneficial and medically sound because of course intersex traits should be “fixed”, and racism that validates their belief that the things happening where they live must be better than what’s happening “over there” because of course there are more human rights abuses happening in non-western places than in their good progressive home.
fearmongering about anything that changes the clitoris or vulva in any way being a form of FGM + downplaying the harms of IGM and saying it’s just good medicine = the perfect way to uphold their precious pseudoscientific sex binary for another day, i guess. as long as we’re all living with the genitals they think we should have, they don’t care who it hurts.
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Ranking old anti-piracy public information films on how effective I think they are at discouraging piracy
(Please note: this is a non-exhaustive list which is largely inspired by the psa's I saw growing up as a British kid in the 90's/early oughts, along with a handful of other ones I cherry-picked off the internet. If anyone else has a good one they'd like to add and commentate on, feel free to add it.)
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Beware of Illegal Video Casettes
Rating: 1/10
Riveting, innit.
If you don't want to watch this one I'll save you the trouble. It's a 35-second voiceover of a guy droning on about why illegal cassettes are no fun to watch and here's a number to snitch to if you find one. This was on videos I watched as a kid and it was basically just white noise as far as I was concerned. I only included it because I feel like it provides some important context.
I assume at some point after this had run for a bit someone from the Federation Against Copyright Theft was like "gentlemen, the situation is dire. Our boring announcement about illegal casettes is causing people to fall asleep ten seconds into watching it and miss most of the film they were planning to watch. Nobody gives a shit and they've started pirating more films just so they can avoid having to listen to it."
So the decision was made to Up The Stakes. If they wanted anyone to pay attention to anti-piracy ads, they were going to have to make them exciting. Dynamic! Terrifying! And thus, a new weird genre was born. Which brings me to...
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The Pirates Are Out to Get You
Yeah! Now we're talking! Look at this sinister motherfucker. He's out to get you! You don't want that, do you? He's got a branding iron, and apparently it doubles as some sort of firearm or perhaps a magical staff, because he can blow up a pile of VHS tapes just by pointing it at them! He even has flames for eyes, like a demon! Someone somewhere has probably put this guy on their hear-me-out list, and you'd better believe they'd want him to bring the magic branding iron with him.
Anyway, I have to give this one credit because I imagine it could very effectively scare the shit out of a little kid. I was a preteen in its heyday and I don't remember being particularly freaked out by it myself, but then again I was the kind of child who thought that getting a detention for talking in class might somehow result in me getting blacklisted for jobs when I grew up, so I was pretty susceptible to this kind of crime fearmongering.
Watching it as an adult mostly just genuinely cracks me up, because of how absurdly high-octane over-the-top it is, and then the voiceover says "Copyright is cool!" Which as a phrase just has this youth-pastor level of earnestness that makes me laugh even more ("you know who else respected copyright laws? OUR LORD JESUS.")
But as with a lot of these there's an underlying layer of sadness now, because seeing all the physical media being dramatically blown to pieces has begun to feel on-the-nose in a horribly poignant way. If only we knew. It wasn't the pirates we had to worry about, F.A.C.T. It wasn't the pirates. That scary guy should be wearing a suit and working on the board for an extortionately-expensive streaming service that you have to pay for if you want to watch that one show you like. Unless you decide to. Well. Do the pirating.
(He's still got the magic branding iron, though.)
Rating: 7/10. Bonus point awarded for committing to the bit.
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You Wouldn't Steal a Car
Here it is, lads! The classic! The ad that launched a thousand mad-libs memes. The ad that, somehow not content with making film piracy look inordinately cooler than it actually was while trying to tell people not to do it, decided to go the extra mile and make a few people toy with the idea of stealing a car too.
I can't decide what my favourite part of this one is. Maybe it's "YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A TELEVISION" and then the guy just running down the middle of the street with a 90kg TV in his arms. (The noughties were a simpler time.)
Maybe it's the footage of a teenage girl contemplating whether to download a film but it's shot like a scene of someone trying to diffuse a bomb, complete with her immediately hauling ass out of her bedroom after clicking "cancel" like the damn computer's going to explode. Maybe it's just the bizarre reverse-psychology "you wouldn't steal these things, but if you were going to, here's how to do it" messaging of it all.
I don't believe a single person has ever been discouraged from downloading films as a result of watching this ad. If anything some people probably either got the idea of doing it from the ad, or got so sick of being inundated with it that they started watching pirated films just so they didn't have to sit through the damn thing.
That said I think this one at least deserves some credit for surviving in the public consciousness for as long as it has. I've wondered before if it's one of those things that's going to be remembered for being parodied more than for the original version, like those old chestnuts "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up" and "it's eleven o'clock, do you know where your children are?" Like some of the people reading this have probably seen some variation like "you wouldn't fuck a helicopter" or "you wouldn't download a wife" in that same font and background but haven't seen the original ad.
Rating: -100/10
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Guitar Funeral
This was a new one for me, and the thumbnail was intriguing. When I was doing my half-arsed little youtube trawl I saw the occasional video like this that made me wonder whether I was about to mistakenly click on a harrowing video about someone talking about their experience getting kidnapped by actual pirates or something, and it would bum me out so much I wouldn't want to do the list anymore. Because seriously, how do you get this kind of emotional weight out of a "don't download music for free" ad?
This is how, apparently. I honestly can't tell if it's meant to be funny or not. My take on it is that it was supposed to be sincere. Like somebody watched a different psa for inspiration and that one had people crying at a funeral too, but it was about careless driving or something and the funeral was for an actual person. And that person was like "this. This is the atmosphere I want." and nobody had the heart to point out that downloading music doesn't really have the same repercussions as careless driving, so this is what we got.
Intentions aside it did make me laugh. That poor brave guitar. He had a family.
Rating: 4/10. Adding a bonus point for the sake of his poor kids.
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Disney VHS promo 1998
Oh, Disney. Disney, Disney, Disney. You gotta love 'em. The only one of these so far where the company spends ten whole seconds just raving about how great they are before they even bother to say anything about piracy.
Anyway, these promos were my childhood. Even before I looked up the video today I could recite "Mum it's no good, the picture's all funny! I can't hear it!" word-for-word from memory. I turn my house over looking for my keys which were in my hand a minute ago on a regular basis, but this child's voice is lodged in my consciousness forever.
Simple as it may be, this one in my opinion has a major edge over all the cop-movie shenanigans and guitar funerals and The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything Except Nuke VHS Tapes With A Branding Iron. Unlike with all those, the consequences presented in this one are firmly grounded in reality.
Oh sure, it says, you can pirate if you want. But the quality will be shit and your whiny-ass kids will bitch at you about it all day long. Is that what you want, Barbara? Do you want that on your plate, on top of everything else? You were hoping you could plop little Timmy down in front of The Lion King for a couple of hours while you took the time to call your mate Sandra for a chat and maybe finally finish Captain Corelli's Mandolin?
Well good luck with that, fucko, because Simba's face is riddled with static and Timmy's not going to let that stand. Are you proud of yourself? Proud of yourself for saving a couple of quid? Yeah. Go to Blockbuster next time if you know what's good for you. It's 1998 so that's still a thing.
So while I was looking this up, I discovered that there was an American version. It's almost the same as the UK version in script terms, bit with a few key differences. So I thought I'd do a bit of comparison.
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Notice how the child in the UK version simply plaintively announces a couple of criticisms into the void, before presumably shutting up and resigning himself to his fate. She's not listening, son. Get used to disappointment. Watching crappy old grainy videos builds character anyway.
The American kid, by contrast, really wants to labour the point. She can't watch this! It's no good! How come it's no good? She can't hear what they're saying! Well you know, Susie, it might help if you weren't talking over it non-stop the whole time. But hey, the persistence pays off, because she gets a reply! Albeit in the form of a hilariously unconvincing "oh no, that's terrible."
Also note that while the UK promo warns that "your children" will complain about the quality, in the US version it's "your family" you're going to hear from, which presumably means your husband is going to pipe up about it in a minute too. Maybe he'll decide to go and watch Dumbo at his secretary's house instead, because she buys the good copies. Is that what you want, Barbara? Is that what you were going for?
(I'm sorry, Barbara. You deserve better than this.)
Rating: 8/10
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Sharing
This one basically falls at the first hurdle by introducing some solid reasoning for distributing media amongst your friends and family. Sharing is good, it tells us. We should share things!
Thanks, Mr Psa! I'll take that message to heart right away. Oh wait, though, actually you shouldn't share. Sharing films and music and stuff is wrong. So what was all that crap at the beginning for, then? Why did I have to hear about your puddin' pops before you got to the point? Make up your damn mind.
I'll give this one props for coming in with a good-faith approach. Hey, it's ok, says this ad. We know you didn't mean any harm when you showed that grainy bootleg copy of Epic Movie to all your mates. You were just sharing! It's such a nice kind thing, isn't it. Sharing. Yeah? You like sharing?
How'd you like to share a PRISON CELL, motherfucker??! Yeah, that's right. Fuck you.
Rating: 1/10
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Never Illegally Download
Masterpiece. Sheer perfection. No notes.
Rating: 100/10
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"Script"-A-Day #-2: "Fuck You." Said The Fuck You Guy by Squ4ll
Yeah that's right I'm covering crappy joke scripts for a whole week
"Featured" characters: Choirboy, Heretic, Kazali
Fabled characters: All of them (notable ones: Doomsayer, Duchess, Ferryman, Fibbin, Revolutionary, Sentinel, Spirit of Ivory, Storm Catcher, Toymaker)
Complexity: Expert (Cognitohazardous). Recommended for literally nobody. This might just be the worst script ever.
Jinxes and stuff under the cut, because there's a lot of them:
Jinxes:
Bounty Hunter / Kazali: An evil Townsfolk is only created if the Bounty Hunter is still in play after the Kazali acts.
Heretic / Pit-Hag: A Pit-Hag can not create a Heretic.
Pit-Hag / Goon: If the Pit-Hag turns an evil player into the Goon, they can't turn good due to their own ability.
Scarlet Woman / Fang Gu: If the Fang Gu chooses an Outsider and dies, the Scarlet Woman does not become the Fang Gu.
Scarlet Woman / Al-Hadikhia: If there are two living Al-Hadikhias, the Scarlet Woman Al-Hadikhia becomes the Scarlet Woman again.
Vizier / Fearmonger: The Vizier wakes with the Fearmonger, learns who they choose and cannot choose to immediately execute that player.
Kazali / Goon: The Kazali can choose that the Goon player is one of their evil Minions.
Kazali / Huntsman: If the Kazali chooses the Damsel to become a Minion, and a Huntsman is in play, a good player becomes the Damsel.
Note that because there’s no Damsel on the script, any Huntsman token that goes in the bag must be the Drunk, so this jinx doesn’t actually do anything in practice.
Kazali / Choirboy: The Kazali can not choose the King to become a Minion if a Choirboy is in play.
Note that because there’s no King on this script, any Choirboy token that goes in the bag must be the Drunk, so this jinx doesn’t actually do anything in practice.
Legion / Minstrel: If Legion died by execution today, Legion keeps their ability, but the Minstrel might learn they are Legion.
Make sure to clarify with your players how you’d run this: I’d personally opt for something like showing the “THIS PLAYER IS” token, pointing to the previous day’s executee, and then showing the Legion token, but you could probably get away with just showing the Minstrel Legion at the start of the night.
Writeup below!
"Fuck You." Said The Fuck You Guy is. Hm. Actually, let me just show you what Squ4ll thinks of it:
This script reeks. It's not good. There aren't even any fun 15-player Kazali setups, because both of them have a Heretic guaranteed in-play so the Kazali just makes themselves a Minion and instawins. I hope you weren't waiting for me to show you a grim picture at the end of this, because there won't be one — I would never subject this upon anyone who liked Blood on the Clocktower.
If, for whatever god-forsaken reason you decide to build a bag for this script... I don't have many tips for you. Characters like the Professor, Tea Lady, and Pacifist can hard confirm themselves and other players as good, so give evil the tools to deal with them - mainly a ton of killpower or a Pit-Hag to Fang Gu jump them later on. Or, like, put a Heretic in play, because that'll *totally* balance things. Speaking of the Pit-Hag: if you put it in, you're signing up for Pit-Hag shenaniganery: invisible hags into the Drunk, turning good players into the Scarlet Woman to waste executions if/when they become the Demon, typical Fang Gu stuff, making a good player a singular Legion for kicks (and to force an execution), using good character abilities like the Snake Charmer and Gossip against town... there's a lot. Maybe avoid it when you can?
Anyway, some of these Townsfolk kinda suck (Gossip in a non-Alhad game, Huntsman, Choirboy) and the others are broken (Dreamer, Tea Lady, Pacifist, Minstrel). Similarly, some fo these Minions really suck (Fearmonger, Vizier) and the others are broken (Pit-Hag, Scarlet Woman). Match like with like, when you can. Notably, because there's neither King or Damsel on the script, any Huntsman or Choirboy must be the Drunk — factor that into a bagbuild when determining the Outsider count!
Some notes:
Note how the Spirit of Ivory works with all the characters which cause an extra evil character, and consider how they function when you bagbuild:
If there’s a Bounty Hunter past setup, they make an evil Townsfolk and fulfill Spirit of Ivory for the rest of the game. This means that a chosen Goon will always stay good, and a Fang Gu can never jump (instead of jumping, it’d just kill the chosen Outsider dead).
If the Fang Gu jumps, the new Fang Gu fulfills the Spirit of Ivory. This means a chosen Goon will always stay good.
If the Goon flips evil, while that Goon stays evil the Spirit of Ivory is fulfilled, so the Fang Gu can’t jump while they’re evil. This means evil might have to get a good player to flip the Goon back to allow the FG to jump (though I'd honestly just avoid them in the same bag) and no future Goons (via Pit-Hag shenaniganery to turn them out of the Goon to turn someone else into the Goon) can flip evil.
Be careful what you show as the wrong character to a Dreamer. Consider showing dreamed good players as Minions more often than you otherwise would during the early-game if it could reasonably be a Legion game (i.e. it's not an Al-Hadikhia game), and consider showing dreamed evil players without bluffs as a hidden Outsider or the Snake Charmer to let them bluff their way out of faux-confirmation. (That "hidden Outsider" thing includes the Heretic, btw, if you want to get spicy with it.)
To be honest, I just wouldn't add a Gossip to an Al-Had game. If you do, though, kill one of the 3 Demon choices with a true Gossip so they can just be painted as evil together with the killed player being a lying evil.
The Minstrel is one of the only reasons to have zero deaths at night, so can easily confirm themselves. Similarly, the Tea Lady and Pacifist are the only reasons for a player to survive execution: if kills are ST-directed, kill those confirmed goodies earlier than you otherwise might to avoid the evil team from just losing.
This script isn't good, so I wasn't going to cover the Heretic. But I figured I'd do my due dilligence: be careful with balance, and consider what's fun. There aren't many ways for good to confirm a Heretic (it's just Dreamer and Gossip, and the latter's info can be invalidated by a potential Yaggababble), and like all Townsfolk, they're susceptible to dying early and leaving it to socials. In a highly good-favored setup, the Heretic might give evil an out they wouldn't otherwise have to tip the scales, and vice versa, but just be careful and do what's fun.
Fearmonger/Goon is... a whole rules interaction. The writeup says something to the effect of:
On future nights, if the Fearmonger chooses the player with the “Fear” reminder token, make no announcement, but if the Fearmonger chooses a player without it, move it and make the announcement again.
But does the token stay if the Fearmonger is Goon-drunk? I'd argue not. So, if the Fearmonger drunks themselves on the Goon (causing no announcement), there's no reminder token placed and if they re-choose that Goon the next night and don't drunk themselves, an announcement goes out as the reminder gets placed.
Just don't put a Scarlet Woman in an Al-Hadikhia game. When the Al-Had passes the Demonhood, they can resurrect their Demon, turn back into the SW, and keep that loop going until final 5, which isn't particularly fun.
In a Legion game: if you're actually running Legion on *this script*, then god help you. Make sure you don't have too much hard confirmation for good, since you can get stuck in double binds where you'll have to decide which team wins with the ST-decided kills of Legion. Flip the numbers, and if you choose to add an Outsider, remove a Legion to do so.
Just don't run this script. Please. I beg you.
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Re: the sovereign individual worldwide revolution, etc
Yeah, you're sadly not wrong. I don't think I have the qualifications to immigrate to the EU anyway (bachelors degree, 5 digit net worth, experience mainly in manual labor and sales skills that don't translate outside the anglosphere), but even "cool my heels in SEA while all hell breaks loose" is seeming less workable. Have considered teaching English in China on and off over the years, but I think that ship has definitely sailed.
Sadly, it may be a "fight them here so nobody else has to fight them anywhere else" type scenario. And I'd be a hypocrite if I turned and ran rather than helping my parents hold onto the family farmhouse and little piece of the Midwest. Gotta stand for something, I suppose.
I wish this problem hadn't come in our time, Gandalf
to torschlusspanikattack:
Tech right is scarier due to scale of intended operations and oppression.
The Religious right wants to make it 1952 again, oppress queer people, and make everyone else LARP as Southern Baptists. Obviously, this would suck, but I grew up in a red state, as a secretive agnostic, and it's survivable. It wasn't ideal, I ended up with weird neuroses about being horny for women (despite being a straight cis man) and at least one of the lesbian girls in my school got beaten up by her teammates for being gay. Many things sucked, but we made it through, and many people were more tolerant than you'd expect.
Queer culture would have to go back underground, probably centering in bluer cities where the authorities would turn a relatively blind eye to it, some really fucked up stuff would happen around abortion rights, but I'm not foreseeing death camps for gay people or anything of that nature. And religious right-ists are barely even racist, as long as you're vocally Christian.
Trad/racial Right wants to make it 1952 again, have lots and lots of cops, put more people in jail, end immigration, and do DEI for white people. Obviously, many of the outcomes of this would be shitty and cause lots of suffering, but again, we made it through 1952, we'd survive. There are some legitimate death-camp Nazis in there, but I don't think that subset would outweigh the rest, even if the were to operate unopposed. Yes, the rate of hate crimes would go up, and it would likely be very dangerous for some people, but the will to do extermination just isn't there.
The Yarvin/Thiel/etc crew are fucking insane, and want to institute a regime that would repress or outright kill significant percentages of the population. It'd be feudalism without the mitigation of any sense of noblesse oblige, church ideas of duty to the poor, and the economic need to at least keep the peasants alive to harvest the crops. If they ever have AI that can do significant amounts of work for them, why would they keep the rest of us around?
That last part is slightly fearmongering, I'm really going through it lately, and don't get me wrong, there are LGBT people and minorities in my family that I'd be afraid for no matter what. But the tech-"libertarians" are seriously enemies of humanity at large. I'd take my chances with Mussolini or most medieval kings over them. The whole ideology is Pol Pot, Hitler, etc. levels of dangerous.
@torschlusspanikattack
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Those who claim to care about women
There is this thing about the right wing, that I recently find very, very noticable. The way they claim to care about women, while they actually hate women so much.
I am currently living with a fairly right wing roommate (who obviously claims to be "neither right nor left", as they often do, but obviously is on board with most right-wing stuff, especially when it comes about anti-immigration fearmongering). And when he talks about usual right wing talking points he will again and again will claim it is "about the women". What if a man claims to be a trans woman to get into a place to harm women? What if those immigrants harm women? And the sex work, it is so hard on the women! Those poor, poor women. Also, trans women in sports are cheating. Intersex women in sports are cheating. Because women are very weak and in all ways lesser than men, so men need to protect them.
But the fact is of course, that there is no harsher threat to women than right wing men. And mind you, this is very universal. Because right wing men are always patriarchal - and always for harsh gender norms. And yes, those scary Muslim terrorists who are against women's rights like the Taliban are right wing. Because, again: Right wing says that people want to have harsh hierarchies in society.
And mind you, there is of course this fact. When right wing in the west talk about "protecting women", they mean "protect white, cis, abled, young, pretty women". They have no interest in the non-white women, in the trans and intersex women, in the old women, the disabled women, and ugly women. They want to protect women as objects they can own and as breeding machines for their children. But not as people. Which is why they are so much against women's rights. They are against abortion. They are against protections against rape - at least as long as rape is something that originates from white cis men. Once they can fearmonger about non-white men or trans women raping cis white women, they will of course be the first to do it. They want to have child marriage legalized, so they can marry girls as young as 13. And they only want female characters in media, if the characters are designed for them to masturbate to them.
That is why they get a meltdown over most female characters these days, because those are allowed to be characters with agency. They do not want women with agency. They also will have a meltdown if a female character does not look like a Barbie-doll, but like an actual woman. They will call it ugly. Because a character just looks pretty, but in a more attainable way. They will also cry if the superheroine fighter has muscles and broad shoulders, because they personally do not want to fap to it.
I mean, let's face it: Those right wingers, who have those youtube channels (be it shadiversity, or critical drinker, or... basically fuck, I do not even know what they are all called) decrying "woke media" spent actually half the time crying about female characters in media. Every other topic (queer characters, trans characters, non-white and disabled characters) together makes up the other half. But most of the time they will cry because "women has agency" (in their view often "woman hates men") and because "women not pretty enough for me to masturbate to, this is a personal attack against me!!!!" I mean, just look how much they cried about She-Hulk. While it was probably the MCU show I enjoyed most (because it was more episodic and I liked the humor), it was very, very tame. Like it was about a white straight woman. But they had collective cries about it, because there are a couple of scenes in this show that talk about how shitty most men treat women. Something that simply is a fact. Most men treat women shitty. Especially men like them. But how dares Marvel or the actress or the director or whoever to call this out?
Or, like... Remember how Shadiversity had a fucking meltdown over Princess Peace wearing her Mario Kart outfit, rather than wearing a dress?! lol It is so fucking pathetic.
They also just... I mean, right wingers are so pro-capitalism, which has made it so that you barely can support a family even with two incomes. But then they complain about women working - even though this is just hardly avoidable because of the capitalism that they personally think is so fucking amazing.
And I mean, sure. It is clear that mainly they just fall for the prevailing narrative. It is after all the top 0.1%, who basically want to make sure the people are angry at minorities, so that the people will forget to be angry at the 0.1%. But for fuck's sake. It is so dumb. And it is so annoying to have those cis dude cry about the dangers to women, while they not realize that they are the biggest danger to begin with. Because they are. And they do not want to hear that.
#right wing extremism#right wing bullshit#anti capitalism#anti patriarchy#fuck the patriarchy#feminism#vent
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(sorry for the potential lack of clarity, I'm a little high) I have only recently been exposed to the term "Transandrophobia" (funnily enough, you were one of the first blogs to introduce me to the concept, I followed you shortly thereafter), however, I have been witnessing the actual phenomenon itself well before then. I've been on Tumblr for approximately 10 years (and had been online /well/ before that), and I fully remember when the fucking "theyfab" shit kicked into high gear. This is, unfortunately, not at all a new occurrence—you just had to be unlucky enough to be in the wrong sector of the internet.
Anyway, I just wanted to say I'm sorry for all of the bullshit you now have to go through online, especially on top of your family treating you so horribly. It probably doesn't mean a whole lot as I'm a random anon, but I am in your corner.
As a nonbinary trans guy, they will not get rid of us that easily—no matter how much they'd like us to roll over.
-SF
RE: https://www.tumblr.com/ghostboyravenight/784189421423575040/i-really-do-try-to-be-positive-on-this-blog-or?source=share
Aw, I really appreciate it thank you <33 I was definitely aware of the phenomenon of transandrophobia, before I had a word for it, but only in an irl setting. Being British, it doesn’t take long to see the mainstream media fearmonger about young girls getting “rapid onset gender dysphoria” and being “mutilated” and shit on a daily basis, and then having that fear be parroted by your own family, so I definitely knew what wider society felt about us.
But, I just didn’t imagine that shit had started to infiltrate the trans community until now, which was extremely disheartening to see after all the progress we had been making. But as someone who’s been studying radfem ideology for fucking years now, I feel like I have some kind of duty to stick around and call it out when I see the red flags, because the majority— if not all— of transandrophobia talking points has been directly repackaged from radfem ideology without people even realising, because a lot of people don’t take much notice about how radfems also affect trans men (and non-binary and intersex people).
I guess all I can do is at least try to spread more awareness about it as much as I can, and yeah it becomes a bummer sometimes (I definitely need to learn to take breaks when my mental health isn’t up to dealing with this shit) but I’m very thankful for the community I’ve found on this blog. And again, I really appreciate this ask, and I’m in your corner too 💕
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Discord Chain Letter Warning
Hey folks, you probably have seen a chain letter mentioning DomoAI going around, probably looks like the first image I've attached. This is not true. This is fearmongering.

I've gone more in depth about this in this post. Due to not wanting to ABSOLUTELY FLOOD people's feeds though, I'll put it behind a read more.
1: The reason you can actually ban the bot is because you can ban literally any user or bot using the /ban command and a numerical ID, regardless of if they've ever been in your server. Hell, you can even do it to deleted users and deleted bots! I banned MEE6 in a private server it's never seen before for shits and giggles. Just for a test, I also banned Midjourney (a bot that I know I don't share any servers with) and that also worked.
EDIT: People have told me that the ban command doesn't work on DomoAI, so I tested it with the ID provided in the chain letter.
Yup, it does work.
Also fun fact: This function of the ban command is actually incredibly useful for moderators when they have to ban someone who will do harm if they even get in the server. It's great for raid prevention, preemptively stopping ban evasion, and if you know someone who's been doing significant harm in DMs or in other servers, you can toss them too!
2: This is not an "official partnership" between Discord and DomoAI, it's just another application in the app directory, think of the app directory as Discord's built in search engine to find bots for your server. Discord is in no way shape or form forcing this into any server. Hell this isn't even new, ChatGPT and a few AI image generators like Midjourney are in the app directory too!
[the first attached Discord screenshot is not mine, but goes over how the Discord system works and compiles info from DomoAI's announcement]

3: DomoAI does NOT train off of the art you post in Discord servers, as that is against Discord's TOS. They also clearly state it in their announcement (yes, i read their announcement) and I've attached it to this message. If DomoAI did so, it would be incinerated quite fast, and there's precedent for this happening too. Shapes AI (basically character.ai but discord bots) got banned off Discord for training AI on Discord content among other things, NTTS has a whole ass video on it going into the laundry list of issues with shapes but it's rather long.
TLDR: Internet chain letter fearmongering strikes again.
DISCLAIMER: I am in no way defending DomoAI or any AI image generator, I'm an artist too, I heavily dislike generative AI. I understand if this chain letter scared you, and I do not fault you for it, but just remember it never hurts to do a little digging.
You can also still ban the bot in servers you have moderator permissions in if you still want to ease your worries, but there's generally nothing to be afraid of.
Feel free to reblog this, though I won't force you.
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People need to stop panic posting, 4chan wont be down forever, a while sure, but the biggest consequence of this will probably be some other altchans capturing attention until the big ol' clover is back up again, its unlikely Tumblr sees a big flock of anons. The only thing this means for 4chan is that theyre now forced to update their already outdate backend infrastructure.
I feel that a lot of this "fearmongering" comes from thinking all of 4chan is just /pol/ or /r9k/. Most of the website is not even half as bad as most believe.
At best, you'll find decent people that share similar opinions and cool artists. At worst, people should be careful on what they click on and the site was for 18+. Can apply that to mostly everywhere on the Internet in general, even on sites like here, Twitter, Youtube Reddit, etc.
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I know this type of fic will seem strange, but do you remember where Cinder in the first book says that everyone will be aware of what Kai does, and that he will forget her, if this happened as an alternate universe, do you really believe that Kai forgot? of it, or remember it as nostalgia for what could have been as couple
Thanks your for your answer
I intended for this to be a five sentence response. Ha.
(Remember?)
He doesn’t remember her.
Granted, he doesn’t even remember what it feels like to take a full, unstrained breath. Kai is a busy teenager, a grieving son, an ill-prepared emperor and then the happiest widower alive. He can’t pretend to not be overjoyed by his wife’s untimely passing after her brief but bloody one-year stint as empress. The Earthen population didn’t seem to mind much either when the evil Lunar queen was assassinated in her bed by a group of revolting malcontents.
Kai only remembers her when the storm takes mercy on them and calms. The girl at the marketplace. Who’d never worn the gloves he’d given her to the ball she hadn’t attended. The brown eyes he’d never seen again. As the New Beijing Market celebrates a new era of peace with streamers and lanterns and sticky buns, Kai is pulling on his grey hoodie and weaving through the crowds to an unmarked booth. Instead he finds the musty, dark store replaced by a coffeé vendor. The nearby sellers tell him the young mechanic skipped town.
(Kai does remember her joking prod in the elevator, offering up that she was planning to run away to Europe. Now, Kai doesn’t think it was all that much of a joke.)
He searches for her, briefly. Her name turns up no more net results than what had been there the first time he’d sought her services. In checking government records he learns that her guardian reported the disappearance, inciting a police investigation. He has his own staff put on the case, who probably interpret this as a conscientious initiative to apprehend a fugitive as any responsible emperor would.
Reading the conclusions from the fruitless search by his agents, this is where Kai learns that Linh Cinder is a cyborg.
Something blankets him. Not...disgust or revulsion. Thick, encompassing understanding. He’s near laughter when it strikes him precisely between his third and fourth ribs because he knows that it doesn’t matter if he finds her.
The gloves. The obfuscation. A cyborg, an emperor. This is why she rejected him.
After this, the expressed need to find find find her feels vain. Find her and what? Tell her that—although he likes her—a cyborg would never be accepted by the public as his partner? Then he’d be tearing her away from whatever sanctuary she’s found herself in and subjecting her to capture by the authorities. Because she has cut out her ID chip—illegal. Fled the country without a permit—illegal. Disobeyed orders from her guardian—illegal for cyborgs. Whatever Imperial pardon he could try to extend would be nullified by the Cyborg Protection Act.
It doesn’t matter. She hasn’t been found. He’s no luck at searching for things anyway. That’s why he gave up on Selene. What’s one more thing to give up on?
So Kai doesn’t remember her. But he does revise the Cyborg Protection Act. He is appalled to discover that—despite having Levana’s antidote in his tenuous possession—the cyborg draft is still in operation. Luna is not a trustworthy government under regent Sybil Mira, they fearmonger. They might still need to develop an antidote of their own, they reason.
Both Earth and Luna are barely refraining from seeking blood as it is. After Levana was assassinated, Luna declared full-scale war on Earth, killing hundreds of thousands. Earth retaliated by detonating bombs on the craters of the moon, threatening that next time they wouldn’t spare the inhabited domes. The ceasefire went as follows: Luna and Earth would not intermingle. Luna would provide Earth with the Letumosis antidote in exchange for Earth sending Luna their desperately-needed supplies. No one deemed this agreement as trustworthy. No one had better ideas.
His decision to end the draft is met with mixed response. Kai just secretly hopes that Cinder is watching, holed up in her new musty, dark booth in her new European city with a flicker of pride.
Years past. Funnily enough, Kai learns that—at some point—pretending to forget and forgetting are not so dissimilar.
But sometimes he sees a malfunctioning android down a palace hall and remembers her steady gloved hands on Nainsi. Sees a woman with almost the right shade of brown in her hair and eyes and skin but never close enough. Yet each time, he collects himself, shakes his head and doesn’t give in, and when he marries a second time to a woman he actually wants to be with, his wife’s radiant smile expels any romantic thought of any other girl that has ever crossed his mind.
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Fourteen years. That’s how long it takes for his loose threads to finally fray. Kai is in his office being briefed by Torin for an upcoming public statement by his cabinet. It has taken fourteen years after Levana’s death to fully uncover all the scrupulously concealed records of the atrocities she committed. As former empress, her crimes have to be reported by the Eastern Commonwealth, though no reasonably-minded Earthen would attribute her crimes to anyone but her own wicked self.
This report intrigues him. It’s not the usual analytics of Levana’s sins against the Earthen public, rather a detailed list of all the Lunars she victimised.
“Why are we reporting this?” Kai asks Torin, keeping his daughter from bouncing off his lap with steady hands. “What Levana did to the Lunar citizenry is beyond our scope of responsibility.”
“Not those on Luna, Your Majesty,” Torin informs. “This report refers to the illegal Lunar refugees who were hiding on Earth.”
Kai vaguely recalls Levana screeching once about how she would kill all the Lunars he had insubordinately smuggled into the country. He hadn’t believed that there were any Lunars on Earth at that naïve eighteen, but a thirty-three-year-old Kai is not surprised. He scrolls past the initial pages of exposition and gets right to the list of victims. He wants a number. How many Lunars were there really on Earth? That day on the balcony, when Levana had claimed that there had been a Lunar among those protestors—had it been true?
It’s page eight that he sees her name.
Linh Cinder. Cyborg. Lunar. Licensed mechanic in New Beijing. Records found to be falsified. True age unknown. True name unknown. Date of immigration unknown.
Cyborg. Lunar.
Kai’s hands are shaking. He places his daughter on the ground. “Torin,” he wheezes, “take her to her mother.”
His daughter’s soft, “Daddy? Was wrong?” goes unanswered.
Once they’ve left the room, Kai is alone with the horror lying in his hands. He clicks on her profile and a full page with her name and portrait appears. It’s a mugshot, but without the official stamp of the Earthen Union law enforcement, he knows it was Levana’s own team of minions doing the arresting. Her hair is loose, glossy and slick. Her eyes defiant but sunken into dark sockets. Her cheeks are full. She was not starving, wasting away in poverty. Evidently she did manage to make a life for herself on the run.
The biography is short. Linh was reported missing by her guardian on 28 August 126 T.E. at 08:31. CCTV footage shows her driving a second-era automobile from New Beijing to France over the course of 8 days. Linh hid in Nice for 7 months using a false ID chip and started a small mechanic business. Records of an apartment lease were found under the false identity. She was discovered by Lunar authorities when a mandatory Letumosis blood test identified Lunar genealogy in her genome. She was swiftly sentenced and executed without a trial on an unknown date for crimes of illegal departure from Luna.
That’s it. The only information. It limns a tale of another victim of the tyrant with not a stroke of sympathy. Kai thrusts down the port, clawing his hands through his hair.
Cyborg. Lunar. Executed.
He calls his wife.
The line clicks immediately. “Honey, is everything okay?” asks his wife, concern cooling her timbre. “Torin said you were all out of sorts.”
His words are faint. “Hey, love, do you remember that girl I liked before you?”
He can hear her smile. “The mechanic?”
“Yeah.”
"What about her?" her voice heaves and Kai hears a small giggle; Torin has brought their daughter back to their quarters. His wife is picking up the heavy three-year-old.
He has no strength to censor himself, even with young ears present. “She’s dead. Levana killed her.”
A long silence. The thread being pulled, pulled, pulled as the fraying creeps up to the heart of it. The girl whispers to her mother, “who Mummy? Who’s Daddy talking ‘bout?”
Her mother doesn’t explain. “Oh, love, I’m so sorry,” she consoles plaintively in that genuine lilt he knows is sincere. His superlatively gracious wife has never judged him for his grief over the lost cyborg, for regretting he couldn’t help the troubled young girl from a bad home. Never has she assigned ulterior motives of him mourning ‘the one that got away’ in some jealous plea for validation.
He says nothing. He had forgotten her brown eyes, her smile and her gloves. The sarcasm and the pessimism. Each detail had slipped away and now a single photo, an unuttered apology, is trying to resuscitate the dead.
“Are you okay? Do you want to talk about it?”
Kai reclaims his port and returns to the cover page. It’s entitled: A Comprehensive Account of the Genocide of Lunar Refugees by Queen Levana Blackburn: Names and Implications.
A name. An implication. That’s all she’d be, immortalised in a forgettable list. After the cover page, a number is bolded.
3,582.
The number of Lunar victims. Miniscule compared to Earth’s population. Cinder was almost certainly the only Lunar Cyborg on the list. An oddity. A friendly statistical anomaly.
Never meant to exist. Always meant to be out of reach.
“Kai?”
“It’ll be fine,” he promises, convincing himself of it. “I’ll be fine.”
“You’ll be fine?” she repeats.
That picture is burnt in his retinas; Cinder, forever sixteen. He, now so much older. He doesn’t mourn a lost love. He didn’t love her; he didn’t know her. He mourns an abandoned child who never even knew that someone was looking for her.
Kai exhales slowly and rests his port on the desk next to his wedding photo and his father's signet ring.
“I’ll be fine,” he affirms, “You know, I don’t really remember her.”
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@cindersassasin @hayleblackburn @spherical-empirical @salt-warrior @just2bubbly @gingerale2017 @icarusignite @kaider-is-my-otp @slmkaider @luna-maximoff-22 @cosmicnovaflare @kaixiety @snozkat @mirrorballsss @skinwitch18 @vincentvangothic @bakergirl13 @wassupnye @linh-cindy @therealkaidertrash21
#the lunar chronicles#tlc#lunar chronicles#linh cinder#kaider#emperor kai#angst#kaider fanfiction#this is not a lovey dovey happy ending folks
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how do you like “make amends” (idk the term) when you do something and actually the days after are okay and your life is fine and everything, like you don’t actually feel like you did something wrong, but then you discover that the thing you did might have offended the gods and so you’re feeling like very sorry of course and you tell them that you’re sorry (while trying to battle your intrusive thoughts that LOVE to show up at the worst times and make you even more paranoid bc you have to interrupt everything you say to add “i’m sorry for this intrusive thought i truly don’t believe it and don’t know why my brain is trying so hard to mess things up for me and sabotage me”)? i think i should make my uhm “spiritual insight/perception” (other term that idk bc english isn’t my firsts language and it’s late where i live) a bit better. somehow. like more trained, bc my biases probably influence everything
Hello, Anon.
I would like to start this by saying, very simply: It takes a lot to anger the Gods. It takes a lot to anger them to the point of actively ruining things in your life. Can they feel disrespected? Yes, absolutely. But that is typically dealt with rather quickly and concisely so the action does not happen again. The Helpol community has an issue with fearmongering and making people feel as though they have to walk on eggshells when it comes to the Theoi. Making people feel as though one wrong step is going to lead to serious repercussions. But let me assure you, it takes a lot to push them to the point of being incredibly, seriously angry at you.
They are also understanding of mental health. intrusive thoughts are just that - intrusive. They are not something that can be controlled and they do not reflect who we are as people. The Theoi understand this. They will not penalize you or punish you for these kinds of thoughts. If you feel as though you need to apologize, and if apologizing makes you feel better, you are free and within your right to do so. But you do not have to. They are understanding.
If you want to work on biased thinking, I would start with confronting the bias head-on. Lots of biases are implicit, and not things we outright notice or pick up on. So confronting that subconscious thinking is an amazing way to start.
I wish you luck with this - and remember, if you think that the Theoi are mad at you and it took you a few days to realize without any divine interference, chances are they are probably not mad at you.
Xaire, Altis.
#helpol#hellenic deities#hellenic polytheism#hellenic polythiest#hellenism#hellenic polytheistic#zeus devotion#zeus deity#hellenic worship#teachings of altis
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