#tgcf needs more ppl loving it

[yeonslayjun]

I mean technically she's right the only thing is he's a well He lmao

[asimpleram]

Saw one person fantasize about Xie Lian as a housewife, and I know it's just someone being like "Haha yaoi bottom being feminine :)". But I cannot imagine a character who would hate that more. Xie Lian is the husband who does destructive house renovations that sends him to the hardware store 8 times. He would love trying to start aquaponics in his basement. He builds meat smokers out of trash cans. Xie Lian has a couch he fished out of a dumpster he is reupholstering after work. Xie Lian needs work for enrichment. At least give him an elderly neighbor he can change lightbulbs for

[qirongsnumberonefan]

Random TGCF headcanons (x reader possibly)

Pei Ming:

MF sucks at cooking and burnt a house down making a salad.

He tries to use slang like rizz when describing himself

He has nice handwriting only when writing love letters

Has kissed a man before

Pei Ming has poled danced before when he got very drunk

Can run in heels

He is shorter than people think, he just wears platforms

He is somehow good with kids and lets them braid his hair

BEAUTIFUL EYE LASHES

He is good with makeup and uses it to cover his battle scars (He needs to be flawless)

He is a womanzier because he lacked attention by women growing up

He had an older sister (died)

Likes bears

Chipped tooth somewhere

The longest he had a gf or interest was 5 months 16: Ugly duckling while growing up Feng Xin and Mu Qing: 1. Feng Xin has scars and blushes and get all shy when you kiss them 2. Mu Qing hates cleaning because of the XIanle days, but he will hold a broom and clean for you, and only you. 3 .Feng Xin counts with his fingers and gets pissed when ppl talk about it 4. Mu Qing talks in his sleep 5. Feng Xin has a lazy eye 6. Mu Qing is VERY good with hair 7. Feng Xin PANICS when you have a period 8. Mu Qing is over prepared with Periods 9. Feng Xin sucks at kissing, but is good when drink 10. Mu Qing is good at kissing, but sucks when drunk 11. Feng Xin holds hands but no more PDA 12. Mu qing will hold your hand and give piggyback rides but nothing more (sometimes a peck on the cheek in non crowded areas)

Ling Wen

When she is stressed she grabs a paper and doodles, but she quickly hides them when done.

When she is dealing with annoying people so plays with strands of her hair or robes

Loves sweets

She has sore hands and wrists from the constant work

When she is working she lets you sit near her, lay your head on her lap, and sometimes even help with the easy stuff (She never wants to over work you)

VERY good at sewing, not cooking

Loves cold weather 9: Fav animal is a cat or bird

Falls asleep at her desk sometimes and wakes up with ink smudges on her face and paper

Secretly reads lesbian books

VERY VERY good at humming and singing

Loves holding you, not a fan of PDA though

Not good at taking care of herself, so loves it when you try to take care of her.

Loves quality time.

[carniferous]

Me and the bad bitch I pulled by framing his brother of murder .. so fucking real pls continue

absolutely let's get into it....

'me and the bad bitch i pulled by framing his brother for murder' specifically comes from my idea of like. if regulus survived the cave and the war ended as per canon and then he went on to hunt for the remaining horcruxes whilst peter is also looking for a horcrux to bring voldemort back with. they could meet. and they could have the most fucked up philosophically twisted situationship everrrr bound by this fragment of voldemort's soul that both of them Need for opposite reasons. both of them feeling that cruel twist of irony that once again they are bound by voldemort, a man they cannot help but respect and fear even while viewing him as a little beneath them. both of them having a vague disgust for the other that can Only manifest in psychosexual torture.

more broadly i like regulus and peter in the sense that they are diametrically opposed to each other. they are incapable of liking each other because they represent to each other the Worst Possible Choice either of them could have made (from their perspective -- regulus cannot imagine loneliness like peter has willingly chosen, and peter cannot imagine powerlessness like regulus has willingly chosen). and for that exact reason, they cannot ignore or forget each other! they're fascinated with each other the way ppl are fascinated with gruesome suicide. the way ppl are fascinated with how their lives could've played out if they had approached the crossroads of their life and chosen the Other path.

and unlike pairings with sev, i like how both regulus and peter's personal angst is not wrapped up in how they existed on the Outside of adoration and respect and admiration. they are not characters who stewed in personal loathing, both of their arcs hinge on action and choices and the desire to assert themselves upon the world. in my opinion, although reg was lonely and peter was resentful, they both were fairly comfortable with who they were -- there's a degree of arrogance in that, and they both recognize that in each other, and they perversely enjoy recognizing it.

i think they fuck a few times in a sort of high-handed hand-jobby (laugh reel) way. they're playing gay chicken but it's "you lose if you acknowledge the unspeakable tragedy that exists between us without which we would have nothing to say to one another" it's fun for them to pretend that the only thing they have to argue about is their Philosophical World View. they think they're recreating the dialogues of plato as they give each other uncomfortably dry hand jobs but it always falls a little short because of the Thing. The Thing They Don't Talk About. and then voldy's soul is just sitting there like a freaky little homunculus

here are some images:

bonus: if you have read tgcf you will already know this but the main antagonist of tgcf has this weird 800-year-long obsession and carefully cultivated power dynamic with the main character that stems from the fact that their characters are Direct mirrors of each other. and the dynamic involves the antagonist meticulously creating scenarios that he hopes will destroy the protag's faith in humanity and love and compassion and the novel ends with a confrontation of those ideals in which the protag says their similar pasts have Nothing to do with the way the antagonist turned out. and that him losing faith in humanity was a choice he made and not inevitable at all. and the protag proves this by refusing to choose anything except love. this too is regpeter

[dyouevendraw]

Getting into danmei honestly wasn’t what I expected, I’ve been hovering around mdzs fans for so long though?? But I have some demand avoidance, so when ppl suggest it to me, my brain says no 🥲

The funny part is, I got into TGCF bc my friend was like "dude, you are so Xie Lian coded, you’re gonna love him" and bc I kept seeing the dongua on TikTok and thought the characters looked interesting. I tried avoiding the silly gay men but they kept coming back, literally following me across platforms and all. Then I just gave in and ordered the books, but that sparked the curse of "the next volume you need is sold out”. It all started with TGCF volume 1.

My friend was also very right, there’s never been a character I related to more than Xie Lian. I love that damn story, even if tell me there’s 100 better ones, it’ll always be the one I love the most. After SVSSS, I’ll read 2ha btw!

[lynnthefrenchtoast]

Lines from "In The Other Universe" that I CANT GET OVER

in which a fanfic writer (me) overexplains her oneshot bc I NEED TO RAMBLE AND MY IRLS FOLLOW ME ON EVERY OTHER PLATFORM SO TUMBLR IS ALL! I! HAVE!

(u should prob read it first this wont make sense otherwise)

"Even though it was not his name, Yin Yu turned"

i dont know if this is a canon scene or not (sue me the books are LONG and hard to buy in my country) but i've read about yin yu getting mistaken for yizhen and getting totally upset. so i decided to start this fic with him being so okay with it that he responds to qi ying's name as if it's his own.

(also because if ur so close to someone, ur nosy abt their business because it also becomes your business) I WANTED TO CONVEY THAT CLOSENESS FROM THE VERY FIRST LINE

"Should I tell Yizhen you can't even recognize me?"

CANON YIN YU IS SO GLOOMY AND HONESTLY WE UNDERESTIMATE HIS POTENTIAL TO BE TEASY. i just know he could be. all hard workers have a sarcastic inner voice

"The man damn near shits his pants"

AHAHHA okay look. i have this tendency when writing to be REALLY PRETENTIOUS AND FANCY. and ive learnt that usually NO ONE GIVES TWO SHITS. compared to genshin, tgcf fanfics are so beautifully written and sometimes i gotta remind this fandom to SPEAK INFORMALLY (unless its qi rong. then. yea. BUT WHO READS QI RONG FICS?)

"The blank wrist that has never known the kiss of cold metal"

I RIPPED MY OWN HEART OUT WITH THIS ONE

"In this universe, he discovers it's such a simple thing to be happy."

proof that quanyin is literally hualian's cousin

the entire earring scene

i am a sucker for qyz's over-attachment to the earrings. ik a lot of ppl think he's like this because its the only thing yin yu ever gave him but NO headcanon that even in the other universe, yizhen would be overly attached because hes a puppy

he xuan scene

canonically, he xuan would NEVER. bc 1) he's too lost in his own ways to ask for advice and 2) it would fuck with his earth master disguise too much. but since it's the other universe!!!! I CAN DO WHAT I WANT.

“Yizhen’s victory is my victory,” he declares, with a tone that leaves no room for argument. “His loss is my loss. When Yizhen cries, I am sad. When Yizhen smiles at me, my heart is so full it could burst.” He brings two jade white palms together, interlocking the fingers like entangled limbs on a hot summer morning. “We’re like this. One shared past; one shared future. As a Shixiong, don’t you think rather than being jealous, I’m extremely proud of how far he’s come?”

my favourite freaking line can you tell? IT SHOWS THEIR ABILITY TO ROOT FOR ONE ANOTHER. SHOWS EMPATHY. SHOWS LOVE. ("my heart is so full it could burst") THE RECALL TO THE MORNING THEY WOKE UP TOGETHER, REMINDING YOU OF DOMESTICITY AND SIMPLICITY AND TRUST AND CLOSENESS.

ONE SHARED PAST; ONE SHARED FUTURE ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? this is all i ever wanted for them. to be able to grow together and live together and die together. TO HAVE A SHARED PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE.

this line is also loaded to me bc i once wrote a fic called "entangled pasts; estranged future" that wasnt good enough to be posted but GOD IT REMINDS ME SO MUCH OF IT

"Here, he never needs to know the weight of a mask – neither physical not metaphorical."

i dont like how i worded this but IT NEEDED TO BE SAID. YIN YU NEVER NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO WEAR THE WANING MOON MASK but more importantly NEVER NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO WEAR A MASK TOWARDS QUAN YIZHEN. NEVER NEEDS TO HIDE RESENTMENT. im shaking with all they couldve been and didnt become.

"Here, Brocade and Immortal are just two words"

hear that? its the sound of me BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST THE WALL AAAAAA I SO DESPERATELY WANT THIS TO BE REAL i mean i understand if they werent so tragic i wouldnt love them as much but IT HURTS! (*100 teehee)

"Sure it will."

i actually hate myself why did i end it like that even in my fanfic i cant let them be happy. huh. i have to subtly hint that this isnt what happens.

its actually so upsetting that the whole fic is so nice and healing and all of it is just overcasted by this knowledge of "its not real. they never get to be this happy. what really happens is they resent each other and leave each other and they become one shared past; two estranged futures."

you can call me insane. im aware no one thinks this deeply about fanfiction and most people are on the site for smut. BUT I THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT IT SO YOURE FORCED TO LISTEN TO ME RAMBLE

[cinnabonn12]

୨୧ Intro:

Disclaimer: I post way too much very regularly. This is because I currently have no life and enjoy escapism!! How exciting. Welcome other chronically online citizens :)

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[Im copying my friends format for this bc she’s seems like she knows what she’s doing lol. I mean if ur interested you can read further, but like, it’s up to you lmao]

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• So I’m in a lot of fandoms—sadly Im not an artist, but and I will gladly talk to anyone abt any of these in these if u would like :)

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Fandoms:

୨୧┇A ton of anime I watched in 2020-22

Hunter X Hunter • Death Note • Yuri On Ice • Sk8 the Infinity • My Hero Academia • Attack on Titan • Demon Slayer • Saiki K • Ouran High School Host Club • Given • Jujutsu Kaisen • Black Butler • Banana Fish • Violet Evergarden • Haikyuu • and a few more random obscure ones :)

୨୧┇MCU (Loki)

୨୧┇SuperWhoLock (lol)

୨୧┇Hannibal

୨୧┇Good Omens (Crowley)

୨୧┇Our Flag Means Death

୨୧┇The Arcana

୨୧┇Gravity Falls (Bill Cipher)

୨୧┇The Owl House

୨୧┇MXTX (TGCF, MDZS, & SVSSS)

୨୧┇GHOST :333

୨୧┇WELCOME TO NIGHTVALE (Cecil 💜)

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*I’m too lazy to put gifs in here like most ppl do so pretend there r pretty little gifs throughout that align w whatever my aesthetic is (idk)

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Music:

*Also smt I post abt way too much

My main playlist if u like :)

୨୧┇Artists (in no particular order)

Ghost • The Sukis • Incubus • Interpol • The Smiths • The Cure • Depeche Mode • Mother Mother • Devin Townsend • Cigarettes After Sex • Linkin Park • Green Day • Smashing Pumpkins • Radiohead • Bo Burnham • Jack Stauber •The Beatles • The Police • America • Bring Me The Horizon • Atreyu • Drab Majesty • Beach House • and more I probably forgot

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I mean I’ll listen to whatever but I have my preferences—aka indie rock • dream pop • shoegaze • dark wave • new wave • gothic techno • prog/alt/folk/classic rock • symphonic/alt/prog metal • and theatre/broadway

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Broadway Stuff:

• Les Miserables • Hamilton • Wicked • Phantom of The Opera • Hairspray • Cabaret • Harry Potter and The Cursed Child • Dear Evan Hansen • Come From Away • The Play That Goes Wrong • Beetlejuice • Six • My Fair Lady • Legally Blonde • Mean Girls • Hadestown • Little Shop of Horrors • Mamma Mia • The Great Comet of 1812 • Sweeney Todd • Back to the Future • The Notebook • The Great Gatsby, and more bc it would take too long to list them all

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Closing:

• Im also into photography, writing (fanfic), and a sport I don’t want to talk about unless I do lol. So yeah!! Well that’s a hell of a lot of info.

• Omg I love oversharing!! If you read it, I’m concerned for you bc that was not attention grabbing at all and ur probably stalking me which as an internet stalker like myself yk what? Go for it bro.

(PS: sometimes I loose my grip on my sanity and it shows…so uh keep that in mind? Idk I feel like that needed a mention considering how I am)

[garfield-milk]

Nine people you'd like to know better

TYSM for the tag @fanfic-gremlin-ft-trauma !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I swear I didn't forget about this or anything I just kept pushing it over, sorry<\3)

Three ships: ZUKKA!!!!! and um jotakak (ik a lot of ppl hate it but they don't get it) and then there's a bunch of canon pairs that I love (brokeback mountain, doukyuusei and a shit ton more)

First ever ship: I have no fuckin idea but I'm gonna go with victuuri bc that the first one I can remember vividly

Last song: I don't know by apink!!!! (I was gonna say bc of nostalgia but it's a great so yeah)

Last film: witness for the persecution which was really good but I expect more ngl

Currently reading: TGCF!!!!!!!!!!!! I looking for the 8th volume everywhere and I can't find it but Im enjoying it so much ughhghg

Currently watching: nothing, too tired to watch a whole new series lmao

Currently consuming: rn nothing bc it's 4am BUT I had broccoli with ham and cheese for dinner and it was insanely good

Currently craving: rose tea, i ran out of it like two weeks ago and I need to go and buy it but I'm lazy 😢

tagging: @ssreeder @maaaxx @tiredlylaughing @adriancatrin @punkjet and umm anyone who wants to do it! i mean it !!! (if anyone was already tagged or don't want to do it no worries!!)

[dizazul]

Intro ˚₊‧꒰ა ♱ ໒꒱ ‧₊˚

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TGCF SPOILERS

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Even though I read more than usual, I surprisingly don't have much to say cuz it's mainly fight scenes rn lol

I THOUGT PEI MING DIED FOR REALS IN HIS PALACE DHDJFJFJJFJ and I was like kinda sad....for 0.0004739 second only tho lol

YALL I DIDNT NEED THIS, PLZ I SWEAR GUZI DESERVES THE WORLD 😭

However, Guzi hopped down and opened his arms, blocking in front of Qi Rong, yelling at Lang Qianqiu.

"DON'T…DON'T KILL MY DAD!"

I mean the image of Qi Ying walking with Yin Yu's dead body is just wow but also HE IS DEAD!?!?! IS THIS A JOKE???? PLZ I WAS HOPING IT WUD ONLY BE SHI WUDU

Quan Yizhen was carrying Yin Yu's dead body on his back, standing in the middle of the street with his face covered in soot; when he saw Jun Wu, raging fires burnt in his eyes too.

GOUSHI FOR THE WIN!!!! I LOVE HIM SO MUCH!!! everything he does, the fighting plans, defending Xie Lian, I love him so much

"He's gone stupid again! I just knew it, this guy just loves going stupid!!! It's been hundreds of years, and it's always been like…who kicked me?!"

"Me," Guoshi said. "Say one more word and I'll push you off directly."

MXTX'S NOTE HERE WAS GOLDEN LOL

Black Water does indeed owe Hua Cheng a huge debt; a very poor Supreme. He's severely dragged down the income average of the entire Supreme rank (although there's only three), but it's not all owed from eating too much

WE GOT A TRANSFORMERS BATTLE FOR REAL I CANT RN

Ya me too, Xie Lian lmao

He was already prepared to perform a service for Pei Ming!

Nvm still hate him

Pei Ming wielded a sword in one hand, and the other was smoothing his locks back; his hair perfect, his charm unruffled. "Not quite alright, but mostly alright."

OH MY GOD JUN WU U MONSTER MY BABY IS BURNING ALIVE ARE U INSANE?!?!? OH MY GOD I SWEAR I WAS LOSING MY MIND WHEN GUZI GOT CAUGHT IN THE FIRE

OH MY

GODOHMYGODOHMYGOSOHMYGOD

Just then, "Hua Cheng" flung out his right hand, and tossed something at him. Without thinking, Shi Qingxuan raised his hand to catch, but when he saw what it was he caught, his entire face blanched.

That object was the Wind Master fan

Yoooo these r some solid words from a loser for reals thooo

I'm a steel-hearted man. Rather than love me, why don't you go love yourself."

Ok hold up

Now that they thought back, when Jun Wu had shot out that trail of fire, Qi Rong had protected Guzi, which was why this child didn't burn to death.

Nope. No. Nooooo. Nope. Haha nope. Qi Rong dead?? Nope. No way. I don't know how to read anymore thanks. Nope. Guzi was totally not crying about how good of a father Qi Rong was when his own father wasn't even that good to him. Nope. No. I will not hear any more on this matter. No.

I find it interesting how Hua Cheng vaguely respects like one dude and its Goushi, but like they are both fiercely protective and ACC caring for Xie lian unlike some ppl (cough Jun wu cough cough). I think in some weird way, they would get along really well lol

Yoooooo what is the deal with Mu Qing and Feng Xin??? Ok Feng Xin I get cuz he was looking for Jian Lan but Mu Qing?? And now he's acting weird??? I'm so suspicious of him rn

He better not be a clone or like Jun Wu just shape shifting into him or smt 😤

Also Jun Wu is CRAZYYYYY LIKE CRAZY CRAZZYYYYY UNHINGEDDD it's kinda cool ngl I do like my villains to be insanely unhinged and overpowered

[what-if-nct]

Yo its been such a long time I'm sorry. How's everything going? Are you doing well? Are you feeling well? World've better treated you well. I wanna throw a fit when not. I totally love your insta its too cute!!! Also your clothing style, you actually dare to go out in that? I cant believe it I wish I was brave enough to wear cute clothes but ppl are assholes in my surroundings so I probably wouldn't dare to- I love your style so so so SOOO much.

I mightve fallen back in a (not too severe) Mark Lee obsession and a (very severe) tgcf obsession. Also scumvillains self saving system, I bought volume one only my mom read the backside of it, which is about someone being a half demon and she tells me not to buy it anymore. I'm probably still gonna buy it because I wanna read the happy endingggg (same for tgcf but the next volume i should buy has a very sus cover so I have to hide it from everyone XD)

I have Mark Lee hanging up my wall and once in a while, I stand there and take a selfie with Mork. Its kinda tradition for me now.

Mannn i wish I had stuff to sayyy TT anyways 🥋 anon actually deserves the world so wtf is going on like actually. He didnt do anything wrong right then why is all going on and also why can't people see? I get so fucking angry and upset whenever I see ppl making fun of mental health and when i hear abt how people treat him, and I'm not even the person it happens to!! Like why must world be so unfair, like God may take all the happiness I have and give it to him. Please

That turned a little deep i'm sorry. Some people would just need to know (also 🥋 yeah ily amd ill never stop saying it) (i'm still gonna start a fanclub for him)

-sneeze

(Ps theres a character from tgcf who is canonically a dilf, and kinda turned into the god of coitus and hes scared of women) (hes my fav I love him so much) (his title Ju Yang meaning perfect sun was once misspelled as Ju Yang meaning tremendous masculinity and boom. Ppl started praying to him for sex and kids) (sorry i love that dude too much)

Hiii! And I'm doing fine and I'll stay fine as long as I stay away from people once the pms kicks in I think that's been my problem the past few months. Gotta seclude self during the moon time. And thank youuuu, you're so sweet and I do go out dressed like that. I really don't notice people when I'm out, so I never think twice about it until a creepy man says creepy things like please don't look at me. Only women and guys who look like Timothy Chalatmet and Heir Of Atticus are allowed to perceive me. But I rarely hear anything negative. But seeing my reflection in store windows and hearing girls yell they love my outfit is all that matters. Oh a girl who worked at the grocery store told me she liked my outfit and when I pulled out my card my Jeongin photocard was in my wallet and she asked if I liked kpop I wish I could've said more to her she was so cute but I was shy. So it's worth it to dress however you want cause for every person who has something mean to say there's 10 people with something nice to say. Also how you think you look and how it makes you feel is the most important part. I suggest you at least once to wear a really cute outfit just on a normal day.

I don't know what has gotten into mark lately but I totally understand falling back into it. He's at full power right now. Don't look directly at him cause he's collecting people left and right. Hes still like my boyfriend's kid brother so he doesn't affect me. But I definitely see it, his power. But that is so cute you take a selfie with your picture of mark. I kiss my pictures of Hyunjin or Chan before I leave cause they're right by the door. Their great traditions to have.

I've never heard of tgcf but it sounds like really cool, and yeah it sucks that his mental health is being disregarded it's not okay and he deserves so much better.

[edenwolfie]

Hello i loved Chapter 6 as well!! So your perspective is very interesting and valid! Also, I hope you're getting the rest you need soon! If it helps @ ravenkinnie with her question, I've seen CN readers of TGCF say that Hua Cheng speaks mostly in first person in Chinese. If he speaks in third person, it's mostly to tease. If you want an in-depth answer, you can check this answer by elberlight where the same question is asked! https://www.tumblr.com/elberlight/695375661503823872/hi-i-noticed-in-a-lot-of-tgcf-fics-they-tend-to

Anyways, your answer actually reminded me of this interesting thread by the translator of the TGCF Audio Drama! Hua Cheng does speak in a respectful manner in Chinese but it's mostly sarcastic in tone so it sounds offensive/insincere. Except for when he talks to Xie Lian, of course! But I was thinking how hard it must be to convey this in English without it sounding clunky. What do you do then? So, I can see why the use of Hua Cheng using third person slowly became popular because it's easy to sound respectful (and twisting it to sound sarcastic) if you make someone talk in a humbling tone. This was the thread btw and even compares it to how LWJ speaks: https://twitter.com/ReviewsNana/status/1593668630755123202

Hi anon! I knew there had to be ppl with more coherent thoughts out there! Thank you for your thoughts and the links, I shall be sure to check them out!

[kaesficrecarchive]

this or that

i wasn’t tagged but i just really wanted to do this lol, and in the end: i make the rules on this blog (+ no one can stop me)

crying in the shower or making out in the shower 

(preferably both so ppl can make parallel gifsets)

give cute boy line ID or stalk his IG 

(as i myself am not a direct person i think it’s so much more relatable but also just funnier when characters stalk social media)

share his earbuds or share his closet 

(domesticity >>>)

manga or manhwa

(haven’t read either oops)

long dangly silver earring or dark leather cuff 

(don’t really have a set preference)

time loop or reincarnation

(triage my beloved) (everyone go watch that show rn)

blue engineering smock or red engineering smock 

(just blue in general)

kisses at the beach or kisses in the mountain

(sorry atots for betraying you like this)

cactus or chilli plant 

(insert both? both? both! both are good gif)

fairy lights or spot lighting

(i have fairy lights in my room and they’re just so superior in every way)

ghost boyfriend or vampire lover 

(not a big fan if ghosts tbh)

hard sub or soft sub 

(thought this was abt bdsm for a sec)

stray cat or… actually that’s your only option

cats >>>

Hawaiian shirt or blue shorts

how do they always make these shirts work

evil ex-girlfriend or predatory fujoshi

the both meme but instead of both it’s neither

suit jacket or leather jacket

love it when ppl get dressed up

high school or university

did anyone choose high school?

kitchen drama or office drama

i blame the movie ‘no reservations’ for this

forehead kisses or cheek kisses

something about them brushing the hair away as well

viki or gagaoolala

just more acquainted with viki

japanese arthouse depth or korean high concept

don’t think i’ve watched a japanese show actually

pink milk or yakult 

don’t know if other countries have this but i used to be obsessed with fristi lol

censoured chinese bl or trashy thai pulps 

when is the tgcf live action coming pls i need it

body swap or dead body 

not a fan of body swap

sexy or story 

see: censored chinese bl

back hugs or lap sitting 

both actually (but something about lap sitting... idk, the intimacy of it)

piggyback or cradle carry 

so underrated and for what

[shu-kaku]

Me waiting for it to be 2020 so I can watch all my babies in Heaven Official’s Blessing animated but also so I can lowkey just cry with everyone about it

[plan-d-to-i]

I have to say, seeing the mess in the mdzs fandom (still relatively new here!) has me genuinely worried for any possibility of tgcf (main fandom!) ever blowing up in popularity like that (hopefully not). There are already many shitty takes around, especially wrt HC (is it just a black-red character thing? Ppl are so desperate for them to be actually evil or morally grey 😐), we don't need any more... I guess I'm mainly wondering if MQ stans would ever get as bad as JC stans. MQ as a character is definitely better than JC with actual redeeming qualities as you've pointed out yourself in the past (and he admitted to his faults in the end, ergo he is aware that he has them and made mistakes), but you still see many stans trying to take away his flaws and make him a purely soft but misunderstood poor boy who gets antagonized unfairly by everyone. Wwx and lwj barely even did anything to JC and ppl act as if they are devils incarnate, compared to that HC is fully hostile to MQ (with good reasons, imo, and I actually try to see both sides) and XL often points out MQ's shortcomings and ofc, FX's... everything, lol.

I think for svsss, SJ would be this specific character? (More extreme than the other two, though.) Ngl, I was actually surprised how much sympathy and love SJ gets in the fandom (Bing-ge doesn't get even half of it).

Anyway, sorry for rambling! The drama in the mdzs fandom and how much stans villanize actually good characters to defend their flawed favs shocked me, lol. And it's just confusing to me how ppl try to sympathize with their meow meow but never try to understand why other characters treat them the way they do. But blind stans...

ah ramble away!! We're absolutely on the same page. Truly nothing had prepared me for this fandom. I don't really project on characters when I read. I just want to be entertained, so to see so many ppl stan these underwhelming (to say the least) side characters so hard that they feel the need to change canon to make them into uwu soft babies and shit on the genuinely heroic characters!!? can't relate.

Shen Jiu has been almost totally ruined by his own stans 🥲. They just turned him into a generic YA heroine. rip Shen Jiu, you were so much cooler as you were written.

So I can understand the trepidation w tgcf's adaptation. There are already people bitching about how Xie Lian isn't "really that good! and his relationship w HC is toxic"🙃. I don't even think it's Mu Qing stans you have to watch out for. As you said Mu Qing is demonstrably better than jc and is thus rewarded with a reconciliation with the mc. I don't exactly vibe with that personality type but even I had to admit by the end Mu Qing was not in fact a shitbag. Just the fact that he broke the rules to take supplies to Xie Lian means something. All jc gave WWX when he was helping the Wens was a gut wound. Anyway, welcome to my theory : Qi Rong will be JC 2.0 sad angry uwu baby green grape 💚. The "eating people thing" was just mean rumors. He just wanted Xie Lian's love and attention >:-/ they were CoUsinS!! Xianle Bros! Cousins! Look at the way he cared for Gu Zi! # 1 DAD! Also he's known as the Green Ghost! DUH OBVIOUSLY this means he's Aromantic. And the way he helped Xuan Ji get revenge by killing all those women! Can you say FEMINIST KING!

[curiosity-killed]

hua cheng, the accidental person

okay this is for @bodhimcbodeface because i can’t shut up and make this concise enough for discord. spoilers ahead yeehaw

this is...not comprehensive. i’ve written 11 tgcf fics and am generally a bit fixated on Hua Cheng as a character so. there’s definitely things missing but i tried to hit the main points that i thought of while writing? also obviously this is just my interpretation! i do not expect anyone else to be like “ah yes curio the sage is so correct i have changed my thinking on this” like go live your life with your own versions of hua cheng! this is just the hill upon which i have firmly planted myself and from which i refuse to be budged. as u do.

anyway, LONG explanation of my very niche and very uh self-indulgent, not-necessarily-support-by-canon hua cheng apologism LMAO

tl;dr: (this is really Too Long i’m sorry) I think Hua Cheng reluctantly becomes a person during his 800 years of searching, starting from a point where he views Xie Lian not as a person but as an immutable god and focus of devotion and developing into a person who doesn’t really acknowledge that he’s a person because realizing that you want to live and do things for yourself is scary and overwhelming at times, and he ultimately falls in love with Xie Lian during the novel itself as he recognizes and is in wonder of the humanity of Xie Lian instead of his divinity or absolute judgment.

POINT 1: Hua Cheng doesn’t actually fall in love with Xie Lian till the ox cart

but curio! you say, “my beloved!” he calls him his beloved! and the land of tender!!

shhh. IMO Hua Cheng is more Wuming than Hua Cheng for those 800 years. By which I mean, for most of that time he’s, at his heart, a nameless soldier trying to find and serve his crown prince/general/god. He still views Xie Lian as this perfect and immaculate figure—a sculpture, a painting, a work of art that is untouchable and immutable. And he’s utterly and wholly devoted to that figure but devotion is not the same as love

So Hua Cheng is searching and trying to serve Dianxia all these years and then His Royal Highness finally ascends and is a god again and Hua Cheng shows up in all his glory to give this power and strength and wealth to serve him and—

and he’s met not by a powerful and reckless martial god or an unstoppable calamity but by a young man dressed in bridal robes who lets Hua Cheng lead him up a darkened mountain, who doesn’t lash out with spiritual energy or a sword but instead, only eventually, with the cursed bandage he was carrying back in the darkest part of his life.

and i think that throws hua cheng. like he’s had this image of his god all these years, this divine painting made over and over and over again—and he carries that belief and devotion with him, but there’s a crack in the sculpture and the stone is starting to flake off to reveal a human underneath it

so he puts on an approachable, malleable, unassuming skin and finds xie lian collecting scraps and being a lil awkward, a lil bumbling, generous and kind — and i think hua cheng, after 800 years of knowing everything, having everything — I think he looks at this discovery with wonder

Bc tbc this does not mean Hua Cheng views them as equals. For him it’s like, dianxia has even more to him, is even more than I knew. He’s seen Xie Lian as the flower crowned martial god in all his glory and as the white-clothed calamity in all his horror — and now here he is, wonderful, multitudinous, and human

Meanwhile I don’t think Hua Cheng even views himself as a person really, much less a human.

also i mean. the internet & allo ppl prove time and time again that you don’t need love for horniness so. land of tender’s right out as proof on that

POINT 2: The Live For Me thing

so obviously and undeniably, using one person as a reason for living is....not healthy. Not going to argue that. but my take on it personally is that, when Hua Cheng’s a kid who really, actively wants to die and sees no reason for living, Xie Lian gives him a reason to keep going. he doesn’t have to live for himself—that’s too much, that’s too big of an ask—but he’s been given a command and purpose by the one person who’s been kind to him/whom he respects. it’s a little like... “My life has no meaning but my cat needs me to feed him and clean his litterbox and so I need to keep getting up and taking care of him even if I don’t see a larger intrinsic purpose to my life.”

and i think like...it’s easy to forget that for all of books 2 & 4, Hua Cheng is young. He doesn’t live past 18—he’s still like...a kid. And that’s not to say that teenagers/young adults can’t make moral and rational decisions but I’m going to be honest, when I was that age I contemplated joining the Air Force because of tuition assistance and the snazzy uniform despite the fact that I was a vocal pacifist and repeatedly got into arguments with teachers about school rules and conservative politics. It’s not like. The Most Rational and Mature Age, lbr. 

so Wuming is absolutely capable of looking at what Xie Lian is doing and being like “hey maybe war crimes aren’t a great idea” but he is young and traumatized and the one person he believes in, the one person who gave him a reason to keep going, is deadset on this task which tbh I don’t think either of them (or...necessarily...the society in which they live) views as war crimes in the modern sense (which isn’t to say that we as readers should view it any more lightly bc i think the narrative directly and firmly contradicts that idea) but as revenge, as an eye-for-an-eye. so, bad, but character-wise, I think it’s more nuanced than we sometimes consider

anyway back to the fixation on xie lian. i stand by the assertion that in those 800 years, hua cheng wasn’t exclusively focused on xie lian. like was finding and serving him his top priority? oh god yes. undeniably. there is no other version of this story. BUT eight hundred years is like....a lot of time. and i think in that time he started doing things for himself, even if under the guise of serving xie lian. hua cheng is curious and adventurous—he clearly likes to learn even if he plays it off as nbd—and i think he starts to realize that about himself in those centuries even if he doesn’t allow himself to acknowledge or consider it. 

POINT 3: Mt. Tong’lu in General

“okay, sure but what about the thousands of sculptures and murals of xie lian, curio. what the fuck about them.”

Yeah. FINE. okay we will DEAL with this. dealing with this is the entire reason i wrote “(like i do) in the tall grass.” 

disclaimer: this is probably not supported by canon! i also. Do Not care. My Ghost King Now.

so I have two general avenues I take with this:

going back to the devotion > love — when Hua Cheng reaches MTL, he’s seen xie lian beaten and cast down. what do gods need to survive? worship! we see throughout how important divine statues/portraits/etc. are throughout canon. in this interpretation, the cave is a concentration of all that worship in an effort to support and serve xie lian and hua cheng doesn’t view himself like...as part of it. the sculptures could have been carved by any hand so long as they are xie lian and the worship and devotion that goes into their making can support and bolster him.

my personal favorite version: amNESIA IN THE CAVES —okay i don’t have the text pulled up rn but y’know how Guoshi says Hua Cheng was almost dispersed, in terrible condition, etc., when he reached Mt. Tong’lu. so if baby boy is in terrible condition, barely hanging on, etc., then my immediate favorite option is that he doesn’t, at that time, have even the...uh threadbare sense of self he did in life/as Wuming and is running on only a vague and urgent sense of Something driving him—something he has to do, someone he has to serve—and in that case, the paintings and sculptures are part of his trying to piece together and process his memories as he can grasp them and figuring out who he is/what his purpose is. Is this canonical? PROBABLY NOT. and yet here i am. firmly planted on this hill

Also w/ MTL I think a thing that’s often skated over is the mortals, creation of E’ming, and his ascension. Which is important from a meta lens of Hua Cheng and Xie Lian vs Jun Wu but that’s not the point of this rambling monstrosity and i’m trying not to get too distracted. ANYWAY I think this is one of those times when Hua Cheng does something that he would probably excuse as like “well His Highness would’ve wanted me to” or “His Highness wouldn’t have been willing to sacrifice the mortals” because Xie Lian is still largely his moral compass—but it also is a peek at the complexity Hua Cheng doesn’t acknowledge within himself.

uh i got distracted anyway and no longer know what point i was making here. Hua Cheng Ascension Important....maybe i will remember this at some other point...

POINT 4: Live For Me (Revisited)

I sort of got distracted writing that point but anyway coming back to it now: I maintain that although Hua Cheng’s primary pursuit is protecting and serving Xie Lian he also does develop/realize his Accidental Personhood throughout his 800 years. this includes a lot of things, as previously stated, that are under the guise of serving Xie Lian (I’d put learning the Banyue tongue, finding out about the Gilded Banquet, collecting swords, beating the 33 officials etc., in this category) and things that maybe could be but...are not really (e.g., his friendship alliance with He Xuan, Paradise Manor* in general, the Gambling Den, learning the Wuyong tongue, bullying Qi Rong*, bullying FengQing*, playing with gold foil palaces, etc.)

(*these are ones that like...could be said to be for Xie Lian and I think he might say are for Xie Lian but also have a personal element that is just for him. 

Like yes Paradise Manor is a lavish and well-stocked residence fit for a god or crown prince...but it’s also a luxurious and extravagant collection of all the things he couldn’t have in life. it’s like giving a kid a credit card with no limit and letting them run wild through uh. Fuck. A Fancy Department Store. 

And sure Qi Rong was awful and turned on Xie Lian in pretty damning ways, but I also genuinely think part of Hua Cheng’s grudge with him is from the childhood abuse and from just...hatred that Qi Rong is around and looks like Xie Lian and gets to be there when Hua Cheng can’t find Xie Lian (which is about  Xie Lian but for Hua Cheng). 

Similarly with FengQing, sure a lot of his hate is for them abandoning Xie Lian—but he doesn’t even know till Book 3 when they abandoned him, and consider how much more he hates Mu Qing, the guy he blames for kicking him out of the army, etc. Some of it is totally “in service” to Xie Lian but some of it is because Hua Cheng carries a grudge like a goddamn pro and finds catharsis in beating the shit out of immortals who bounce back and can’t stop tripping over themselves and onto his blade.)