#MLN

[chemicl]

Some things don’t change 🤷‍♀️

[fivetrench]

A diagram that I really hope people will see and learn something from. As a vincian guy, I’m so tired of people using mlm & gaylm terms interchangeably. They have very different meanings & it excludes a large majority of mlm folks when people use them as if they’re the same.

(For simplicity, I did not mention enben or m-spec veldians/solians in this diagram. I am aware that the terms listed also include nonbinary folks & that m-spec turians/veldians/cintheans exist!)

And before anyone says that vincian is gaylm exclusive, it is not. Here is the coining post, which explicitly states it was created as an alternative to achillean (MLM).

[genderkoolaid]

i feel like "being attracted to nonbinary people" has historically been shit on because NB isn't a third gender (fair but some NB people are, or at least aren't binary at all), because you can't tell if someone's NB just by looking at them (fair but that's true of every gender ever,) or because it's inherently fetishizing (shut up lol). but that's had the effect of like. the expectation that transneutral/transother folks are all fine with being sorted into binary(-aligned) attraction & erasing abinary people from sexuality. so i wanna say: i am attracted to agender & neutrois & maverique people specifically. I think binary-unaligned people are hot as fuck in a way that is completely unrelated to binary genders or binary sexuality. i want to have genderless & gender neutral & binary-breaking sex with other nonbinary people. abinary cock and pussy and cockpussy and smoothness* is all hot and cool as hell. i love being NLN and also MLN and WLN in a way completely unrelated to being MLM/WLW.

*did you know that you can get genital nullification and keep an erogenous zone?? because you can! altersex genitalia is so cool :)

[mr-shimurka]

Dancing✨

My pen exactly loves them.

[d0wn-in-the-morgue]

guys i finished mln and i don’t know what to do with myself cuz wtf was that

[qbdatabase]

10 Trans Romance Titles Welcome, suitors, lovers, and secret admirers! Here are 10 Romance books with transgender and nonbinary characters to help get you started on the Trans Rights Readathon 💗🧾💗

[neopronouns]

flag id: six flags with 6 stripes. the top left flag's stripes are purple, light green, very light sky blue, cream, light golden yellow, and golden yellow. the top right flag's stripes are purple, light pinkish-red, cream, very light green, faded sky blue, and soft blue.

the middle left flag's stripes are dark pink, purple, bright purple, light green, blue, and light sky blue. the middle right flag's stripes are dark pink, purple, bright purple, cream, blue, and very light red.

the bottom left flag's stripes are light purple-pink, purple, very dark pink, light green, very light sky blue, and white. the bottom right flag's stripes are very light red, purple, very dark pink, light green, cream, and white. end id.

banner id: a 1600x200 teal banner with the words ‘please read my dni before interacting. those on my / dni may still use my terms, so do not recoin them.’ in large white text in the center. the text takes up two lines, split at the slash. end id.

adonian | maedian adonion | maedion adonien | maedien

adonian: gay/gai mln

maedian: gay/gai wln

adonion: straight/strayt mln

maedion: straight/strayt wln

adonien: diamoric mln

maedien: diamoric wln

[pt: adonian: gay/gai mln

maedian: gay/gai wln

adonion: straight/strayt mln

maedion: straight/strayt wln

adonien: diamoric mln

maedien: diamoric wln. end pt]

gay/gai, straight/strayt, and diamoric adonic/mln and maedic/wln terms for anon!

since these are similar to torian, trixian, torion, trixion, torien, and trixien, the flags and terms are based on those. the flags combine the adonic and maedic flags' colors with the gai, strayt, and diamoric flags' colors, and the terms are 'adon' and 'maed' suffixed with 'ian', 'ion', and 'ien'!

tags: @radiomogai | dni link

[caeliangel]

୨୧ • acheronian (MLNEU & WLNEU)

A flag for acheronians, men + women loving neutrois.

PT. acheronian (MLNEU & WLNEU). A flag for acheronians, men + women loving neutrois. END OF PT.

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Mestric Veldian Pride Flag

Mestric: a catch-all term for all orientations, attractions, partnerships or similar involving non-binarity (e.g. nln, nlm, mln, wln, nlw, mla, nla).

Veldian or turian: being gay for men (gay4men/G4M); homo vincian (MLM/NBLM); queer attraction to men (QLM/MLQ); non-woman loving non-women (floric/cinthean/NWLNW).

Many used "diamoric veldian" to mean the same thing as mestric veldian, however this is more specifically ample (including any toradonic gay folk, for example, torians, gaicians/gaidians/gairians, veldienbies, veldienborics, etc.).

[rotten-queer]

Aromantic - Homoromantic flag

Asexual - Homosexual flag

For gay oriented and angled aspecs, it's based off of the mlm flag but I'm not sure if these really read as mlm flag combos

[the-delta-quadrant]

so after only reading up about diamoric in a wiki article the other day and being confused, i went to the sources and found multiple coining posts, which showed that the wiki boiled it down a bit by saying wlnb and mlnb attraction isn't diamoric.

but i'm still confused.

here it says:

A diamoric person is a person who centers NB people and NB partnerships in their life.

Only non-binary people may use diamoric as an identity. Only NB people can call themselves diamoric. Technically, any NB person who seeks partnerships of any kind with any gender could call themselves diamoric, but it’s most useful and meaningful for NBs who wish to proclaim their prioritization of other NBs.

An NB person who is most interested in, happiest, and most comfortable with other NB people may find it a useful self-identifier; they are diamoric. Even if they would be content dating men or women, but they don’t want to define themselves by that, and would rather define themselves by their love for NB people and for being NB - they are diamoric.

ok cool. that sounds like it would be an equivalent to sapphic and achillean, and thus not to be used by binary men and women. makes sense.

but literally above that part, says:

A diamoric relationship or attraction is one that involves at least one non-binary person.

A genderfluid person’s attraction to a woman is diamoric.

now here i thought diamoric was just defined as nblnb. if that were the case, that would be like calling a woman's attraction to a binary man sapphic?

An enby’s hook-up with an androgyne is diamoric.

A man’s queerplatonic partnership with a demiboy is diamoric (and could also be achillean if they chose to use both).

A genderfluid woman’s romance with a genderfluid man is diamoric (and could also be gay, sapphic, or achillean depending on how their genders line up in time.)

A bigender person’s marriage to an agender person is diamoric.

A triad between a woman, a demigirl, and an agender person is diamoric.

A man’s attraction to an enby is diamoric.

this goes against what wikis say (that diamoric is only for attraction experienced by non-binary people and not for attraction from binary people towards non-binary people), but it also literally goes against the other part i quoted, saying that only non-binary people can use the term diamoric and how it's meant for nblnb, not mlnb (or wlnb). this does sound like astroidian (mlnb) and maedic (wlnb) would absolutely count as diamoric orientations.

A lesbian dating an agender person is a lesbian in a diamoric relationship.

but in a previous post, it was defined like this:

Love or attraction of any kind for, of, shared between or involving non binary people.

here it is again, explicitly stating that it's not just attraction from non-binary people, but also for non-binary people. with this definition, wlnb and mlnb count as diamoric.

This includes platonic, romantic, and/or sexual love and attraction.

It includes any platonic, romantic or sexual feelings or relationships an NB person has, whether with other NB people or with binary people.

This word is an equivalent to sapphic and achillean but further expanded to encompass any relationship or attraction which is neither same-gender nor “opposite-gender” due to an NB person’s involvement.

and this again sounds like mlnb and wlnb are diamoric in their attraction to non-binary people. that attraction doesn't easily fit in same vs. opposite gender attraction, and non-binary people would be involved as the recipients of that attraction.

so i'm confused. these posts seem to kind of contradict each other. one of the posts even contradicts itself by listing mlnb as diamoric but then saying that mlnb can't call themselves diamoric.

it seems like the person who coined diamoric wanted it to be two things at once, an umbrella term for every attraction and relationship that doesn't fit the same vs opposite gender dichotomy as well as a specific nblnb term equivalent to sapphic and achillean.

and with that it's even weirder that on wiki articles trixic and toric are listed as diamoric orientations when diamoric is either defined as nblnb specifically or as any attraction/relationship not within the same vs opposite gender dichotomy (meaning the article should also include maedic and astroidian along with trixic and toric as examples for diamoric orientations).

whichever way you see it, the wiki definitely got it wrong one way or another, but the coining post(s) themselves are also not really helping my confusion.

in my book, diamoric does describe any attraction/relationship outside the same vs opposite gender dichotomy, in my book maedic and astroidian are diamoric orientations, in my book, wlnb and mlnb are diamoric. in my book, my partner (binary guy) is diamoric for being attracted to me as it's not same or opposite gender attraction. in my book, diamoric isn't limited to nblnb, especially because there are actually now other terms that are way more commonly used for nblnb specifically, like enbian, which was coined two months after diamoric. it makes exactly zero sense to me to say that diamoric includes every situation where a same vs opposite gender dichotomy doesn't apply but then say that...certain people where a same vs opposite gender dichotomy doesn't apply can't use it. thankfully there's enbian as a term so the half-arsed nonsensical gatekeeping of people who fit the definition of diamoric and are literally in the example list becomes kinda useless.

[uptownhags]

None of y’all told me that Matt Le Nevez spent last year just looking fine as hell on a yacht?!???

[thehealingsystem]

>> Enbiboy & Enbigirl Flags!! <<

Enbiboy - An enbian boy/man. For those who consider themselves nonbinary who are attracted to nonbinary people, but are also boys/men

Enbigirl - An enbian girl/woman. For those who consider themselves nonbinary who are attracted to nonbinary people, but are also girls/women

Coined by me!

[alifelivedtwiceover]

Currently thinking about when Mijeong talks about (and I'm paraphrasing here) how in her past relationship, she kept rooting for him to succeed so that it would seem like she was dating a guy who had his life together, and when his business venture started to fold, she kept hoping it would take off again.

She wasn't rooting for him. She was rooting for a version of him that would reflect on her in a positive way.

When she says she is resolved, in the future, to root for the person she likes, regardless of whether he is struggling or succeeding; she will love him regardless of his failure or his success, I found myself unable to stop thinking of it.

How we find ourselves hoping, even subconsciously, that our loved ones reflect on us positively. Goodness by association. Coolness by association. Success by association.

Acceptance from society as a result of loving a person who has it "together". The burden it places on both individuals. How we must love, by a certain age, but we must love a person who has it figured out. All these constraints. How can love and genuine connection thrive under so many rules.

The best friendships and relationships seem to spring from a genuine interest in another person. A desire to spend time together. A commitment of time and energy to the things that make the other person "them". Their oddities, their successes. Their inadequacies. The things that prop them up and the things that drown them. The way Mijeong talks about frogs dying while she is eating. The way Mr. Gu cannot seem to stop caring about the stray dogs. Mijeong's strangeness. Mr.Gu's softness.

In a sense, it feels like the whole of this show, Mijeong and Mr. Gu are saying to each other,

"I will root for you. Whether you are succeeding or struggling. I will root for you through winter and into spring and into summer and I will not stop even when it is autumn. I will root for you. I will worship you. And, as I root for you, it will be like I am rooting for myself. Through you, I will learn to root for myself. I will learn, finally, to worship myself. I will liberate myself, through you."

[hornyclownthing]

How is it to have a culture and language built for others to express their desire for you?

To see words from others lusting for someone even a little bit like you? To know what someone would say to court you, to listen to those words in your head, give them different voices and inflections just to imagine it.

I do not know.

It's ridiculous to ask language to make room for nonbinary people, especially to ask language to make room for something so close,so personal, so different for everyone, but maybe?

My lover and I have words for me. Secret ones we found, made, taught. It's awfully intimate, and feel loved and desired

but only by her.

I am not desired by others, I am not handsome or beautiful, I am not strong or powerful. I am not gorgeous.

Perhaps that's why I wish I could at least be horrifying.