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chiscribbs · 4 months

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Okay so the httyd thing. I've been so excited to share this idea w/ you you have no idea.

So what I've been thinking, is Hiccup seemed to recover wayyyyyyyyy too fast for someone who's been neglected and ostracized from his entire community most of if not all his life. Like when Stoick comes home from looking for the nest in the first movie, and the villagers are saying things like "congratulations" or "out with the old in with the new" and "good riddance if you ask me" and they're "throwing a party to celebrate" Stoick assumes Hiccup is dead and that Berk is celebrating. Berk hated him that much. So what I'm thinking is, Hiccup has made inventions and stuff, he's been trying to do something that will prove he's one of them, a real Viking, trying to make them like him, and none of it worked. The only thing that made them realize he was worth anything was when he started being himself, but what if Hiccup doesn't see it quite that way. What if he thinks that if they can change their minds that quick to like him, then they might change their minds again if he doesn't stay useful. What if no one apologized to him for how they treated him? Because I don't think anyone did. What if his self esteem is still 6 feet lower than the ground and he's walking around waiting for the other shoe to drop. In Gift of the Night Fury we see he feels guilty for Toothless needing him to fly, and so he makes him a new tail that doesn't need a rider. Toothless doesn't want it, but that's not the point. What if Hiccup gives people the option to leave him, because he still thinks its possible that they will. It probably wouldn't be super obvious if he did, but what if he makes them all (Astrid, Tuff and Ruffnut, Fishlegs, Snotlout, maybe even Gobber and Stoick) inventions and things that make it so they don't have to rely on him so much? Leaning a little into Race to the Edge, what if he gives Fishlegs some books he's always borrowing, just as an example. What if they all think he's just being nice, and he's actually trying to make sure they don't need to have him around? This is probably a bit of a stretch, but it's all to say that Hiccup deserved better, and I want the gang to see that and help this boy dig his very very low self esteem out of the hole they buried it in. (Also I like to think that hiccup did this with Gobber when he was younger, because Gobber being the only one who didn't hate him is my emotional support headcannon)

TLDR: What if the gang realized that Hiccup has no self worth and thinks that if everyone could suddenly like him then they could still suddenly hate him?

This might be out of character, but I think all of Berk hating his guts and calling him a screw-up probably did some nasty damage to Hiccup's self esteem, and I want to see that realized and dealt with, because being hated and then suddenly loved might have been a dream come true, but it also probably made him scared it was a dream, and that he will eventually have to wake up.

(Finally getting around to responding to this - sorry it took awhile, I've had my mind on other things and I really didn't want to give a half-brained response when you put so much work into this.)

Ahhhhh, "social outcast genius equating his self-worth to his usefulness in the eyes of others" trope, my beloved.

I will say, my perception of his relationship with the people of Berk was always a bit more on the "he's a nuisance, but he's still family" side of things than out-right hatred. Like the equivalent of a small-town's troubled youth, they don't like him, but he grew up there and he's the village leader's son, so they still have some sense of ownership of him prior to his making them change their minds. If that makes any sense? ...they're Vikings, though, so it's hard to tell the difference sometimes, lol. But, in fairness - it's been awhile since I've watched the first movie, so I'll concede to the freshest memory here. Anyway, that's beside the point-

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this! Hiccup was definitely owed a town apology, at the very least. I understand why they didn't go into that in the movie - limited time, plus the the Stoic-Hiccup relationship was really the core of the conflict, so they opted to focus on that instead - but I agree it would have been nice to see some closure regarding the people of Berk's attitude and treatment towards him. Or some recognition for how it might have affected him after the first movie's conclusion. Because you're absolutely right, that kind of emotional whiplash can be damaging - especially on a teenager who already has considerably low self-esteem.

This does feel pretty in-character for Hiccup, in my opinion, considering the doubts he has in himself as a leader. He neither wanted nor felt right for that job, even when everybody else was sure of his qualifications. So it'd be easy to see him projecting his own doubts in himself on others and assuming they might see things the same way as him. That's the kind of thing that eventually fades as it's repeatedly proven untrue, but it takes time for that reassurance to grow, and the doubts would definitely be pretty prominent at the start. And him wanting to do what's best for everyone else, having the sense of love and responsibility for his community that he has, it makes sense he wouldn't try to hold on too tightly and would instead provide ample opportunity for people to leave if/when they wanted to. (Just like he did with Toothless.)

I think if anybody was gonna pull him out of that, or help him pull himself out of that, it would be Astrid. She'd immediately know something's up - she's always the one to ground him when he's too inside his own head to see things clearly. And unlike his confidence in himself, her confidence in him has never once wavered, she knows he's more capable than he thinks. Astrid also has a much healthier relationship with the rest of Berk, so if anybody can provide some reassurance on the public opinion front, it would be her.

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All that to say - I like this idea! Very well thought-out and well-considered, imo. I'm not quite as well-versed on the HTTYD world as some people - while I adore the movies, I never quite reached fixation levels of interest in the franchise, for whatever reason - so I can't add too much to this. But I like it and I appreciate you sharing your concept with me! Thanks! :>

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tswwwit · 1 year

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Do the Other Pines ever figure out that Dipper is the mysterious husband Bill was oh so eager to get back to? If they did, how would they react?

They'll only figure it out if they get more information!

Upon learning said information, they will each take 2d10 psychic damage.

#answers #Bill's not one for delayed satisfaction #But planting that particular timebomb was hilarious to him #It would have been less impactful if he'd exposed the truth firsthand and who wants to do *that* anyway #Directness?? Sincerety??? Super blegh even with the potential looks of horror on their faces #They would have asked for *explanations* too!! How shit is that #WAY funnier if they have it blow up in their face if they go snooping or asking too many questions about Bill #The less context they have the more horrifying it'd be #Since they're only used to Their Version #Our Dipper is the only one would would clarify that topic; Bill'd be perfectly happy letting them think he's 'tormenting' Dipper every week #(technically correct; it's a euphemism)#The horror is lessened somewhat if they got in a conversation with Dipper #Which he would be. Very awkward about.#But eventually admit the situation. Most of the bits anyway.

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singsweetmelodies · 2 months

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Hi there! Im still kind of new to f1 so please, can you share all the piarles deep lore with me? Like your favorite moments from them, the story of them growing up, etc. I have a burning need 🙏 ❤️

hiiii dearest anon! i am so sorry for the delay in replying - i saw this ask and immediately got SO freaking excited, because, well, piarles is my absolute OTP in this fandom, so of course i'd love to share all the details about them!!

i started working on a piarles lore post almost immediately, and that's when i realised... um, there is actually rather a lot of piarles lore. like, a lot. enough that i've been working on this post for over a week in-between work and irl stuff, and it's still not done??

so yeah.... 🙈 i just wanted to reply to you today and say that i have seen this ask and i am working on a piarles lore post for you ❤️😘 it's just taking quite a bit longer than i thought because of how much piarles lore there is. but rest assured, the post is definitely happening!! thank you SO much for asking, and for giving me the chance to embark on the most fun research project ever <3333

#asks & answers #anon #lovely piarles anons ❤️#ANON YOU MADE ME SMILE *SO* INCREDIBLY MUCH WITH THIS ONE OMG #best ask EVER #i'm really sorry for taking this long to get back to you though skjghsdjkghdjkg #it's not that i'm ignoring you - quite the opposite really!!#it's just that i'm quite insane about piarles; and ALSO an academic; which means that i have to source & reference everything PROPERLY xD #and also there really is just SO MUCH piarles lore #each time i think i'm close to done; i remember something else that happened and i'm like oH MY GOD YEAH I HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT!!#so yeah....#the piarles lore post is DEFINITELY happening #but it's *definitely* going to be absolutely insane and VERY long #so: sorry for the delay; but i promise it'll be WELL worth your while!!

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noxxha · 1 year

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How do you envision the Uchiha clan culture to be? Collectivistic? More individualistic than the Senju's? Harmonic? Militaristic? Merciful? Ruthless? Generous? Selfish? I'm so curious!!!

Hello anon! Thank you so much for your question - and what an interesting question indeed! I have had thoughts of pinning down how I perceive the Uchiha clan - so your question feels like the “answer” that yes, its time to finally do so. x3

But I wish not to keep you in suspense for too long, and I hope this answer will satisfy your curiosity:

*Note* the following headcanon(s) is not an accurate portrayal of Japanese culture. It is inspired from some historical and cultural aspects of it, but I have taken liberties in my portrayal of a culture to a fictional clan.

And yes I did not respect canon 100%…

This is also the type of headcanon that might undergo changes in time, but this is how I would answer your question atm, anon.

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I see the Uchiha clan as more individualistic than collectivistic. They value harmony and peace, but not to the same collectivistic degree as the Senju. Their mentality was first and foremost focused on their loved ones - then the clan as a whole. But even then there existed those that saw the collective before the individual.

From the eyes of outsiders the Uchiha appear quite selfish and ruthless, but each and every Uchiha has a strong sense of kinship with one another despite their loved ones being their priority. Trust flows freely between one Uchiha member to the next.

Everyone also has the back of one another in times of need, but it is no secret that they do value a sense of independence before a sort of “hive mind”.

In a sense “survival of the fittest” can be used to describe the clan - but it is a very simplified way of viewing the clan.

The Uchiha clan of old - long before Konoha was even founded, and the Warring States Era had even begun - was actually a very peaceful clan that shunned conflict and preferred a peaceful living; until the daimyō began to grow both restless and dissatisfied with the land and power they already had. Conflicts broke out and spread quickly. Before they were called “shinobi” all the different clans that would emerge during the Warring States Era were called samurai. It was only around four centuries before the Warring States Era happened, that the different clans began calling themselves “shinobi” and began the form of “hire for coins” that would define the entire Warring States period.

During the Warring States Era the entire world was in upheaval because of the earlier power structure completely breaking down.

The Uchiha clan quickly made a name for itself, and it took not long until the daimyō had formed a cycle of hatred between the Uchiha clan and the Senju clan

Leadership

The Uchiha clan is unified by one single leader, who then guides the entire clan to follow a shared conviction. The Uchiha clan chooses their leader on the basis of strength (physical and emotional) and there is a high degree of trust in their leader’s decision(s).   Leadership is generally given to males, but there have been three cases of women leading the clan as its leader.   The process of leadership itself is a dance of ruthlessness (in the eyes of outsiders) and democracy (unity).  While anyone in the clan has the potential to become its leader, throughout the history of the clan many of its leaders has had a military background – whether high-ranking or not. Aristocratic and peasants is a distinction that doesn’t exist in the clan, unlike in the Hagoromo clan (which is said to be direct descendants of the Sage Hagoromo himself). Uchiha Tajima was a renowned warrior, but a “mere” lieutenant, by the time his successor – with no living child of his own, and dying on the field of battle – asked him to lead the clan.   A leader undergoes a strict “appointment ritual” before they are officially made leader. This ritual includes a process of voting (to see if they are in favour of the rest of the clan), to battle the other potential candidate(s) (which is often the son or someone close to the second-in-command) into submission, battle strategy/war meeting and philosophical questions to discern values and whether they align with the wishes of the clan.

The leader appoints a second-in-command, and it is not unusual – as a sign of respect – to give that specific role to the very person they fought for leadership. The prior second-in-command steps down if that is the case.  Co-leadership (or “symbiotic leadership” as it also is called) was very common, and yet it is not the same as being appointed the role of second-in-command, not entirely. If the leader of the clan appoints someone as co-leader, they have the role of acting as second-in-command, as well as a “pseudo-leader”. This type of leadership was common during the peaks of the war, as it kept leadership intact should one of the leaders fall in battle. It was most common to appoint a fellow male as co-leader (often a relative to which there was a strong bond), but Uchiha Tajima was one of few that made his wife his co-leader.  The most famous example of co-leadership throughout the entire history of the Uchiha clan, was the co-leadership between Uchiha Madara and Uchiha Izuna. It was so effective at keeping the clan unified, yet it also polarized the clan – something that was painfully seen the moment Izuna succumbed to his wound – that the entire clan was split, and many even defected to the Senju of all clans. Even years later the death of Uchiha Izuna would forever haunt the clan, and it was only during the founding of Konoha that co-leadership was abolished once and for all.   While leadership generally falls onto the son of the current leader, that is not entirely a given. There have been exceptions in the past (as was the case for Tajima) as well as not all leaders having had a son. Leadership comes down to their readiness to rule and care for the clan in the end, but the oldest son of the leader (Madara in Tajima’s case) and the son of the second-in-command, tend to be those that are trained into the role of leader.  While the “me versus you” system puts tremendous pressure onto each of the children, they know that it must exist as a precaution should one of them be deemed unfit to care for the clan. 

The wife of the leader (matriarch) has a very high position socially. She cares for the clan the same way the leader does - but on a different front. Tajima cared for anything related to the battlefield, and used the funds for the sake of battle, while Kiyo - his wife - cared for the clan’s internal order. She used the remaining funds for medication, food (that they could not get themselves) and other necessities to keep the clan afloat.

Climate Despite the leadership being a ruthless affair, the climate in general is one of harmony and a peaceful co-existence – if a highly competitive one as well. As much as the clan cares for one another outside of battle, during the midst of combat everyone is expected to fend for themselves.  Weakness is frowned upon in other words. As well as being “sloppy” and “careless” with training.   Training itself is harsh. It is here that the more individualistic mindset of the clan reveals itself at its strongest; kill or be killed is drilled into every child.  Children have to be strong so to fend for themselves, if they don’t, they will only bring everyone else down with them. Families do try to keep an eye on inexperienced members, but there is only so much focus they can expand without dying themselves.  Weakness also guarantees death.

Parents teach their children early the life of shinobi (it is to them the morally right choice, not necessarily the choice of the highest love) and children as young as three years old begin their shinobi training (said training becomes much more ‘real’ around the ages of 4 – 7). Generally children follow their fathers into battle around 5 – 8 years of age depending on the circumstances.

Children are barely allowed to be children at all. Everything they know is the lifestyle of a shinobi, even something innocent like playing “tag” is training. Even skipping rocks across a river is treated as training.

Despite the above the clan is in general a generous one, sharing with the less fortunate ones and helping one another, but everyone does first and foremost care for themselves and living by the premise of “I can only help others if I myself am taken care of”.

This is easily seen as being a “survival of the fittest” scenario - and on some level that is correct - in the eyes of outsiders, but the clan knows from experience that they cannot help their kin if they, themselves, are dead. It would also be a waste if their help was met with death, especially if resources are scare.

That is the most genuinely cruel the Uchiha clan will be to one another.

Social hierarchy (family + clan)

The social hierarchy in a family is well defined and each member addresses their fellow family members with respect (as well as affection through their tone, or the occasional use of nicknames that have a very deep, profound meaning). “Anata” is common to hear from married couples (the names of husband and wife only pass their lips when there is obvious disagreement with a choice).

Izuna, for example always called Madara “nii-san” (and was called such in return by their three younger brothers), and addressed Tajima as “tō-sama” and his mother “kā-sama”. His deepest sign of love for his family was calling Madara by his childhood nickname, “Mada-nii”, his father “tō-san”and mother “kā-san”. But no matter if more formal or not, there was always a particularly strong bond between them.

The oldest children help care for their younger siblings, and they are also taught various skills from their mothers (cooking, sewing, treatment of illnesses) to be there for the family should the parents be away at the time (war meetings as in Tajima’s case, or traveling for supplies or other reasons) - but the entire clan is there to help their fellow Uchiha.

Tajima has never laid a hand against his sons, and never would dare to do so. He shows his disapproval through voice and eye-contact (never with the Sharingan active though). And that is in general how parents discipline their children. Physical violence to discipline children is met with contempt, which is partly a reason the Uchiha loathe the Senju and their willingness to resort to physical violence against a child.

When amongst their kin the Uchiha clan are respectful and mindful of the social hierarchy in place. Younger children are chided should they make mistakes, but its only when they are a tad older - and step out of line - that the tone of guidance becomes a sharp glance in disapproval.

While families primarily focus on their loved ones, the Uchiha clan of old was not below caring for other children, or the elderly and sick, as a group. Compassion and kindness is very important for the clan, but their strongest drive to care for one another was out of love for one another.

Affection and gestures

In private families are very affectionate towards one another (some more than others, of course) but physical touch is not frowned upon. Children generally sleep in the same room as their parents (more common during winter than summer) both for their comfort and their safety.

While perhaps more a social gesture, to take a bath together is still a very intimate experience as well. It is a sign of affection to wash the hair of a fellow Uchiha (a gesture reserved mostly for family - but between potential lovers it is a first sign of trust and that there is fondness there that goes deeper).

Hugs are more common among children than adults, through. But its not unheard of for adults to embrace each other - it is simply very intimate to do so.

The most intimate gesture of affection between a couple is to look into each other’s eyes, and watch their emotions reveal themselves.

Kissing someone is generally a very sacred gesture, and is done in private with their life partner. It is also a very intimate gesture as Uchiha - who rely heavily on eye-contact for communication - close their eyes while sharing a kiss. To brush a kiss against the eyelids of their partner is considered the most intimate of kisses - as with it follows the unspoken promise to look for one another in the next life.

The gesture above would be interpreted as romantic in the following generations, but during the Warring States Era this particular kiss/oath is platonic in nature. It was actually more common for siblings, rather than lovers, to exchange it. The bond between lovers had to be exceedingly deep to make such a promise as to reincarnate and look for one another again.

Gesture-wise the above has the same meaning as saying “Ai Shiteru” to their lover. Uchiha generally prefer gestures of affection over words, but if a couple speak “Ai Shiteru” to one another their love for one another is profound, absolute and genuine.

Children

Children are generally born in the winter months (December - February/early March) as it was the winter time that (while harsh in its own right) allowed the clans a brief respite from the wars that raged at the time (most of the time). This weakened state was as much a disadvantage as it was an advantage for the few clans ruthless enough to strike outside of a contract.

Most families had many children. To have 5 to 7 seven children was not uncommon. Not many reached adulthood, though. Most barely made it into their teens when the wars were at their peak.

Children, sons rather, were acknowledged as adults by the time they mastered the “Katon: Goukakyuu no Jutsu” (daughters were taught the jutsu by the time Konohagakure was founded and equality could be established)

It was not unusual to know the jutsu by the age of nine to thirteen. Cases than the usual development frame are not unheard of, such as Madara - gifted beyond compare - who learnt the jutsu by the time he was seven. Izuna was close to seven himself (the age gap between them was 14 months) when he followed in his brother’s footsteps.

But those cases were exceedingly rare as most simply could not handle the destructive nature of the fire element until they were a touch older than the above mentioned prodigies.

Wedlock and parenthood

Wedlock was done out of love and compatibly. It was also not as common as it was in other clans at the time - the only exception to the rule was the leader of the clan: they were required to enter wedlock out of legal reasons. It was both for the sake of their wife - securing her status to the rest of the clan - as well as having a potential “crisis mediator”. While it was very rare that the clan’s structure would collapse, there was once a particular siege that nearly eradicated the Uchiha clan. During that particular battle they were wounded severely in every way imaginable. Only the wife of their leader remained from the Uchiha in high-ranking positions - and that particular woman single-handedly brought order and structure back to the Uchiha clan, that was on the verge of internal collapse from having lost their entire leadership in the bloodiest war in that particular period. It was thereafter that marriage was required of their leader, and the matriarch gained the single most important role in a time of absolute chaos, a role that throughout history became more or less obsolete - but it would remain up until the founding of Konoha just in case. When the matriarch had made her choice for a fitting candidate she would often step down from her position and work as an advisor for the next wife of the leader.

Like wolves, couples (whether married or not) lived together their entire lives (or until death parted them). Most found someone new, but those in the position of leadership generally refused to love anyone else. Wearing black was the sign of their grief, and that was something they wore until their death.

The Uchiha clan made a very important distinction between love/emotional partnerships and sexual partnerships. While most loved (and were emotionally faithful) to only their lover, it was not uncommon for men (and women) to seek out sexual pleasure with someone else. The act of love-making, however - the creation of a child - was a sacred experience that was shared only between lovers.

While the Uchiha strongly preferred unions in the clan, it was not unheard of for Uchiha men and women to form unions with one of their allied clans at the time (Like the Hagoromo clan). While still out of love, most of these unions were the very few cases of political marriages existing in the Uchiha clan.

Marriages were kept purely in the Uchiha clan after the Hagoromo clan were eradicated.

It was not unusual to become parents young (15 - 25). To become parents around 15 was common when wars were many, but not as common in more peaceful times. Wedlock was usually entered around the same time or even later than that. As only the leader was required to marry, most others saw no true need for such (it was more a symbolic gesture in those cases).

Women and their role

Women were treated with respect and even reverence - despite not fighting in the wars with their loved ones. As much as the notion appears sexist, the reason was because women secured their survival at the time (through children, yes). Exceptions existed, such as women who were infertile, but pretty much all women were taught the art of hunting and gathering rather than combat for the battlefield. During the winter months, especially, women secured the survival of the clan through hunting of fish (and some meat), gathering of herbs and resource management.

Women were exceptional at treating the most various of illnesses - from fever to hyperthermia, to more complex cases of amputation to removal of eyes and even cases of organ transplantations - and from a young age girls were taught to help out during childbirth.

Young daughters were seen as women the day they “bled”.

While most women were not taught the art of combat in the same capacity as men, they were taught to defend themselves should other clans perceive themselves as particularly clever for going after them.

Madara and Izuna were two of the first Uchiha teaching their lovers combat the way they were taught since childhood (a training session that would have appeared abusive in the eyes of outsiders).

Their lovers would end up becoming the clan’s strongest women, as well as a symbol for many young girls who wanted a different life for themselves.

Women were known to nurse their own children and children of others if breastfeeding did not work for a new mother. Older women were especially considerate and kind to young, inexperienced mothers and helped out their fellow woman the very same way men supported each other on the battlefront.

Women were also known to adopt orphaned Uchiha children if they had the capacity to care for them. As was the case for Ryoko - a healer in the clan - who adopted a fair share of orphaned children (girls) to teach them the art of healing (not medical ninjutsu as we know it from the Naruto canon), they were much more primitive with treatment of illnesses, as records of more elaborate healing had vanished through time (yes, that includes the Senju as well, who were quite advanced for their time)

Medical ninjutsu - both in theory and practice - began in this era through.

As absurd as it sounds, barely anyone saw the very fact that chakra - which caused such destruction - could be used for its opposite as well. That is how destructive the Warring States Era was to the generations living through it. They could only see destruction rather than healing.

Religion

Religion and particular shinto practices were quite important to the Uchiha clan. Families would pray at particular shrines for good health and the safety of their loved ones.

Reincarnation was a deep seated belief in most Uchiha, as most of their gestures and social practices actually originated from the belief that they were allowed a second chance at life (which did not mean that they were reckless with the life already given, not the Uchiha of Tajima’s era at least).

Their were many deities that the Uchiha believed in, but the most respected deities were Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi, Izanagi and Izanami and Susano’o.

Children were especially fond of hearing the various stories about the above mentioned deities.

Another mythical creature that children enjoyed hearing about was the Tengu and Minamoto no Yoshitsune.

Sharingan

The Sharingan was something the Uchiha clan was proudest of. In battle it was the greatest asset of the clan, but outside of battle the Sharingan was not seen activated, and if so, it was under very specific circumstances.

Most Uchiha actually sparred without the Sharingan to better hone their abilities. Over reliance on the Sharingan was frowned upon, as - while it was their greatest strength on the battlefield - it did not make them invincible. Arrogance was often met with warnings to be careful, at least on the battlefield.

The Sharingan was NEVER manifested while disciplining a child. To do so would be akin to physically hit the child, which is the type of abuse the clan abhors in the Senju clan.

To reveal the Sharingan to a fellow member of the clan was a sign of open contempt for said member. This hostility was often fought out and ended not seldom in death.

If a man revealed their Sharingan when looking into the eyes of their lover, it was the deepest sign of love for his partner. If a women did the same (the handful that actually gained the Sharingan during this time) they exchanged a vow that was even stronger than the vow of marriage.

If the Sharingan was manifested during love-making it was a sign of reverence and respect.

Uchiha clan (Konoha)

The Uchiha clan living in Konoha was not much different from the Uchiha clan of old. The climate did change a touch more than during the Warring States Era, such as becoming even more individualistic than during Madara’s era. The clan remained important, though, and especially when the clan was pushed to the outskirts of Konoha. It was during that time that they returned to the values of their ancestors.

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And that concludes my answer.

Thank you, anon for this question, it was a lot of fun answering this. :)

All the best and take care o/

#anon ask #uchiha clan #uchiha madara #izuna uchiha #uchiha tajima #uchiha oc #apologies for the delay #perfectionism is the bane of my existence…#it took a while to order my thoughts and define the clan #hope this answer is satisfying though :)#headcanons #long #very long post #the headcanon that probably will change the most #there are so many details to consider

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sparring-spirals · 2 years

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Thoughts on Shithead the Bird? I am fascinated by FCG's insistence that it always follows them, unrelentingly, despite the fact that we have yet to see that bird in the month of in-game time we have watched. Where bird go?

Well, my primary thoughts so far are that it has good potential to be like, at least 10% true. Both in a "haha whaaaat, thats hilarious" kind of way and in a "i am once again being sucker punched by Sam Riegel character plot twists" kind of way.

Just for fun, some potential explanations, with varying levels of truth:

- Birds do have an uncanny tendency to poop on F.C.G, but it first happened with a mangy seagull.

- It's 100% true and the seagull has simply been preoccupied since the start of the campaign, but its fuckin COMIN.

- Shithead and also All Other Birds are actively trying to bully F.C.G for reasons yet unknown.

- F.C.G was pooped on once by a seagull. It was a terrible experience.

- F.C.G was pooped.on once by a seagull, which was unpleasant, and also had a french fry stuck in his joint or something and the seagull attacked him, which was a TERRIBLE experience, what do you mean seagulls are not full of menace and evil plans :(

- Its true but Shithead is Not A Seagull. *horror sting*

- (Compatible with any of these other options) Shithead was somehow involved with the murder of F.C.G's party/the aftermath, explaining the vendetta/F.C.G's uniquely negative opinion of birds/this seagull

(Jokes aside, its very interesting that F.C.G, who in the start of canon, was unphased by having someone throw a bucket of piss onto him, despises this seagull so deeply, and for this specific reason. It's not just a by product of learned teachings from Dancer, inherent lack of good in seagulls or w/e- this is about a vendetta.

Moreover, believing something has a vendetta against you requires a certain level of self importance- it is about you, something hating you enough to hunt you down, keep after you everywhere you go. Very, very interesting contrast with this character who consistently takes a "oh well, not me, im not soul touched, or important, like the rest of you, im just here to help" stance.

anyway so like, actually, F.C.G, what the fuck happened to convince you of this, tell me more, little robit.)

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hi this may be long so sorry in advance but

i always loved hp and when i got into the marauders i started caring about sirius, remus, and james more (peter hater till i die unfortunately i can’t get behind him) and like every marauders stan i despised despised severus, i thought that since he was in a known death eaters friend group and called muggle borns mudblood he was unredeemable. but then i saw more and more pro snape content and it made me feel bad for him, james bullied him (which i’m still not even sure if it was classified as bullying because james didnt have any power over him and it wasn’t even 1 vs 4 it was 1 vs 2 so i’d like to know your opinion on that as well) and he had an abusive parent, but then i saw snily shippers (i am a major jily shipper fyi) saying how james basically manipulated lily into marrying him by not telling her he still bullied snape, how the prank was the best thing to happen to james because their “fights” wouldn’t be seen as bullying but as a teen rivalry, how james was the rich boy who got everything he wanted and he got the poor girl as well, how it was him constantly asking lily out and her always saying no etcc, so ik this may sound stupid but i love ur takes like ur always sooooo fucking real so if u want to share your opinions on these like if u think any of these things are wrong 🙈 id be glad bc i dont know how to feel about severus and idk how to feel about jily either which is just making my small world inside of my head crumble bc i used to love them so much

Of course and thank you! First of all as I've been saying I don't think it's necessary or even really a good idea for us to base our preferences or interests in fiction with our moral beliefs. so we can accept that snape or james did bad things and still like them. Fiction gives us that freedom to delve into aspects of humanity that in real life we might try to avoid. So I don't think you should feel bad for liking james or severus or jily or whatever. Ok, that being said let's get into it:

First it's normal to feel sympathy for Severus, he's a sympathetic character in many respects! That's what makes a good anti-hero (or even villain. we're even supposed to feel sympathy for voldemort and barty crouch jr at certain points)

what james and the marauders did was definitely bullying. there's no way around that. you say james didn't have any power over him but he did; social power. You touched on economic class, which is a big factor, but James was a popular student and Sev was deeply unpopular. whether it was 1v4 or 1v2 or 1v1 doesn't really matter in terms of whether it was bullying, though tbh it was really 1vthe whole school because the spectators also participated in Sev's humiliation.

However, in my mind there's almost no way that Snape wasn't instigating just as much, possibly more, in seventh year. Like you think he was just going to sit around and accept that his worst enemy was dating Lily? lol. I tend to believe Sirius when he says that Sev "never lost an opportunity to curse James" like good for him get his ass. But I think it was definitely a different dynamic in 7th year than in 5th. there's this tendency to portray Sev as being a meek little helpless victim his whole life but personally I feel that's a disservice to his character-- this is the guy who invented sectumsempra 'for enemies' like three guesses who 'enemies' was.

re: jily, I really doubt that James manipulated Lily into anything, I think that's such an overdramatic reading lol. We don't know much about the way they got together-- although many fic writers have taken it upon themselves to fill in the gaps-- but everything points to them having been happy and in love, that clearly was the intention by the author. If James didn't tell her about duelling Snape that isn't great, but there are a lot of things that can be imperfect in a relationship without jumping to manipulation and abuse which require a specific pattern of behaviour that we have no evidence for. We also only have the external perspective of Sirius and Remus, which is likely incomplete.

(also James 'always asking Lily out' is fanon, we see him ask her out ONCE albeit spectacularly badly. it seems more likely to me that lily 'you make me SICK' evans simply saw james grow into someone she rly liked rather than gave in and gave in so fully that she married him bcause he was pressuring her. idk she didn't read like a pushover to me.)

So no need for world crumblage! It doesn't sound stupid at all, but I think it's important to keep in mind that we can enjoy fictional characters/relationships that aren't perfect, in fact those are the ones that I find more enjoyable. It's totally possible to be a fan of snape and james and jily and snily all at the same time, fandom tends to create conflicts or 'shipping wars' or whatever lol but idk if that's necessary. I don't see it as a moral debate or an either/or, I just find all the characters and the dynamics between them interesting.

For instance, you mentioned the class differences between Lily and James, and I always thought that was probably a point of contention in the relationship; but to me it's one that makes it more compelling to explore. Relationships irl are rarely perfect and evenly-matched from the start, they take work. Similarly people are never perfect- they learn and change and grow. James did, Snape definitely did. otherwise they would be boring and unrealistic as characters.

#ANYWAY the point is that its fine. haha. like what u like u dont need to justify it. to urself or to anyone #very long answer haha but it was a long ask to be fair!#i have a few more asks that i'm going through rn. so if you've sent something sorry for the delay!#jily #meta #replies

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